[Wow! Didn't mean to let the last sandbox overfill with over 300 comments. But lots of important stuff to discuss and provide links for, among the unfinished ones being the asymmetrical Cambridge Analytica turmoil and the latest findings surfacing about Mueller's doings at the FBI. gjr]
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243 responses to “Sandbox – 20mar18”
George
I did not vote for Hillary and do not support her. You however continue to support Trump and his campaign. thats the difference.
Did you check out this video of the CEO of Cambridge talking about their techniques? this is the company That the Trump campaign paid 5 million dollars for their services. How you can support this is beyond my comprehension.
check out the link
http://deadline.com/2018/03/uks-channel-4-exposes-ceo-of-trump-consultant-cambridge-analytica-were-used-to-operating-in-the-shadows
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PaulE 927am – I have already explained beyond patience our totally different systems of logic and world views (ontologies). What does paying $5M, or any sum, for legitimate services have to do with anything???
And anyone just arrived from Mars (or any other objective examiner) looking at the years of your comments would definitely conclude that you have been and are one of Hillary’s most constant supporters, and one who continues, out of hand, to dun anything that is inimical to her reputation.
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From the city of “Ban”….
http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-fur-sales-sf-20180320-story.html
Someone better not tell them how computer chips are made.(nope, it ain’t pretty)
Or the destruction caused to mine lithium for batteries!(OH the HORROR!!)
Just what is in that Hetch Hetchy water?/
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Paul Emery, nothing illegal took place. In fact here is a copy/paste from George Boardman’s blog on the very issue. Read it then go back to your cave.
“Facebook executives spent much of Saturday arguing what happened didn’t constitute a data breach, even as they acknowledge Cambridge and others used data that was provided openly to third parties.
That would include the 2012 reelection campaign of President Barack Obama, which created a voter-outreach app that plugged into the Facebook platform to find potential supporters among a user’s friends.”
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George
Being opposed to Trump does not mean I am a Hillary supporter. I have often condemned the “pay to play ” scheme she ran with her punk husband.
Show me ONE time I said something good about Hillary. Just one.
Disappointed that you didn’t look further in Cambridge. More later.
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,,,paul,,,georger is assuming that trumpski’s organization paid for ”’legitimate services”’. trumpski’s organization wouldn’t care if they were legitimate as long as they could claim ignorance,,,
”’It was Bannon’s interest in culture as war that ignited Wylie’s intellectual concept. But it was Robert Mercer’s millions that created a firestorm. Kogan was able to throw money at the hard problem of acquiring personal data: he advertised for people who were willing to be paid to take a personality quiz on Amazon’s Mechanical Turk and Qualtrics. At the end of which Kogan’s app, called thisismydigitallife, gave him permission to access their Facebook profiles. And not just theirs, but their friends’ too. On average, each “seeder” – the people who had taken the personality test, around 320,000 in total – unwittingly gave access to at least 160 other people’s profiles, none of whom would have known or had reason to suspect.
What the email correspondence between Cambridge Analytica employees and Kogan shows is that Kogan had collected millions of profiles in a matter of weeks. But neither Wylie nor anyone else at Cambridge Analytica had checked that it was legal. It certainly wasn’t authorised. Kogan did have permission to pull Facebook data, but for academic purposes only. What’s more, under British data protection laws, it’s illegal for personal data to be sold to a third party without consent.
“Facebook could see it was happening,” says Wylie. “Their security protocols were triggered because Kogan’s apps were pulling this enormous amount of data, but apparently Kogan told them it was for academic use. So they were like, ‘Fine’.””’
https://www.theguardian.com/news/2018/mar/17/data-war-whistleblower-christopher-wylie-faceook-nix-bannon-trump
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Paul Emery, we figured out your hypocrisy long ago. You can stop with the explanations.
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Fake news strikes again. When the Austin bombings first started, CNN said two of the three victims were black and the third person was Hispanic. CNN went so far as to say that it’s a hate crime and if the bombings happened in a white affluent area of Austin, the place would be crawling with cops to solve this hate crime. For the record, the first two victims were not black but white
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LOL!! Dung,, I guess you didn’t read the FB disclaimer and “rules of use” before you clicked “agree”. (GOD what an idiot)…
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Looks like Zuck,, is about to get Zucked.
