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[Agreed, that last sandbox was getting a little ripe.  Question – will Dems be able to keep the 'would/wouldn't' dust devil alive until November?  gjr]

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278 responses to “Sandbox – 18jul18”

  1. Paul Emery Avatar

    Rupublicans should be appalled at our wimp President especially if they compare him with Reagan
    “Mr Gorbachev Tear down that wall”
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7NjNL4Nsa4Q

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  2. Todd Juvinall Avatar
    Todd Juvinall

    M apparently does not keep up with the news. No Ambassador going to Russia. You are fake news.
    The Rooskie babe trying to get a NRA like organization into Russia has been jailed but there are so far no charges. So maybe the left can supply us some links?
    And the “education” system of our country has been in the hands of Amereica haters for many years. I had to attend many local BOE meetings to complain about their picking trextbooks that dissed our country or left out relevant historical facts and people. Hell they stopped teaching “cursive” and I protested that as well. But I lost to the commies.

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  3. Todd Juvinall Avatar
    Todd Juvinall

    DonB, that’s right. She failed to register as a lobbyist. Same thing thousands of others in DC fail to do. Tucker exposed that last night. She is just a sexy babe and probably turned down the wrong spook.

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  4. Don Bessee Avatar
    Don Bessee

    So what does Lapierre have to worry about ya po’ ol’ fakenwsman, he did nothing but take a picture. Lame. 😉

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  5. Paul Emery Avatar

    Charges have been filed Todd. Do your homework before you open your mouth and make a fool of yourself
    From the DOJ:
    Russian National Charged in Conspiracy to Act as an Agent of the Russian Federation Within the United States
    A criminal complaint was unsealed today in the District of Columbia charging a Russian national with conspiracy to act as an agent of the Russian Federation within the United States without prior notification to the Attorney General.
    The announcement was made by Assistant Attorney General for National Security John C. Demers, U.S. Attorney for the District of Columbia Jessie K. Liu, and Nancy McNamara, Assistant Director in Charge of the FBI’s Washington Field Office.
    Maria Butina, 29, a Russian citizen residing in Washington D.C., was arrested on July 15, 2018, in Washington, D.C., and made her initial appearance this afternoon before Magistrate Judge Deborah A. Robinson in the U.S. District Court for the District of Columbia. She was ordered held pending a hearing set for July 18, 2018.
    According to the affidavit in support of the complaint, from as early as 2015 and continuing through at least February 2017, Butina worked at the direction of a high-level official in the Russian government who was previously a member of the legislature of the Russian Federation and later became a top official at the Russian Central Bank. This Russian official was sanctioned by the U.S. Department of the Treasury, Office of Foreign Assets Control in April 2018.
    The court filings detail the Russian official’s and Butina’s efforts for Butina to act as an agent of Russia inside the United States by developing relationships with U.S. persons and infiltrating organizations having influence in American politics, for the purpose of advancing the interests of the Russian Federation. The filings also describe certain actions taken by Butina to further this effort during multiple visits from Russia and, later, when she entered and resided in the United States on a student visa. The filings allege that she undertook her activities without officially disclosing the fact that she was acting as an agent of Russian government, as required by law.
    https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/russian-national-charged-conspiracy-act-agent-russian-federation-within-united-states

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  6. fish Avatar
    fish

    Posted by: Don Bessee | 19 July 2018 at 12:12 PM
    Don…..the King of Obfuscation and Irrelevant Thought seems to be concerned that you might be encroaching on his turf!
    At least he didn’t play the “Uncle Punchy Super Happy Fun Question Time” card!
    YES OR NO!?!?

