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George Rebane

That Lady Justice today only wears a patch over one eye is apparent to at least half the country.  Mueller’s ongoing investigation, along with the FBI et al investigations that preceded it, gives clear and compelling evidence to the bloom of corruption that has compromised our justice system over the last decade.  Kim Strassel’s ‘When Justice is Partial’ in the 24aug18 WSJ compiles a short and bitter summary of what has gone down.  And here is the strong letter to follow by Canadian Conrad Black.


As our commenters note, white farmers are beginning to have their lands seized, something that South Africa’s ANC party announced, most history-aware people believed, and the Left (led by its oracle NYT) whole heartedly denied and denigrated President Trump for his sentiments on it.  Here is another report on it from the UK.

Do notice more than ever today that the Left firmly believes that the money you earn actually belongs to the government, which then deigns at its pleasure to leave you spend some of it?  And the Right believes that what you earn is yours from which you contribute as little as possible to the government so that you can spend of it as much as possible for yourself and yours.  Another leftie letter in today’s (25aug18) Union makes this point clear as it decries how much of the people’s money the rich are allowed to keep, clearly taking it from the pockets of the poor – the eternal zero sum game of the socialists cum communists.

Our local KVMR as a public radio outlet actually should be in line for more discretionary spending of its government subsidy that will come to them through the PBS.  Howard Hussock of the Manhattan Institute asks “Why should (public radio) stations have to pay for ‘Masterpiece Theatre’ or national radio programming”, instead of devoting more of their journalistic talent for local coverage that includes providing online content such as podcasts and videos? (more here)

IMHO National left/right polarization will make a quantum leap to a much higher level in the next twelve months, exceeding by far anything we have witnessed to date.  On the local level it is already rare for the mixing of conservatives and liberals in scheduled small social events.  Today both sides literally feel uncomfortable being in each other’s company and have to restrain conversation to exchanges of banal daisy talk in order to keep the peace.  And both sides feel totally reasonable in their sentiments since each is convinced the other side wants to take the country down the path to hell.  

[27aug18 update]  Trump’s trade triumph with Mexico is desperately being denigrated by our looney Left that claims the president’s very measured and salutary description of the new trade deal is a sign of his “walking back” the tactic that started with tariffs and promised a trade war.  Wiser heads now understand that the tariffs gambit was really the first step in a process of nouveau reconciliation of beneficial trade agreements that will now cascade with our trading partners like a row of falling dominoes.  The final act will be the renegotiation with China.  But you can bet the ranch that Team Schumer, Pelosi, Waters, …, and the lamestream will do all they can to misrepresent this progress to their lightly read constituencies, a good sampling of whom now populate Nevada County.

[29aug18 update]  The 27aug18 Sandbox has a heated discussion about right/left “violence”.  Paul Emery sent me this photo as evidence of rightwing violence in Nevada City.  It is posted here to further the discussison.

DefacedSign

And there is more to the story.  PaulE sent me another photo of the same sign he reports was recorded by a colleague on 9 May 2017.

DefacedSign2

[31aug18 update]  Does anyone else notice that it’s ALWAYS the Left that attempts to relate the mention of simians, no matter how remote or innocent, as a referent to the Negro race?  No one else ever seeks to make hay out of that hateful connection.

The platform of the Democratic Party has now condensed down to 1) Impeach Trump, 2) Open our borders (abolish USA), and 3) Nationalize healthcare (‘Medicare for all’).  Oh yes, did I mention ‘Impeach Trump’, in case more has to be said?

Nationalism has always been a dirty word for global collectivists, now it is officially a dirty word for progressive Democrats.  For review, the formal definition of nationalism is “a political, social, and economic system characterized by the promotion of the interests of a particular nation, especially with the aim of gaining and maintaining sovereignty over the homeland.”  By that, I am and have always been a nationalist, with the addendum that if our national interests contend, I will always promote America’s interests over that of any other nation, organization, group, … .

