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[Ideology – n. A structured and communicable belief system that in its best expression is composed of tenets defendable by and malleable to reason. Ideologue – a person who is willing to communicate his ideology.  A more dubious definition of an ideologue is “a person who zealously advocates an ideology”.  The adverb 'zealously' denotes doing something in an "ardent, devoted, or diligent manner".  Hence, I confess again that I am an ideologue.  But then what does one call a person who advocates an ideology in a non-zealous manner?  gjr]

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263 responses to “Sandbox – 23jul18”

  1. ’’’M’’’ Avatar
    ’’’M’’’

    ,,,yes of course the dastardly untying of boats is a case of malicious mischief,,,maybe they could not afford to purchase enough Amway bubble bath to do Port Huron right???

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  2. ’’’M’’’ Avatar
    ’’’M’’’

    ,,,the good news is that she can simply do like her paranoid cohorts and get the big man to give her boat a 24 hour taxpayer paid security detail!!!

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  3. fish Avatar
    fish

    Posted by: ’’’M’’’ | 27 July 2018 at 09:32 AM
    This is your solution……from a mind beset……?! I think you need some more sleep!

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  4. George Rebane Avatar

    M 932am – Sounds like a thinly veiled accusation that Republican “paranoid cohorts” require and use more “taxpayer paid security details” than normal, and most certainly more than their brave paranoia-rejecting Democrat predecessors.

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  5. Don Bessee Avatar
    Don Bessee

    4.1 GDP – nice! 😉

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  6. Gregory Avatar
    Gregory

    “M” 921pm
    Dastardly? No. Juvenile and malicious, without considering the risk to others beyond the family who own the boat.
    I wonder how Douglas K would like his car’s parking brake released on a public street?

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  7. ’’’M’’’ Avatar
    ’’’M’’’

    ,,,the Swamp Creature and his swamp buddies will probably eclipse all records for spending by an administration,
    https://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-florida-trips-prices-costs-first-family-vacation-capitalism-584551

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  8. ’’’M’’’ Avatar
    ’’’M’’’

    ,,,re the case of the Maritime Merinthophobiacs,
    ,,,some are just butthurt that it happened to an arch conservative,,,
    http://www.findingdulcinea.com/news/on-this-day/May-June-08/On-this-Day–Captain-Bligh-Lands-in-Java-after-Mutiny-on-the-Bounty.html

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  9. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    @ 10:04
    Nah, just go up and rifle through his house and throw all the dishes on the floor, open all the drawers and empty them out of the floor, strip the bedding and put them in the bathroom, carefully not to break anything or take one item. Not a thing missing. Nothing stolen but peace of mind. Each time M goes to the store, in the back of his mind he will be wondering if the pranksters are at his place right now.. Is he being watched? Will the jokers come back in the dead of night? Will they feed his dogs a meatball filled with fiberglass next time? Nah, nothing taken but piece of mind. Just those rambuckus youth. Things like that happen when school is out. Nothing to see here. Yawn.

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  10. ’’’M’’’ Avatar
    ’’’M’’’

    ,,,hey Donnie,,,the rest of of the GDP story is that it has not been this good since Obama. Thanks Obama!
    ,,,the recent numbers are due to,,,get this,,,fiscal stimulus, and pre trade war dumping,,,
    ,,,minus those two effects it would be more like 2-2.5%

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  11. Robert Cross Avatar
    Robert Cross

    Note to the circle of (fill in the blank). –it is 2018 not 1957.. the Cold War is over.. the Chinese (former communists) manufacture most of the consumer junk sold in American chain stores.. Russian’s are now the trump cabal’s best buddies..even though they want you to think otherwise…North and South Korea would like to reunite if trump would only get out of the way… the new threat isn’t external.. it’s internal and not from those who oppose trumpski.
    Fascism is a form of government which is a type of one-party dictatorship. Fascists are against democracy. They work for a totalitarian one-party state. … Such a state is led by a strong leader—such as a dictator and a martial government.
    a governmental system led by a dictator having complete power, forcibly suppressing opposition and criticism, regimenting all industry, commerce, etc., and emphasizing an aggressive nationalism and often racism.
    a political philosophy, movement, or regime (such as that of the Fascisti) that exalts nation and often race above the individual and that stands for a centralized autocratic government headed by a dictatorial leader, severe economic and social regimentation, and forcible suppression of opposition
    1.”Everything in the state”. The Government is supreme and the country is all-encompasing, and all within it must conform to the ruling body, often a dictator.
    2.”Nothing outside the state”. The country must grow and the implied goal of any fascist nation is to rule the world, and have every human submit to the government.
    3.”Nothing against the state”. Any type of questioning the government is not to be tolerated. If you do not see things our way, you are wrong. If you do not agree with the government, you cannot be allowed to live and taint the minds of the rest of the good citizens.
    The use of militarism was implied only as a means to accomplish one of the three above principles, mainly to keep the people and rest of the world in line.
    it is distinguishable from other forms of totalitarianism in its exultation of war and violence as a means of envigorating the state and the people. Its focus on nationalism means fascism may vary in detail from country to country, but always it brings war – against others and against the individual.
    Socialism is an economic theory of social organization that believes that the means of making, moving, and trading wealth should be owned or controlled by the community as a whole rather than by wealthy individuals.

