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[President Trump's trip – is he doing it well, or is his direct and undiplomatic manner going to make things worse for the US when he returns.  And it looks like the Ugly Fat Kid needs another nudge.  gjr]

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400 responses to “Sandbox – 11jul18”

  1. Todd Juvinall Avatar
    Todd Juvinall

    Trump and the American people (at least those with a brain) have lost confidence in the DOJ and FBI from the Obama era. Strozk and Paige and the others that have disgraced the country have seen to that. Glad to see Trump smack Strozk upside the head at the end of the Presser.

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  2. Paul Emery Avatar

    So Todd you are on record as saying Trump should fire Sessions and Wray. Would you include Mueller and Rosenstein as well?

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  3. fish Avatar
    fish

    Posted by: “M” | 16 July 2018 at 09:22 AM
    what a hoot!!! scenes and toes excitedly pointing, jumping up and down, yelling ”’look over there, look over there”’!!!

    Sounds like someone is a little cranky and needs a “new one”!

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  4. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    In other news or more import, he is hard working man was just trying to provide a better life for his family.. All this could have been avoided if the mother had an abortion, right?
    https://www.theepochtimes.com/mexican-men-accused-of-beheading-13-year-old-alabama-girl_2592739.html
    The 13 year old’s life mean nothing to MSM.

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  5. fish Avatar
    fish

    these work great and the women at ”’the home”’ are impressed with my ”’package”’!!!
    Uh….dugski…..”package” is supposed to refer to the bulge in front…..not the lump behind!

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  6. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    Well, Peter Strzok sat on the evidence of finding classified info on Carlos Danger’s computer for three weeks during a non-biased FBI investigation, of cours. That at a minimum is obstruction of justice.
    McCabe, Ohr, Comey, Peter, and others have committed at a minimum Sedation against a sitting President. They are really going after those who investigate the investigators with their normal coordinated tactics. It’s up to Rosenstein to hold the line against Congressional Oversight and protect the Swamp thangs.
    I won’t hold my breath. They are above the law and the Constitution. Talk about a living Constitution.

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  7. "M" Avatar
    “M”

    ,,,toes, yes, if Strzok had been quicker Comey would not have released the Clinton death blow and trumpski would not be bromancing Putin!!!

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  8. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    Finally got round to reading the indictments against the Russian 12.
    One thing really popped out at me. It was the pair that used stolen/fraudulent identities to obtain VISAs to enter the US. Then they used the fraudulent ID’s to open bank accounts and committed wire fraud to pay for stuff through Pay Pal. That’s a big no-no. Can’t buy stuff on-line using fake IDs. through fraudulently obtained bank accounts.
    That really stood out to me. Imagine using fake IDs to enter our country and using stolen SS numbers to set up bank accounts. I just could not help from thinking over and over again the legal jeapody our own CA State Democrat Party endorsed candidate for the US Senate and half his family are put in. Kevin da León or León deKevin or something like that. the far more Progressive and preferred candidate.
    https://losangeles.cbslocal.com/2017/02/06/senate-leader-half-of-my-family-eligible-for-deportation-under-trump-order/
    Yes, once again, YouTube made the video magically disappear, again.

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  9. Paul Emery Avatar

    Direct quote from Bret Hume
    “Because Trump is unable to see past himself, he sees the Russia meddling investigation as only about him and the collusion claim, and thus calls it a witch hunt. But the investigations are much more about what Russia did, as the House and Senate reports long since established,” Hume tweeted.

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  10. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    The Union’s police blotter is great today. Must be the heat. Whole lot of fighting going on.
    https://www.theunion.com/news/local-news/nevada-county-police-blotter-woman-reported-dancing-provocatively-by-herself/

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  11. Todd Juvinall Avatar
    Todd Juvinall

    All these people trying to de-legitimize the Trump win in 2016 are to me the Fifth Column. Regardless whether left or right./ These people are so stupid they expect Trump to stay “Vlad thanks for the help” but Trump is not stupid. So my recommendation is MOVE ON AMERICA to greater things and let the media and never trumpers and Hillary stew in their own juices.

