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["Immigrants separated from their children after being arrested for illegally entering the U.S. at the Mexican border are being asked to choose between being deported alone or with their children."  Why in the world would we not deport the children with the adults who brought them in?  Is it because the kiddie importers may not be the kids' parents after all?  Then where is today's insane hew and cry about separating kids from arrested parents – a long practiced process for both American and illegals taken into custody?  Or are we now done with this topic?  gjr]

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  1. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    Being powerless is a fearful place to be.
    Full disclosure: this link is copyrighted, so it’s ok to post it, right?
    © 2018, The Washington Post Writers Group
    https://patriotpost.us/opinion/56962-democrats-are-powerless-to-block-trumps-supreme-court-nominee
    Does the system need to be fixed every time the Green Liberatarians lose?
    https://patriotpost.us/opinion/56964-the-system-doesnt-need-to-be-fixed-every-time-dems-lose
    Tic toc. tic toc.
    https://patriotpost.us/cartoons/26332

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  2. Todd Juvinall Avatar
    Todd Juvinall

    Paul Emery wants a nuclear war I guess.

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  3. Paul Emery Avatar

    So Todd do you believe Trump when he says “”You know President Putin is KGB… Putin is fine. He’s fine.”

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  4. fish Avatar
    fish

    Posted by: Paul Emery | 06 July 2018 at 06:17 PM
    So Uncle Punchy what does Todd win if he thinks Putin is just peachy?
    More importantly what satisfaction do you get if Todd is a “Putin Cuddler”?

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  5. Paul Emery Avatar

    The question is for Todd Fish. Come to think of it Fish do you support Trump when he says “”You know President Putin is KGB… Putin is fine. He’s fine.”

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  6. Walt Avatar

    So now Paul has a woody for Putin? Stormy just not do’n for ya anymore?
    The Proggys really DO like Putin. They want one of their own to be just like him.
    What is a Proggy anyway?.. Just a lesser form of Commie, who has vivid dreams of coming out of the Socialist closet.” It’s OK when WE do it,, but if YOU do, it’s criminal.”

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  7. fish Avatar
    fish

    Posted by: Paul Emery | 06 July 2018 at 06:38 PM
    If you’ll note Punch I didn’t answer the question for Todd and I had a question for you regarding this compulsion of yours regarding who thinks Putin is just swell!
    What if Todd, Don and I are closeted “Putin Cuddlers” then what? What is Uncle Punchies next move?

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  8. Don Bessee Avatar
    Don Bessee

    Well the po’ ol’ putin party parrot could drop by so my pit bull could cuddle uncle punchies putin. 😉

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  9. Walt Avatar

    The day will come people on the Right will take to the streets and vent. It’s just a matter of time. They will demand equal treatment under the law.
    Trash the place, and no consequences.
    http://dailycaller.com/2018/07/06/charges-trump-inauguration-protesters/
    “The D.C. U.S. Attorney’s office dropped all charges Friday against people awaiting trial for allegedly rioting during President Donald Trump’s Inauguration Day.
    Police arrested 234 people on January 20, 2017, for rioting that was allegedly spearheaded by a group that calls themselves DisruptJ20. Protesters caused more than $100,000 in damage by setting fires and smashing store windows, reported The Washington Post.
    Although 21 people pleaded guilty before trial, prosecutors failed to secure any convictions for the protesters who went to trial. The attorney’s office filed a motion to dismiss the remaining 38 protesters awaiting trial, reported Zoe Tillman of BuzzFeed News. “

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  10. Paul Emery Avatar

    Fish
    You and Todd are supporters of Trump who says “””You know President Putin is KGB… Putin is fine. He’s fine.” Unless you state otherwise I assume you will stand by your man in this matter. All you have to say is something like “I don’t agree with that”.