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  12. Don Bessee Avatar
    Don Bessee

    Its going to be interesting to hear what he has to say –
    https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/6877922/wikileaks-julian-assange-forced-leave-ecuador-embassy/
    😉

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  13. George Rebane Avatar

    RobertC 1022am – Did you get most of your education from post-Great Society public union schools?

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  14. "M" Avatar
    “M”

    ,,,gregory and bill,,,I am sure you would not like the same pranks played on your either,,,grow up!!! I did not untie the boat!!!

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  15. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    M, not so sure you did not untie the boat. The way you blew off pirating movies and unting other people’s property, I ain’t so sure. In fact, about the time your were committing felonies by stealing copyrighted material and intellectual property, someone rifled through my car when it was parked behind the Del Oro. Was that you?

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  16. "M" Avatar
    “M”

    ,,,like I said toes,,,I only pirate AM radio now.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pirate_Radio_USA

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  17. "M" Avatar
    “M”

    ,,,what do you know sanity may be returning to the EPA after terrorist Scott Pruitt’s reign,,,
    https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/wireStory/epa-reverses-order-allowing-polluting-diesel-truck-engines-56862142

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  18. George Rebane Avatar

    M 1052am – Ah yes, guilty as rumored.

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  19. scenes Avatar
    scenes

    re: GeorgeR@10:49
    “RobertC 1022am – Did you get most of your education from post-Great Society public union schools?”
    One thing that the internet has made me grow tired of is these guys that cut ‘n paste some simplistic overview of thing, usually written by someone with a strong preconception, and then nod wisely like they made some point.
    In the case of fascism, hey, it’s a complicated thing, had it’s own thinkers, and evolved over time. It’s like attempting to understand Russian communist and Soviet history, there’s a helluva lot to it and it’s hard to do the whole situation justice.
    Of course, those boring ‘fascist’ rants, almost always copied from elsewhere, are merely to paint an enemy with a broad brush. I might as well do the short version Hitler -> fascist -> Trump, even though none of the arrows are true.
    In the final analysis, it’s all about Hitler. In a sense, he is the founding father of the modern Left .

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  20. fish Avatar
    fish

    Posted by: scenes | 27 July 2018 at 12:31 PM
    Might just be more beneficial if bobby just retrieved coffee for all of us!

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  21. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    Holy Smokes. Now they say the aliens won’t visit us because of all the plastic in tour oceans. I hate litterbugs. Did you see those piles of trash the Portland Occupy ICE mob left. It was stacked higher than horse manure In NYC in the 1800’s and even the Big Apple had an ordinance that the horse pucky could not be stacked higher than 6 feet on the streets. Disgusting. How come Liberals and Democrat Socialists always leave piles of trash everywhere they go? Why. I would like to know why? What is their major malfunction? Looks like Detroit on a bad day.
    “By the way, the United States is responsible for almost none of the plastic in the ocean. 60 percent comes from Southeast Asia. 95 percent comes from Asia and Africa combined. That leaves 5 percent split between every western country. Your straw is not a problem.” —Matt Walsh
    What kind of human debris would left such a filthy mess? Just like OWS or Occupy Oakland or any DNC convention, minus the American flags tossed on the ground. No consideration of the property or health of others.
    https://survivalist101.com/enjoy-this-video-of-police-clearing-the-holdouts-out-of-portlands-beautiful-occupy-ice-trash-heap/
    https://www.rt.com/usa/434249-portland-occupy-ice-cleared/
    Meanwhile in California, the 9th Circuit ruled higher capacity mags are legal.
    https://patriotpost.us/memes/57386-meanwhile-in-california-dot-dot-dot

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  22. Robert Cross Avatar
    Robert Cross

    The definitions of fascism were just for your entertainment purposes… whether they provoke any thought about current conditions is entirely up to each and every one of you. I report your decide..
    And yes George, I did get my education from public schools and universities.. some of them, in fact, that you yourself attended.

