283 responses to “Sandbox – 1sep18”

1. 

   Todd Juvinall

   04 September 2018

   Here is why you cannot believe these pollsters. This from RCP and ABC/WaPo paid poll. If you think this reflected the makeup of America you have to be a liberal. This was about Rep/dem voting in the midterms.
   Q: Generally speaking, do you usually think of yourself as a…
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   Democrat 33
   Republican 25
   Independent 37
   Other (Vol.) 3
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   Todd Juvinall

   04 September 2018

   These polls remind me of 2016 where they were all piling on right before the election.

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   Robert Cross

   04 September 2018

   George 10:31– These are excerpts from Bob Woodward’s new book, “Fear: Trump in the White House” due out 9/11 and started showing up on CNN this morning. Some of them have surfaced before like the Tillerson quote that was made public while he was still in office and he has never denied making.

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   Gregory

   04 September 2018

   “Are you on record as speaking out about the “lock me up” chants during the election aimed at Hillary Clinton? She wasn’t even arrested or indicted”
   -Punchy
   No, she wasn’t even arrested or indicted and that does appear to many to be because the FBI had made the decision not to at the beginning of the “investigation” of the person Jim Comey believed would be his next boss.
   Looking at all the words in an indictment isn’t the same as reading them for comprehension, Paul.

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   Scott Obermuller

   04 September 2018

   Bobby at 10:29 and 11:24: OK – now consider all of that and remember that Trump is more truthful than Obama in what he said he would do as POTUS when running for office vs how he is actually governing. Also consider that as stupid as he is claimed to be, he is making far better decisions as POTUS than Obama.
   Again – for the slower kids here: I do not approve of many things Trump has done nor will I excuse them. He goes off about trivial things he should leave alone and blows his mouth off with exaggerated claims. The only question that matters is whether or not this country is better off with Trump as pres vs Hillary. It’s not even close.

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6. 

   George Rebane

   04 September 2018

   PaulE 1052am – No Paul, be serious, of course I don’t know who conducted the investigation when. And the ‘when’ part is what I asked, not you. But given its duration, I’m willing to bet the ranch that it was no one within a level or two of the AG. That’s the way things are done in such bureaucracies. So please pull in your usual diversionary questions which have nothing to do with the topic at hand. (I see you’re again off the point with Gregory on whether not when sufficient evidence existed, and what the function of an indictment is in a legal proceeding. This gets boring pretty fast.)

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7. 

   Don Bessee

   04 September 2018

   Ya gotta have your priorities, now we better understand theirs –
   http://www.foxnews.com/us/2018/09/04/san-francisco-bans-plastic-straws-but-streets-are-littered-with-free-hypodermic-needle-caps.html
   😉

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8. 

   George Rebane

   04 September 2018

   DonB 1152am – Yes, yes – socialism on parade. Thanks Mr Bessee.

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9. 

   Gregory

   04 September 2018

   “Of course the indictments do not contain the exact evidence”
   -Punchy
   Paul, the indictments do not contain ANY evidence.
   This is why “Green Libertarians” are not libertarian at all. Trial by indictment. Game over. The rules of evidence do not apply when it’s an opposition member of Congress being indicted.

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    Todd Juvinall

    04 September 2018

    The evidence is missing in indictments as they are allegations.
    Bob Woodward? Please, he has no creds with me or many people. His bosom buddy Berstein was on the air last week screaming that Trump was a this or tha. Not trustworthy.

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11. 

    Don Bessee

    04 September 2018

    OK, so not born in Columbia, not Jewish, didn’t grow up poor but upper middle class –
    http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2018/09/04/dem-socialist-candidate-julia-salazars-mother-and-brother-expose-more-inconsistencies-in-her-bio.html
    😉

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12. 

    Bill Tozer

    04 September 2018

    @ 12:53 pm
    Immigranted all the way from Miami, eh?

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13. 

    Paul Emery

    04 September 2018

    did you read the indictments Gregory?

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14. 

    Don Bessee

    04 September 2018

    Snowflakes meltdown over squirt guns!
    https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/utterly-tasteless-people-freaking-victoria-david-beckhams-kids-shooting-water-guns-british-vogue-shoot-113538936.html
    😉

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15. 

