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[It's clear that our liberal readers have a wildly different conception of 'witch hunt' than the rest of us.  The WH effort to discover the self-declared anonymous leaker and resister who wrote the NYT op-ed is an existential and legitimate target of an internal investigation to ferret out someone who promises to make shambles of presidential executive privilege.  There is nothing here to compare with what Mueller is doing in his investigation of Trump which is based on allegations and no evidence of 'Russian collusion' after an 18+ month probe into the affairs of Team Trump.  There was no culpable evidence to launch the investigation, and its interminable continuation is also based on nothing but the hope of perhaps finding something in future.  Now that is a witch hunt.  gjr]

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  1. Paul Emery Avatar

    George
    So far Mueller has now indicted or secured guilty pleas from 32 people and three Russian companies.

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  2. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    Omarosa, Woodward, the NYT editorial, the Kavanaugh hearings, blah, blah, blah. Ain’t nothing that we have not heard on a weekly basis from the NYT, Wa Compost, or the Huff-N-Post for the past 18 months on a slow news day. Nothing new, everything still the same. And not person has come forward saying, “Pssst, Trump whispered to so and so that he colluded with the Russians.” That is the only story that has drawn crickets.
    The McCain funeral bash-a-ton…the Aretha Franklin funeral bash-a-thon, blah, blah, blah. What it this week? Oh yeah, the coordinated effort of previews of Woodward’s book, followed the next day the NYT editorial, and one or two events I have already forgotten. Oh yeah, millions of women are going to die. All this is coordinated just to wear the populace down to such degree that the R’s will throw up their hands and not show up at the polls. That is the goal.
    So, the 25th Amendment is back, Colin Kap is doing his Al Bundy imitation by selling shoes, and the NYT editorial will be forgotten by Wednesday. And we are all going to die.

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  3. Paul Emery Avatar

    So Obama is back on the campaign trail, bad news for the Republicans. Obama may not have been a very good President but he was a GREAT campaigner. He left office with an approval rating of +17.9 consensus polling compared to Trumps dismal -12.6. That’s a 29 point difference.
    https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/other/president_obama_job_approval-1044.html

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  4. Todd Juvinall Avatar
    Todd Juvinall

    O want to thank Obama for his speech today. He will help R’s turn out in record numbers and we will secure the government. He sure sounded like Paul Emery today. Thanks again Obama.

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  5. Paul Emery Avatar

    Todd
    You are such a dreamer. Obama is far more popular than Trump.

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  6. Don Bessee Avatar
    Don Bessee

    OH ya, 0 was such a great campaigner that we won the house, senate and white house when you were breathlessly saying the same thing. LOL
    Its the economy stupid!
    https://www.marketwatch.com/story/us-adds-201000-jobs-as-wage-growth-accelerates-to-nine-year-high-2018-09-07
    😉

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  7. Todd Juvinall Avatar
    Todd Juvinall

    Dreamer? No, Paul Emery, I am a realist. Trump won in spite of all you did for Hillary and Obama. You lost 1200 seats of government at all levels. Obama may be popular with the left but that does not mean diddly when it comes to voting time. Dream on.

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  8. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    Obama is a good campaigner. He is out stumping with his usual “if they bring a knife, you bring a gun” song and dance. Dire consequences, Democracy is at stake! And, of course, Russia, Russia, Russia!
    “What happened to the Republican Party?” he said. “Its central organizing principle in foreign policy was the fight against communism, and now they’re cozying up to the former head of the KBG.”
    Yep, we are all Putin cuddlers now, along with being bitter clingers and 2nd Amendment believers. And hideous defenders of the 1st Amendment. Did he mention how he wiretapped reporters and even their parents’ e-mails? Oh, did he mention how our Founding Fathers based their beliefs on Islam again? Looks like he forgot to mention how he misjudged the Arab Spring and got us involved in Syria, Libya, and that nothingburger about Grass Valley’s Native Son. It was all about some video nobody saw. And what about the horrendous humanitarian crisis he got us in Syria? And the felonies committed inside the Oval Office by illegally unmasking US citizens.
    Did like how Obama is whinning that he is not getting the credit for the economy. Hey, it was Obama that cancelled the Spring Recovery Tour way back then, not us bigots and bullies. He was the one who told us that jobs are never coming back, to get use to the new normal of under 3% growth every single year of the 8 years he was at the helm. Pity he isn’t getting enough credit for the economy. A cryin’ shame, I tell ya. My, my, we give Obama all the credit for his economy and now he wants more.
    Obama is a very effective campaigner. Now that his book has been completed and that 60 million payoff check has been cashed, Obama has plenty of time on his hands to go out do some campaigning and tossing that fear and divisiness around, not to mention putting the fear of God into folks about the dire consequences and the end to democracy……democracy as he knows it.