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  23. scenes Avatar
    scenes

    re: BillT@1:21PM There’s a great future in plastics.
    An article I ran into, although I’m not seeing the original study.
    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-4970214/95-plastic-oceans-comes-just-TEN-rivers.html
    re: ICE in Portland. Wouldn’t their mommas be proud.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aPhmk4ZiVJM&t=6m0s

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  24. George Rebane Avatar

    RobertC 146pm – I was more interested in the epoch of attendance because the focus of the curriculum and the competence of the teaching staffs changed markedly – mostly in K-12, but also a bit later in college level non-STEM courses. If you’ve kept up with the NCES (Dept of Education) reports or read these pages, then you know what I’m talking about. And yes, my formal education is all from public schools, but all the non-STEM stuff was before the Great Society kicked in – different times, different schools.
    BTW, it was your 1022am definition of socialism that was so innocent and endearing, as if you had just walked out of a post-1970 high school civics or history class.

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  25. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    They are coming home. Thank God. Try not to spit on them, you lovely Democrat Socialists, you.
    http://www.foxnews.com/world/2018/07/27/remains-us-war-dead-retrieved-from-north-korea-white-house-says.html

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  26. Walt Avatar

    Someone check the thermometer in Hell. It must be freezing down there.
    https://www.breitbart.com/california/2018/07/27/ninth-circuit-lets-trump-supporters-hurt-in-san-jose-riot-sue-police/
    Another win for the “Right” out of them.

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  27. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    Meanwhile across the Pond, they are just trying to make a better life for their families by looting the plunder of Western Civilization.
    “Sixteen migrants and ten officers from Spain’s Guardia Civil received hospital treatment following Thursday morning’s incident, during which the group bombarded agents with quicklime, sticks, stones and bags of excrement as well as aerosols used as flame throwers, the force said in a statement.
    “The incursion, which comes days after Spain officially overtook Italy in migrant arrivals by sea, occurred at around 6.30 am when the men used angle grinders and shears to cut through the outer and inner layers of the border fence.
    “The group also bore defensive equipment such as home-made shields and body armour, the Guardia Civil said, and once through the fence continued to attack agents and security vehicles. The force later recovered “Molotov cocktails and bags of hashish”, it added.
    The group scrambled over the razor wire fences “all of a sudden, with much violence”, a Guardia Civil spokesperson in Ceuta said.
    “But there is increasing concern that Spain simply cannot cope with the numbers of arrivals. NGOs say the country’s asylum system is collapsed, with thousands already waiting for spaces, and that more resources are desperately needed. In Andalusia, where the Spanish coastguard has rescued more than 1200 people from rafts since Monday, authorities are raising the alarm over the pressure on infrastructure,……..”
    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2018/07/26/dozens-injured-hundreds-migrants-storm-spains-ceuta-border-morocco/
    Somebody just hand Spain and gun with one round in the chamber and let Spain shoot themselves in the head. It would be more merciful.

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  28. scenes Avatar
    scenes

    re: BillT@2:54PM
    Well, you can see why zombie movies got so popular.
    https://i2.wp.com/blocs.mesvilaweb.cat/wp-content/uploads/sites/1594/2014/10/Tanca-de-Melilla.jpg?resize=640%2C395&ssl=1
    So do you get a little war now, a big one later on, or the Death of Western Civilization? The truth is somewhere in between, but nothing there is pretty.

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  29. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    Scenes from the Great Divide. It’s true, ‘tis true.
    https://m.facebook.com/lastamericapatriots/photos/a.235087906641439.1073741826.235086849974878/1112795605537327/?type=3&source=48
    Scenes from the Dark Side.
    https://m.facebook.com/lastamericapatriots/photos/a.235087906641439.1073741826.235086849974878/1112793978870823/?type=3&source=48
    Spain again. Watching the second video, it occurred to me that since they would not fight to defend their country, what makes Spain think they would fight to defend her?
    Warning: from Russia Today. Might influence your vote.
    “Back in June, newly appointed Interior Minister Fernando Grande-Marlaska announced his desire to remove the fence. “I’m going to do everything possible to see that these razor wire fences at Ceuta and Melilla are removed,” he said.
    Responding to the Thursday incident in Ceuta, the Guardia Civil’s AEGC union called upon the Spanish authorities to clarify its “plan B” to maintain security if the wire was removed.
    “We’re one of the main entry points from the third world into Europe and none of those in charge at the interior ministry have wanted to see or resolve the problems this is causing,” it said.
    https://www.rt.com/news/434325-spain-ceuta-migrants-flamethrowers/

