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[OK boys and girls, it's time to do exercises that "help our mental health the most" – and heaven knows we need a lot of help there these days.  I won't give away the punchline, but you can read all about it here.  gjr] 

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197 responses to “Sandbox – 20aug18”

  1. fish Avatar
    fish

    Posted by: Paul Emery | 20 August 2018 at 04:55 PM
    This collection of demented weirdos you have accumulated on your blog is amazing.

    ….and yet here you are…..nearly every day!
    It’s okay Punch…..I won’t blow your gig….if anybody asks I’ll make sure they know that you are a completely conventional democrat thinker.

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  2. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    Think about it. Trump’s lawyers are not preparing for defending against any obstruction of justice….which became the new mantra from the the Unhinged Leftinistas with underdeveloped frontal lobes as soon as they dropped the Russian Collusion story.
    Meuller has interviewed hundreds of witnesses, scores of people in the White House, and poured over a million pages given to the Meuller freely by the White House. The Meuller team knows more about the Trump Campaign and everything that went on during and after the campaign than any campaign manager or individual of group of staff could ever know. It’s humanly impossible. Meuller has every e-mail, everything from the campaign. Yet, through all this, there has not been one leak, not one sentence uttered, not one charge that even hints of criminal activity dealing with the Trump Campaign colluding or conspiring with Russia. Trump did not need any reason to fire Comey and Rosenstein wrote up the reasons to fire the corrupt sleazebag.Maybe Trump fired Comey because of all the pressure growing from the left to do so.
    So, it’s down to a perjury trap or nuthin’.
    While all the experts are saying Trump’s lawyers are doing it wrong or not helping Trump, they are thinking like defense lawyers. Trump has given Meuller’s team all documents requested. They have made overtures that appear they are willing to let Trump meet with Meuller. They have set conditions and parameters of such a meeting, topics to be discussed, and even timetables. Before SCOTUS, Trump”s team can argue successfully that Trump has cooperated with the Special Council, made reasonable accommodations, provided his staff and lawyers to provide everything that the Meuller team needs to know. Meuller does not need to meet with the President. Meuller has everything he needs….except a perjury trap. Everything. Think SCOTUS, not defense against silly obstruction of justice charges. By definition, Trump cannot obstruct himself, being head of Justice.
    Even Comey’s testimony before Congress about the memo’s he wrote was full of nice words insinuating Collusion with the Russians, obstruction of justice, and bad behavior by Trump, yet those very same Comey memos contained zero what he was yapping about before the Congressional hearing, lol.
    Yeah, the pressure grows for Trump to meet with Meuller. Pressure from whom? The media? Meuller’s team is desperately trying not to be left empty handed, buff
    naked in the wind and out in the cold.
    Heck, they even had FBI informant Stefen Halpin approach George Papadopoulos, Carter Page, and others trying them to get to say something, anything, that will make their case.
    Papadopoulos was also approached during the campaign by Stefan Halper, a former University of Cambridge professor who spied on the Trump campaign as an FBI informant.
    Halper flew Papadopoulos to London in September 2016 and paid him a $3,000 honorarium to write a policy paper about Mediterranean energy issues. Papadopoulos has told associates that Halper asked him during one conversation if he knew anything about Russian hacking of Democrats’ emails.
    Unbeknownst to Papadopoulos, Halper had also been in contact with Carter Page, another Trump campaign adviser. Halper and Page remained in contact through September 2017.
    Now Meuller is whinning before the court that they did not get anything from Papadopoulos, even though he cooperated. Not very professional. Where’s the beef?

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  3. Don Bessee Avatar
    Don Bessee

    No wonder they produce a bunch of ignorant socialist snowflakes –
    https://www.breitbart.com/tech/2018/08/20/study-more-ecosexual-professors-are-having-sex-with-trees/
    😉

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  4. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    Ok, all ye who are a collection of demented weirdos. Ready to get your blood to boil?
    Under the heading of Why bother to have elections? If a Dem President makes a lawless law the law of the land for ever, why bother to even vote for lawmakers to go to Washington?
    https://www.conservativereview.com/news/obamas-third-term-13-times-courts-said-trump-must-continue-obamas-lawless-policies/

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  5. George Rebane Avatar

    “… right to lie under oath.” I was not aware of any such ‘right’. Anyone inviting me into such a discussion should understand what I believe to be a ‘right’, or offer a contending definition that is just as operational as mine. Otherwise we wind up blathering with neither or none of the parties knowing what the other is talking about. My definition is here –
    http://rebaneruminations.typepad.com/rebanes_ruminations/2010/03/rights-and-privileges.html
    Now I’m ready for anyone else’s contribution, and then we can even talk about something logically perverse ad the right to lie under oath. (Then why take the oath?)