    George Rebane

    04 September 2018

    PaulE 140pm – Does this mean that you are still puzzled as to why Trump tweeted about DoJ’s timing the release of the indictments, and that you’ve abandoned the 703pm thread you started? It pays to remember that the contents and verity of the indictment are not the issue here, it is their release timing viz the span and conclusion of the investigation. But I do agree that diverting to the indictment’s contents does change the subject.

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16. 

    Paul Emery

    04 September 2018

    I created the”topic at hand” George when I noted
    “Once again Trump tries to cuddle up to one of his backers by discrediting Sessions and Justice Department for doing their job. ”
    At this point George you diverted the question to raise the ol conspiracy theory that these things may be directed by a secret stash of Democratic directed DOJ prosecutors that timed the whole indictment to do the most harm for Trump and the Republicans. So far not a shred of evidence to verify that. Can you provide something

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17. 

    Don Bessee

    04 September 2018

    @233 seems to have not heard of Strock, Ohr and rest of the cabal in the swamp, so the stash is not so secret anymore ya po’ ol’ fakenewsman.

    Its the economy stupid!
    https://www.marketwatch.com/story/american-manufacturers-growing-at-fastest-pace-in-14-years-ism-finds-2018-09-04
    😉

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18. 

    George Rebane

    04 September 2018

    PaulE 233pm – I created no “conspiracy theory”, but simply answered your criticism of Trump’s latest tweet about the release of the indictments with a plausible explanation of why Trump responded as he did. We can get back to your topic if you have a better explanation for Trump’s tweet other than that you think he’s an asshole. If it’s the latter, then the discussion ends.

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    Paul Emery

    04 September 2018

    George
    The ” plausible explanation of why Trump responded as he did” which was intentionally timing the indictments to coincide with the elections, would have to be a planned conspiracy wouldn’t you think?

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20. 

    Don Bessee

    04 September 2018

    NEWS FLASH!
    Muller has announced he will accept written responses from the Presidents Lawyers, NO INTERVIEW!
    I hear the po’ ol’ fakenewsman is going to have a massive popcorn clearance sale.
    🙂

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21. 

    Bill Tozer

    04 September 2018

    Due process on campuses may be forthcoming.
    https://patriotpost.us/articles/58020-due-process-even-on-college-campuses

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22. 

    Bill Tozer

    04 September 2018

    Dr. Rebane did say last week that it’s going to get worse and more hideous.. Yep, ‘tis true, tis true. They have gone from a 4 hour undignified charade of honoring the dead to an eight hour desecration of the dead. Is nothing sacred? They are getting worse by the hour.
    “What possessed them? How could Minnesota’s Democrats have been so foolish as to turn a memorial meeting for eight people tragically killed in a plane crash into a campaign rally for the United States Senate?
    The Paul Wellstone memorial pep rally will be recorded as one of the supreme mistakes in recent political history – an entirely avoidable and unnecessary fiasco.
    Just how big a fiasco? Jesse Ventura, the state’s independent governor, said he felt “violated” by the four-hour event.
    It was a four-hour political rally for Democrats, including a booing of Republicans that even had Wellstone’s own campaign manager issuing statements of humbled apology for the rancorous, undignified scene.
    https://www.themaven.net/theresurgent/contributors/wellstone-memorial-part-deux-left-turns-aretha-s-funeral-into-anti-trump-circus-yjLNz6G0Q0m45v0fCo5o2Q/
    ——————————-
    Labor Day tribute.
    https://babylonbee.com/news/socialists-gather-on-labor-day-to-protest-concept-of-labor/

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23. 

    ”’M”’

    04 September 2018

    ,,,now I know where fishbreathe and Walter get their talking points,,,
    “‘Rudy, you’re a baby,” Trump reportedly said. “I’ve never seen a worse defense of me in my life. They took your diaper off right there. You’re like a little baby that needed to be changed.’”
    https://tinyurl.com/y9asm8ty

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24. 

    Walt

    04 September 2018

    Capt. Depends rears his smelly behind. Judging by the odor waifing off the ridge someone needs his keeper.

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25. 