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  7. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    11:46 am
    Hi M sweetie. Glad you asked. The Russians did not pull the trigger and mess with our election. Whey say it today, Rosenstein did last Friday. We all have been saying it
    Now, let’s get down to brass tacks, shall we? The Russians may have done some meddling in the campaign. Particularly the Drunken Old Sea Haggie HIllary walking about trying to get her land legs back. They meddled with her campaign, tried to get into the RNC server, but fortunately the R’s were smart enough not to fall for that junivall prank and their password obliviously was something other than PASSWORD. Meddling, interfering, call if what you may, I am tired of trying to be State the differences. Not splitting hairs ,just being precise. Precise is good. The dirty murderous butchers Russians was all about campaign stuff. Not the election.
    Meddling before election? Sure. Meddling immediately after election? Yes! Meddling with the election? Nah, big thumbs down on election interference.
    Let’s look at campaign meddling/interference. Wikileaks! Ok, not one soul has yet to challenge the validity or authenticity of the contents of the DNC e-mails. Well, Donna Brazile did protest she never wrote what she wrote, but finally came clean. Those were her e-mails, no editing was done.
    The Russians were as surprised as anyone that Trump won. Within days they started organizing protests against Trump. They even organized both sides of the biggest protest and counter-demonstrations at the time….in NYC, ROFLMAO.
    Some argue hypothetically that Bernie would have won the nomination and would have beaten Trump but for the Hillary Campaign stopping her “Democrat” opponent. She already got Obama to stop Joe from entering the race, clearing the field. Nobody worried about Bernie. But. Bernie’s supporters were fired up, impassioned, and while Bernie drew crowds numbering 20,000 on the West Coast, Hillary’s biggest crowd (for many months’ was her Campaign kickoff on Roosevelt Island. 5,000 showed up. After everything fizzled out soon after, she tried a Reset of her Kickoff. Another lead balloon. And Bernie took New Hampshire, which sent Bill Clinton into a blind rage. Then Bernie took Michigan and all the Dem big donors started to freak out. This was before the big Wikileaks Dump on the eve of the DNC…obliviously intended to help Bernie.
    Those who say Bernie could have won, I might say there are a couple of quasi-valid points their arguments. But, probably not. We will never know for sure. Bernies team and Bernie’s minions were anti-Hillary well before the Wikileaks dumps were widely read. Before than, just a few folks bothered to read Wikileaks, save to check up on Snowden stuff. No, I would say the Bernie Bros would have never voted for Hill, Russian meddling or not. Heck, they were chanting “Lock her up, Lock her up” from day one.
    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=TGmytxiAzB8
    https://www.nytimes.com/2016/12/30/upshot/the-campaign-ads-that-moved-people-the-most.html
    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=dhSzsduNk-0

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  8. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    Oh Punchy,
    Reagan never said “Mr. Gobby, tear down this wall” with Gorbachev anywhere near that stage. Anywhere near.
    Ok, crack news director. please oh please name one time any US President in our history ever stood on the stage with a forgein president or Prime Minister or Leader and rebuked the forgein leader on stage at the same time. Name one. One time, banannas for brains, just on time. Kennedy, Reagan, Carter, Oke, Truman, Bubba, Obama?
    I call your bluff. All you Punchy fans out there, help him name one time any President dissed on/confronted foreign leader while both were standing together. He’s your hero, you dipshits.

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  9. scenes Avatar
    scenes

    re: PaulEmery@12:34PM
    BFD.
    A full list of Russian (and previously, Soviet) agents of various types that have been charged, swapped, hassled by federal agents, would take up pages and pages. It happens on the other side too.
    Seriously, are you as ignorant about this kind of thing as you appear to be, or is this just an attempt to rile up ToddJ?
    One more time:
    https://www.forbes.com/2009/08/27/ted-kennedy-soviet-union-ronald-reagan-opinions-columnists-peter-robinson.html#104e5fd4359a
    Did you vote for Ted Kennedy? Yes or no?

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  10. scenes Avatar
    scenes

    As an aside, the funny thing about the Russia spying outrage is that for every instance you can find, I can find a hundred like this:
    https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-cyberspying/russian-researchers-expose-breakthrough-in-u-s-spying-program-idUSKBN0LK1QV20150217

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  11. Todd Juvinall Avatar
    Todd Juvinall

    Paul Emery needs to comprehend what he writes so as not to cement why he is a fool. She did not register as a agent. Thousands of DC people are in the same boat. She is simply a dumbass. But hey the formula of you loony libs is chipping away at the edges. Try harder.

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  12. Paul Emery Avatar

    What would I vote for Ted Kennedy for Scenes? The only national election he ever ran in was 1980 election, resulting in a Democratic primary campaign loss to incumbent President Jimmy Carter. Is this what you’re referring to Scenes?

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  13. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    Good job catching the young Russian agent. It’s thir job to catch spies and bank robbers. Good job. We will take the young thing and hold her to trade for some of our spies Putin is holding. Heck, Carter Page helped Team America catch a Russian spy working for a bank stateside.
    Noticed they threw that catch all charge of “conspiracy” at her. That covers a lot of ground to hold her.
    26 or so years old? 28 years, fine looking. Those Russians have millions of beautiful gals. Back in the day, RFK would be boinking her brains out right about now. JKF slept with a East German spy as President and not to be outdone, brother Bobbie sleep with a fine looking Soviet Union spy. Those days were something else.
    Sleeping with the enemy is a good way to gather information…since Samson and Delia and before…objectively speaking. Heck, I slept with a teacher in HS to get a great grade. :). Good job FBI

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  14. Todd Juvinall Avatar
    Todd Juvinall

    The left always loves Teddy Roosevelt for his eco leanings. Almost makes him a GOD. And it was Teddy that said “walk softly and carry a big stick” if I recall. So Trump walked softly at Helsinki but carried that big stick of sanctions and other actions. You would think the left would be experiencing Trump-orgasms.

