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Sandbox – 5jul18

05 July 2018

["Immigrants separated from their children after being arrested for illegally entering the U.S. at the Mexican border are being asked to choose between being deported alone or with their children." Why in the world would we not deport the children with the adults who brought them in? Is it because the kiddie importers may not be the kids' parents after all? Then where is today's insane hew and cry about separating kids from arrested parents – a long practiced process for both American and illegals taken into custody? Or are we now done with this topic? gjr]

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328 responses to “Sandbox – 5jul18”

Walt

07 July 2018

Paul “McCarthy” Emery.. Commie hunter of Nevada City. He see’s Putin behind every pot plant. If you don’t hate Trump, you must LOVE Putin.
Your SOOOOo overdue on your Stormy Danials updates. ( You PROMISED!)

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scenes

07 July 2018

An article for Steve Frisch.
This sort of thing is interesting.
https://www.forbes.com/2009/08/27/ted-kennedy-soviet-union-ronald-reagan-opinions-columnists-peter-robinson.html#2bc4148f359a
The ‘consorting with Russians’ charge still strikes me as more a matter of ‘we wuz robbed’ than anything serious. Even if every allegation were true, I could find you a dozen far more egregious examples in the past.
It’s worth considering where the outrage comes from. None of it strike me as grassroots but as the result of an organized opposition. That’s fine, but it’s always good to reconsider your motivations.

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Steve Frisch

07 July 2018

Posted by: Todd Juvinall | 07 July 2018 at 08:33 AM
God forbid you would have to actually do a little research before you jump to conclusions Todd, we would not want to slow the lightning speed of your wit.
I don’t even know what “…as long as it is clean then it is not official…” means.
Are you still denying it was the official release of the committee?
BTW you can find the vote on Burr’s web site as well or just go here 🙂
https://www.congress.gov//

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Todd Juvinall

07 July 2018

Hey. If anyone is in doubt about the bias of the news people all you need to do is read the article in today’s SacBee Page 2A. It is a screed by a Ken Thomas of the AP. It is supposed to be about VP Mike Pence’s address on the democrats desire to get rid of ICE. Nowhere in the article does this “journalist” report the children are removed from illegal crossers and then placed in good care. Also the writers does not even let his readers know that ICE removed 245,000 felons from America last year. These kinds of lousy reports are why Americans are canceling their subscriptions. The smallest items that may make Trump, Pence or Republicans look good are never reported. But the author places comments from the far left loons into the article as some form of “equal time”. I tweeted the guy and kicked his ass a bit about his bias. That is what they do and it all leads to bad information and hard feelings. Journalism is dead in America and this small little story is a prime example of why that is.

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scenes

07 July 2018

Walt@8:35AM
“He see’s Putin behind every pot plant.”
My take is that he’s discovered that he can get the people here to dance like dolls on a string by posting a single sentence every few hours. There’s a certain joy in that although most people outgrow it.

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Todd Juvinall

07 July 2018

Oh my Frisch is upset he forgets to post the vote of the committee to release a “official” document. Sorry but if you don’t know the meaning of a “clean document” you have no business running a restaurant.
Hey Paul Emery, did you know that the Russian GOvernment has a cable TV news program 24/7 called RT? Is that collusion? I mean Putin is on that channel a lot. What do you think we should do?

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Todd Juvinall

07 July 2018

Here is the press release of the Intel Committee. It does not mention the vote if any of the “unclassified” version. Anyway, it is simply a review of the Obama teams conclusions which are not backed up by facts. What a joke.
https://www.intelligence.senate.gov/press/intel-committee-releases-unclassified-summary-initial-findings-2017-intelligence-community

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Steve Frisch

07 July 2018

“Today, Senate Select Committee on Intelligence Chairman Richard Burr (R-NC) and Vice Chairman Mark Warner (D-VA) released the Committee’s unclassified summary…”
It doesn’t take a rocket scientist to look at the coverage and find widespread reporting that there is a classified version of the document.