    George Rebane

    04 September 2018

    PaulE 332pm – Yep, if 1) the indictment could have been presented much sooner or after the election, AND 2) two or more people planned the timing of its harmful release, then it was indeed a conspiracy.

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26. 

    Scott Obermuller

    04 September 2018

    Bob Woodward’s book looks like a Hollywood tell-all. Great stuff for 12 year old girls. It’s all hearsay, folks. I suppose Bob wants to get his mojo back at age (what 75?) with his book full of ‘claims’.
    Sorry, Bob. You went to sleep (and lots of DC cocktail parties) when the Dems were in power and now you try to take down Trump. Good luck.

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27. 

    Bill Tozer

    04 September 2018

    M
    I owe you an answer. I once wrote that Tony Podesta and Manafort did joint contracts together (business ventures if you will) for the pro Russian Ukrainian government. Both failed to register as lobbyists (agents) for a foreign government. The FBI had a file on Manafort for his working for the Ukrainians after investigating the man in 2011. In 2012 they decided not to file criminal charges where it lay collecting dust. Tony was never charged with failing to register. Tony did after the fact when his name hit the papers. A trail awaits Manafort this month on failing to register. Tony will not see such a trial.
    You asked of me my opinion on WHY is that. Hmmmm. Tough answer. Haven’t a clue.
    Let’s see here. The Special Counsel regulations requires the Special Counsel to specify a crime is suspected of have being committed. The Rosenstein to Mueller original memo was left vague on purpose, not crimes listed to investigate, another violation of the regulations governing the SC statue On May 27,2017.
    When Manafort challenged his indicatments as illegal prosecution (not under the Special Counsels authority) in court, what was previously hidden from the public’s view was Rosenstein’s 2nd Memo to the Independent Counsel, directing Meuller to investigate “allegations that Paul Manafort committed a crime or crimes by colluding with Russian government officials with respect to the Russian government’s efforts to i terfer with the 2016 election law for President of the United States, in violation of United States law.” What law? What application of the word “Collusion”?
    That second “secret memo” was dated August 3rd to cover Rosenstein and Meuller’s tracks Unfortunately for Lady Justice, Meuller had ordered the FBI to raid Manafort’s home a week earlier on July 26th, 2017. Meuller pointed to his CYA August 2, 2017 Secret Memo as his authoration to investigate Mueller for colluding with the Russians in the 2016election. Colluding in the political areana is not a criminal act, not a crime. Meuller cannot investigate non crimes.
    So, to answer your question M, I would hazard to guess Manafort was chosen for prosecution and Tony Podesta was not because…..drumroll please….Lady Justice is wearing an eye patch. I could be wrong. 🙂

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28. 

    Don Bessee

    04 September 2018

    Oh crap I didn’t mean to say that in front of a camera, *$@)) iphones!
    Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer, D-N.Y., told a bystander who asked when President Trump would be impeached, “The sooner the better.”
    Schumer’s comment appeared to be a sharp break from his own previous rhetoric and that of other party leaders, who have avoided discussing impeachment proceedings for fear of alienating moderate voters ahead of November’s midterm elections.
    “When are y’all going to impeach Trump?” someone calls out in the footage from behind a barricade as Schumer, carrying a megaphone, walks past with his security detail in the West Indian-American Day parade.
    “The sooner the better,” Schumer quickly replies. The same bystander apparently counters: “‘The sooner the better?’ That’s not answering the question.”
    “We gotta get a few Republicans,” Schumer responds. “Democrats are on your side.” Impeaching the president requires a majority of votes in the House of Representatives, which Democrats do not currently have; removing the president would then require a two-thirds vote of the Senate.
    http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2018/09/04/schumer-tells-raucous-crowd-sooner-better-on-trump-impeachment-later-claims-misheard-question.html
    😉

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29. 

    Scott Obermuller

    04 September 2018

    from GR at 2:20 – referring to Paul’s post – “…and that you’ve abandoned the 703pm thread you started?”
    Paul has abandoned a lot lately. Remember when Trump was a ‘Putin Cuddler’?
    Paul doesn’t. Go ahead – ask him. Wave your hand in front of his face.
    Hello – Paul?

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30. 