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  9. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    I knew this would not be a good idea.
    “Eleven beds will be designated for the most vulnerable guests, with the condition of sobriety being waived to provide lower barrier shelter options.”
    5:49 p.m. — A caller from the 1200 block of Sutton Way reported two male subjects were drunk and threatening staff members

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  10. Russ Avatar

    Could John Huntsman, Ambassador to Russia, be the writer of the Anon Op-Ed? He is a Mormon and would be concerned about morality, hangs with the Left, and was close to Obama. Huntsman ‘worshipped at John McCain’s feet’ Has use loadstar in his early writing. He used similar phrases in Salt Lake letter to the editor. Those same phrases end up in the Op-Ed. Your thoughts?

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  11. George Rebane Avatar

    PaulE 1048am – I guess you missed the part about those having anything to do with Trump colluding with Russians to throw the election.

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  12. "M" Avatar
    “M”

    Oh Dear,,,one of trumpski’s paid extras didn’t follow the script!!!
    https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/man-removed-trump-rally-pulls-faces-behind-presidents-back-123808809.html

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  13. Gregory Avatar
    Gregory

    George Snuffelupagus has been sentenced. The first Mueller conviction.
    14 days. 1-4 d-a-y-s in jail.
    Already served.

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  14. "M" Avatar
    “M”

    ,,,Trumpski says Obama speech put him to sleep…
    ,,,the speech was in the middle of the day…
    ,,,yep, sounds about right for trumpski…

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  15. Walt Avatar

    “O”‘s buttsore is showing.
    https://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2018/09/07/obama-complains-trump-getting-credit-for-economic-miracle/
    “Obama reminded students that they were probably too young to remember how the economy was on the brink of depression when he took office.
    “When you hear how great the economy is doing right now, let’s just remember when this recovery started,” he said.”
    Now he’s trying to take credit? Well that’s what lying Progressives do.
    No President Asswipe, “YOU didn’t build that”.
    This is all Trump’s handiwork.

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  16. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    @2:24 pm
    Yep, and to think the usual local Lefties in the Union were so arrogant when I tried to explain it to them that, no, George the Greek Papadopoulos will not be serving 2 to 5 years, 30 days. But, no there were citing chapter and verses out of the lamestream media and I be…among other things….dead wrong. It’s 5 years!
    They are still convinced that Cohen went to Prague during the campaign and shook hands with the former KGB agents and to seal the Collusion deal. Yes, Michael Cohen went to Prague, but not that Michael Cohen. Nellie Ohr bobbled that one.
    Anyway, whoever warned me never to argue on FB was a wise man. Especially the ones who wrote letters to the editor that the Union should endorse My Gal Hill. 🙂
    Oh Donald, that is not being very magnanimous.
    https://mobile.twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1038180008479608832?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1038180008479608832&ref_url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.foxnews.com%2Fpolitics%2F2018%2F09%2F07%2Fformer-trump-campaign-adviser-george-papadopoulos-sentenced-to-14-days-in-prison-for-lying-to-fbi.html

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  17. Todd Juvinall Avatar
    Todd Juvinall

    Honestly, I think Obama is mentally ill. His speech was so self-serving and ego-filled it was painful to listen to. He takes credit for the economy. He complains that he was pure about hating the fawning press he got. This man needs the white suit and some rest.