MIT-created programming language Julia 1.0 debuts.  The dynamic programming language, which is free and open source, combines the speed and popular features of the best scientific and technical software.  (more here)  Meanwhile, Lithuanian primary school kids will start learning informatics and computer science in a 100-school pilot program designed for nationwide implementation.  Small countries like Lithuania have no choice but to develop their human capital on steroids if they are to remain commercially competitive and a sovereign nation-state. (more here)

Here’s a little quiz – what are the commonalities between Obama’s 2012 candidacy when he had a Democrat Congress behind him, and the upcoming midterms.  Please take a little visit back to yesteryear (here) and compare the arguments before you answer.

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191 responses to “Ruminations – 25aug18 (updated 31aug18)”

  1. Todd Juvinall Avatar
    Todd Juvinall

    Paul Emery do you think you are better than that homeless guy pooping in front of the KVMR doorway?

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  2. Paul Emery Avatar

    Gregory
    I saw the Nazi flags in Nevada County outside a residence. It was in the mid 90’s. I’m told they have since moved on.

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  3. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    I gave you two examples Punchy. Tiger Woods and In-n-Out Burger are now White Supremists, along with every black Conservative in America. It’s a lynching of the worse kind. #1 worse possible thing you can label someone with is paedophile. Number two is racist. Want more!
    Holy Smokes. The news was wrong. That wasn’t even a lawsuit. They settled before it even got that far. 3.35 mill. Wonder how much he could have got in court.
    https://pjmedia.com/trending/about-60-organizations-are-considering-a-lawsuit-against-the-splc-following-3m-nawaz-settlement/
    Time to fight back against the lych mob. Alan Horowitz ain’t going to let them pay him off. He refuses an settlement. He is taking them all the way to court one at a time, starting with Mastercard and Visa. And they don’t this matter in court. Only way is to fight back the lynchers.

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  4. Paul Emery Avatar

    Todd writes
    “Paul Emery do you think you are better than that homeless guy pooping in front of the KVMR doorway?”
    Huh? what is that supposed to mean Todd? You’re losing it old timer. Never any homeless poop at KVMR reported and I work t here.

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  5. Paul Emery Avatar

    Bill
    I take the word lynch literally especially when discussing the Clan. You have a different applied definition to suit your needs of the moment. We’re talking about two different things.

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  6. Walt Avatar

    So Paul’s new bitch is the existence of so called “far right”.
    Yet he has stays REAL quiet about his “far Left” radicals.
    Maybe because he identifies with ANTIFA? Hell Paul,, you even admit to helping “far Left” types. You know, your mimes.

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  7. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    “And once more, does anyone now or ever personally known a white supremacist?”
    Well,Dr. Rebane. I have yet to run into one up here. Nobody use the N word anymore. Not in my circles. Don’t even know where to look for one. Graniteville, Alleghany, NSJ, Nevada City, Grass Valley. Nevada Union? No wait, I got it. Penn Valley!
    Did meet a White Nationalist once. Adjoining county, in his 30’s, stunning in his articulation, depth of history, and calm demeanor when I asked him to explain it to me. Spent two hours listening and asking. Right off the bat, they too have no use for the White Supremists, skinhead, punks, Ganga wannabes, nor want nothing to do with the White Supremist. They are most unwelcomed in their midst.
    Basically, they feel no race is superior to other races and just believe along the lines of birds of a feather flock together. They ain’t the type to ever ever yell racial epithets out the car window. No, it’s just a desire to raise a family and live in a community with their shared values. Kinda like Nevada City. Oh yeah. They believe in culture. You got your culture, I got mine, no prob, Bob. You do your thing, I do my thing. Probably see it as a more harmonious country.
    Probably a bad time to bring up politics is downstream from culture.
    Good Doc, ask Paul. He seems to have spotted them all.

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  8. fish Avatar
    fish

    Posted by: Paul Emery | 31 August 2018 at 11:23 AM
    Been doing shows with the Mimes wince 2000 Fish.

    Indeed…..Mimes have made me wince since 2000 as well…..perhaps even earlier.

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  9. George Rebane Avatar

    PaulE 1123am – I’m discussing white supremacists with you and not some distant people you are pawning off in lieu of an answer. By your response, am I to understand that you do not have a cogent answer to the question you yourself have then gratuitously raised?