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  15. Paul Emery Avatar

    Todd, Did you read the indictment of the accused Russian spy. I provided a link for your convenience.

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  16. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    Ah, no worries Socialitic Democrats and assorted pieces of human debris. The big tsunami is coming. The Blue Wave will make that big bad Ogre trumpf go away. Your hour of power approaches, Lefties. Tear down Hetch Hetchy! Tear down ICE! Tear down our prisons and let all the incarcerated political prisoners free!
    They will not divide us! The Blue Wave is coming and boy are the Republicans ready to jump ship like the vermin they are. They will force the Orange racist out…or we will. Together we can. Hope you can believe in.
    Yawn.

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  17. fish Avatar
    fish

    Posted by: scenes | 19 July 2018 at 12:53 PM
    It doesn’t matter scenes! In his new form as Cold Warrior it only matters to Punch that it happens to “us”! He’s yet to master the notion that countries that spy are spied upon!
    Within boundaries it’s probably a good thing too!

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  18. George Rebane Avatar

    Liberal logic – the educational work product of national dumbth are the deplorables who voted for Trump, and not the two generations of Dems who can’t find the Atlantic Ocean on the map.

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  19. fish Avatar
    fish

    Posted by: George Rebane | 19 July 2018 at 01:55 PM
    As long as they recognize the “D” on the ballot they are sufficiently “educated” for Punchys crowd.

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  20. '''M''' Avatar
    ”’M”’

    ,,,todd,,,you are full of shit just like dear leader, Senate votes 98-0 rebuking trumpski on his ambassador idiocy.

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  21. '''M''' Avatar
    ”’M”’

    ,,,DNI Dan Coats thinks trumpski is bat shit crazy!!!,,,trumpski’s own state department says he is bat shit!!!

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  22. fish Avatar
    fish

    Posted by: ”’M”’ | 19 July 2018 at 02:07 PM
    Yeah Todd ….you might be full of it. But dugski isn’t…..he’s completely empty…..dare I say “Streets of San Francisco Empty”!

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  23. Todd Juvinall Avatar
    Todd Juvinall

    Trump never sent the ambo so it is moot. The ignorance of “M” is not unexpected.

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  24. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    All we are saying is give peace a chance. One nuclear bomb can ruin your whole day.
    “Nuclear proliferation was a problem private citizen Trump was concerned with in the late-1980s, according to Rosenbaum. This was before the Soviet Union had broken up.
    The following is excerpted from Rosenbaum’s piece on Slate:
    “Most of those [pre-nuclear] countries are in one form or another dominated by the U.S. and the Soviet Union,” Trump says. “Between those two nations you have the power to dominate any of those countries. So we should use our power of economic retaliation and they use their powers of retaliation and between the two of us we will prevent the problem from happening. It would have been better having done something five years ago.”
    But I believe even a country such as Pakistan would have to do something now. Five years from now they’ll laugh,” Trump said. “You think Pakistan would just fold? We wouldn’t have to offer them anything in return?”
    “Maybe we should offer them something. I’m saying you start off as nicely as possible. You apply as much pressure as necessary until you achieve the goal. You start off telling them, ‘Let’s get rid of it.’ If that doesn’t work you then start cutting off aid. And more aid and then more. You do whatever is necessary so these people will have riots in the street, so they can’t get water. So they can’t get Band-Aids, so they can’t get food. Because that’s the only thing that’s going to do it — the people, the riots.”
    Read more here: https://www.mcclatchydc.com/news/politics-government/article122745894.html#storylink=cpy

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  25. "M" Avatar
    “M”

    ,,,yawn,,,yes Todd,,,trumpski quickly had to cover his ass because the ENTIRE SENATE was voting against him. But,,,of course,,,you conveniently forget that it was trumpski’s pro Russian, anti- American idea to let the rooskies interrogate the US officials!!!
    http://thehill.com/homenews/senate/397904-senate-approves-resolution-warning-trump-not-to-hand-over-us-officials

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  26. "M" Avatar
    “M”

    Just another rooskie spy giving NRA members and Republican strategists a thrill,,,
    https://www.yahoo.com/news/russian-spy-offered-sex-access-202816082.html

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  27. Todd Juvinall Avatar
    Todd Juvinall

    “M” you are the same kind of person that came on my jobs and chastised the plumber before he finished for the “mess”. You are just a buffoon.

