[Here is the latest on the real 2016 collusion AND conspiracy with foreigners (British and Russians) that was designed, bought, and paid for by Hillary and the DNC to derail the Trump campaign. Since there is no evidence of the obverse, why are not Hillary and the DNC being investigated? gjr]

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227 responses to “Sandbox – 8aug18”
fish 1219pm
Yes, the bottomless pork barrel is VERY popular, and any Presidential candidate who seriously attacks the role of the Federal government handing out cash to farmers will have a rough time in early primaries, generally in the farm belt.
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,,,orange diarrhea of the mouth lie number,,,who knows???
https://www.cbsnews.com/amp/news/fact-check-donald-trump-claims-california-wildfires-inaccurate-2018-08-06/
BTW trumpski aren’t you in charge of the national forests??? IDIOT!!!
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Posted by: ’’’M’’’ | 10 August 2018 at 12:52 PM
BTW trumpski aren’t you in charge of the national forests??? IDIOT!!!
Sounds like somebody’s cranky……maybe needs a “fresh” one.
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PaulE 1024am – The most interesting thing about your comments is how you connect the dots. How on earth did you conclude that as a MOC I would support your introducing or voting for a NEW subsidy bill?? Do you even recall what my position has been on subsidies for the last 12 years in these pages? Memory is such a precious facility, we don’t really appreciate it until it begins to decline.
M 857am – My, my, my. Here in the foothills of the Sierra Nevada we have cracked the case on Trump. Meanwhile in DC special prosecutor Mueller is still stumbling around with his 17 dwarfs trying to find something that would let him exit with honor. Perhaps you could do the man a favor and establish immediate communications with him so that he can indict and declare victory.
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Well Trump is supporting a new subsidy for farmers to compensate for their losses due to his imposed tariffs-12 billion I recall. This was in June I believe. I have yet to sense a critical response from you so I assume you support NEW subsidies as long as they are proposed by a Republican administration. Would you respond the same way it these were Obama’s proposals?
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3:46 meant for George as a response to his 2:53
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Posted by: Paul Emery | 10 August 2018 at 03:46 PM
I have yet to sense a critical response from you so I assume you support NEW subsidies as long as they are proposed by a Republican administration.
….who are you……Karnak?
https://www.google.com/url?sa=i&source=web&cd=&ved=2ahUKEwiDnZye0OPcAhXrrVQKHfD3D1gQjhx6BAgBEAI&url=https%3A%2F%2Fen.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2FCarnac_the_Magnificent&psig=AOvVaw2hYYyrEbK1saaBOHtlYH-O&ust=1534029697681653
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Paul Emery is like most Americans that are spoiled and get what they want instantly. Trump is looking way down the road. If he subsidized 20 billion now to get 500 billion in trade for us later I think that would be called pretty smart.
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Paul is back to throwing rocks in his glass house.
good show old dude… Good show.
So when do you publish your bitch that KVMR has yet to loose theirs.
I know,, I know. “That’s different”
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And you believe him right Todd.
What are you possibly trying to say Walt whe n you wrote this
“So when do you publish your bitch that KVMR has yet to loose theirs.”
Please translate.
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Pretty self explanatory Paul.
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PaulE 346pm – I already made clear my opposition to existing subsidies which have become a commons. Unless all recipients refuse them concurrently, the early one(s) to give up their subsidies will get killed in the market. And I am also against the institution of new subsidies, especially if needed to support trade wars (Ref the Great Depression and see how that worked out). But we’ve circled this barn many times already. Please try to recall what I have written on the topic, or simply do a search of RR for such info (if you’re too busy/lazy to do that, I’m equally busy/lazy to so respond). However, I would most welcome your discovery and revelation of any and all of my inconsistencies – those I must explain.
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on to the new menace from Trump – from the Boston Globe:
‘Pritchard said she hoped the editorials would make an impression on Americans.
“I hope it would educate readers to realize that an attack on the First Amendment is unacceptable,” she said. “We are a free and independent press, it is one of the most sacred principles enshrined in the Constitution”.’
Uh – what ‘attack’? Was Pritchard visited by the Stasi? Is she able to attack Trump whenever and however she feels fit? Of course she is.
Has the govt threatened her or her newspaper? No, of course not. So, who has been muzzled from the popular internet outlets? Anyone on the left?