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  10. scenes Avatar
    scenes

    “a person who believes that the white race is inherently superior to other races and that white people should have control over people of other races.”
    Well jeez, that’s a vanishingly small bunch of people. I’d probably go with the 2000 (or less) number myself in that case.
    Hell it’s hard enough to have employees, why would any reasonable person want to have ‘control over people of other races’?
    I seriously doubt that even the hardest core Klansman wants to boss around anyone, it’s too much trouble.
    sotto voce: I have a funny feeling that paul thinks there are a bunch of klaverns in the area, all planning world (or at least county) domination. say it ain’t so, joe.

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  11. Todd Juvinall Avatar
    Todd Juvinall

    Paul Emery is so dense that my simple question eludes an answer from him. No wonder he is a greek supremacist.

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  12. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    Hold your horses. About 4:00 pm. Coming out of Safeway in Burger Basin. Right there, in front of God and everybody, here comes this jacked up 4×4 shortbed mudtruck with the biggest Confedete flag I have ever seen flying out of the back of his truck. That flag was huge.
    Now, I don’t go down to the burger basin that often, but, i I saw the same dtruck doing the same thing driving around with that huge Conferate flag about 3 weeks later. What’s up with that. Anyway, I read in the police blotter a spotting in the old Safeway area, and over time another sighting, and now it’s log time no sighting. Maybe it was just some guy who gets his kicks yanking on people’s chains. Probably a southern boy. Say what you want, but I will take a southern boy anytime to be in the foxhole with. Them are crazy mo fros.
    Back to topic. Paul needs to tell us how that house in the late 90’s made him feel. It makes us all feel bad, ok. And I understand his fears this ugly Neo-Nazi movement is growing and does exist. And it might take hold again. I recognize those fears. They aren’t crazy, just stupid. But, you never know. Paul could be right and the numbers could get in the low tens of thousands.
    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=5Hw4Ep4NkoA

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  13. Walt Avatar

    Paul says,”I take the word lynch literally”
    Then you better raise a fuss over a certain “Loretta”, that “O” appointed.
    Then all the other people with that same last name. They might Lynch someone!
    Sorry Paul, that activity wasn’t just perpetrated on minorities.

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  14. scenes Avatar
    scenes

    re: GeorgeR@12:43 “I’m discussing white supremacists with you and not some distant people you are pawning off in lieu of an answer.”
    I’m not sure that he has an opinion that’s based on anything real. Somehow it all spun from ‘the hills are alive with the sound of dangerous groups of KKK people’ to a single death in North Carolina.
    Dunno if James Fields is one of the 2000 ‘white supremacists’ or not.
    The actual situation is an interesting one.
    Fields was a schizophrenic on antipsychotic meds.
    No word if he felt “that white people should have control over people of other races.”
    Safe to say that he had white nationalist view I think.
    Goes to his Charlottesville gig for white nationalist purposes.
    Has people throwing stuff at his car (videos exist on the matter)
    My guess is (it’ll come out in the trial) that he panics and hits some people.
    Heather Heyer, a rather large woman, isn’t hit but falls over in the rush and excitement of crazy guy in a car.
    Heather Heyer dies from falling over.
    Somehow this has something to do with a vast national conspiracy of White Supremacists, especially those with stencils in Nevada County.
    go figure.