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  11. Bonnie McGuire Avatar

    July 5/18 3:34
    Ya never know what’ll show up in the mail. Hahaha…Here’s what came today. Seen it happen to others, and Clint Eastwood even brought it out in a couple of his movies.
    This shows the pschycological Russian-Socialist warfare that’s been going on in America that I mentioned our doctors were being shown at the conclave in Russia. The one we were shown by lecture and film at the PTA meeting at Hennessy School in Grass Valley. Those who don’t go along with the brainwashing get persecuted.
    The Woman who exposed Elijah Cummings pt 6
    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=uwN4f05faNQ
    The beginning
    https://m.youtube.com/watch?feature=youtu.be&v=ZKL3XftVK4A

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  12. scenes Avatar
    scenes

    re: DonB@6:37PM
    Cool, I hadn’t heard about that in a while. I think they landed a couple on the Riga some time ago. I can’t imagine that it’s very easy to build up those systems from scratch, even when you are reverse engineering, and it’ll take a while for those guys to pull it off. Honestly, I’m surprised that they want to bother with carrier-based aviation given their situation and the likely upcoming obsolescence of that general tech.
    re: Putin is fine.
    I’d go so far as to say that he probably saved the world. The wind-down of the USSR could have gone disastrously wrong with no trouble at all. My own view is that someone like him is needed to run the place.

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  13. fish Avatar
    fish

    Posted by: Paul Emery | 06 July 2018 at 07:15 PM
    ….and should you wrest this admission from us? Then what?

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  14. Paul Emery Avatar

    It just gives you a chance to state your mind on this matter. You are very outspoken in your support of Trump so I’m just asking the question.

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  15. Paul Emery Avatar

    Check this out. Trumps former campaign manager is in solitary confinement 23 hours a day. Wow
    from Fox news:
    “Paul Manafort, the former Trump campaign manager who was sent to jail in June for allegedly tampering with witnesses in the special counsel investigation, is being held in solitary confinement in a Virginia prison cell for 23 hours a day, his lawyers said on Friday.
    Manafort, according to his lawyer, is being secluded because correctional officials “cannot otherwise guarantee his safety.”
    He was sent to jail on June 15 pending trial after pleading not guilty to charges filed by the special counsel, which alleged that he and his associate, Konstantin Kilimnik, of Moscow, obstructed justice in the Russia investigation.”

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  16. fish Avatar
    fish

    Posted by: Paul Emery | 06 July 2018 at 07:25 PM
    Ok Punch you win…..you’ve outed me as a “Putin Cuddler”!

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  17. Todd Juvinall Avatar
    Todd Juvinall

    It appears to me that Paul Emery wants a nuclear war. How come you want a nuclear war Paul Emery?

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  18. Paul Emery Avatar

    How in the hell did you come up with that assumption Todd? Please explain.

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  19. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    Oh Punchy fell for the oldest tweet in the book. There has not been a KGB since Nov. 6, 1991, aka, 26 years ago. That was closer to the honeymoon Bernie spent in Moscow with his lovely bride than it is to today’s date, ROFLMAO.. Keep digging and let us know when you make it to China.
    Boy, the Lefties will never forgive Russia for dumping communism. Ever.
    https://www.facebook.com/RowdyConservatives/photos/a.217983685002343.55586.217926015008110/1360641174069916/?type=3&theater
    https://patriotpost.us/memes/56973-contrast
    Oh my. This will ready set Punchy off his rocker.
    https://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2018/07/05/president-trump-says-hell-tell-nato-you-gotta-start-paying-your-bills/
    https://www.facebook.com/RowdyConservatives/photos/a.217983685002343.55586.217926015008110/1358760170924683/?type=3&theater

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  20. Don Bessee Avatar
    Don Bessee

    Collusion and meddling are clearly in the eye of the beholder –
    We like the change in approach, that he does not want to lecture all other countries in the world. … He understood the American methodology must not, by definition, work in countries with totally different history, different approaches, different understandings. And, of course, we understand very well his policy on migration.”
    Szijjártó also made reference to the efforts of President Barack Obama’s State Department to influence the domestic politics of Central and Eastern European countries. He spoke approvingly of the reluctance of the Trump administration to do the same. “We are happy that those open attempts to interfere in our domestic issues, which happened during the Democrat administration, are not the case anymore,” he told House.
    https://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2018/07/06/exclusive-foreign-minister-no-one-could-say-hungary-first-before-trumps-rise/
    😉

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  21. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    Simple, but not easy. Oh no, it’s the Punchy assumption threat! Whatever shall we do?!?!?!
    “Unless you state otherwise I assume you will stand by your man in this matter. All you have to say is something like “I don’t agree with that”——Punchy
    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=qLNXHuLV1H8

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  22. Paul Emery Avatar

    Do you agree with Trump that “Putin is fine” Bill?

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  23. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    Nope, can’t make me say it. You did not ask nicely or say please. Pretty please. With cucumbers and artichokes on top. Waiting. Waiting….