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  12. Paul Emery Avatar

    Once again
    So Todd you are on record as saying Trump should fire Sessions and Wray. Would you include Mueller and Rosenstein as well?

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  13. M Avatar
    M

    Toes at 1045 – that is probably one one todd’s X girlfriends!!!

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  14. M Avatar
    M

    ,,,calling it in to the Blotter, that is!!!

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  15. rl crabb Avatar

    GOP reacts to Trump’s speech in Helsinki… https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6h5ZLo-GO9E

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  16. Todd Juvinall Avatar
    Todd Juvinall

    No “M” unlike you I have class and like women with class. The cops did arrest that babe of yours who was naked and dancing sensually in her car over on Whiting Street. You need to supply her with better drugs.

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  17. Todd Juvinall Avatar
    Todd Juvinall

    I listened to the speech/presser and it was just fine. These critics remind me of when I made speeches or had pressers and later people would say to me, “why did you not say this or that”? Same thing.

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  18. M Avatar
    M

    ,,,rl, I did not watch the ‘’’hole’’’ clip??? Do they end up with their heads where the sun don’t shine??? That seems to be only explanation,

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  19. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    1) M, when I saw the police blotter, the first thing that crossed my mind was if the ex was back in town. I have a soft spot for high spirited women. 🙂
    2). Back to the indictments: “ So, is Russia now presumed innocent of hacking the 2016 election?” Note: Critical thinking and context required. M and Punchy can be excused from this reading.
    “The second [false premise] is that the number of indictments Mueller has generated proves that there were solid grounds to suspect Trump-campaign “collusion” in Russia’s election-meddling. The blatant, partisan dishonesty of this claim is best encapsulated in this passage from the Washington Post’s report on Mueller’s new indictment:
    Mueller and a team of prosecutors have been working since May 2017 to determine whether any Trump associates conspired with Russia to interfere in the election. With the new indictment, his office has filed charges against 32 people on crimes including hacking, money laundering and lying to the FBI.
    The Post goes on grudgingly to point out that 26 of the 32 charged are Russians “who are unlikely to ever be put on trial in the United States.” (Unlikely?) But the paper conveniently omits mention of the fact that none of the 32 have been charged with a Trump–Russia conspiracy to interfere in the election. That’s the only thing Mueller was needed for.
    What there will be, though, is a new international order in which nation-states are encouraged to file criminal charges against each other’s officials for actions deemed to be provocative (or, more accurately, actions that can be exploited for domestic political purposes). Of all government officials in the world, American officials are the most active on the global stage — and that includes meddling in other countries’ elections. I doubt our diplomats, intelligence operatives, elected officials, and citizens will much like living in the world Robert Mueller and Rod Rosenstein have given us. If the idea was to give Vladimir Putin and his thug regime a new way to sabotage the United States, nice work.
    https://www.nationalreview.com/2018/07/muellers-latest-indictments-russians-politicized-pointless/
    Meuller sends it over to DOJ, which will now “transition responsibility for this case to our Department’s National Security Division while we await the apprehension of the defendants.” This counterintelligence operation will never see a courtroom. All hat and no cattle.

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  20. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    More thumbs down from Fox News
    In an op-ed titled, “Putin eats Trump’s lunch in Helsinki — This is no way to win against Russia” Fox News analyst Douglas E. Schoen argued that the President’s performance was deeply disappointing.
    “President Putin was calculated and in control. Conversely, President Trump seemed to lack authority, praising Putin when he should have been condemning him, and ceding opportunities to confront Putin on his most egregious actions of the past decade – including meddling in the 2016 election and the illegal annexation of Crimea in 2014,” he said.
    He also condemned Trump’s attacks on US intelligence agencies.
    “For a sitting U.S. president to say publicly that he believes a foreign leader over his own intelligence team is shocking and admonishable. At a time when our democracy faces grave threats, it is deeply troubling that the president would side with the very country who attacked us.”

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  21. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    Todd believes Putin rather than our own intelligence team which puts him right there with Trump on the Putin cuddle couch.

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  22. fish Avatar
    fish

    Posted by: Paul Emery | 16 July 2018 at 12:08 PM
    Enjoy 6 1/2 more years Punch…..