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  15. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    It’s been a hard week for the Popinjay. We will skip over the frontal lobe research thang that and go straight to sign. Opps, there was something in the middle. Oh yeah, McCain. Crickets on that Lanny Davis “keep sending your letters and dollars so Cohen can continue to speak the truth” embarrassing episode. Amazing. They can mess up a case they don’t even have. Anyway, me thinks the sign was thing is pushing him valiant warrior closer to the breaking point, but not there yet. Yep, it’s been a hard last few days. Must be the slow news cycle. Hard week.
    Plus, the upcoming biggest money gig of the year for KVMR, the notorious festival celebrating White Priviledge Of People From “That Area”. He did say he don’t got the time right now, must be busier than a one legged wallpaper hanger. The show must go on.
    Yo Punchy. I can wait for answers. No prob. I have waited 18 months, so what’s a couple more? Sometime when the mood strikes, just google a Reader’s Digest version of a quick definition of White Nationalist vs White Supremist. Two paragraphs is too long. Jus trying to help a brother out so we both can be on the same page. It’s a mute point anyway. Every Republican is a racist now, so it don’t really matter if they are White Nationalist or White skinheads or even white.
    Now, who are the Berekely Traitors? Those who betrayed their Berekely values? Traitors to whom? Berekely? Trailors to America for which we stand? Did like the key words Patriot, Traitor, Deport, Berekely all on the same page. Kinda describes the Great Divide in a nut shell if you juxipose them. That stink ass thing is kind of funny if you look at it in a different light. Seems so Beavis, so middle school, yet so old school. Before Mel Brooks. Vaudeville or off color Cabaret. Maybe someone who got booted from the Troupe and moved up here. Hell hath no fury as a woman scorned…..
    Re:Update: The newest oldest pic. Oh my. The mystery Guillermo artist of Nevada County used red lettering on the muslin draped over road hazard barrier. Should have been orange, duh. Ain’t from around here for sure. Yep, blue looks better. You can see the evolution of the spray stencil technique with the sign Punchy ripped down. That gal is getting better, perfecting her craft. The first one looked like her teenage son did it.

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  16. scenes Avatar
    scenes

    “Every Republican is a racist now, so it don’t really matter if they are White Nationalist or White skinheads or even white.”
    That, of course, is the heart of the matter. The rest is just handwaving.
    I think I like the idea of a protest at the KVMR White Peeples Festival. At the very least, you could get the organizers to apologize for something or the other. Maybe some sort of manifesto laying out their many crimes.

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  17. scenes Avatar
    scenes

    On a separate matter from the KVMR White Peeples Festival, an example of a new and improved library concept.

    The University Libraries have enhanced and added inclusive, non-Library of Congress subject headings to 5,367 library catalog records on the topic of “immigration”, in an effort to foster diversity and inclusion in the libraries and on campus.
    Library users can carry out keyword searches using more ethical subject headings, without being limited to using problematic subject headings such as “illegal aliens” in the library catalog. The subject headings added include:
    1. Noncitizens
    2. Undocumented immigrants
    3. Immigrant detention centers
    4. Children of undocumented immigrants
    5. Undocumented immigrant children
    6. Undocumented immigrants in literature
    7. Women undocumented immigrants
    The addition of the more inclusive subject headings may foster student academic success by creating inclusive atmospheres as one part of the Libraries’ Strategic Plan for 2016-2020.
    https://www.colorado.edu/libraries/2018/08/19/inclusive-spaces-and-practices

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  18. Paul Emery Avatar

    RE George 12:43
    to the question you yourself have then gratuitously raised?
    George
    Having to deal with skinhead racists at punk shows is pretty down home as was the feeling of comfort and security of the folks that lived in the same town as declared Nazi’s who had to co-exist with Hitlers birthday party right down the street.
    What happened to the so called distant people you refer to could very well happen in our own town if one of the racist wacko’s goes active in his fervor like what happened in Charlottesvills.
    the hate sign posted the day of the Mime Troupe caused me to notify the police about the possibility of radical right wingers trying to take on the “deportation ” process on their own.
    All for now. Gotta go.

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  19. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    “Shite is Irish for shit. Meant to be white but it works.”
    Posted by: Paul Emery | 30 August 2018 at 02:16 PM
    Boy, he really hates while people. Kinda figured that’s a given and comes with the Lefty territory. That hasn’t changed in decades. Can’t blame him. White people can’t dance.
    http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2018/08/31/susan-rice-mocks-uk-prime-minister-theresa-may-for-awkward-dance-moves-somebody-help-her-please.html
    That sign got him a fired up.

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  20. Walt Avatar

    Paul says, “Having to deal with skinhead racists at punk shows is pretty down home as was the feeling of comfort and security of the folks that lived in the same town as declared Nazi’s who had to co-exist with Hitlers birthday party right down the street.”
    To take a page from Paul,,, PROVE IT!!!
    I say your full of shit.
    So the poor Berkeley clowns got a dose of their own idealism.
    Cry us a river Paul. I guess you forget again the treatment “visitors” to Berkeley got. Nothing but hate from the city of “inclusiveness”, compassion, and supposed “freedom of speech”.
    Did the rednecks drive up and down Nevada city in smoke belching pickups raising hell? Were they waiving AR15s? I didn’t see any noose hanging from a street lamp in the paper,,,.
    Yes, I say your making BS up . Nevada City is just Berkeley of the foothills. They were among friends.