    Scott Obermuller

    04 September 2018

    Well – Dicks already cut their dick off and Nike’s stock has gone down.
    Not to be outdone:
    https://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2018/09/04/levi-strauss-launches-million-dollar-gun-control-campaign/
    The stock holders might start to get a bit pissed about these lefty ‘feel good’ measures.
    A multi-millionaire who “sacrifices everything”. (Nike) And how much did Kap sacrifice to Nike? Everything? He’s out on the road with a bindle?
    Stupid gets a new boost.
    Memo to Levi – It’s a loser, dude. You think you’re the only ones selling jeans?
    How’s that In ‘N Out boycott coming along?

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31. 

    Scott Obermuller

    04 September 2018

    from CA crone: “.@SenFeinstein: “If the Supreme Court were to adopt your reasoning I fear the number of victims would continue to grow and citizens would be rendered powerless in enacting sensible gun laws.” pic.twitter.com/gj08RtJVM2”
    ‘I fear’. Well – that’s an intelligent way to govern.
    Me? I stick to facts, science and reason. You lefties have fun with your fear.
    And what are these ‘sensible gun laws’? I’ve been hearing about them for decades. Yet they have no form nor substance. As does the American left.

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32. 

    Scott Obermuller

    04 September 2018

    This stuff just writes itself – “The people closest to the pain should be closest to the power, driving and informing the policy making.”
    And what if the ‘pain’ is self inflicted?
    I guess more’s the better.
    Say, do you need help drawing that razor across your throat?
    https://www.thedailybeast.com/ayanna-pressley-ousts-20-year-incumbent-michael-capuano-in-massachusetts-primary-shocker
    Oh yeah – losers need to be the leaders. Because, well BECAUSE!
    Nice to not have to have any sort of rational answer to the problems facing the nation. Keep it up, lefties. We still have the production of value, the Constitution and intelligence.
    What do you lefties bring to the table?

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33. 

    Paul Emery

    04 September 2018

    Did you read the indictment Scott?

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34. 

    Gregory

    04 September 2018

    Paul, define “read”.

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35. 

    Scott Obermuller

    04 September 2018

    from Paul – “Did you read the indictment Scott?”
    Of the ‘Putin Cuddler’?
    Remember him?
    Who are you talking about?
    Which post are you referring to?

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36. 

    Don Bessee

    04 September 2018

    Thank the criminal cuddlers aka the dem/socialists for ruining citizen children’s futures in so many ways including this –
    “Studies have found that it affects children the most because see illegal aliens prefer to use children’s’ Social Security Numbers because your child … won’t apply for a loan for years, so the illegal aliens probably won’t be caught for decades possibly,” Wilcox said.
    “A lot of Americans are being harmed by this. These poor kids, when they go to get their first school loan or car loan, they’ve got criminal histories … and bad credit,” Wilcox said. “This is not a victimless crime.”
    https://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2018/09/04/investigation-potentially-39m-cases-of-identity-theft-by-illegal-aliens-in-last-four-years/
    😉

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37. 

    Bill Tozer

    04 September 2018

    Aha. The picture is getting clearer.
    Papadopoulos denied knowing anything about the hacked emails when Halper raised the question (which, by the way, is entirely consistent with Papadopoulos’s claim that the Russians had Hillary Clinton’s emails). While the press conflates the two, the hacked emails were the Democratic National Committee (DNC) emails, while the emails Papadopoulos believed Mifsud meant were the ones missing from Hillary’s homebrew server.
    So, let’s lay it out: In September 2016, the FBI used an informant in an attempt to ensnare Papadopoulos and establish collusion between the Trump campaign and Russia’s hacking of the DNC emails. Then in January 2017, after Papadopoulos confirmed Mifsud was the source of his claim that the Russians had “dirt” on Hillary, and had agreed to cooperate and contact Mifsud, and after the FBI “located” Mifsud in D.C., the FBI didn’t use Papadopoulos to ensnare the supposed Russian-agent whose purported foreknowledge of the hack justified the launch of the Crossfire Hurricane investigation.
    http://thefederalist.com/2018/09/04/papadopouloss-court-docs-provide-evidence-russiagate-setup-get-trump/

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38. 

