302 responses to “Sandbox – 29jul18”

1. 

   Don Bessee

   01 August 2018

   Ooooohhhhhh, a target rich environment!
   http://www.foxnews.com/world/2018/08/01/iran-planning-gulf-swarm-drill-involving-100-gun-boats-within-days-us-officials-say.html
   😉

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   Gregory

   01 August 2018

   Sorry, Paulo 321pm, but Cato died in the 3rd or 4th century AD and couldn’t have been quoted regarding current politics here.
   I might have quoted Cato’s Patrick Michaels on a global warming issue, and I voted for David Koch for Vice President (on the ticket with Ed Clark in what, 1980?), and I was a minor member of Cato in the early ’80’s.
   But no, Cato (the institute) hasn’t been a go-to source for me. Note sure who you’re hallucinating, Punch.

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   George Rebane

   02 August 2018

   Speaking of credible sources – Our right-leaning readers continually point out the errors of fact (vs opinions) of cited leftwing sources like Huffpost et al. Sadly, our left-leaners never (seldom?) point out errors of fact from rightwing sources like Breitbart, they just allege such sources to be unreliable even when these sources express only opinions. Another left/right asymmetry.
   Exit question: how come the Left constantly resorts to thuggery, violence, and confrontation when opposing the Right in the public square, but that happens extremely rarely in the obverse?

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4. 

   scenes

   02 August 2018

   from GeorgeR’s link:
   “”Whether it’s conscious or not, I think we look to the president of the United States as a psychological parent,” LaMotte said.”
   You know, I had never thought of that. It makes a lot of sense when you look at the craziness.
   It’s a crude analogy, but Trump is a lot more like a 1950’s parent while Daddy Obama was the ideal metrosexual modern ‘cool’ dad. These people are hating on their mom’s new husband, the strict businessman who’ll take a shot at fixing the plumbing. The new guy is a bastard who isn’t interested in getting high with you or giving you a bunch of presents.

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   Paul Emery

   02 August 2018

   Even Trumps daughter is opposed to his child snatching immigration policy. Trump must be a lonely man.
   “President Donald Trump’s daughter and adviser Ivanka Trump came out Thursday against the family separations that resulted from her father’s zero-tolerance policy for illegal immigration, calling them a “low point” of her White House tenure thus far.
   “That was a low point for me as well,” she said during an interview with Axios. “I feel very strongly about that, and I am very vehemently against family separation and the separation of parents and children.”

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6. 

   Paul Emery

   02 August 2018

   Gregory
   So you’re a Libertarian that doesn’t support the findings of the Cato Institute. Hmmm

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7. 

   Todd Juvinall

   02 August 2018

   Snatching children? Where is that happening? Oh, Guatemala, now I recall.

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   Walt

   02 August 2018

   Let take a good wizz in Paul’s coffee this morning.
   50% Paul!,, 50%!!!!
   http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/current_events/politics/prez_track_aug02
   Your favorite poll. Deal with it.

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9. 

   Bill Tozer

   02 August 2018

   @ 8:08 am
   One would be hard pressed to find one or even two incidents during the entire eight years of the Obama Administration where a person wearing an Obama-Biden tee shirt walked into a coffee shop or any retail outlet was physically assaulted for wearing said clothing. If it happened, one would have to work hard and dig deep to find the incident.
   If I were to ask you to name an incident where a person walking into a retail outlet or just strolling down the street wearing a Trump tee shirt/ MAGA hat was assualted during the Trump Administration, you would ask me which week? Which of the incidents of assault last week would you like me to cite?
   The violence is all coming from the Left.
   “I guess the human noggin’ can stand only so much hate and discontent before it succumbs to a clinical condition. Should TAD sufferers still be allowed to vote? gjr]”
   There was theory going around when I was young lad that watching too much pornography would literally warp one’s brain. Rather than pooh-pooh such a notion from days gone by, I see it may have some merit in view of these present days of the anxiety ridden, fear filled, angry, violent Left with the advent of TAD.

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    Paul Emery

    02 August 2018

    2500 children snatched from their parents by Trumps kidnappers. Where have you been for the last few months? 2,342 taken from their parents by Trumps child snatchers.

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    Paul Emery

    02 August 2018

    Trump down 9.3 in RCP consensus poll, the average of all major polls Walt. You’re cherry picking polls clinging to the one most favorable to your opinion. I accept the average of all major polls as a pretty good guide to the state of Trumps job approval.