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  6. Walt Avatar

    Pigglet just threatened the wrong Progressive.
    https://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2018/08/20/david-hogg-old-nancy-pelosi-move-let-us-take-control/
    You think the Queen of the DEMNed is going to take that crap from a snot nosed kid?
    Nan is heating the Hogg scalding pot as sure as the Sun is going down.

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  7. fish Avatar
    fish

    From the always charming Instapundit……

    IT’S A BEAUTIFUL THING, WINSTON, THE DESTRUCTION OF WORDS: Healthline says, using the medical term ‘vagina’ is not gender-inclusive language, uses ‘front hole’ instead.
    I’m looking forward to the next presentation of The Front Hole Monologues.

    http://caldronpool.com/healthline-says-using-the-medical-term-vagina-is-not-gender-inclusive-language-uses-front-hole-instead/

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  8. Todd Juvinall Avatar
    Todd Juvinall

    I heard that Netflix canceled that mealy mouthed woman “comedian” that did the dinner for the “journalists. Is it true?

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  9. fish Avatar
    fish

    Posted by: Todd Juvinall | 20 August 2018 at 07:46 PM
    That is correct! Somebody funnier than me said about her show……Aborted in the first trimester!

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  10. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    Todd. Yes. Micheal Wolf or something. He broke her too.
    Brennan should not be anywhere classified infor. This short video ain’t that’s not even the half of it. Going after Senate Intel Committee staffer’s computers, spying on Dems that googled “Torture” during the Iraq torturegate, lying about it, lying to Congress saying he does who paid for the Dossier, lying to Congress saying he did not know about the Dossier at all (The CIA Chief not knowing or hearing anything about the Dossier?), leaker, leaker, lying leaker, and unhinged too boot, IHMO
    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Tnh5tdofwF4

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  11. Paul Emery Avatar

    George
    You have implied that the Presidency is above the law and can only be prosecuted after impeachment. That’s what our proposed new Supreme Court Justice believes. That process would give him the right to lie under oath unless impeached.

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  12. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    Two things we have not mentioned, so I will in passing.
    1). Weinstein accuser Asia Aregento paid $370,000 to a 17 year old boy in CA after he accused her of sexual assault. Hush money. Gave the minor alcohol and did the nasty thing to the child. Age of consent in CA is 18 years old, is it not? Anyway, besides the oblivious irony of Asia being one of the most vocal accusers of Weinstein, here is another irony: they met on the film, “The Heart Is Deceitful Above All Things.”
    ) The Devil Worshippers putting up their statue on the Capitol grounds:
    https://m.facebook.com/RowdyConservatives/photos/a.217983685002343/1414360682031298/?type=3&source=48

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  13. Paul Emery Avatar

    Documentation for my 8:17:
    argued Kavanaugh in the law-review article. He then asserted that “the indictment and trial of a sitting President, moreover, would cripple the federal government, rendering it unable to function with credibility in either the international or domestic arenas. Such an outcome would ill serve the public interest, especially in times of financial or national security crisis.”
    https://www.thenation.com/article/brett-kavanaugh-argued-sitting-president-law/

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  14. Gregory Avatar
    Gregory

    Punchy 817pm
    “You have implied that the Presidency is above the law and can only be prosecuted after impeachment. That’s what our proposed new Supreme Court Justice believes. That process would give him the right to lie under oath unless impeached.”
    No Punch, you misunderstand… the President is the head of the Executive Branch of the Federal Government which includes the Justice Department, all the Federal District Attorneys. BECAUSE of this, the Pres is not ABOVE the law, but it cannot be the Justice Department that does the investigation, the judging and the sentencing. THAT’S the duty of the House and the Senate.
    Really, Punch, your TDS is blinding you.

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  15. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    Oh Dr.Rebane, Dr Rebane! George. Yes or no?
    Dr. Rebane, Trump ain’t going under oath. Period. Ball is in Meuller’s court. He has to subpoena Trump and SCOTOS here we come. So, Meuller will dance around with Rudy and counsel to Trump waiting for the carpet bombing from the press and “experts”, but Meuller is going to have to fish or cut bait. Meuller does not want to lay a subpoena on Trump cause he knows he will lose. This ain’t a civil issue.
    Also, and quite importantly, the Special Counsel has to abide by the Justice Department’s standards, procedures, guidelines, and practices, per the Special Counsel statute. That includes these two memorandums from the DOJ’s Office of Legal Counsel, which advises the Executive Branch (President) on Constitutional matters. Of course, Meuller has not been following the rules so why should he start now. 🙂

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  16. Paul Emery Avatar

    Correct Gregory. That’s what impeachment is-Indicted by the House, the
    Senate is the jury. Unless that happens, according to George and Kavanaugh , he is above the law.