    Walt

    04 September 2018

    Seems Paul’s ability to see a white supremacist behind every tree
    is contagious.
    https://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2018/09/04/mexican-jewish-woman-behind-kavanaugh-falsely-accused-of-making-white-power-sign/
    “Deranged left-wing activists and anti-Trump agitators falsely accused Zina Bash, the woman of Mexican-Jewish descent who was seated behind Supreme Court nominee Brett Kavanaugh during Tuesday’s Senate confirmation hearings, of making a “white power sign.” ”
    Did you see it to Paul? Will you confirm or deny the hand signals?

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39. 

    Bill Tozer

    04 September 2018

    Walt
    The Nevada City PD sent the fingerprints off the White Supremist sign and the results are back. Only one set of fingerprints. Looks like an inside job.

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40. 

    Don Bessee

    04 September 2018

    Inside KVMR @824? 😉

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41. 

    Scott Obermuller

    04 September 2018

    Still waiting to hear about the Putin Cuddler.

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42. 

    Scott Obermuller

    04 September 2018

    The left wing multi billion dollar ‘woke’ campaign.
    https://www.nationalreview.com/the-morning-jolt/colin-kaepernicks-controversial-nike-campaign/
    Maybe Cap can set up a Go Fund Me deal. After all – he’s given up ‘everything’.
    Probably living in an old Chevy Nova in South Central.
    Right?

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43. 

    Scott Obermuller

    04 September 2018

    Still waiting to hear from Paul.

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44. 

    Paul Emery

    04 September 2018

    For you’re reading pleasure
    Dems lead in Generic Congress poll highest since January. Trump slump peaking for the Fall elections.
    Dems 48.5 Pubs 39
    Yes that’s correct 39…

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45. 

    “M”

    05 September 2018

    ,,,BillT 534pm,,, so you say Podesta and Manafort did contracts together,,,what do you mean??? Sources please…
    Were the two involved in identical scopes of work for exactly the same companies or subsidiaries???
    The non-trumpskiite might conclude that Podesta was clean or cleaner than Manafort so Podesta was given immunity.
    Why are you so concerned with Podesta anyhow,,,just because he is a Dem??? He is not the one on trial

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46. 

    Scott Obermuller

    05 September 2018

    “just because he is a Dem??? He is not the one on trial”
    Yeah – what a coincidence, huh?

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47. 

    Bill Tozer

    05 September 2018

    I remember this story about the CIA scratching their heads trying to figure out how and why our CIA agents in China were getting whacked and tortured.
    Timeline fits. That was about the same time hostile actors were discovered in HRC’s homebrew server.
    https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/clinton-emails-held-indirect-references-undercover-cia-officers-n510741
    https://www.nytimes.com/2017/05/20/world/asia/china-cia-spies-espionage.html
    ——Latest developments.
    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=EXL8NQFUHJ0
    Who knows. The public may never know for sure. That IG has been busy.

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48. 

    Bill Tozer

    05 September 2018

    M
    Kinda busy. Here is the first links that popped up when I just googled “Tony Podesta and Manafort.”
    https://www.businessinsider.com/tony-podesta-russian-backed-lobbying-ukraine-manafort-mueller-russia-2017-10
    https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/after-paul-manafort-and-tony-podesta-troubles-foreign-lobbyists-realize-theyd-better-play-by-the-rules
    More in-depth
    https://www.nytimes.com/2017/11/10/us/politics/john-tony-podesta-mueller-russia-investigation.html
    There, my 20 seconds are over. :). To answer your question, I think they were not after Podesta. Podesta did not serve for a few months on Trump’s campaign. That one Ukrainian-Russian character keeps popping up….Y something. Wonder if he is barred from traveling here under the Obama sanctions….ah, that’s for another day. Lynch let him in.

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49. 

    ”’M”’

    05 September 2018

    Po ol Alex Jones,,,
    https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nytimes.com/2018/07/31/us/politics/alex-jones-defamation-suit-sandy-hook.amp.html

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50. 

    ”’M”’

    05 September 2018

    ,,,and ready set go!!!
    https://www.nytimes.com/2018/09/05/opinion/trump-white-house-anonymous-resistance.html

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