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12. 

    fish

    02 August 2018

    Posted by: Paul Emery | 02 August 2018 at 09:42 AM
    Yeah….Punchinello….lets just lock them up in the “Big Person” jail with whomever toted them across the border and watch the left melt down!
    What kind of “newsman” are you again Punch?

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13. 

    Bill Tozer

    02 August 2018

    @ 9:53 am
    Fish, that’s news director, not newsman. Directing the news you cannot use, as they say. No one would ever accuse Punchy of being a newsman. That would be so wrong.
    TAD appears to be progressive and irreversible.

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14. 

    ”’M”’

    02 August 2018

    ,,,bessie,,, walt,,,toes,,, your favorite fat face sleazebag journalist is getting busted for his QAnon fake news conspiracy theories, bahahaha
    https://www.nytimes.com/2018/07/31/us/politics/alex-jones-defamation-suit-sandy-hook.html

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15. 

    Don Bessee

    02 August 2018

    Oh the pain, the pain of the shuffling po’ ol’ fakenewsman. As Walt pointed out its 50%, 5 points higher than 0 at the same time. Too bad you don’t have druidism to fall back on for emotional support.
    http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/current_events/politics/prez_track_aug02
    😉

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16. 

    Paul Emery

    02 August 2018

    Sure Fish
    Cage the children and ship then ship them thousands of miles away without telling their parents where they are. that’s American compassion as you embrace it.

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17. 

    Todd Juvinall

    02 August 2018

    Paul Emery calls our ICE agents “kidnappers”? WOW! Hey Paul Emery, what do you call the parents of the 10,000 unaccompanied little chillin sent to America? You liberals are demented. I seem to recall under Obama about 150,000 little chillin came here without a parent as well. And he kept those chillin in cages. Where were you in 2014? In a mental institution?

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18. 

    fish

    02 August 2018

    Posted by: Paul Emery | 02 August 2018 at 10:20 AM
    Compassion would have never been making the trip at all! Subjecting young children to a 700 mile trip in the back of a box truck is poor parenting Punch…..but you’re not a parent so you don’t get it!

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19. 

    Todd Juvinall

    02 August 2018

    I think he actually hates kids. LOL!

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20. 

    Don Bessee

    02 August 2018

    And the po’ ol’ faknewsman can not figure out why people hate the fakenewsmen –
    Jeong’s Twitter feed is filled with a host of messages that could be construed as racist and offensive. Jeong compared “dumbass f—–g white people” to dogs, said that “old white men” were “lemmings,” opined that white people would “go extinct soon,” and used the hashtag #CancelWhitePeople.
    “Are white people genetically predisposed to burn faster in the sun, thus logically being only fit to live underground like groveling goblins,” she wrote in 2014 before adding a graph claiming that “whiteness” resulted in being “awful.”
    http://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/2018/08/02/new-york-times-stands-by-new-tech-writer-sarah-jeong-after-racist-tweets-surface.html
    Someone needs to educate the po’ ol’ fakenewsman @ 1020 that its been happening for decades so why care now, oh, ok its TAD’s!
    😉

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21. 

    fish

    02 August 2018

    Seems that it’s all dugski health issues all the time today……
    

    Do statins lower testosterone and does it matter?

    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3621773/

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22. 

    Gregory

    02 August 2018

    “So you’re a Libertarian that doesn’t support the findings of the Cato Institute. Hmmm”
    -Punchy 853am
    How Authoritarian of you, Paul. Also blind, because Cato Institute is a think tank and not a Fearless Leader demanding fealty to the words of every scholar that it publishes. Also blind because I didn’t say I don’t support “the findings of the Cato Institute”… I said it isn’t a “go-to” source for me.
    Regarding the open borders purist you found time to laud, I’ll just say that dollars are fungible, people are not. Also… open borders or a welfare state… choose one. Having both at once is not an interim solution.

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23. 

    Bill Tozer

    02 August 2018

    TAD strikes again. No doubt there is a market for people with TAD to run to. There is a wrench for every nut.
    “The irony here was so great. Wallace’s response to Sanders supporting the First Amendment was to ban clips of her from ever airing on her show. And the liberal media wonder why the public views them as out of touch and deranged.”
    https://www.newsbusters.org/blogs/nb/nicholas-fondacaro/2018/08/01/meltdown-msnbcs-wallace-bans-clips-sarah-sanders-her-show
    Yep, there is something about Sarah. Drives some folks sweaty.

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24. 