Nope. All on the right.
I would suggest Ms Pritchard go to China and pull this childish shit.
Then she’ll find out about her 1st A rights being abridged.
Another whiny cry-baby on the left that believes she has the right to write anything she wants and if some one criticises it – waaaaah!
https://www.yahoo.com/news/newspaper-calls-war-words-against-193505874.html
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The biggest turd in the toilet –
Well, not really. For that, you need a judge to impose those consequences.
The very forgiving judge I mentioned is Superior Court Judge Christopher Hite, who previously worked as an attorney in Public Defender Jeff Adachi’s office.
Hite is perhaps best known for flushing all 64,713 outstanding warrants issued in quality-of-life cases from January 2011 through October 2015, giving police no authority to detain people who skipped court appearances and rendering the citations meaningless. He did so as part of a court-wide consensus that fining poor people who can’t afford to pay is pointless.
Then-Mayor Ed Lee was irate at the decision, saying the point of citations isn’t to collect money from poor people, but as leverage to compel them to accept treatment, shelter and other services.
At the time, Lee said through a spokeswoman the judges were not “meeting the responsibilities voters elected them to. When one branch of government fails — be it executive, legislative or judicial — we all fail.”
https://www.sfgate.com/bayarea/heatherknight/article/Lenient-court-system-weakens-city-s-attempts-to-13145711.php?t=5979af55be
😉
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from Paul – ” I have yet to sense a critical response from you so I assume you support NEW subsidies as long as they are proposed by a Republican administration.”
Gee, Paul – all sorts of bad stuff has gone on in the last 10 years, including child molestation, rape and many, many, other bad, bad things.
Since I have yet to ‘sense’ a critical response from you, we can all assume you support this sort of thing.
Right, Paul?
Yes or no, Paul
Yes or no, Paul
ad infinitum.
Maybe Paul can find a bumper sticker out on Spring Street to help him with a reply.
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Another one bites the dust.
https://www.breitbart.com/tech/2018/08/10/twitter-bans-conservative-commentator-gavin-mcinnes/
Slowly, the gloves come off.
Like Trump or not, imagine a world where communications monopolies are in bed with a President. HillaryGoogleTwitterFacebookFBI is not such a stretch of the imagination.
I should look back and see who was first to see the possibilities in combining political beliefs and the tendency towards centralization on the web. Maybe Minitrue is a natural outgrowth of technology over time.
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@ 8:47
“Everywhere one looks, high-profile media figures are being cut off from their audiences without warning, either for discussing forbidden topics or embracing forbidden political positions.”
Very troubling trend. Actually, not a trend, it’s now established practices. Since when is discussing uncomfortable topics a bad thing? Since when did discussing sensitive topics become forbidden? Since when is it ok to shut down (silence) someone because one does not like the words coming out another’s mouth or pen? What FB, You Tube, Twitter (to a lesser degee) and other social media are sayings is we don’t want you to even mention certain things…it’s forbidden!
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The subtext of the headline reads, “No, the Second Amendment does not protect them.”
Wrong. The 2nd Amendment does indeed protect them, whether you hate them or not, no matter how dispiciable one may consider them. The Progressives, like the good Leftinista Satalinists they are, want to temporary suspend the 2nd Amendment. Well, why make it easier and just suspend the 1st Amendment’s right to peacefully assemble and cancel the rally?
What the liberals are really saying is that we don’t like the words coming out of those people’s mouths so lets suspend their enumerated rights, temporary of course. Odd that they never condemn the words or actions coming out of their side’s mouths, only the other dudes, lol.
In essence, the Left and the Constitution are incapatable.