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  18. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    Yep, you can indict a ham sandwich.
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/prosecutors-use-grand-jury-as-investigation-of-andrew-mccabe-intensifies/2018/09/06/aa922b2e-b137-11e8-9a6a-565d92a3585d_story.html?utm_term=.92a7c3fb0539
    Now, let’s take a lookie who Comey hired to be his lawyers. Patrick Fitzgerald, the independent counsel going after Scooter Libby for leaking, David Kelley, a former deputy U.S. attorney under Comey in New York, and former federal prosecutor Dan Richman, a Columbia Law School professor.Dan Richman, a Columbia Law School professor.
    Dan Richman of Comey memo given to the professor fame? Didn’t know he was a former federal prosecutor. What a small world.
    https://www.vox.com/2017/6/8/15762600/daniel-richman-columbia-university-comey-hearing-memo
    Ah, indict all them ham sandwiches. Can’t hurt.

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  19. Paul Emery Avatar

    Wow, George the Greek only got 15 days!!! That’s really bad news for the RR Circle Jerks.
    that means he sang his way out of jail.

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  20. Todd Juvinall Avatar
    Todd Juvinall

    Paul Emery, can you give us your proof?

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  21. Walt Avatar

    Right on time. The Fake news from a piss poor news dude.

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  22. Don Bessee Avatar
    Don Bessee

    Yo, yo, yo, 0 you didn’t build that!
    https://www.atr.org/thanks-tax-reform-utilities-are-lowering-rates
    😉

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  23. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    Be careful what you ask for, Dems. Hey, somebody swiped their memos. The whole gang was there, them naughty racists. Durbin, Leahy, Reid…..are you sure you really want to go down that road?
    In one purloined email, an aide to Dick Durbin told his boss that liberal activists in the meeting “identified Miguel Estrada (D.C. Circuit) as especially dangerous, because he has a minimal paper trail, he is Latino, and the White House seems to be grooming him for a Supreme Court appointment.”
    “Especially dangerous, because … he is Latino.” As Lithwick put it: grotesque.
    https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/because-he-is-latino-the-glorious-history-of-the-democrats-filibuster-fight
    Leahy just reminded everyone of the content of “Memogate,” something he probably should have avoided.
    https://www.dailywire.com/news/35532/schow-democrat-kavanaugh-hearing-reminds-everyone-ashe-schow
    Everything they do keeping blowing up in their faces.

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  24. Walt Avatar

    Leave it to a Calif. LIB to insult the Constitution.
    https://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2018/09/07/watch-kamala-harris-calls-kavanaughs-pocket-constitution-that-book-you-carry/
    Sen. Kamala Harris (D-CA) described a pocket-sized version of the U.S. Constitution belonging to Supreme Court nominee Brett Kavanaugh as “that book you carry,” on day three of the judge’s confirmation hearing.
    “Asking Judge Kavanaugh which unenumerated rights he would do away with”
    The best part is where the good Judge gives her a good slap across the chops.
    “Kavanaugh replied, “Three points I believe, senator, first the constitution, it is in the book that I carry. The constitution protects unenumerated rights. That’s what the Supreme Court has said.” “

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  25. '''M''' Avatar
    ”’M”’

    ,,,the trumpski white house witch hunt is going well!!!

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  26. George Rebane Avatar

    Is there any norm against a duly elected administration that the Dems – now with the historical entry of Obama to defend his dreadful administration – have not violated?
    No liberal has at any time wanted to define the terms they use in a debate; their implied meanings meander with all the constancy of the Queen of Hearts. Lots of talk about ‘witch hunts’, with no one stopping to define it. Here’s the sense within which I use ‘witch hunt’ – An effort to discover something and/or someone that is neither constrained nor purposed, save so as to uncover something/anything pejorative against a political target that proceeds without any evidential basis or promise of success. The political profit of witch hunts is from the continuance of an investigation for the sake of providing fodder for directed propaganda. Alternative definitions invited.

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  27. Walt Avatar

    Is was such a bright move for Musk to smoke dope and drink the hard stuff while being interviewed. Then again, if the stock price in my Co. was circling the drain I would probably do the same.
    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6142193/Elon-Musk-smokes-JOINT-live-Joe-Rogan-Experience-podcast.html
    “Tesla shares plunge SIX PERCENT- wiping $3.1BILLION off the company value – after Elon Musk’s wild pot-smoking, whiskey-drinking rambling podcast and company’s top accountant quits”

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  28. Walt Avatar

    Dr.R.,,, Let them trot out “O” all they want. It reminds us why we elected Trump.
    LIBS have a real short memory. They forgot how using “O” against Trump worked out the first time. Every damned one lost.
    ” HI! I’m President “O”, and I’m coming to support your run for office!” Really? Uh,, I will be out of town… Thanks, but NO THANKS!!!