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  28. fish Avatar
    fish

    Bad news about your next getaway dugski…..
    Poop is beginning to be a big problem at Burning Man, authorities say.
    https://m.sfgate.com/lifestyle/article/Poop-is-beginning-to-be-a-big-problem-at-Burning-13087003.php

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  29. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    How about that Russian dude. Bet he sends it to M, counting on the face he hasn’t seen a real one in years.
    https://metro.co.uk/2018/07/18/man-90-covered-tattoos-penis-removed-interferes-look-7733391/

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  30. Don Bessee Avatar
    Don Bessee

    Come on now, were the resistance and your rules don’t matter to us. Everyone can sign a legal petition, felons, illegal, unregistered voters.
    https://freebeacon.com/politics/group-alleges-steyer-led-petition-az-submitted-invalid-signatures/
    😉

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  31. George Rebane Avatar

    Does anyone notice the Alinsky tactic of M’s 401pm accusing Trump of something he never said?

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  32. fish Avatar
    fish

    Posted by: George Rebane | 19 July 2018 at 05:40 PM
    I didn’t!
    Other than serving as source of material for my snotty responses there is absolutely no reason to pay attention to the “content” of Doug Keachies “thoughts”!
    You’re frequently offered “come, let us reason together” sentiment is entirely wasted on the Keachie-Emery partnership of stupidity (especially when dugski attempts to pretend he’s an economist….yuck! There I’m even embarrassed for him!)

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  33. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    Dr. Rebane.
    Yep. But even in the playground Sandbox, bringing up anything about history, context, gross hypocrisy, and some facts, ….well it’s all a diversion!
    All M wants to do….strike that….allM is driven to do is Dump on Trump. Sometimes it is soo easily refutable it is not even work the time to respond or post the first 5 links that come up on Goggle. Why bother. Let Uncle Sybil sit at the dinner table with that same lampshade on this head. Well, the old floral shade is getting rather withered, so I can’t rightly tell ya if now looks more like a dunce cap that a lampshade. Lots of duct tape.
    Oh, Good Doc, good job sneaking The Patriot Post in the “how many is too many people” post. Worked like a charm. Like tossing Baby Ruth candy bars into a crowed swimming pool. 🙂
    Ok, what to post?
    https://patriotpost.us/memes/57190-outrage
    https://m.facebook.com/lastamericapatriots/photos/a.235087906641439.1073741826.235086849974878/1103704753113079/?type=3&source=48
    Caio

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  34. Don Bessee Avatar
    Don Bessee

    Awww poor baby, its a wonder he didn’t post pictures of crime scenes with gps location intact –
    https://nypost.com/2018/07/19/rapper-gets-longer-prison-term-for-bragging-about-gang-violence-online/
    😉

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  35. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    Thank goodness, Trump has had enough of that total low life Brennan.
    Money quote: But in the past, no, I have no confidence in a guy like Brennan. I think he’s a total low life……..
    “Do you think any intelligence agencies, U.S. intelligence agencies, are out to get you?” Glor asked Trump.
    “Well, certainly in the past, it’s been terrible,” Trump began. “You look at Brennan, you look at Clapper, you look at Hayden, you look at Comey, you look at McCabe, you look at Strzok and his lover, Lisa Page. You look at other people in the F.B.I. that have been fired, are no longer there.”
    “Certainly I can’t have any confidence in the past. But I can have a lot of confidence in the present and the future, because it’s getting to be now where we’re putting our people in,” Trump continued. “But in the past, no, I have no confidence in a guy like Brennan. I think he’s a total low-life. I have no confidence in Clapper. You know, Clapper wrote me a beautiful letter when I first went to office, and it was really nice.”
    Thank goodness Joe DiGenova has had enough as well. Brennan is the real traitor, that scumbag. Expect more of this coming.
    Sean, I want to talk about two people. We only have so much time — John Brennan and Leon Panetta. John Brennan is a traitor and I will tell you why. He is the real traitor. What he did and what he has had recently about the President of the United States is despicable. He is personally responsible for the leaking of unmasked information, he was responsible for the sharing of false information to U.S. intelligence sources to get FISA warrants. He is personally responsible for the sharing of false information with American intelligence agencies, and he––I challenge him to a debate at the National Press Club for one hour, two hours, three hours about his role in the entire pre-election. And about Leon Panetta. Leon Panetta should be ashamed of himself after what he did in Benghazi when he kissed Hillary Clinton’s fanny…now he says he thinks the Russians may have something on the president to compromise him? Shame on Leon Panetta, may he rot in hell.”
    https://www.mediaite.com/tv/joe-digenova-to-hannity-john-brennan-is-the-real-traitor/