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  30. Walt Avatar

    LIBS are peeved at Trump, yet when “O” gives aid and comfort to the enemy,, that’s OK.
    http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2018/07/27/obama-administration-approved-200g-grant-to-group-with-al-qaeda-ties.html
    “The Obama administration approved a $200,000 grant to a group in Sudan with ties to Al Qaeda even though it had been designated a terrorist-financing organization by the U.S. years earlier, a conservative think tank revealed this week.
    Further, an agency official acknowledged the prior administration allowed taxpayer money to flow to the group even after its designation was discovered. ”
    Yes, the crimes committed by “O” are just fine in the eyes of Proggys.

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  31. Gregory Avatar
    Gregory

    “The Bourgeoisie control the means of production” – a basso profundo
    https://youtu.be/e_8xfMjKjLM

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  32. Don Bessee Avatar
    Don Bessee

    Comrade valley girl who knows the mind of the military, 700 Billion increase, what a maroon –
    The progressive also suggested a “re-prioritization” of government spending by slashing the U.S. military budget. “Just last year we gave the military a $700 billion budget increase, which they didn’t even ask for,” said Ocasio-Cortez. “They’re like, ‘We don’t want another fighter jet!’ They’re like, ‘Don’t give us another nuclear bomb,’ you know?”
    https://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2018/07/27/alexandria-ocasio-cortez-carbon-tax-trillions-renewable-energy-economy/

    😉

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  33. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    Let that filly run free. You go girl, don’t let nobody stop ya.
    https://www.nationalreview.com/news/alexandria-ocasio-cortez-daily-show-fumbles-funding-questions/

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  34. Walt Avatar

    Don.. “Warren Buffett likes to say, if he pays as much as his secretary paid, 15 percent tax rate, if corporations paid — if we reverse the tax bill, raised our corporate tax rate to 28 percent … if we do those two things and also close some of those loopholes, that’s $2 trillion right there.”
    She forget that the corp. tax was even HIGHER!?
    Those same outfits would just tack on the tax to what we buy.
    Then you have nut case Izzy Warren.
    https://www.cnbc.com/2018/07/23/sen-elizabeth-warren-wants-to-roll-back-the-gop-tax-cuts.html
    Get a load of this.
    Q: If Democrats take the Congress, if you’re in the White House, or both, would you like to see these corporate tax cuts repealed?
    A: Yeah, I really want to see them rolled back.
    Q: Back to 35 percent?
    A: Well, it’s not about the number. Here’s how I look at budgets and taxes are at the heart of this. A lot of people think they’re just numbers; they’re not. They are the expression of our values. The values of the Republican Party that passed those tax cuts are to give $1.5 trillion away to the richest Americans and the biggest corporations, and let everybody else pick up the crumbs.
    I think the right way to think about this is that we need a budget, we need a tax bill that works for all of us. So what I’d like to see is I’d like to see us strengthen America’s middle class.
    Q: What’s too high for the top personal rate?
    A: It’s not about a number. That’s what negotiations are all about.
    Q: Is 50 percent obviously too high?
    A: That’s why you sit down and you negotiate over the numbers.
    Q: When George W. Bush was president, his team articulated the view that it was a matter of right and wrong that you shouldn’t have more than a third of your income taken. Do you feel similarly that it’s wrong for more than half of somebody’s marginal income to be taken?
    A: Look, there was a time in a very prosperous America — an America that was growing a middle class, an America in which working families were doing better generation after generation after generation — where the top marginal rate was well above 50 percent.
    Q: Ninety percent.
    A: That’s exactly right. But for me, the heart of the question is that you’ve got to ask, “What constitutes a fair share in this economy?” It depends in part on what the economy is.
    Q: It doesn’t strike you as obviously, “no, 90 percent, that’s ridiculous. Can’t be that”?
    A: Ninety percent, yes; 90 percent sounds pretty shockingly high. But what I’m trying to get at is this is not about negotiating over specific numbers. It’s not about negotiating before you go into the negotiations.
    She really wants to go back in tax time.
    Just tax the shit out of everyone.