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  21. Don Bessee Avatar
    Don Bessee

    All of this because the po’ ol’ fakenewsman once saw a skinhead in the 90’s?
    It sounds like the po’ ol’ putin party parrot should take this class –
    https://www.breitbart.com/tech/2018/08/31/uc-berkeley-offers-class-on-deconstructing-whiteness/
    😉

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  22. Walt Avatar

    This isn’t “justice”. It’s extortion and blackmail.
    http://dailycaller.com/2018/08/31/michael-cohen-trump-mueller/
    “Cohen thought he simply had no other choice but to plead guilty to protect his family as prosecutors threatened more counts that could have implicated his wife, a source close to Cohen told CNN. Prosecutors also raised the specter of Cohen’s assets being seized if he didn’t flip.”
    As it seems to be the case,,he has nothing to “flip” with.

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  23. George Rebane Avatar

    PaulE 315pm – Please reread my 1109am, and tell me why you are having trouble answering those questions. Enough with the diversions.

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  24. Don Bessee Avatar
    Don Bessee

    Good luck with that @450. 😉

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  25. Don Bessee Avatar
    Don Bessee

    Sounds like a bunch of green libertarians who are neither –
    https://www.sfgate.com/burningman/article/Burning-Man-garbage-reno-dumping-leave-no-trace-13186812.php
    😉

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  26. Walt Avatar

    You should ALL fell a lot safer, now that the state has pretty much closed the jails.
    Catch and release take on a whole new meaning.
    http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2018/08/31/californias-bail-bondsmen-say-new-law-will-totally-kill-business-this-is-bad.html
    Keep the home defense tool close at hand.

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  27. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    Well, Punchy has his fears. Maybe some of the boys with drive up to Nevada City, come through the back door of some restaurant and grab Rosa. Throw a feed sack over her head, tie her up by good, and toss her in the back of the pickup and haul her butt down to ICE in Sac or Frisco or wherever they are. Maybe club her a couple of times in the head if she starts making too much noise back there while we are a tootlin’ down the highway.
    Nah, we will leave Rosa alone. The easiest pickings would be the White People Privilege Festival coming up. It would be like honey to the flies. Expired visas all day long.
    Imagine if you will some fine Irish lassies got a visa to come over to the States three or so years ago. Into the music scene. Traveled around with the group, liked it here, and just never went back. Maybe settled in with a some local fiddle player in these parts and started going the jig together, she soothing the savage beast with the harp on frosty nights.
    Maybe her old friends from the band and fellow country ladies are making the rounds and coming to the Fairgrounds. Just like last year. All the Irish and bagpipers and those other people will be a coming out of hiding to kick up their heels at the White Privilege People Festival. That’s when you nab them. They overstayed their visas.
    Bonk the ladies over the head as well, throw the feed sack over them and I will meet ya behind the livestock area. Back in and turn the engine off and wait. Heck, I would not be surprised if one of those illegals has been volunteering at the local FM Station once a week. They do have funny accents, but a least they understand English. Sure play a lot of Irish singers songs, now that I think about it.
    Wouldn’t it be something if ICE jumped up on the stage and hauled one off during the middle of a set? Boy, that would get the pitchforks and torches out and bust up a perfectly good music love fest. That would be something.
    Punchy would not care. Look, there never was any snakes on the Emerald Isle. The Druids carried the symbol of the snake on their rods and sceptres. Had the snake tattooed on their forearms as well. When St Paddy drove out the snakes, that means pagans, not reptiles. We know how some from that area” look down on the Irish and haven’t forgiven them to this day. I say nab the Irish. Heck, Pnchy ain’t a Druid no more so who cares.