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  36. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    Quote:
    “The only question regarding Russia that should matter to U.S. policymakers is this: Using constitutional means, how do we advance the freedom, prosperity, and security of the American people in our dealings with Russia? But today, many liberals in Washington, DC, are asking: How can we use U.S. relations with Russia as a political weapon against President Trump?” —Terence Jeffrey
    Meuller
    https://politics.theonion.com/distraught-mueller-burns-every-piece-of-evidence-in-cas-1827661055

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  37. Don Bessee Avatar
    Don Bessee

    I just watched the Ingram Angle with a guest host. At the end they had Michigan US Senate Candidate John James. Check it out, warrior, businessman, family man.
    He told a story about an African American male who is NOW WORKING and just got a Trump tax bounus who said ” I don’t mind Trump he helps me and my babies eat good”.
    Botox nancy’s crumbs are feasts for our urban tiny tims!
    😉

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  38. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    More real Obstruction of Justice:
    https://www.investors.com/politics/editorials/clintons-emails-fbi-foreign-entity-gohmert/
    Don, link? Here is one with a sad story. 😦 Yep, it starts by chasing them out of restaurants, then….
    http://insider.foxnews.com/2018/07/19/asher-caffe-and-lounge-california-protested-being-supportive-donald-trump

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  39. Todd Juvinall Avatar
    Todd Juvinall

    Marcia had a great Letter to the Editor. Bravo Marcia. Thanks for making it clear. Millions of Americans are sad the press has become so biased especially against the right and common sense. Just today we learn that a Podesta Brother, the one lobbying for Ukraine back a couple of years, was offered immunity to testify against Manifort. Of course this Podesta and his brother are democrats and fundraisers and part of the Clinton cabal. And the Podesta offered immunity did the same thing that Meuller is accusing Manifort of doing. Why do you think that? Oh because Manifort was in the Trump campaign for a couple of months. And the charges against Manifort are from years before that. The press could care less except for the Trump part. That is why the news business is failing.

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  40. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    Todd,
    Manafort and Tony Podesta did join business ventures together consulting the pro-Russian Ukrainian President before he got ousted by a bloodless coup supported by the previous administration. Neither one registered as foreign lobbyists until well after the fact, but Manafort got charged and Tony walked.
    More good news for the Constitution. Soon we can hear those magic words, “You’re fired.”
    https://www.dailysignal.com/2018/07/19/federal-court-hands-trump-a-win-brings-rogue-agency-under-tighter-control/

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  41. Paul Emery Avatar

    Wow
    Unbelevable that Director of National Intelligence Dan Coats found out about Putins invitation to the White house this fall from a Newscaster who received a tweet from our very weird and desperate President. He was dumbfounded and embarrassed that he was blindsided and not consulted in the decision.
    “Director of National Intelligence Dan Coats seemed stunned to learn during a live Q&A that President Donald Trump invited Russian leader Vladimir Putin to the White House.
    During a discussion with MSNBC host Andrea Mitchell at the Aspen Security Forum in Aspen, Colorado, the reporter interrupted their chat to announce the breaking news from the Trump administration.
    “The White House has announced on Twitter that Vladimir Putin is coming to the White House in the fall,” Mitchell said.
    Coats paused, leaned in and asked, “Say that again?” as the audience erupted in laughter.
    He continued, “Did I hear you … ?” After another pause, he said, “OK. That’s going to be special.”
    https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/dan-coats-has-three-words-after-learning-trump-invited-vladimir-putin-to-white-house_us_5b50f7bee4b0b15aba8cfd4c

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  42. ’’’M’’’ Avatar
    ’’’M’’’

    ,,,Republicans vote down funding for increased election security!!!
    #BatShitCrazy!!!

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  43. ’’’M’’’ Avatar
    ’’’M’’’

    ,,,DNI Dan Coats on Putin Visit at Aspen Security Forum
    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=SopxN4NwjoA#
    #BatShitCrazy!!!

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  44. ’’’M’’’ Avatar
    ’’’M’’’

    An Incredible offer from Putin,,,
    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=VIDYSmHroo4#
    Yep,,,you guessed it,,,
    #BatShitCrazy!!!

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