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Gregory

07 July 2018

“… low and behold, both the report and its conclusions are supported by Senator Burr.”
-Frisch 810am
Lo and behold, that is your straw man, not anything I claimed. Of course, Senator Burr supports it, he put it on his Senate web page. That doesn’t change the fact that it is missing many of the elements of an official report from a senate committee.
“Its lack of specificity can be attributed to the point that an un-classified version of the report will be forwarded at a later date”
Before the unclassified version of the report can be forwarded, they have to finish the classified version. Refer to the final bullet point at the bottom of page one. This informal memo is a prelude, not a finale.
For Punchy’s question of what I was referring to by “markings”, he apparently didn’t bother clicking on the link I provided days ago to an example of an interim report of a Senate intelligence sub-committee in the past. I provide it again here: https://www.intelligence.senate.gov/sites/default/files/94465.pdf
Page one is a full description of the document:
94TH CONGRESS SENATE REPORT
1st Session j No. 94-165
ALLEGED ASSASSINATION PLOTS
INVOLVING FOREIGN LEADERS
AN INTERIM REPORT
OF THE
SELECT COMMITTEE
TO STUDY GOVERNMENTAL OPERATIONS
WITH RESPECT TO
INTELLIGENCE ACTIVITIES
UNITED STATES SENATE
TOGETHER WITH
ADDITIONAL, SUPPLEMENTAL, AND SEPARATE
VIEWS
NOVEMBER 20 (legislative day, NOVEMBER 18), 1975
U.S. GOVERNMENT PRINTING OFFICE
61-9850 WASHINGTON : 1975
Page two lists the people involved:
SENATE SELECT COMMITTEE TO STUDY GOVERNMENTAL OPERATIONS
WITH RESPECT TO INTELLIGENCE ACTIVITIES
FRANK CHURCH, Idaho, Chairman
JOHN G. TOWER, Texas, Vice Chairman
PHILIP A. HART, Michigan
WALTER F. MONDALE, Minnesota
WALTER D. HUDDLESTON, Kentucky
ROBERT MORGAN, North Carolina
GARY HART, Colorado
HOWARD H. BAKER, JR., Tennessee
BARRY GOLDWATER, Arizona
CHARLES McC. MATHIAS, JR., Maryland
RICHARD S. SCHWEIKER, Pennnsylvania
WILLIAM G. MILLER, Staff Director
FREDERICK A. 0. SCHWARZ, Jr., Chief Counsel
CURTIs R. SMOTHERS, Counsel to the Minority
AUDREY HATRY, Clerk of the Committee
Followed by a table of contents, a prologue, the meat of the report and an epilogue.
Perhaps these touches will be included in the upcoming reports from the current Burr committee, along with the digging into the details mentioned in this interim memo as future work.

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Gregory

07 July 2018

“… low and behold, both the report and its conclusions are supported by Senator Burr.”
-Frisch 810am
Lo and behold, that is your straw man, not anything I claimed. Of course, Senator Burr supports it, he put it on his Senate web page. That doesn’t change the fact that it is missing many of the elements of an official report from a senate committee.
“Its lack of specificity can be attributed to the point that an un-classified version of the report will be forwarded at a later date”
Before the unclassified version of the report can be forwarded, they have to finish the classified version. Refer to the final bullet point at the bottom of page one. This informal memo is a prelude, not a finale.
For Punchy’s question of what I was referring to by “markings”, he apparently didn’t bother clicking on the link I provided days ago to an example of an interim report of a Senate intelligence sub-committee in the past. I provide it again here: https://www.intelligence.senate.gov/sites/default/files/94465.pdf
Page one is a full description of the document:
94TH CONGRESS SENATE REPORT
1st Session j No. 94-165
ALLEGED ASSASSINATION PLOTS
INVOLVING FOREIGN LEADERS
AN INTERIM REPORT
OF THE
SELECT COMMITTEE
TO STUDY GOVERNMENTAL OPERATIONS
WITH RESPECT TO
INTELLIGENCE ACTIVITIES
UNITED STATES SENATE
TOGETHER WITH
ADDITIONAL, SUPPLEMENTAL, AND SEPARATE
VIEWS
NOVEMBER 20 (legislative day, NOVEMBER 18), 1975
U.S. GOVERNMENT PRINTING OFFICE
61-9850 WASHINGTON : 1975
Page two lists the people involved:
SENATE SELECT COMMITTEE TO STUDY GOVERNMENTAL OPERATIONS
WITH RESPECT TO INTELLIGENCE ACTIVITIES
FRANK CHURCH, Idaho, Chairman
JOHN G. TOWER, Texas, Vice Chairman
PHILIP A. HART, Michigan
WALTER F. MONDALE, Minnesota
WALTER D. HUDDLESTON, Kentucky
ROBERT MORGAN, North Carolina
GARY HART, Colorado
HOWARD H. BAKER, JR., Tennessee
BARRY GOLDWATER, Arizona
CHARLES McC. MATHIAS, JR., Maryland
RICHARD S. SCHWEIKER, Pennnsylvania
WILLIAM G. MILLER, Staff Director
FREDERICK A. 0. SCHWARZ, Jr., Chief Counsel
CURTIs R. SMOTHERS, Counsel to the Minority
AUDREY HATRY, Clerk of the Committee
Followed by a table of contents, a prologue, the meat of the report and an epilogue.
Perhaps these touches will be included in the upcoming reports from the current Burr committee, along with the digging into the details mentioned in this interim memo as future work.