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  24. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    My goodness Walt you are such a Putin cuddler. I believe Trump is an outright commie the way he gushes over the international criminal Putin. Even his own CIA Director dowsn’t support him.
    Posted by: Paul Emery | 11 November 2017 at 03:05 PM
    AT least one Republican is not a Trump cuddler. This blog has gone from cuddling to outright wet kisses. Bizarre. I’ve been staying out of it. You guys are entertaining enough without me.
    Posted by: Paul Emery | 26 June 2017 at 09:01 AM
    Bill’s reputation as a Putin cuddler remains intact. Bill and Trump last ones that deny Russian interference
    Posted by: Paul emery | 21 June 2017 at 07:10 PM
    You are the one who supports Putin Don. He’s your snuuggle teddy bear you believe in more than the FBI, NSA and CiA. .
    Posted by: Paul Emery | 12 June 2017 at 10:10 PM
    And finally……drumroll please……..
    Gregory
    Pretty clearly expressed by by bill and not contended by anyone but me. Putin cuddlers.
    So big bad Trump on Foreign Policy. Other than creating a few quickly repaired potholes on an airfield in Syria and dropping a big bomb in the desert of Afghanistan what has he done? Oh yeah, he’s picking on pathetic little Cuba and swapping yucks with the Saudi thugs who won’t let women drive and keep them veiled.
    Making America great again…..sure.
    Posted by: Paul Emery | 22 June 2017 at 03:01 PM
    —————-
    Gee Punchy, women can now drive cars in Saudi. That President Trump is a miracle worker. Is there nothing that man cannot do?? Oh yeah, he fired T Rex just so you don’t have to worry anymore about Exxon Mobile and The Donald and Vlady taking over the world! Best to thank Trump to that, aka, President For Life.
    .

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  25. fish Avatar
    fish

    Posted by: Paul Emery | 06 July 2018 at 07:25 PM
    I suppose that I should feel some measure of pity towards you Punch……you will likely never see another president other than Trump in this lifetime.

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  26. Paul emery Avatar
    Paul emery

    I’m so flattered Bill You posted some of my best pieces from times past. Thank you so much. I’ll pick some of the best biker bill ones and do that sometime. Makes me feel good that I’m so appreciated.

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  27. Walt Avatar

    DAMN!!!,, Fish,, What a way to wake a guy up to mortality.
    You going to send Paul some under taker brochures next?

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  28. Gregory Avatar
    Gregory

    Punchy 125pm
    “Gregory
    Are you saying Sen Burr did not support the memo from the SI Committee and the mempdoes not represent the committee consensus? ?
    Gregory writes
    “Yes, that was from Burr’s senate web page. But Burr’s name is not on the memo nor the name of any other member of the committee, nor any claim of approval from the intelligence subcommittee. You know what an imprimatur is, don’t you, Steve? “”
    Golly, Punchy, let me spell it out for you:
    No, if I wanted to say “Sen Burr did not support the memo from the SI Committee and the mempdoes (sic) not represent the committee consensus?” I would have spelled memo correctly.
    Perhaps another way of stating what I did write is that from the memo on Burr’s senate web page has none of the markings I would expect from an official work product of a Senate committee indicating how it was approved by said committee.
    Was that easier for you to understand, Paul?

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  29. Todd Juvinall Avatar
    Todd Juvinall

    Every post Paul Emery makes here proves he wants a nuclear war. Why is that Paul Emery.

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  30. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    Wow Bonnie @ 7:19 pm. Wow and thank you.
    Went back and watched the first video posted (video #2). Wow. That is exactly a corrupt authoritarian regime does when it turns on its people and trample the Constitution beneath its heavy jack boots. The high crimes of the prior Administration stink to high heaven.
    Dr. Rebane should repost that again somewhere. Thank you Bonnie. July 6, 2018, 7:19 pm. That is exactly what has been happening in our country and where the Progressives and SJWs were taking us. Book burning was next, until the people cried out, “Enough. No Mas! We are taking our country back.”
    Once went to the USSR. Moscow. After I left, every person I talked to or shared lunch with was questioned by the Soviet Authorities. Found that out later. The liberals and Democrat Socialists love the Surveillance State…..and in 2018, nary a peep from the civil liberties crowd nor the Green Libertarians. Crickets. Long live Alan Dershowitz, true Libertarians, and all defenders of the Constitution, great and small.
    https://www.facebook.com/RowdyConservatives/photos/a.217983685002343.55586.217926015008110/1359495697517797/?type=3&theater

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  31. fish Avatar
    fish

    Posted by: Walt | 06 July 2018 at 08:54 PM
    Let’s not get too wet eyed about Punchies mortality…..Trump will probably be my president too!