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  35. fish Avatar
    fish

    Posted by: Walt | 27 July 2018 at 05:33 PM
    No big deal Walt! Just time to join the Fauxcohantas Free Shit Army! After all somebody else will be picking up the check!

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  36. Don Bessee Avatar
    Don Bessee

    Oh boy, they are going to take away his team 0 decoder ring –
    The U.S. economy’s 4.1 percent growth rate in the second quarter hit economist expectations on the head–but the underlying data suggest the economy may be even stronger than the headline.
    Economists often look to a figure known as “final sales to private domestic purchasers” for a view of how the private sector is doing. That number strips out volatile inventories data, trade, and government spending. It rose 4.3 percent in the second quarter, up from 2 percent in the first quarter.
    https://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2018/07/27/top-obama-economist-gdp-even-stronger-than-it-looks/
    😉

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  37. Walt Avatar

    And Liberals want to return to high unemployment and higher taxes.
    All in the name of control, and power.(and pocket lining)
    What you won’t hear, is the fact that Trump’s cutting of regulations, has plenty to do with the economy returning.
    Things are REAL good. We can’t find people to hire. (Granted, labor work ain’t for everyone.)
    I suggested poaching the homeless camps. (Boss tried that already)
    Seems plenty don’t want to work either.

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  38. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    @ 5:45 pm
    Bet Paul Krugman is still in the jon trying a pass a brick. He has been in there all day. 🙂

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  39. Don Bessee Avatar
    Don Bessee

    Georgia,200k in credit cards, sounds more like someone who would run in Cali or NY!
    https://www.yahoo.com/finance/news/stacey-abrams-im-running-governor-200000-debt-191600455.html
    😉

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  40. Don Bessee Avatar
    Don Bessee

    Will antifa and the pink knit hats target her concerts? I know one local politician who wont be buying any albums.
    Hedlund says there were enough to send “every police officer, firefighter and extended family to the concert, and then some.” The extras were passed on to other nearby police departments.
    Hedlund thanked Swift for the gesture on behalf of the town.
    https://www.breitbart.com/big-hollywood/2018/07/27/taylor-swift-donates-concert-tickets-to-mourning-massachusetts-police-department/
    😉

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  41. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    How low can they go? There are a lot of questions the Senate will ask the SCOTUS nominee, but Mrs. Kavanaugh‘s work e-mails are not any of them. Guns, gays, and abortion.
    NEW YORK TIMES TARGETS KAVANAUGH’S WIFE
    “I wouldn’t have thought my opinion of the New York Times could get any lower, but it just did. NTK Network reports that the Times, as well as the Associated Press, has requested emails sent or received by Ashley Kavanaugh in her capacity as town manager of Chevy Chase, Maryland:”
    https://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2018/07/new-york-times-targets-kavanaughs-wife.php
    For Gregory:
    https://m.facebook.com/Rowdier2/photos/a.1499270640284886.1073741828.1406258846252733/1997811337097478/?type=3&source=48

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  42. Gregory Avatar
    Gregory

    Toes, thanks for your PS at 911pm. A good one.
    I do miss Noni… he had a way with words and with the truth.

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  43. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    Me thinks we have not fully appreciated the implications of the recent 9th Circuit panel ruling on conceal carry. Not having guns in your home, but the right to bear arms…bear arms in public.
    “We do not take lightly the problem of gun violence, which the State of Hawaii ‘has understandably sought to fight,’” Judge Diarmuid O’Scannlain wrote. “But, for better or for worse, the Second Amendment does protect a right to carry a firearm in public for self-defense.”
    If the ruling stands, it could lead to more guns in public in the few western states under 9th Circuit jurisdiction where they are currently restricted.
    “States like Hawaii and California will have to allow far more guns on the streets than they do today,” said Adam Winkler, a law professor at the University of California, Los Angeles. “States would be able to ban concealed carry but only if they allow people to carry their guns openly displayed.”
    http://abc7.com/us-appeals-court-rules-hawaii-gun-restriction-unconstitutional-/3817836/
    Now, here is Hawaii’s pickle. Do they take the case to the full 9th Circuit and run the risk for having it work it’s way up to SCOTUS where another Justice will be seated this fall….Opps. Maybe not the wisest thing to do. Hawaii has a decision to make.
    All I know is this explains Little Piget freaking out a few days ago. And I thought it was due to Helsinki. Silly me. The other thing I know is Hawaii County has not issued a concealed carry permit in 20 years.

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