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  28. Paul Emery Avatar

    Walt
    The Nazi’s in the foothills issue I experienced myself having friends in the small town where it happened. I saw the NAZI banners displayed for all to see. Also I experienced the Skinhead incidents because I was in charge of the events and responsible for the show.
    you write:
    “So the poor Berkeley clowns got a dose of their own idealism.”
    The were not from Berkeley Walt. It’s the San Francisco Mime Troupe. the Troupe is an institution in San Francisco having been performing since 1959. They are having their 60th anniversary next year.
    So in you’re view the Troupe deserves whatever could have happened to them because of what happened in Berkeley. Mnnn

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  29. Walt Avatar

    Same diff. Paul.. It’s all “Frisco Bay values”.
    Dad got out of there when he saw the first long hair hippie.
    “The freaks can have it”.. And he was right.
    They butthurt we didn’t throw them a parade?
    Welcome to Nevada County.. Now go home.

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  30. Walt Avatar

    One more thing Paul, people with Right leaning values are not the ones causing violence against opposing opinions. That’s what your side of the fence is known for.
    But go ahead and hyperventilate over a sticker or two.

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  31. Paul Emery Avatar

    PaulE 315pm – George writes:” Please reread my 1109am, and tell me why you are having trouble answering those questions. Enough with the diversions.
    Here was you’re “question George:
    “Circling this barn, tell us again what kind of problem ‘white supremacists’ pose in 2018 America, and why abolishing these people has become an organizing battle cry for Democrats?”
    The White Supremacy movement should be an battle cry for all Americans George not just Democrats.
    What they believe and wish to accomplish is Anti American by any reasonable persons estimation.
    The KKK believe God is on their side and use scripture to justify their actions. Here’s an example from their own offical document.
    “The Federal Government promotes the destruction of our race through its many programs. They require that business’ hire based on race rather than qualifications, they call this Affirmative Action. The Government supports mass Non-White integration. When the hordes of Third Worlders that enter our country can not work, they go on Welfare. The Welfare Program allows the White people to pay for the Non-White people of the Country to eat and live, while at the same time causing the White people to lack in necessary funds to have children of their own. Our race, through the Government’s power, now has the lowest birth rate. White Men and Women can not have children because they pay ‘mandatory child support’ in the name of TAXES. Our Government promotes Race-Mixing through integration. Our Children are forced to go to school with every race under the sun. They are being taught that the races are equal. When did race-relations become part of educational curriculum? Our Children are being brainwashed all in the name of ‘Humanity’.
    White people have practiced segregation throughout History. It is conclusive to believe this due to the fact the White Race has flourished throughout History rather than dwindling such as we are during this time of accepted race-mixing. The inequalities of the Races have never been more apparent than that in the Bible. Here are just a few Bible scriptures:
    Exodus 33:16 “So shall we be separated: I and thy people, from all the people that are upon the face of the Earth”
    Leviticus 20:24 ” I am the Lord they God which have separated you from other people”
    Joshua 23:12-13 “If you do in any way go back and cleave unto the remnants of these Nations, even these that remain among you, and shall make marriages with them, and go in unto them and they unto you: Know for a certainty That there shall be snares and traps unto you, and scourges in your side and thornes in your eyes. Until ye perish off from this good land which the Lord your God has given you.”
    The list goes on and on: Deuteronomy 7:3, Proverbs 23:27, Psalm 144:11-12, Hosea 5:6-7. So We, the True Chosen people of God, the True Tribes of Israel, are commanded not to Race mix. We are NOT EQUAL IN THE EYES OF YAHWEH.

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  32. Paul Emery Avatar

    this kind of sums it up. They believe it is Gods commandment not to mix races or obey laws such as Civil Rights or integration of school. they are an anti American organiztion.
    “So We, the True Chosen people of God, the True Tribes of Israel, are commanded not to Race mix. We are NOT EQUAL IN THE EYES OF YAHWEH. ”
    http://www.wckkkk.org/eql.html

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  33. Walt Avatar

    Paul. you REALLY need some professional help. Your Proggyism has Mad Cow syndrome setting in.