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  32. Don Bessee Avatar
    Don Bessee

    The revengeful po’ ol’ putin party parrot when confronted with his own ramblings makes a threat. Its sad when the elderly don’t remember things. @845 But hey the druids cronies at the bar will have a game to play looking for cut and past opportunities. Until they can’t.
    😉

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  33. Todd Juvinall Avatar
    Todd Juvinall

    If anyone has a doubt about the stupidity of the left, go read the columns and letters from them in tonights Union. These people are truly stupid. We cannot let them ever get their fingers on the button!

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  34. fish Avatar
    fish

    Oops!
    ……Trump will probably be my president too!
    Already is!
    Trump will probably be my last president too!

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  35. Bonnie McGuire Avatar

    Bill T 9:23
    Thank you Bill for noticing. I’ve seen what others experienced for many years and it’s really nice to know someone actually noticed the parallel.

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  36. Todd Juvinall Avatar
    Todd Juvinall

    What a hoot. I posted some comments on the FB page of the idiots trying to recall Dixon City Councilman Ted Hickman. After a little back and forth, and of course I was being nice, those idiots blocked me. That is an example of liberal free speech control.

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  37. Paul Emery Avatar

    Gregory
    why are the “markings” you referred to in your 8:56 important Gregory? Are you questioning the validity of the document?

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  38. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    Oh yeah, I forgot one little detail.
    “My goodness Walt you are such a Putin cuddler. I believe Trump is an outright commie the way he gushes over the international criminal Putin. Even his own CIA Director dowsn’t support him.”
    Posted by: Paul Emery | 11 November 2017 at 03:05 PM
    Trump’s own CIA indeed supports Trump. May not agree with him, but stands behind the President. Duty first and all that stuff.
    “Asked if he must “walk a fine line” due to Trump’s dismissive attitude about claims of Russian election interference, Pompeo said: “I don’t do fine lines. I do the truth.”
    “We deliver nearly every day personally to the President the most exquisite truth that we know from the CIA,” he added.
    Those remarks echo what Pompeo said in October when he indicated that outside interference remains a threat to the midterm elections and the next presidential election, in 2020.
    “We are at risk in 2018 and 2020 … we are always at risk,” he said.
    https://www.cnn.com/2018/01/30/politics/cia-director-pompeo-russia-spies/index.html
    Ok, let’s see. We have Pomero keeping the suspicious eye out on those damn Russians. We have war hawk Bolten meeting with Russian officials to set a time and place for Trump and Putin to meet. We have Maddog 20-20 watching every move instead o being stuck with Ash Carter and his top priority of barring military Chaplins from giving religious services on government property and promoting tranny babies’s sex changes while they are on active duty. Me thinks we will be just fine with Putin running amok and our eyes wide open.
    And we have our secret weapon, the man from Queens. Coming soon: The Trump Hotel Tsar towering over Red Square!
    “After his meeting in Singapore with North Korean leader Kim Jong Un last week, Trump explained his thinking on the subject.
    “I think it’s better to have Russia in than out. Just like North Korea and everybody else, it’s much better to get along with them than if we don’t,” Trump told reporters.”

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  39. Paul Emery Avatar

    Todd
    Can you outline how my posts promote a nuclear war Todd? I can’t quite make the connection. thanks in advance.

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  40. Paul Emery Avatar

    Fish writes
    “I suppose that I should feel some measure of pity towards you Punch……you will likely never see another president other than Trump in this lifetime.”
    What do you know about my health that I don’t know Fish. My guess is that you support Trump for dictator. I’m feeling pretty peppy and may have another 20 years.

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  41. fish Avatar
    fish

    Posted by: Paul Emery | 06 July 2018 at 10:20 PM
    My guess is that you support Trump for dictator.

    Just playing the odds Punch.