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  29. Scott Obermuller Avatar

    BT at 4:44 – “Everything they do keeping blowing up in their faces.”
    And again –
    https://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2018/09/07/sen-dianne-feinstein-provides-fake-statistics-on-maternal-deaths-from-illegal-abortions/
    “Estimates of the number of illegal abortions in the 1950s and 1960s ranged from 200,000 to 1.2 million per year,” Guttmacher states…”
    With a range like that, it’s obvious they don’t have a clue.
    These idiots don’t even understand that individual states can still have legal abortion on demand if Roe V Wade is overturned.
    I think it’s the risk of losing tax payer money that’s really scaring them. The left is never happy with just being able to do something – they are only satisfied when the tax payers have to dole out the money for it to happen.

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  30. Scott Obermuller Avatar

    Hogg Boy shoots himself again.
    https://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2018/09/07/david-hogg-kavanaugh-wrong-ar-15s-shoot-further-handguns/
    “The effective range of an AR-15 is 1600 feet for comparison your typical handgun is 75 feet if you’re shooting somebody from 1600 feet away you’re not defending yourself… …you’re hunting.”
    Well – if some one is 1600′ feet away from me and is shooting at me and I shoot back – I’m not defending myself?
    What if they’re 80′ away? Hogg Boy just admitted that a handgun is no good.
    And Hogg Boy – you just admitted that AR-15s are good for hunting.
    Oops.

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  31. Paul Emery Avatar

    Well Scott at least Todd agrees with me that woman have the right to choose. where do you stand on that?

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  32. Walt Avatar

    Scott. Tell Paul, the cost of “the pill” for one month is less than the cost of a day’s supply of crack cocaine. But we the taxpayer need to foot the bill according to Saint Paul.

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  33. Walt Avatar

    LIBS choke on it again.
    They cry.” where are the wage increases?” Well, they must be blind.
    https://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2018/09/06/trumps-tight-labor-market-wins-u-s-construction-workers-higher-wages/
    “Most recently, the tight labor market helped reintegrate retirees back into the workforce. Breitbart News has also reported extensively on how the tight labor market in Trump’s “hire American” economy has brought new job opportunities for Americans with disabilities and helped lower the demographic group’s unemployment rate.
    There has also been history-making wage growth for American workers in the construction industry, the garment industry, for workers employed at small businesses, black Americans, and restaurant workers.
    The tight labor market has also secured higher wages for overtime workers and high-paying, coveted white-collar jobs for American teenagers. Most recently, Breitbart News reported that the construction industry has had to recruit women to take jobs at higher wages rather than hiring illegal aliens. A Chick-Fil-A in California has even raised wages to $18 an hour to retain workers.”

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  34. Walt Avatar

    Trump did what “O” threatened to do. ” The fundamental transformation of America.” Only Trump did it for the better.
    Trump has the U.S. running like a well oiled, belt fed, 1919

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  35. Don Bessee Avatar
    Don Bessee

    Shouldn’t that be radio Farta?
    Iranian lawmakers are urging the country’s regime to consider rationing food and using food coupons as the pressure of U.S. sanctions begin to take their toll, Radio Farda reported this week.
    On Tuesday, the parliament approved a bill calling on the regime to begin importing food items such as meat, rice, sugar, bread, and other essential commodities and start selling them at subsidized prices at cooperatives and state-owned shops that would allow more people to access and afford them.
    The bill asks the regime “to organize a network for the distribution of essential commodities via cooperatives, state-owned shops, as well as labor organizations and work-places in order to distribute families’ requirements at a subsidized rate.”
    https://www.breitbart.com/national-security/2018/09/05/report-iran-may-start-rationing-food-to-insulate-effect-of-u-s-sanctions/
    😉

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  36. ’’’M’’’ Avatar
    ’’’M’’’

    Walt at 513pm,,,me thinks the Musketeer is having a midlife crisis
    ,,,maybe his next purchase will be a Dodge Hellcat!!!