https://thinkprogress.org/the-completely-bonkers-reason-white-supremacists-are-allowed-to-rally-with-guns-in-charlottesville-70980f01ebe8/
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Scenes,,,’’’HillaryGoogleTwitterFacebookFBI,,,otherwise known as Qanon,,, is not such a stretch of the imagination’’’
,,,uh yeah Scenes,,,it is
Here are some of your like minded ilk being interviewed,,,
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=An2XYJjfAKY&feature=youtu.be
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RE Reband 10 August 2018 at 06:43 PM
George
Here’s a direct quote from you applauding Trumps imposition of tariffs which was the direct cause for 13 Billion in new subsidies. You can’t support one without supporting the other. No criticism of tariffs here. You close your critique with “things are looking up”
“And now we understand why President Trump had to use that ridiculous ‘national defense’ ploy to announce his tariffs – that was the only legal lever that he had to get things moving quickly without getting into a congressional quagmire of hearings, etc before the midterm election. He played poker with a poker face, and our allies correctly painted him serious and came to the table. They too realized that continuing this ridiculous trade game three generations after the end of the war was a hell of way to run a railroad. Much more to be done. More accomplishments to take to the bank. But from my perch, things are looking up.”
http://rebaneruminations.typepad.com/rebanes_ruminations/2018/07/trumps-trade-wars-triumphant.html
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The media is the enemy of the people? No, the Democrats are the enemy of the Constitution, truth, Justice, and the American Way.
https://m.facebook.com/RowdyConservatives/photos/a.217983685002343.55586.217926015008110/1401098676690832/?type=3&source=48
https://m.facebook.com/RowdyConservatives/photos/a.217983685002343.55586.217926015008110/1402272343240132/?type=3&source=48
https://m.facebook.com/RowdyConservatives/photos/a.217983685002343.55586.217926015008110/1402344256566274/?type=3&source=48
https://m.facebook.com/RowdyConservatives/photos/a.217983685002343.55586.217926015008110/1402343823232984/?type=3&source=48
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Posted by: ’’’M’’’ | 11 August 2018 at 10:17 AM
Dugski you’re an ass…….QANON told me to say that.
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Wow, one day a run of the mill po’ ol’ fakenewsman and now a macro-economist @ 1105. 😉
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PaulE 1105am – Not sure you understood my cited post. I made no statement in naked support of tariffs, but only noted that tariffs imposed for (or in the pretense of) national security was the only legal option Trump had to get things off the SOSO trading dime. And to the extent that we are beginning to have substantive talks on a new trading order with our trading partners (e.g. with EU’s president Juncker), to that extent things continue to look up. If all such approaches fail – like bringing Turkey, China, Canada, Mexico, Japan, … to some sort of parity – then this approach or its execution was clearly not a solution. As I said before, I would have preferred Trump start with one-on-one talks that may or not have involved additional tariffs or their removal altogether. I hope this doesn’t spoil your gotcha, but I did appreciate the call for clarification.
And “you can’t support one (tariffs) without supporting the other (subsidies)”. Oh yes I can, even with my qualified support of the use of tariffs as expanded above.
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Like most leftwing elitists, the Young Democratic Socialists of America are counting that their fellow youngsters are double dummies when it comes to understanding socialism. The YDSA cites that they are for doing socialism right like in Denmark, Sweden, Norway, …, not wrong like in Venezuela and Cuba (actually communistic). But the Nordic countries cited aren’t socialist in the YDSA-promoted sense, and their geo-political environment is markedly different than that of a world hegemon like the USA. But these little details, among the many others, need not bother the little heads that they are in the process of turning.
https://www.dailysignal.com/2018/08/10/democratic-socialism/
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George, here is my summary of our discussion:
George while you are opposed to tariffs in principal you support them in this situation which is a pragmatic compromise of your core values. Using the same pragmatism do you also support he 13 Billion is farm subsidies to mitigate the losses to farmers and the likely addition of such subsidies to our national debt due to the budget increase needed to pay those subsidies?
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‘The subtext of the headline reads, “No, the Second Amendment does not protect them.”’
As I understand it, it’s all the difference between whether the social media monopolies are considered a platform or as some form of media curator like a newspaper.
Obviously, they want the best of both worlds. Violating copyright law and running provocative videos/tweets is what draws the traffic, but given the politics of the employees (and to some extent the screeching liberals out in the world), it’s tempting to play censor. The moment they are held responsible for the material on their sites, they are screwed financially.
Hey, it’s early days and we are still working this out. A publicly subsidized backbone was put in, web ‘broadcasters’ filled up their bins by taking all authors, they build a near-monopoly in their corner, and then they can cut off vile ‘hate’ speech (ie. anything they don’t like) at the knees. It’s a beautiful thing.
I hope what happens is that the response is to build distributed equivalents to those sites, rather than balkanization (of course, that didn’t help Gab) or turning them into utilities.