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  34. George Rebane Avatar

    PaulE 639pm – Were you a more unstable person, can you imagine the fear you would instill in people if you held that all of your designated rightwing organizations believed what you quote here? But I’m not sure now, how many thousands of such anti-Americans do you really think we have who hold to such a credo? I assume you’re not taking what a handful of loonies believe to make the case that this applies across the board to all of your hated rightwingers (which easily number in the millions).

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  35. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    They still have a right to exist and speak, Punchy. The 1st Amendment does not apply to you anymore than it does them. Hate speech is protected speech. And you can go and speak your mind at them, as long as it’s a peaceful assembly.
    Boy, those Bible verses from the Old Testament song a lot like the Quran. When you think about it, Muhammad has the Old Testament to read when he was around. Abraham and those Leviticus verses about and the thou shall nots lists covering many aspects of life. Eye for an eye, No marrying foreigners and outside the religion, codes of laws and do’s and don’ts, it’s all there. The difference is Christianity and the Judeo-Christian tradition moved on from the Old Law and the Muslims clung to the 6th Century culture and laws.
    Yep, now more than ever I think they may under 2 thousand of them around in the whole nation. A few hundred is looking more like it. Most of the Neo- Nazis and Klansmen still spend the majority of their time and literature bashing the Jews more than blacks…. More than half their words and focus. That has been a universal theme of theirs since before the 30’s,, before Hilter came along. Anyway…..
    “Ironically, the easiest way these days to get people to act like Nazis towards a group is to convince people that group is a bunch of Nazis.” —Frank Fleming

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  36. scenes Avatar
    scenes

    “Paul. you REALLY need some professional help. ”
    I think that he’s just really shitty at accurate risk assessment.
    When you look at organized criminal violence (and behavior generally) in the US, there’s a lot bigger fish to fry. Heck, MS-13 by itself is 2 or 3 times bigger than the KKK (per FBI stats), and I’ll hazard that they are far more likely to kill people. In a world of limited resources, an organization like the DOJ probably builds computer models to see where the resources are best spent. It would be interesting to see what organizations a professional honestly believes are dangerous.
    Maybe it’s just a side effect of living in a well-behaved fairly well-off small town. You believe any old thing that you see on TV.
    Of course, anyone that doesn’t believe you should drop everything and go after Paul’s preferred threats is probably a member of them.

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  37. fish Avatar
    fish

    Posted by: scenes | 31 August 2018 at 07:23 PM
    I’m sure dugsKKKi could hook him up with some tinfoil clad adult diapers!

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  38. Paul Emery Avatar

    there are Thousands of KKK Bill by everyone’s estimate other than yours. Also there are many other White Nationalist organizations with who knows how many members.
    One thing for sure David Duke is a big Trump fan sohe’s very pleased with the turn of events.
    “I’ve said everything that Donald Trump is saying and more,” Duke told The Daily Beast. “I think Trump is riding a wave of anti-establishment feeling that I’ve been nurturing for 25 years.”

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  39. Don Bessee Avatar
    Don Bessee

    David Duke!?! That nobody. You are a lot like David Duke, talks crap, thinks you know everything, no one who matters listens to you. Are there more or less green libertarians than klukers? YES OR NO! YES OR NO! YES OR NO! Ok now go stomp your feet and hold your breath.
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  40. Paul Emery Avatar

    Just mentioned about David Duke support of Trump to illustrate that the KKK types think Trump is just fine.