    ”’M”’

    02 August 2018

    Fishbreathe,,,red yeast rice and anabolics are my One A Days,,,no worries

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25. 

    fish

    02 August 2018

    Posted by: ”’M”’ | 02 August 2018 at 10:57 AM
    ….anabolics….?
    Well that explains the shrunken testicles!

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26. 

    Don Bessee

    02 August 2018

    Here is a little uncomfortable context that goes against the talking points for lefties –
    https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2018/jul/31/good-news-for-the-gop-hispanics-are-boosting-trump/
    😉

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27. 

    Bill Tozer

    02 August 2018

    “How Authoritarian of you”
    Bingo. This is what the Great Divide is all about. One side sees iindividual rights as bestowed upon them by their Creator, the other sees group rights as mandated by the government. One seeks freedom, the other seeks equality. You cannot achieve equality without authoritarianism.
    “In the process of supporting these things, liberals are providing support for Friedrich Hayek’s argument in The Road to Serfdom, that movement toward socialism is inevitably movement toward authoritarianism. They seem not to have noticed Yale Law professor Stephen Carter’s observation that “every law is violent,” because “behind every exercise of law stands the sheriff.”
    https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/columnists/michael-barone-liberal-against-freedom-of-conscience

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28. 

    George Rebane

    02 August 2018

    DonB 839pm – You cited Krugman’s prognostications in your 820pm

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29. 

    Don Bessee

    02 August 2018

    Not to be a contrary @ 1113 but the link showes;
    Evan Berryhill is a former congressional communications staffer for Rep. David B. McKinley. Currently, Evan is a second-year law student at West Virginia University. He has written for The Daily Caller, The Hill, Washington Examiner, American Thinker, Charleston Gazette, and WV State Journal.
    😉

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30. 

    Don Bessee

    02 August 2018

    Given the history of team Mullers reversals by higher courts this comes as no surprise –
    http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2018/08/02/manafort-case-judge-warns-mueller-team-cant-prove-conspiracy-without-star-witness.html
    😉

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31. 

    Gregory

    02 August 2018

    I recall the “Green Libertarian” trying to berate me for differing with Ron Paul on some point a couple years ago. WTF? Libertarians in general are on the anarchist side of life… not wanting chaos but not looking for a strong leader to hook our leashes to, either. Self-government.
    If he was any kind of libertarian he’d have already figured out that anytime there are 20 libertarians in one room there will be 23 different opinions on most subjects of interest. Shades of gray.
    Of course, being (or claiming to be) a Green Libertarian, a made up category with no party structure and no one else writing opinions under a/the banner of Green Libertarianism, means he can pretend to be anything he wants. A veritable chameleon.
    I think what Paul believes deep down is that everyone should be free to make the choices he makes, and not much else.

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32. 

    Paul Emery

    02 August 2018

    George
    Conservative commentator Alex Jones still believes Sandy Hook is a fraud. Is this what you refer to as something that “that happens extremely rarely in the obverse?” Also in your view is he an example of what Trump refers to when he says the media is an enemy of the people?

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33. 

    Todd Juvinall

    02 August 2018

    Paul Emery where is Allepo? And why would you support someone that doe not even know the answer to that? Is that the extent of your knowledge?

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34. 

    Paul Emery

    02 August 2018

    What does a town in Syria have to do with this conversation Todd?

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35. 

    Todd Juvinall

    02 August 2018

    I see all your mindless blather so I tossed in some more.

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36. 

    Todd Juvinall

    02 August 2018

    Trump at 50%, five points higher than Obama at the same place.

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37. 

    scenes

    02 August 2018

    Paul ‘Crickets’ Emery quotes (referring to removing people in detention from their children):
    “”That was a low point for me as well,” she said during an interview with Axios. “I feel very strongly about that, and I am very vehemently against family separation and the separation of parents and children.”
    Jeesh, you’d think she would have made a fuss back when Obama (and previous Presidents) was doing it. I doubt she really cares all that much.

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38. 

    Paul Emery

    02 August 2018

    Glad to see you recognize your contribution at 12:18 is mindless blather. Still curious what a tow in Syria has to do with anything being discussed.

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39. 

    Gregory

    02 August 2018

    tj 1228pm
    and six points higher than a couple weeks ago when Paulo cherry picked the Rassie poll because it was down three points after the Helsinki presser. But don’t worry, Manafort will be convicted and the Mueller persecution team will be on a roll… so why are people worried about the Manafort trial?
    FYI a great piece found by following hyperlinks in the Michael Barone essay. It’s far too long to quote as extensively as it deserves…
    https://www.economist.com/bagehots-notebook/2018/06/12/some-thoughts-on-the-crisis-of-liberalism-and-how-to-fix-it
    I did crack a smile at the Trumpenproletariat references… a fine turn of phrase. (For the unlettered, it’s a reference to the Marxist label “lumpenproletariat”. The rabble proles. The Despicables.
    Trumpen proletariat was apparently coined by jonah goldberg in this piece in 2015:
    https://www.nationalreview.com/g-file/donald-trump-conservative-movement-jonah-goldberg/

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40. 