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  17. Gregory Avatar
    Gregory

    Open your eyes, Paul… he isn’t “above the law”.
    It’s that the law is out of the hands of the President when the President is the subject. It’s in the hands of the Congress. Always has been.
    This is not new.

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  18. L Avatar
    L

    Toes, I’ve heard that among non-primate mates, llamas are best…but which? Andean or Tibetan? One hump or two? Thanks!

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  19. L Avatar
    L

    Paul, learn to recognize a joke and don’t get snookered every time… L

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  20. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    L,
    Alpacas are “wear” it’s at. Hey, I have a buddy to got a call a few days ago to deliver a bunch of sheep to the livestock area of the fairgrounds the last weekend in September. Nothing unusual, expect the order was for no rams, only ewes. Anyway, I told him he best tell the herd to “Beware of Greeks bearing gifts”.
    Two humps if it’s a camel.

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  21. George Rebane Avatar

    re Paul 851pm – I strongly advise no one to take PaulE’s expansions and interpretations of what I have stated as having any connection to the meaning of what I have written. His 851pm is Exhibit A. There the man does not understand the two-step procedure under which a sitting president is brought to justice for a criminal offense. Neither Kavanaugh nor I have claimed the President to be ‘above the law’; there is a practical purpose of governance that requires a sitting president to be first removed from office before being indicted, as would then the rest of us in a court with appropriate jurisdiction. Such nuances are very difficult to grasp for some people, hence the sophomoric simplifications such as ‘he’s above the law’.
    BillT 850pm – Mr Tozer, what do you demand of me with such intensity?

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  22. Paul Emery Avatar

    Correct George
    He is above the law that anyone else has to subscribe to unless he’s impeached. Can we agree on that?

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  23. Paul Emery Avatar

    L
    Did I miss a joke? You observation implies that there was something funny said. Seems I missed the humor, show me the punch line.

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  24. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    @9:44 pm
    Oh, I forgot. Nevermind. Oh yeah, the memorandums that the Special Counsel’s Office is bound by statute follow. Come on, Meuller, go ahead and subpoena Trump, pleaseeee! Trump has already announced he is too busy after Sept. 1, 2018. Guess Meuller can indict Trump and leave the files up in the DOJ-National Security Division Office, just like those files on the 13 Russians…..for a date sometime around six years from now.
    Good night, Dr. Rebane.
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    https://m.facebook.com/lastamericapatriots/photos/a.235087906641439/1139406639542890/?type=3&source=48
    https://m.facebook.com/RowdyConservatives/photos/a.217983685002343/1411429445657755/?type=3&source=48

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  25. Gregory Avatar
    Gregory

    Punchy 1001pm
    No, not unless you subscribe to New York City underworld rules… that it ain’t against the law until or unless you get caught. Works for city, county, state, federal and Congressional jurisdictions.
    The only downside is your political wet dream about Trump in chains, being frog-marched out of the White House, ain’t gonna happen. It also appears to the smart money that the “Russia investigation” will come up empty.
    Tell us, Paul… when Mueller was appointed… how many weeks did you think it would take before you were free of Trump, with President Pence in charge or, in your wildest dreams, Hillary proclaimed President by acclimation of the Praetorian Guards?

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  26. fish Avatar
    fish

    Can we agree on that?Can we agree on that?Can we agree on that?Can we agree on that?Can we agree on that?Can we agree on that?Can we agree on that?Can we agree on that?Can we agree on that?Can we agree on that?Can we agree on that?Can we agree on that?Can we agree on that?Can we agree on that?Can we agree on that?

    …….always the car salesman aren’t we Punch?!
    Ask him about the undercoating next.

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  27. Walt Avatar

    Paul and his “above the law” crap again?
    Paul has yet to even say what the crime is.
    Just WHAT crime is Trump accused of Paul?

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  28. fish Avatar
    fish

    Posted by: Walt | 21 August 2018 at 06:16 AM
    WHAT crime is Trump accused of Paul?

    Upsetting Punch and making him fuss like a 13 year old girl.

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  29. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    Just repeating what Trump believes is the nature of the Presidency Walt. No specific crime. He believes he can do whatever he wants with no repercussions except impeachment.
    A quote from his lawyers.
    “It remains our position that the President’s actions here, by virtue of his position as the chief law enforcement officer, could neither constitutionally nor legally constitute obstruction because that would amount to him obstructing himself, and that he could, if he wished, terminate the inquiry, or even exercise his power to pardon if he so desired.”