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  41. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    There may be 1,000’s Punchy, but I see them as pockets of small cults, like that Westboro Baptist Church that goes out and protests dead soldiers at funerals, considering the quotes you pasted above. Actually, Westboro is basically one family and a handful of followers, but I digress.
    Jeff Sessions broke the back of the KKK in Alabama. Handled the appeals and got the first execution of a white critzen for killing a black citizen since 1913 in Alabama. Got a 7 million dollar civil suit against them as well, which bankrupted the KKK in Alabama. The point is if it took just one execution and a 7 mil judgement against the Klan in Alabama to crush them into dust, so how big could they have been? Probably 200-400 active Klan in Alabama at the time.
    Guess we will never have an accurate number. The one spot I have noticed as a group of last graspers is Tennessee. Not from reading any articles about Tennessee, but by reading arrest records of those at “marches” and man on the street quotes seen to point to TN as a pocket, as well as Ohio and parts of Kentucky in the South.
    NYC had a huge presence back in the day, so big that they marched by the thousands down NYC streets leading Democrat Party Rallies carrying their flags and wearing their hoods. In fact, they were the Democrat rallies, Woodrow Wilson era.
    Turn the page and it’s been awhile since a Democrat Governor’s stood on the steps of schools in Alabama, Mississippi, and Arkansas blocking segregation of schools. IKE had his civil rights bills in the 50’s, but the Democrats were the segregations (and the KKK) back then and fought him tooth and nail. The Republicans were against forced integration on Constitutional grounds and the Dems said they opposed integration on Constitutional grounds but in reality used that as an excuse to hide behind and were truly the real true blue avid segregationists.
    Let’s jump to ahead. . All my life I would, on occasion, step into a phone booth or bathroom and somebody left a trac or little booklet. It was straight Jew bashing stuff…the Jews own all the banks, control the country, killed Jesus, owned Hollywood (still do, lol)…3% of the population secretly runs our country. Most of the KKK stuff like you pasted was more anti-Semitic and not isolely focused on the American Negro. Not to say that there wasn’t a share of inferior race stuff in the literature. I saw and heard that kind of stuff and even little ole ladies from across the Pond blurting out Jew bashing stuff out of the blue. And the N word, always spelled with a lower case ‘n’. And, yes, Wetback bashing, along with the WOPS and spics…
    I am trying to think of the year. Call it 1985. I was working on a job in Southern Louisiana, about 80 miles southwest of New Orleans. Flush with cash, nice hotel digs, the people were so hospitable and polite…all people, every last one of them, including the black folk….rural black folk with no urban attitude. Anyway, I was bored one day and decided to hire a cab to show me the area only locals would know. Back roads. Black cabbie picked me up and I told him to just drive around, show me the area, let’s go for hours. We talked and talked about his story, my story, what life was like on the bayou. I saw a big wooden cafe ahead and said I would buy him lunch and a beer. He said he can’t go in there, he will wait outside. The place was called the Kountry Klub Kitchen and served good local cajun cheap food judging by the specials in the window. “Come on”, I said to the cabbie, “I am buying.” He just pointed to the roof of the rustic looking restaurant and there were 3 big letters on it: KKK….kountry klub kitchen, dud. Yeah, it’s still existed.
    Turn the final page to today. Ok, that Nazi house in Nevada City 20 years ago…seen another one? Seen three? That HIlter birthday party, say 10 years ago, are the folks still there? If you heard the N word three years ago, have you heard it this year? We gotta keep up with the times and not see things as they were 20 or 10 or 5 years ago. Or 3 years ago. Things have got better in that sense. I don’t come across the hate tracs left in places like bathrooms in diners or sitting on top of newspaper racks, anymore. It’s been years. Over time, it’s getting less and less. That’s my point, despite you getting triggered by the Deport Berkeley Traitor sign. It’s a one -off. Now, I don’t care for the urban puke “gang hand sign gangsta punk crap, be they Hispanic or black or skinheads or…they are punks. Rural blacks, Mexicans, immigrants, foreigners, what have you are different. Salt of the earth. I have no use for those who run the hoods and think…well…..they think like too many rats in a cage think.
    BTW, the SPLC labeled David Horowitz as the “Godfather of anti-Muslim” rhetoric stuff. Nothing could be further than the truth. Horowitz, you, me Crabbman will call out those who practice discrimination. Just about everybody from our era grew up being taught and believing that discrimination is wrong. It’s still wrong. That hasn’t changed. What has changed is Obama’s Homeland Security lady calling veterans, Evangelical Christians, white rural males, Tea Party types, gun owners…as potential domestic terrorists..and the SPLC led that charge. What has changed is there are favored groups that have been told or led to believe they are above criticism as they themselves spit out hate and intolerance…and those who call them out on it like Howowitz are the haters. Bull pucky. It would not put all my eggs in the Southern Poverty Law Center’s list of bad juju. They, like too many other institutions, have become politicalized and weaponized.p, IMHO.

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