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  23. Todd Juvinall Avatar
    Todd Juvinall

    FISH that is so cool. The best elixir is victory.

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  24. Gregory Avatar
    Gregory

    Punchy 1208pm
    You do realize Doug Schoen is a Democrat, don’t you? Fox doesn’t just hire right wingers.
    Yes, Trump could have done better in the Helsinki presser.

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  25. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    Trump did not dis our intelligence agencies. Trump dissed Obama’s intelligence agencies. Ole Communist Party voter John Brennanhad had another flare up with a bad case of TDS saying, “Donald Trump’s press performance in Helsinki rises to & exceeds the threshold of ‘high crimes and misdemeanors,’” Brennan tweeted. “It was nothing short of treasonous. Not only were Trump’s comments imbecilic, he is wholly in the pocket of Putin. Republican Patriots: Where are you???”
    Oh my. The only question I have is why why why do the bias fakenews want desperately to have bad relations with Russia? Not bad, they want worse relations. They demand it
    I can understand the 5 Bush Nevertrumpers in the Senate like Graham and Corker and half brain half wit McCain and his gang of warmongers going nuts per usual, but I never understood why the Left wants so desperately to have bad miserable relations with the world’s second largest military power? Bunch of nukes. It’s like it is treason to even think about talking to Russia. I just don’t get it. Which reminds me, that murderous thug in North Korea has not fired off a missle test since Nov, 2017, but I digress.
    Bingo! I figured it out. They hate Trump so much they do not prefer peace over war, do prefer hostile relations with Russia over any dialogue, want to drag us into another needless war……because they want to get of Trump so bad that nothing else matters. The have lost sight of the bigger picture. Man, that TDS is some powerful toxic stuff.
    Loved how Trump went after Debbie Whatzername Shultz’s main squeeze, her Pakistanian boytoy. Yeah, what happened to that? Why was the Obama FBI refused access to the “hacked” computers? And what’s up with this Soros character funneling hundreds of millions into influencing US elections with impunit, complete with hired street thugs? Thanks, Trump, I almost forgot about that, ROFLMAO. And thanks Putin for reminding us off all the suitcases of cash that got moved out of Russia to Hillary’s Foundation and campaign, lol.
    Trump has his eyes on the prize, the bigger prize. We used to have better dialogue with the Rooskies until Obama trashed all that prior long hard work. And Hillary saying all those nasty bad things about Putin on those cables Snowden leaked, not to mention Hillary’s and Obama’s intelligence agencies meddling with Russian Elections. Then Hillary gave Putin a reset button after screwing up our relations big time with Russia, ROFLMAO. Putin took that reset button and promptly annexed Crimea with a big middle finger to our Community Organizer (the smartest President in history) and Hillary.
    Scenes is right. Sometimes it’s all personal. Now that Trump cleared the stage of the Clinton/Obama stench, we might make some progress here, a little at a time.

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  26. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    Bill writes
    Trump did not dis our intelligence agencies”
    He dised the Republin DOJ Bill. They were the ones who brought the indictments not Obama’s team.

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  27. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    More from FOX news
    Neil Cavuto of Fox Business called the performance “disgusting.”
    “It’s not a right or left thing to me ― it’s just wrong,” he said. “A U.S. president on foreign soil talking to our biggest enemy … is essentially letting the guy get away with this. And not even offering a mild criticism.”
    “That sets us back a lot,” said Cavuto.

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  28. Todd Juvinall Avatar
    Todd Juvinall

    BillT you are correct. Trump dissed Obama’s intel people. Hell look at McCabe, Strozk and Brennan. All high ranking and Obamaites. And the summary given to Obama before Trump took office was they said yes, we have no proof but we think Russia interfered. And that was recycled last week with the additional joke of 12 HRU dudes from Russia. This is all a game and we Americans with a brain see it.

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  29. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    Todd
    It was Trumps own DOJ that indicted the Russians not Obama’s. Jeez you’re dense.