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  30. fish Avatar
    fish

    “I am a capitalist to my bones,” Warren said recently, in response to the conversation around democratic socialism.
    Much like she is an “Indian” to her bones I’m sure!
    https://theintercept.com/2018/08/21/elizabeth-warren-unveils-radical-anti-corruption-platform/

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  31. fish Avatar
    fish

    Just repeating what Trump believes is the nature of the Presidency Walt.
    I’d be interested to know just how you gleaned this knowledge Punch-E!

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  32. Scott Obermuller Avatar

    from Paul – ” He believes he can do whatever he wants with no repercussions except impeachment.”
    proof?
    Paul quotes Trump’s lawyers concerning the president’s authority as chief law enforcement officer. The quote is only in regards to a specific federal investigation.
    That hardly constitutes a belief in being able to do ‘anything he wants’ with no repercussions.
    Complete fail.
    Sorry Paul, you lose again.

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  33. Todd Juvinall Avatar
    Todd Juvinall

    When there is no there there the Paul Emery’s make up new straw men. Sorry but no one is above the law and Trump knows that better than you apparently Paul Emery.

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  34. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    Todd
    Once again, what does this mean to you? From Trumps lawyers:
    “It remains our position that the President’s actions here, by virtue of his position as the chief law enforcement officer, could neither constitutionally nor legally constitute obstruction because that would amount to him obstructing himself, and that he could, if he wished, terminate the inquiry, or even exercise his power to pardon if he so desired.”

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  35. Todd Juvinall Avatar
    Todd Juvinall

    Paul Emery are you not understanding this very simple statement? I feel sorry that you are so dense you don’t get it. WOW! You must be a graduate of some failed public school.

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  36. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    What does it mean to you Todd? are you unable to explain it?

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  37. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    Looks like Cohen is singing. He’s set to be the John Dean of the Trump Dump
    Former Trump attorney and “fixer” Michael Cohen has reportedly entered into a plea agreement with federal prosecutors in Manhattan.
    ABC News first broke news of the agreement on Tuesday afternoon, although both NBC News and CNN both reported earlier in the day that such an agreement was in the works.

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  38. fish Avatar
    fish

    Posted by: Paul Emery | 21 August 2018 at 10:59 AM
    What does it mean to you Todd? are you unable to explain it?

    YES OR NO Todd…..yes or no!

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  39. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    Trump down by 7 in Rasmussen, Todd’s favorite poll. Fell 8 points in one week!!!
    https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/other/president_trump_job_approval-6179.html

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  40. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    Shadow banning and censoring makes more since now. Remember during Inauguration Weekend when the Dem big donors and George Soros funded groups led by David Brock met together in FL to plot the strategy to overthrow Trump? FB and social media was part of the plan.
    “The memo contains plans for defeating Trump through impeachment, expanding Media Matters’ mission to combat “government misinformation,” ensuring Democratic control of the Senate in the 2018 midterm elections, filing lawsuits against the Trump administration, monetizing political advocacy, using a “digital attacker” to delegitimize Trump’s presidency and damage Republicans, and partnering with Facebook to combat “fake news.”
    https://freebeacon.com/politics/david-brock-memo-attack-trump/
    For those who wish not to download Democracy Matters: A Stragetic Plan for Action, here is a screen shot followed by a link that contains a summary:
    A) Screenshot
    https://i2.wp.com/www.powerlineblog.com/ed-assets/2017/08/Screen-Shot-2017-08-08-at-9.34.23-AM.png
    B) Summary:
    https://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2017/08/the-democrats-plan-to-destroy-trump.php

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  41. Paul Emery Avatar

    Not yes or no fish it’s “What does it mean to you Todd? “

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  42. fish Avatar
    fish

    Posted by: Paul Emery | 21 August 2018 at 11:36 AM
    Are you trying to say that this untested area of constitutional law should mean something to Todd?

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  43. Paul Emery Avatar

    Probably doesn’t Fish. Just thought I’d ask if he has an opinion on the matter. Todd is pretty much a genetic Republican and never varies from the party line.

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  44. Gregory Avatar
    Gregory

    Punchy 1105am
    Breathe! You’re turning blue. Relax. Breathe again. Good.
    http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/trump_administration/trump_approval_index_history
    Go back another week or two and you get exactly what Trump’s approval is today. If Trump’s approval goes from 50% to 46%, that’s a 4% drop, not an 8% drop.
    Punchy 1059am
    So, Paul… how does a plea deal with the lower level persecutor (he was handed off when Mueller decided he didn’t have anything Mueller needed) help Muller’s task (as you understand it) of throwing Trump out of office?

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