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Todd Juvinall

07 July 2018

My email to Daryl Steinberg Sacramento Mayor, who wrote a Resign letter to the Dixon Vice Mayor.
Reading your screed today about the Dixon Vice Mayor tells me all I need to know about you. You are a fascist! Why can’t a public figure speak his or her mind? And why should he not have the right for an opinion on things that might not be to your PC liking? He is simply speaking up for “normal” people. You have to admit that homosexuality is not a normal, natural thing and many people are sick of them throwing their lifestyles and pictures and parades in our faces. Why should little kids be subjected to that? I call that “child abuse” and perversion if one looks at their SF parades. My goodness, normal people don’t copulate in the street parades I have been too. Anyway, I am sure you will shout your PC crap as you are a pal of the SacBee but rest assured, I and many millions of Americans think someone speaking their minds about controversial issues is all about freedom of speech. Dixon voters can boot him if they want to. You should shut your pie hole and stick to the mess you have created in Sacramento.

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Paul Emery

07 July 2018

Todd
I’m concerned that you believe my opinion may lead to a Nuclear war and that I support a nuclear war. . Can you elaborate?
“Paul Emery won’t be satisfied until there is a nuclear war and that is just sick.”

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Steven Frisch

07 July 2018

Gregory, I didn’t say the classified version of the document was finished.

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Todd Juvinall

07 July 2018

Paul Emery your urging of Trump to get into it with Putin is the way you libs create wars. Since you have that opinion then I simply conflated that as you do to mean you are for nuclear war. There you are. So please stop it unlike you I do not wish us to have a nuclear war.

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Paul Emery

07 July 2018

Lets see Todd. Because I asked you to verify that you think Putin is “fine”, as described by Trump, you are saying that I am for a nuclear war because that’s the way “libs” start wars nuclear wars. So I should shut up because to quote you, ” unlike you I do not wish us to have a nuclear war”.
Can you share with our readers one nuclear war that has been started by libs by not saying that their leader is “fine”. By the way, how did the war in Iraq start Todd?

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fish

07 July 2018

Posted by: Paul Emery | 07 July 2018 at 11:06 AM
By the way, how did the war in Iraq start Todd?
Putin Cuddlers!?

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Paul Emery

07 July 2018

Are you talking about Bush Scenes?

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Todd Juvinall

07 July 2018

So Paul Emery admits he is asking for war since he is unable to stop attacking a Russian man with thousands of nuclear warheads. OK got it. You are a warmonger Paul Emery, why?

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Paul Emery

07 July 2018

So Todd you have to support Putin or you are a warmonger. Am I reading you right ?

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fish

07 July 2018

Posted by: Todd Juvinall | 07 July 2018 at 12:30 PM
What’s funny about this is that the tone of the accusations is nearly identical…..accusations of the apparent endorsement of nuclear war in Todds case (frankly I’m more than a little interested in your line of reasoning here Todd) and Punchies endless hunt for blasphemers….err….. “Putin Cuddlers”. I know Punch doesn’t really believe it but it makes for a handy accusation to hide behind politically and other than trumpeting (Hah….fish make joke) what he perceives to be the bluing of your region politically Punch has had precious few victories lately.
For the sake of his sanity maybe we all play along with this.

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Robert Cross

07 July 2018

Todd, In your response in the Union to Nausbaum’s letter about the paper’s coverage of the immigration protest you stated there were 200 anti-trump people and 70 pro trump. Yubanet and other witnesses with photographs put the numbers at 300-350 or more anti-trump folks and 15-30 trump supporters. Did you just make those numbers up? Are you just another blatant liar like your hero trump who makes stuff up just to make himself look good? I suppose you are going to claim that Yubanet is fake news and your numbers are right.