“The three social media companies testified in Washington last fall, following the revelation that their platforms had been used by foreign agents seeking to illegally influence the US presidential election. All three companies sent their general counsels, a move that was criticized at the time. It is unlikely that Zuckerberg will be able to avoid congressional questioning a second time.
Experts have long criticized Facebook’s privacy practices, but their warnings have done little to dissuade users – now numbering more than 2 billion around the world – from signing up for the platform.”
See that Dougy?? “Questionable privacy practices”
Facebook exists only to HARVEST PRIVATE INFO,, so they can SELL IT.
Have a newer car or truck? You DO realize there is a “black box” in it? Get in a wreck, it can be used against you.
Every time I got a newer buggy, that thing was/is the first to get ripped out by the wires.
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,,,going back to what georger said in the latest ”’full”’ sandbox,,,let’s say the ”’not cons”’ admit to agreeing with every accusation ”’not libs”’ keep tossing out there about what they hate about and supposed crimes committed by obama,,,hillary,,,pelosi,,,and whatever else the think notcons should be held accountable for,,,
allrightythen,,,all that obama stuff is in the past,,,done
so,,,now,,,present day,,,not living in the past anymore,,, what are the notlibs going to to about the exact same ”’crimes and injustices”’ they have been complaining about now that their ilk are doing even more of the same things???!!!
notcons have been pointing out,,,hey WTF about this,,,that and the other thing pubbers are doing that you were so upset about when barryfrostyos,,,or whatever scapegoat you trot out did in the past??? i thought you guys were supposed to be better than the notcons!!!
but when confronted with that truth all the notlibs do is point out something lame like ”’obama did it first”’
notlibs have control of much of the government yet they bumble around like keystone cops!!!
why don’t notlibs start by impeaching trumpski to show they are better than the notcons!!!
not going to happen,,,
pennsylvania pubbers are whining to scotus to keep their lame gerrymandered districts intact until after the election,,,
gop pubbers won’t get in the way of firing mueller,,,
trumpski is hiring economic advisors and lawyers off of TV shows,,,
and all the torrets tilapia can say is ”’still president”’ and make a potty joke,,,
#so lame
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Can’t impeach just because you don’t like Trump..
Keep dancing Dung….
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,,,walt,,,
#mensa-not!!!
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After reading your “attempt” at rational argument you have indeed convinced me that you’re #mensa-not!!!
No wonder you never got to teach anything more complex than “watch the birdie”!
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obeehave 1047am – You really have to take off those blinders. Covering the transgressions of past administrations and Congresses is a long-established American pastime and substantive foundations of debate. RR has existed during the entire Obama administrations, and the defenders of his many transgressions did nothing save citing their interpretations of what happened during the Reagan, Bush1, and Bush2 administrations – it is all here. And now you want to change the rules??!
Ignorance of history or cynicism, your pick.
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““Their security protocols were triggered because Kogan’s apps were pulling this enormous amount of data, but apparently Kogan told them it was for academic use. So they were like, ‘Fine’.””’
-obeehavenot
obee, if it was a crime to fool facebook half of the country would be guilty.
FYI I’ve a letter in The Union today, “The ACLU had it right”
If you like the title you might not like the message, and vice versa.
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,,,geoger,,,i,,, among others,,, must be doing our jobs and making an impression,,,i have heard now from the tilapia and apocalyptic scenes that my presence is not appreciated!!!
i am satisfied,,,then,,, because they have no intellectual response other than name calling…
that most queries are merely ignored indicates that i am right!!! and they are speechless as to their own party’s wackadoodle policies!!!
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i am satisfied,,,then,,, because they have no intellectual response other than name calling….
Yeah….I’d go with that dugski.
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George… You REALLY need to start drug testing those with fake names. You can start with “clueless”.
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Don’t recall supporting Hillary in any way George. show me one example
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PaulE 1228pm – You’re kidding, right?
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How much can you stomach Paul? PLENTY of Hillary cheer leading
“poll”wise.
Posted by: Paul Emery | 28 September 2016 at 06:16 PM
Posted by: Paul Emery | 28 September 2016 at 06:16 PM
Posted by: Paul Emery | 29 September 2016 at 01:29 PM
“The 20 points up for Hillary was from Silvers odds based on if the election were held today. It’s compared to last week. Follow the link and you’ll agree with me.”