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  42. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    Poor Popinjay. He longs for the days of the RINOs and is stuck in the Cold War mentality. Now he wants Cold War 2, but, alas, time has passed him by.
    “For decades, America’s elites failed to see that the transnational moment of the post-Cold War era was passing and an era of rising nationalism and tribalism was at hand.
    “We live in a time,” said U2’s Bono this week, “when institutions as vital to human progress as the United Nations are under attack.”
    “The institutions Bono referenced — the U.N., EU, NATO — all trace their roots to the 1940s and 1950s, a time that bears little resemblance to the era we have entered, an era marked by a spreading and desperate desire of peoples everywhere to preserve who and what they are.
    “No, Trump didn’t start the fire.
    “The world was ablaze with tribalism and was raising up authoritarians to realize nationalist ends — Xi Jinping, Putin, Narendra Modi in India, Erdogan in Turkey, Gen. el-Sissi in Egypt — before he came down that escalator.
    “And so the elites who were in charge when the fire broke out, and who failed to respond and refused even to recognize it, and who now denounce Trump for how he is coping with it, are unlikely to be called upon again to lead this republic.
    http://buchanan.org/blog/the-never-trumpers-are-never-coming-back-129609

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  43. Ricky McVeigh Avatar
    Ricky McVeigh

    “Is not the fact that each party has a liberal and conservative wing a genuine source of national strength and cohesion?…The result is, of course, that no group can have the desperate feeling that all options are foreclosed, all access to power barred, by the victory of the opposition: there will always be somebody in a Democratic administration on whose shoulders business can weep, and even a Republican administration will have somewhere a refuge for labor. If the party division were strictly ideological, each presidential election would subject national unity to a fearful test. We must remember that the one election when our parties stood irrevocably on questions of principle was the election of 1860.”
    —Arthur Schlesinger, 1950

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  44. Russ Avatar
    Russ

    Iranian harassment of U.S. warships:
    2015: 22
    2016: 36
    2017: 14
    This year: 0
    Source: U.S. Navy
    I wonder what has changed? MAGA!!

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  45. Todd Juvinall Avatar
    Todd Juvinall

    Yay Russ! No many nuke tests from the Norks either. But Paul Emery won’t be satisfied until there is a nuclear war and that is just sick.

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  46. Steve Frisch Avatar
    Steve Frisch

    Posted by: Gregory | 06 July 2018 at 08:56 PM
    After careful scholarship, that included looking at Senator Burr’s web site, reading his office press release, perusing the media coverage of his comments, and watching it from three different sources covered on video, I have come to the conclusion, that low and behold, both the report and its conclusions are supported by Senator Burr.
    Its lack of specificity can be attributed to the point that an un-classified version of the report will be forwarded at a later date.
    So, regardless of the lack of the ‘imprimatur’ that some regard as necessary for veracity, there is no conspiracy here…no plan to defame the memo by not placing an imprimatur on it…it is valid.
    I am however not surprised that those who wish to deny evidence would resort to the tactic of defaming it and claiming it is invalid if it is contrary to your beliefs, particularly when it comes to mindlessly following the Cult of Trump.

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  47. Todd Juvinall Avatar
    Todd Juvinall

    Yes it was on Burr’s webpage. So what? Not a header or a footer to allow someone to know if it is official or not. And as long as it is clean then it is not official. Please give us the vote of the committee to release this and maybe I will be more convinced of your position.

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  48. scenes Avatar
    scenes

    SteveFrisch@8:10AM
    Welcome. It’s nice to have a break from Team Paul now and again. He does your side no credit.
    My guess is that the real argument about Russkies and elections is determining to what degree their (or any other country’s) activities fall under the Rules of the Game.
    RT/Sputnik/etc strike me as perfectly acceptable. Social media engineering is new and yet to be worked out. Illegally breaking into a server is a problem, even if you are merely showing evildoings of someone else. There are certainly plenty of private organizations and individuals capable of any of these things. My guess is that multiple people had access to DNC and Hillary computers.
    One problem is that the things that are easy to show (state-sponsored media) are used to carry along the sketchier arguments (unproven hacking attempts, especially one that are likely to be physical breaches like thumb drives).
    Of course, the US does far more of these than is done to us, but that’s a different matter. At a state level, my suspicion is that we are already in a form of MAD. If the Russians were to release too much, we do the same to them. The ironic thing is that most of the political and banking secrets need to be kept secret from the public, not the elites of both sides.
    Personally, I wouldn’t mind seeing a crackdown on this kind of thing, especially cash flow, but there are too many people on the Mexico/Arab/Israeli gravy train for that to happen. Dig too deep, and the accusations of racism and/or anti-Semitism will fly.

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