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  37. ’’’M’’’ Avatar
    ’’’M’’’

    George at 510pm,,,
    Witch-Hunt,,,nice try George,,,
    From wiki,,,’’’A modern definition for “witch hunt” is an investigation usually conducted with much publicity, supposedly to uncover subversive activity, disloyalty and so on, but really to weaken political opposition’’’

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  38. Don Bessee Avatar
    Don Bessee

    What about he other 82 identieis?1? Oh its just the new segregation socialist/dem style –
    https://www.thecollegefix.com/university-hosts-separate-orientation-for-black-freshmen/
    😉

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  39. Walt Avatar

    Witch hunt? More like the Salem Witch trials.
    Lack of evidence be damned! It’s the seriousness of the charge!

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  40. Don Bessee Avatar
    Don Bessee

    Ouch, couldn’t even get the home town rags to clap for that dumb ass Harris Booker spectacle or is it Booker Harris?
    https://www.breitbart.com/california/2018/09/07/l-a-times-s-f-chronicle-kamala-harris-failed-miserably-at-brett-kavanaugh-hearing/
    😉

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  41. Don Bessee Avatar
    Don Bessee

    So did nike just vampire off the NFL?
    That’s another year of straight double digit decline for the NFL and NBC. With last years opener holding the previous record, the 2018 battle in Philly is also the worst any kickoff game has done since 2009.
    In fast affiliates, the season opener drew a 6.6/27 among adults 18-49. A drop of 14% from the final demo numbers of the September 7, 2017 game.
    😉

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  42. Scott Obermuller Avatar

    from Paul (who won’t answer my questions but repeatedly demands that I answer his):
    “Well Scott at least Todd agrees with me that woman have the right to choose. where do you stand on that? ”
    Right to choose what? Are you talking about choosing to kill their unborn child – a human life – because she doesn’t want to be bothered? Is that what you are asking me?
    I’ll have to assume so, since you certainly will never answer me.
    First of all – there is no ‘right to choose’ in the Constitution. The idea that a person can ‘choose’ to end an innocent person’s life was never even considered as a ‘unenumerated’ right.
    If the child is born, the father shares in the responsibility of caring and providing for that child. Or at least he should. If the father is expected to be responsible for the child, then it follows that the father shall have the commensurate rights as well. So we first need to see that the father, as well as the mother have an equal say (legally) in any decision to possibly end the child’s life. In fact, the mother can jolly well go off and kill the child and there’s not a lot the father can do about it. There have been a few cases involving the father trying to stop the mother from aborting his (their) child but reality is that the mother’s wishes trump the father’s by default no matter what any court decides.
    In most cases, the pregnant woman contemplating abortion is not married to the father and in a large number of cases, may not even be in contact with the father.
    So.
    Does the woman have the ‘right’ to kill the unborn human life inside of her?
    At this point in time, in the US, the answer is, legally – yes. There are provisions that certain guidelines are to be followed. Usually these involve a time limit on the stage of growth of the child.
    Apparently the appearance of a human life needs to hew to certain precepts to be regarded as actually human. If they appear to be somewhat below the thresh hold of whatever arbitrary standard is set, then they are not deemed to be a human. Or they are deemed to be a human but are too far removed in appearance to have suddenly acquired any human rights. I’m not sure about this since no one who accepts these standards seems to want to talk about it. Most pro-abortion on demand folks seem to have the idea that since they are not sure of what it is, you may as well go ahead and kill it.
    There are many arguments in favor of abortion on demand that point to scenarios involving – incest, rape, the expectant mother’s poverty, the expectant mother’s youth and so on. Incest and rape are certainly horrific and criminal but we do not solve the problem by killing the innocent child. In fact – PP is pretty blase about underage girls getting abortions in order to cover up statutory rape.
    If you want to know my final answer (personally) as to whether or not a woman has the right to choose to kill an innocent human life, I would simply ask you to point any woman and then I would ask you if she has the right to kill you.
    Or do you think you have more rights than other humans based on nothing more than your age?

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  43. George Rebane Avatar

    Well, it looks like my 510pm nailed the definition of ‘witch hunt’. In fact mine is more complete, but the accepted “modern” one is close enough. By either definition, the bottom line is that Mueller is conducting a witch hunt, while the WH looking for the inside Trump resister and potentially criminal leaker is not.

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