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M

07 July 2018

,,,yes Robert, Trump has indicated by his words and deeds that lying and just making up crap is how Americans should behave if they want to be presidential.
Todd embraces this wholeheartedly.

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Todd Juvinall

07 July 2018

FISH, I am simply waiting for Paul Emery to get it. looks like I may have to wait a long time.
RobertC, I was there and counted and I am correct. We had announced to meet at 9:30 am and leave after one hour. We did. There were 70 of us and 200 of themn. Yubanet was not there if I recall. I think Nora and her pals inflated the numbers. Why would they do that?

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Bill Tozer

07 July 2018

1) Todd. It might be a long wait. It’s over Punchy’s head. Only he can connect dots that are not there. He just likes to cut a silent but deadly one and quickly exit the packed room. 🙂 It’s common well documented knowledge that Punchy cannot stomach us peaceniks.
2) That Trump is something else. He just said what most of us (including moi) have been thinking for weeks.
http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/395926-trump-asks-whether-twitter-will-axe-nyt-wapo-in-purge-of-fake

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Bill Tozer

07 July 2018

On a more serious note, the magic word of the day is “pretext”.
“At a minimum, the letter provides us a pretext to interview,” Strzok wrote to Lisa Page on Sept. 26, 2016.
Within weeks, that “pretext” — often a synonym for an excuse — had been upsized to a Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act (FISA) court warrant, giving the FBI the ability to use some of its most awesome powers to monitor Carter Page and his activities.”
“…….That’s what Bill said,” Strzok wrote back, apparently referring to then-FBI chief of counterintelligence William Priestap. “I suggested we need to exchange our entire lists as we each have potential derogatory CI info the other doesn’t.” CI is short for confidential informants.
http://thehill.com/hilltv/rising/395776-memos-detail-fbis-hurry-the-f-up-pressure-to-probe-trump-campaign

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Don Bessee

07 July 2018

Team lefty can file this under be careful what you wish for –
https://www.yahoo.com/news/scott-pruitt-replacement-even-worse-232747527.html
😉

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scenes

07 July 2018

paulE: “So Todd you have to support Putin or you are a warmonger. Am I reading you right ?”
lol. Dance, Todd, Dance!!
also PaulE: “Are you talking about Bush Scenes?”
In what sense? I’m happy to bitch about either Bush. Maybe the Nazi Bush? The last is a little bit of a stretch given the size of the German economy at the time, it was hard to be a serious player and to avoid German investments at the time.
I think I’ll post this article again:
https://www.forbes.com/2009/08/27/ted-kennedy-soviet-union-ronald-reagan-opinions-columnists-peter-robinson.html#2bc4148f359a
just because it makes me laugh. Saint Teddy was a collaborator at the height of the USSR in terms of danger (ie. at the end), let in millions of invaders from the third world, and walked away from a drowning woman. He’s the perfect representative for Team Blue I think and probably needs some streets named after him.
So Paul, was Ted Kennedy a good man? YES OR NO!?

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scenes

07 July 2018

This guy would have made a good Grand Marshall for some California 4th parades.
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2018/07/07/man-threatened-to-kill-supporters-trump-gop-congressman-outside-campaign-office-police-say.html
Just because I like this pic:
https://i.redd.it/x1123aftni811.jpg
Oh jeez:
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/did-obama-administration-children-human-traffickers/
On the KVMR crack news team’s wall:
http://magaimg.net/img/1ok2.gif
Life in the UK:
https://i.imgur.com/PM02orW.jpg

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Paul Emery

07 July 2018

Who cares scenes. You’re diverting the question as to whether Todd thinks Putin is a “Putin is fine” as does Trump.
From that Ive been accused of wanting to start a Nuclear war. Todd, do you think Putin is fine as does Trump?

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Don Bessee

07 July 2018

Squawk! @210 😉

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Paul Emery

07 July 2018

Also as a diversion from this conversation is Fish playing the odds that I’ll die soon unless he’s talking about Trump being a dictator. Now that’s a classy conversation.
I hope the casual RR readers are getting a kick out of this conversation. It’s typical I’m afraid to say of the mentality of Trump supporters and certainly an example of the dumbing down of America that our host George Rebane likes to write about.

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scenes

07 July 2018

PaulE: “Todd, do you think Putin is fine as does Trump?”
Dance Todd Dance!!
still don’t know what I’m supposed to think about Bush here. Throw me a line, I’m drowning in your craziness.
“mentality of Trump supporters ”
Perhaps you could put up a copy of your resume for our amusement.