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  30. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    12:57pm
    I reject your factious premise that its is a Republican DOJ. First, Meuller brought the indictments. Name on R on Meuller’s team. Name one. Name one that was not a generous donor to the Clinton Campaign. Name just one. Now, an e all those officials who went to Hillary’s Victory Party. I will wait.
    Yes, Meuller is under the DOJ, per statute. Let’s see. Sessions, the AG, is on the sidelines and can’t say a peep or even look that way, and Rosenstein’s men (all Trump haters) are running the show….that is, the ones that have not been fired yet or demoted or put in the HR Department, or put on ice in some office for corruption and conducting an bias thumb on the scale investigation.
    Try reading “Licensed to Lie: Exposing Corruption in the Department of Justice” by Sydney Powell sometime. It’s perfect stuff for Democracy Now! Seriously, Paul, it’s a must read and you won’t be able to sleep for a night or two. And no one can attack the author. Amazingly Meuller brought back Weismann, the attack dog who quickly fled fro. the Justice Department t right when the spotlight was on him and his tactics and just before the Supreme Court throw out al of Weismann’s charges 9-0 against Arthur Anderson. Nine to zip. Too late for them. The firm was destroyed, throwing 35,000 folks out of work and leaving 2,5000 big corporations scrambling to find new tax accountatants. Gone and they did nothing wrong. Neither did Ted Stevens (R-Alaska) or Merril Lynch executives. Andy Weismann did not care. It was all about busting balls and filing charges, never about seeking the truth. Those Swamp Monsters are still in place, still there. They run the show. Republican Justice Department? Not yet, but give it time. Go out and try to learn something new today, Pablo.
    http://thehill.com/opinion/white-house/356253-judging-by-muellers-staffing-choices-he-may-not-be-very-interested-in

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  31. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    More republicans speaking out
    Rep. Will Hurd (R-Texas) slammed President Donald Trump for being so easily manipulated by Vladimir Putin.
    On Monday the two world leaders held a joint press conference during their summit.
    Hurd reacted to the press conference in a string of tweets. He started off his reflections by saying: “To all our allies: there are still many of us in Congress that know Russia is not just an adversary to the United States but to freedom loving people everywhere.”
    Rep. Will Hurd
    ‏Verified account @HurdOnTheHill
    2h2 hours ago
    I’ve seen Russian intelligence manipulate many people over my professional career and I never would have thought that the US President would become one of the ones getting played by old KGB hands.

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  32. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    So Bill should Trump fire them all and if so why hasen’t he done so?

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  33. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    Wow
    Trump down by 9 in today’s Republican leaning Rasmussen poll, the one Gregory likes.
    https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/latest_polls/

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  34. Gregory Avatar
    Gregory

    Punchy 1257pm
    “He dised (sic) the Republin (sic) DOJ Bill. They were the ones who brought the indictments not Obama’s team.”
    Obama occupied the oval office for eight of the past nine anna half years… I doubt there has been the sort of turnover in the DoJ required to make it a Trump “team” in the past 18 months and I sincerely doubt a Trump “team” would blindside Trump with indictments of Russian military intelligence officers the day before Trump is to talk to Putin.
    Let me know when the trials start… you know, the things that determine whether or not the state’s charges are valid.

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  35. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    Polls favoring Democrats in the fall highest since January. 8.2
    https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/other/2018_generic_congressional_vote-6185.html

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  36. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    Did you read the the indictments Gregory? If not here they are:
    https://d3i6fh83elv35t.cloudfront.net/static/2018/07/Muellerindictment.pdf

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  37. Gregory Avatar
    Gregory

    Let me know when the trial(s) start, Punch.
    The last time Trump’s numbers (45% approval among likely voters) were as bad as today’s Rasmussen poll was two weeks ago.

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  38. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    Have you read the indictments Gregory? You claim to be some kind of expert in the mater so I assume you have.