    Gregory

    02 August 2018

    Todd – The question posed by Gary Johnson to his temptors at BSLSD was “What is a Lepo?” which is how he heard the question barked to him out of the blue from the Morning Joe inquisitor du jour.
    Paul – It was a reference to the guy you said you voted for president in Nov ’16 and appropriate for this conversation.

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41. 

    Bill Tozer

    02 August 2018

    @ 12:18 pm
    Now Todd, that was a low blow. The real question is “what is Aleppo?” Oh my I can’t believe you went there and I can’t believe that sailed right over the Green Libertation’s head. My goodness.
    I haven’t watched TV in awhile and am shocked to see what the hell happened to that dingbat Christiane Amanpour. She has swelled up like she is allergic to bees and someone disturbed the nest she was under. She looks like she is ready to pop. Hard to even recognize her. Shocking any network would put her on air until she recovers from sorosis of the liver or whatever disease she is suffering from.
    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=pcj8yJk87cs

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42. 

    Paul Emery

    02 August 2018

    I’m waiting for Todd to clarify that Todd. He’s a big boy and capable of speaking on his own.

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43. 

    Gregory

    02 August 2018

    Regarding children separated from people said to be their parents at the border…
    “I Was in Foster Care. Family Separation Isn’t Just a Problem at the Border” by a woman (Sherry Lachman, JD, founder of Foster America) who is one of the 3% of former kids in foster care who eventually got a 4 year degree. There are about a half million kids separated from their parents in the USA this moment.
    http://time.com/5355313/immigration-children-family-separation/

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44. 

    Paul Emery

    02 August 2018

    Gregory
    Is your 1:00 an attempt to negate the atrocity of 2500 children being stripped from their parents and caged?

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45. 

    scenes

    02 August 2018

    lol. Crickets is on a roll. Good for him.
    I think that the most realistic attitude to take is to be pro-child detention, don’t bother to feel bad about it. If you are going to have Mexican nationals stuffing solitary kids across the wasteland, people grabbing kids in order to cross the border with a bit more legal cover, or even crossing with their own, you have to deal with it in some way. It’s no different than handling the problem of a single parent who gets stuffed in jail over the weekend for a DUI, the state is going to step in.
    The real problem is that the turnaround isn’t fast enough. If someone crosses the desert and gets caught near Naco, you should be able to process them and fly them back to their hometown in a day or two. The problem is caused by open-borders advocates who gum up the works.

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46. 

    scenes

    02 August 2018

    Yeah Gregory. What about those children stripped and stuck in cages? Do you hate children? Do you hate cages?

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47. 

    Don Bessee

    02 August 2018

    The Prez was right –
    Even the Alamo, the most sacred soil of Texas, is being “reimagined” to deemphasize the heroic stand that took place there in 1836. Project master planner and non-Texan George Skarmeas defended this approach, saying “the events of 1836 were just one small chapter in 10,000 years of history,” and “we cannot single out one moment in time.” But “Forget the Alamo” doesn’t quite have the same ring to it.
    Old-school liberals underestimate the ISIS-like desire of progressives to wipe out history that does not pass ideological muster. Stephen Austin’s views on slavery were complex and nuanced like Jefferson’s, but so what? He is tainted by the American Republic’s original sin, so for progressives that is case closed. Hopefully most Texans will respond to having Austin’s name removed by saying, “come and take it.”
    https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2018/08/02/renaming-austin-progressive-effort-erase-history-confederate-slavery-statue-column/874651002/
    😉

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    Paul Emery

    02 August 2018

    Good question Scenes! “What about those children stripped and stuck in cages?”

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49. 

    scenes

    02 August 2018

    Paul Emery. Should they be sent home?

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50. 

    scenes

    02 August 2018

    “Old-school liberals underestimate the ISIS-like desire of progressives to wipe out history that does not pass ideological muster.”
    Heck, I think I even underestimate it.
    Here’s a good article. It’s quite long, but I’ll just throw it out for everyone.
    This is the kind of thing that the forces of civilization are up against.
    https://www.dangerous.com/45111/middle-rages/

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