It’s all just war by another means and we’re in the early stages. The portmanteau ‘lawfare’ comes to mind.
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“Wow, one day a run of the mill po’ ol’ fakenewsman and now a macro-economist @ 1105. ;-)”
Well, I don’t doubt that he’d be four-square for tariffs if a different person did it.
I honestly don’t know how this’ll all turn out. It’s refreshing to see a President who appears to have US national interest in mind, and I can see the point of a bit of economic warfare to level the playing field, but sometimes you end up in a place you never intended.
But enough of that. Obviously we need to go to war with Russia and to allow the Chinese to run roughshod over trade.
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Paul. Still waiting for your public statement to end your own “bread and butter” subsidy.
I won’t hold my breath. Your own job depends on it showing up in the mail.(most likely) We know. The radio wave welfare check is different.
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Walt
Still waiting for your information about my car being a guzzler. do you know what kind of car I drive? What is the make and model of my car. A simple quote or link will do.
I suggest you contact station management about any questions concerning federal grants. 265 9073
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PaulE 1217pm – No, I have yet to see any addition to existing subsidies that I support. That includes Trump’s $13B bandaid to the agriculture that his tariffs trampled. That’s why I would have preferred focused one-on-one trade talks to re-establish trade parities. It was Trump’s call that such talks would not have gotten the movement he sought in the existing world trade order. See also my 643pm.
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Walt, Punchy is playing fast and loose with his “car”. Ask him about his two vans.
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LOL!!! “contact management”. You cowardly old koot.
Thanks Paul for shining daylight on your own double standard.
“It’s OK for ME but not for THEE”.
Are you saying you don’t drive that old van anymore? Then again your not known for telling the truth around here. ( your last defense given was “it passed the smog test”)
So if you say you never had one, were you lying then,, or are you lying now?
Did you finally find a religion that doesn’t have a problem with spewing BS? Tell us “DREWBUDE”(remember that one?)
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Hi Bill,, Ya,, He forgets those “conversions” from arguments past.
Hey Paul! I bet your forgot you told us your of Greek decent too.
I have met plenty in my travels. And you live up to the rest of them. Not really big on telling the truth.(or owning up to it.)
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Scenes @ 12:21
Yes, it’s early and we are still working it out. As of now, the Big Three techies have not been classified as “publishers”. Again, as for now, the squeaky wheel (TAD) gets the grease.
Whether or not FB, Goggle, You Tube, or Twitter should be classified as publishers is an open question. Might afford them more First Amendment protections on one hand and more liability for the contents on its cites on the other hand. Hmmm. If so, then Dr. Rebane is a publisher and is accountable if I say that four letter word ‘hate’. Dr. Rebane may not be responsible for me saying the banned word ‘hate’, but he could be accountable. Maybe I am a publisher. Love the title, as if I need any more titles or a pat on the back. Enough already.
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I told some NC snowflake who attacked me on the Union to go “self flagellate” and he cried I was namecalling him. You cannot make this stuff up.
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My goodness, they are making a martyr out of Alex Jones. Driving traffic to his cite. moi included. They certainly go after the “big fish” like Jones, lol. . Add the Breitbart and Drudge Report to the targeted list. Yep, they have been going after the Drudge Report and want that blocked too. Off with their heads.
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FB gave Alex Jones the death penalty for hate speech and conspiracy theories, yet not some other cites for truly vile hate speech (unlike Jones) and, of course, conspiracy theories. Is it because Alex Jones is white or is it because he is white?
“The Nation of Islam leader today is the same man he has been for more than a half-century — a raging anti-Semite, homophobe, and misogynist who never misses an opportunity to lob his ugly rhetoric.
During his “Saviours’ Day” speech in Chicago last month, Farrakhan bellowed about the “Jewish-controlled media” and government. He claimed Jews are promoting “degenerate behavior in Hollywood, turning men into women and women into men.” He even floated a conspiracy that Jews and government officials have concocted a strain of marijuana to emasculate black men. “God did not create man to lay with man,” he said. “But you are being chemically programmed against your nature, you don’t know it.”