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scenes

07 July 2018

DonB: “Squawk! @210 ;-)”
lol. No doubt.
I’m wondering if he shouldn’t have a 5250 hold. The crazy is starting to worry me.

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Paul Emery

07 July 2018

Question was meant for Todd Scenes.

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Paul Emery

07 July 2018

Examples of the mentality of Trump supporters are Todds accusing me of desiring a Nuclear war and Fish speculating that I won’t outlive Trumps time in office. need I say more?

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scenes

07 July 2018

PaulE@2:30PM
Which question? There’s so many.
This one? “Are you talking about Bush Scenes?”
They’re so important after all.
“Also as a diversion from this conversation is Fish playing the odds that I’ll die soon”
It’s certainly a possibility given that I expect you’re no spring chicken. In the meantime, just think about all the happiness you can bring to the world with Good Works and virtue signaling.
TODD, FOR GOD’S SAKE. YOU HAVEN’T ANSWERED THE QUESTION!!!!

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scenes

07 July 2018

“Fish speculating that I won’t outlive Trumps time in office. need I say more?”
Really, that’s not impossible. Let’s say you are roughly 72 or so. Add 6.
A lot of men don’t make it to 78.

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”’M”’

07 July 2018

,,,Bessie at246,,,yes, trumpski said he wanted to get big coal working,,,so give them jobs at the EPA,,,bwahaha

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”’M”’

07 July 2018

@146

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Paul Emery

07 July 2018

Scenes
Are you defending that speculating of when I die is part of an intelligent conversation?

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scenes

07 July 2018

“Are you defending that speculating of when I die is part of an intelligent conversation?”
It depends. Can I buy life insurance on you?
Perhaps the point he is making is that the world will go on, and very likely Trump, long after you leave this vale of tears. All the hair rending will be for nought.
I would strongly suggest buying a copy of Marcus Aurelius’ ‘Meditations’. It’s not exactly a ripping good yarn, and to be fair it’s a favorite of the Alt-Right, but it might bring some balance to your belief system.

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scenes

07 July 2018

Team Blue is getting frisky.
https://www.thecollegefix.com/post/45790/

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Paul Emery

07 July 2018

Scenes at 3:00 is yet another exhibit of what our host George Rebane calls the dumbing down of America.

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Paul Emery

07 July 2018

Todd You can come back. I’m leaving for a gig and I won’t be around to embarrass you for awhile. Cheers to all.

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Todd Juvinall

07 July 2018

Paul Emery, I am back from a hot date with a great looking gal. So once again, Why are you promoting nuclear war in your attempts to put Trump and Putin at each others throats? Why would you do that? Tells me you are insane and need some help. As Pelline always says, the men in the white coats are coming for you.

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Robert Cross

07 July 2018

todd 1:00 — right Todd.. you counted them.. LOL. I don’t believe a word you say because you seem to just make stuff up as you go along. Can you actually count to 200?

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scenes

07 July 2018

Mad Maxine vs. the Loud Crowd.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1mHz83wnXDg

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Todd Juvinall

07 July 2018

BoobieC 350 Yes and of course I am way smarter than you are so I can see why you are jealous.

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Bill Tozer

07 July 2018

Wherever the gig Punchy’s off to, somebody go over there and hang a sign around his neck that says, “This Guy is as dead as he looks.”
Note to self. Make a note of date and time and notify the Franchise Tax Board. We don’t want anybody not declaring their income and absconding their patriotic duty, now do we
https://www.facebook.com/lastamericapatriots/photos/a.235087906641439.1073741826.235086849974878/1091306474352907/?type=3&theater
https://www.facebook.com/RowdyConservatives/photos/a.217983685002343.55586.217926015008110/1336094053191295/?type=3&theater

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Don Bessee

07 July 2018

The po’ ol’ putin party parrot’s narrative is built on a foundation of sand and texts –
The Hill‘s John Solomon reported that investigators have found communications that show “Strzok and his counterintelligence team rushing in the fall of 2016 to find ‘derogatory’ information from informants or a ‘pretext’ to accelerate the probe and get a surveillance warrant on figures tied to the future president.”
https://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2018/07/07/report-memos-show-fbis-hurry-the-f-up-pressure-weeks-before-2016-election/
😉

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