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  39. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    Get your Clown boner up and running, Pablo Popinjay. Howl at the moon, you deserve some good news! I haven’t seen you this giddy since that day you said “Trump has a zero chance of winning, Bill. The Republican Party is toast…gone, done, put a fork in it, never to rise from the ashes again.” Or jon smith lecturing us it’s all about the Electrolal College, where there is no way possible or even conceivable that Trump could win the Electroal College, duh. Give it up. Fair enough.
    Love it when you get your spirits flying high, high, high. Then comes the crash to earth, again. Enjoy it while it lasts. Acme Rents is having another banner year.
    You know, looking back, I might have been wrong about Hillary. I blamed her for working her ass off to get Obama to go along with her and attack Libya, a nation that gave up its nuke aspirations as per our demands and wasn’t quite the mischief maker or terrorist Kaddafi once was. Alas, I was short sighted.
    Looking back, the Left and Right Establishment have been itching to go to war, to take us into war. They want war. Schummer, Brennan, the Bushes, Clinton’s, RINOs, neocons, Nevertrumpers, and the Leftinistas. They cry out for war. More war. Even Kerry,
    Guess that makes us Deplorables the party of peace. We be the doves. See, we are just simple gentle folk, the peaceful salt of the earth. And to think all the horrible things that say about us who choose peace. All we are saying is give peace a chance.
    The civil war in Syria is winding down since Trump and Putin decimated ISIS. Now, what would have it accomplished if Obama and the Deep Swamp Creatures after 6 years took out Assad? Another Libya, and clustergluck mess? Wonder who is next on their bloodthirsty list. No wonder the Deep State went bonkers when Trump one. It’s all about War and Peace.
    Peace out bro, dig your fro.

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  40. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    Yeah I agree Gregory that Trumps numbers are looking pretty consistently grim (-9 approval). Thanks for verifying that .

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  41. Gregory Avatar
    Gregory

    “Have you read the indictments Gregory? You claim to be some kind of expert in the mater (sic) so I assume you have.”
    Where did I “claim to be some kind of expert in the mater”, Punch?
    And yes, I’ve read the indictment. Have you? What convinced you of its weight?

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  42. Gregory Avatar
    Gregory

    Punchy, Trump won the presidency with a 46% popular vote. So how far down is he?

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  43. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    The details of all the people and the scope involved convinced me that it was a major operation not just a fat kid on the couch with his computer as Trump proposed. The DOJ investigators are professionals that would not sign on to supporting a trivial pursuit Gregory. Also the indictment was brought on by the Grand Jury which is seperate from the DOJ.
    so it’s pretty clear you don’t support the indictments Gregory for some reason.

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  44. Todd Juvinall Avatar
    Todd Juvinall

    Trump is doing just fine. The sharks from the deep state and trump haters of all stripes think they smell blood in the water. But all it is fake news. I watched and listened to the presser and I’ll be hard pressed to say it was crappy. Trump is trying to make nice with a nation that can incinerate America and you would think that is a bad thing listening to the talking heads from everywhere. The R’s will maintain Congress and Trump is not going anywhere. All is good. Just tuen down the TV volume and have a coke.

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  45. Todd Juvinall Avatar
    Todd Juvinall

    The GRU “meddlers” did not affect the election. They changed nothing and the security of the vote in America is fine. We are always under attack by someone. Just as Obama spent our money to undermine Bibi in Israel and failed, the Rooskies failed as well. Our system is so archaic and broken down into 4,000 election offices each with their own system, it would take a million years to hack.
    As far as the Intel Community here. Why should Trump believe them all the way? Hell they tried their best to get him defeated then booted. Sure he has his “own” people in charge in some places but there are so many Obama holdovers it is hard to see when he will give his own people in place.

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  46. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    So Todd you admit the Russians meddled in our election. That’s more than Gregory see’s.

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  47. Walt Avatar

    LOL!! Paul thinks he has something. (Nope),, Just sinking to LIB news TROLL.

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  48. scenes Avatar
    scenes

    “The details of all the people and the scope involved convinced me that it was a major operation not just a fat kid on the couch with his computer as Trump proposed.”
    lol. So just what software technique made it seem like a ‘major operation’? It would be interesting to hear what you think actually happened.
    Hell, most of the ’17 intelligence agencies’ verbiage tends to get hot and bothered about the Russian version of BBC, RT, hardly an earthshaking bit of software wizardry.

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