All of this sounds like the kind of stuff someone comes up with after smoking too much weed.”
https://www.bostonglobe.com/opinion/2018/03/13/siding-with-louis-farrakhan-would-misstep-black-america-march-ahead/Puf22IO6JXpQa73urqRQXO/story.html
Nation of Islam leader Louis Farrakhan’s official Facebook page is rife with anti-Semitic conspiracy theories and other hateful speech, which have not been censored by Facebook content monitors, a Daily Caller News Foundation review of the page reveals.
Videos posted to Farrakhan’s Facebook page show the Nation of Islam leader claiming that Jews are secretly controlling government agencies to suppress black Americans and blaming Jews for “weaponizing” marijuana with “chemicals” to “feminize” black men.
Neither of those videos violate Facebook’s rules prohibiting hate speech, a Facebook spokeswoman told The Daily Caller News Foundation in a phone interview Tuesday.
Another video that showed Farrakhan warning against interracial marriage — which he blames on “the enemy” in Hollywood — to keep the black race “from being any further mongrelized,” was originally ruled not to violate hate speech rules, according to the Facebook spokeswoman.
After this article was published, the spokeswoman called back and said that a closer review by the company’s content monitors determined Farrakhan’s use of the word “mongrelized” did violate Facebook’s rules, and that the video would be deleted.
(Hmmm. mongrelized is a now banned. Video taken down by FB, but not the site. No 86’ed for life)
https://michaelsavage.com/?p=22312
. The Storm Trooper banned, not really news. Must be all those conspiracy theories blaming the Jews and hate speech.
Neo-Nazi website Daily Stormer, which has celebrated criminal activity such as pedophilia and domestic violence in recent months, doesn’t want its white, young, male followers toking up—because Jews are behind the burgeoning legal marijuana industry, according to a post on the website on Thursday.
https://www.newsweek.com/neo-nazis-are-feeling-paranoid-jews-control-legal-marijuana-industry-771539
Well, I see the similiarities between the Neo-Nazis and Minister Farrakhan, yet Alex Jones is banned for crazy conspiracy theories. He must be a lame Neo-Nazi wack job….or said a kind word about Trump….
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I see “Crickets” Emery can’t deal with discussing his own “employer’s” Subsidy.(The one that seems to be JUST FINE)
No Paul, you can’t have it both ways. Ya’ know what? How come you haven’t complained about Tesla’s huge subsidy? Now he claims to have the ability to go private? How many billions in tax money have they burned through?
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Green subsidies good. Farm subsidies bad. Grants to starving artists good. Anything that La Mafia or Trump does is bad.
Punchy needs to take a bigger view of things. No pain, no gain. Short term pain for long term gain. The Europe folk said they will take in more of our soybeans. That soon? Good news. The Canadians will come around after the pain wipes the smirk off of Justin’s mug for good. Mexico is eager to get ‘er done which is surprising because. these things take time. Lots of positioning, saber rattling, politiciing is way the process usually takes. But Trump ain’t no usual kind of guy.
If Trump’s plan for reduced tariffs works, he will be a hero and that 13 billion will look like small potatoes compared to money coming iin and be old news folks will completely forget about. If it fails, he will have hell to pay. Strike that. To those haters riddled with TAD, if Trump’s plan scores, Trump will. Have he’ll to pay. If the plan for is a disaster for our country, then he will have hell to pay and either way, our Popinjay will always talk about those subsidies that lined the pocket of La Malfa with blood money taking out of the mouths of the poor children of NPR listeners. And we won’t even the Trump,hating going on as they alway root for failure and cheer all things that go bad fo America.
Ah, Scenes or Fish is right. This topic is boring two days ago.
No plan is perfect and we won’t get everything we want. The Europeans get to protect their auto industry and the Japanese will protect their rice industry. But tariffs will be closer to equity than ever since WW2 and their will be some hiccups in the short term pain. That Trump is determined, I tell ya. Opps, I meant to say Liar Trump is going to kill us all!
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So Walt is a Greek hater Wow and he confessors on this blog.
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Walt
do you receive any kind of government financial support-pension, health care, vets benefits etc?
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Walt, can you say “watch him pivot”. Someone don’t like the attention put back on him/her, especially when one points out some rather honking big ass glaring duplicity going on. You must not look that way.
Love the pivot. There is a comfort found in the predictability of it all. All is well In the bubble. “I‘m rubber, you’re glue. Everything bounces off me and sticks to you. So there.”
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All liberals are trained just like Paul Emery is showing us. Never answer the question, divert and when cornered. change the subject and lie. Classic!
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Crickets: “do you receive any kind of government financial support-pension, health care, vets benefits etc?”
YEAH WALT, DO YOU RECEIVE ANY GUBMINT MONEY?! THAT’LL GET TO THE HEART OF THE MATTER!
lol.
re: Alex Jones. It’s funny how under their skin he gets. I doubt he violated any TOS, it’s just not his gig to flail on protected groups, unless you count the New World Order /Deep State/etc. as a protected group (the most protected of all no doubt).
That Sargon guy on youtube was weighing in on it. It turns out that he had exactly the same kind of kicking off email letter.
Verdict: yer kicked off
Reason: blank
Warning: we’ll continue to kick you off
It’s probably time to put the hammer on these social media companies, but definitely their weak spot is going to be copyright. I can live with that.
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Yep, the Nevertrumpers are back and in fine form. The whole Conservative bodytic sees, smells, and hears a near and present danger with Zuckieberg Boo Boo and his wacko La La Land fruit loops wife shutting down whomever their side tells them to on any given day. They are doing their part to damage Trump andget him out of America!
Guess they dohave the right to not be offended or have someone feel uncomfortable, being a private sector company. It’s watch and see time and they have been smoked out. Ball is in their court. Apple already has found a nice workaround on their handheld gizmos and are gladly accepting a flow of new faces. Customers make reliable employment. Happy customers even more so.
https://m.facebook.com/PatriotPost/photos/a.82108390913.80726.51560645913/10155816707955914/?type=3&source=48
In other news yesterday……….
https://m.facebook.com/PatriotPost/photos/a.82108390913.80726.51560645913/10155814482220914/?type=3&source=48
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You tell me Paul, What have I said over the years here? Show me.
Am I a VET? Yes or no. “IF” the answer is yes, am I entitled to those benefits? ( It’s not like one can just fill out some GOV. forms and get a check in the mail.. Like subsidy and grant money)
It’s not MY fault you suffer from CRS. (Can’t Remember Shit)
And back your your good ol’ hate standby. Now care to show where that “hate” lies? So pointing out habitual lying and fabrication counts as hate these days?
Lash out all you like. It’s your street creds that suffer.
But just to throw you some cricket bait, I have never taken one dime in welfare. Nor have I bought anything that was heavily subsidized so I could get it for free or on the cheep from some gov. program. ( Like a new fridge,attic insulation, solar panels, duel pain windows etc.) Now how many did you partake in?
It obvious you didn’t turn in the gross polluter when cash for clunkers was the rage. GOOD FOR YOU. I admire that. Nope “O” didn’t get my old 59 Willie’s pickup either.
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Washington, D.C., Braces for White Nationalist Rally
Probably should have held it in Chiraq!
20 Shot Overnight In Chicago: “I’m Scared To Walk To The Corner Store”
http://fortune.com/2018/08/11/unite-the-right-2-rally-dc/
https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-08-11/20-shot-overnight-chicago-im-scared-walk-corner-store
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OMG, I thought you were a dude.
On the record so far, there is no evidence that Kanoute’s color was what precipitated the employee’s call. She herself claims that she was mistaken for a “suspicious black male,” and the transcript of the police call has the employee referring to Kanoute as a man: “He seems to be out of place… . I don’t see anybody in the building at this point and, uh, I don’t know what he’s doing in there, just laying on the couch.”
At Smith, where all undergraduates are women, the sight of what appeared to be an unfamiliar young man sprawled on a couch in a room where men normally aren’t present might well make a staff member uneasy.”
https://patriotpost.us/opinion/57566-at-smith-college-the-racist-incident-that-wasnt
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To say one nationality or race is lying and deceitful is hate Walt. It’s based on a prejudiced judgement.
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Poor Paul. Back to fake justification.
There may be plenty that “tell the truth”. I just haven’t met one yet. NOW.. Read those words CAREFULLY. Did I say “ALL” Greeks? ( Nope) That kinda shoots your accusation full of holes.
Still driving the van? (funny,, you sure side stepped that one all of a sudden.) Still passing gas… I mean SMOG?
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