So your saying Clinton would win… Right?
PRO Hillary if you ask me…
“Should have read will know next week what kind of bounce Hillary will be getting from trumps terrible debate performance Waste recognition has lots of flaws and it’s hard to edit this stuff Nice chatting with you Russ”
Humm.. How bout this from Paul.
Johnson was a Repub when he ran for Governor of New Mexico but saw the light and quit in 2011 because the Repubs did not in any way support Libertarian values.
Trump is an entertainer who is acting the role of a politician. Hillary is a hard core professional politician.
And many more.
Be careful of what you wish for Paul.
The ONLY reason you claim to have voted Johnson was he was pro DOPE.
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Bad ICE, bad. No wonder Gaven called the head of ICE a prick. Such language. My virgin ears have been defiled….again.
“In each instance, the Border Patrol Agent determined it was not appropriate, consistent with his or her federal responsibilities to ensure the enforcement of immigration law, to release a criminal alien to the state and local law enforcement,” Scott said in a court declaration. “This was because, although the alien was subject to removal, if released to California law enforcement, the alien would ultimately be released into the public.”
http://dailycaller.com/2018/03/20/border-patrol-agents-refuse-felons/
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Trump needs to implement the Insurrection Act
The Insurrection Act of 1807 is a United States federal law (10 U.S.C. §§ 251–255) that governs the ability of the President of the United States to deploy military troops within the United States to put down lawlessness, insurrection, and rebellion.
That should get Calif. attention.
Jail Brown and most of those under the dome in Sac.
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Walt, Punchy never supported Hillary. He just trashed relentlessly her opponent. Big difference in his mind.
First we were treated to a bad case of Bush Derangement Syndrome. During the long destructive eight years of the Omaha Presidency, all we heard was nothing but BDS. Ok, Punchy once got hot under the collar about Nevada County regulating big house parties with live music. Besides that and some minisule yawners in the grand scheme of things, it was eight straight years of BDS.
“I can assume George that you agree with me that Bush lied and people died! Good to have reached agreement here……blah, blah, blah.”
Now we have a fine example of TDS to enjoy daily. I rather enjoy reading the daily slobbering of those with TDS, an affliction like COPD. It’s progressive and irreversible. It’s just keeps getting better and better. Like that funny DC councilmen who just said Jews control the weather, ROFLMAO. Don’t tell me, he supports the Women’s March as well.
Enjoy the senile old Uncle Paulie rambling on at the Thanksgiving Dinner, drooling on the food and bits of tasty morsels spewing out over everything when he speaks. It’s rather amusing and intriguing to watch. Just stand back and enjoy. It’s quite the phenomena unfolding before our eyes.
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I profoundly dislike Trump Bill, didn’t vote for Hillary or Obama 2nd time around, Thought Bush was a disaster, Clinton was a sleazy punk and should have resigned, (didn’t vote for him) Bush the first was a CIA gangster. How far back do I have to go. Out so called two party system is a total disaster as I have claimed for years. Reagan was an actor, Carter was incompetant, Nixon was a crook……
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Collusion:
Bryon York and Andrew McCarthy have been writing good articles lately, York daily.
“Both Gates and Manafort were charged with something called “conspiracy against the United States.” As the former prosecutor Andrew McCarthy points out, “there is no such offense in federal law as ‘conspiracy against the United States.’” But Mueller’s office described their alleged crimes that way, and some media commentators liked the treason-ish sound of the phrase.
But in the Mueller investigation, it is precisely the people who would most be expected to be part of a collusion scheme who have not been charged with taking part in any such activity.”
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/columnists/byron-york-if-mueller-didnt-charge-flynn-and-manafort-with-collusion-then-who-was-colluding
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Right Bill AndNixon was never charged with Breaking into the Watergate as well.
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BillT 212pm – Good intro to ByronY’s recent commentaries and appearances on FN Mr Tozer. The question remains for Mueller to answer, ‘… then who was colluding??’ You can bet the farm that our leftwing friends here will be silent on the matter, as are their lamestream thought leaders. The witch hunt will continue until one is caught and burned.
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Too late for such a simple answer George. There are so many other suspected crimes that have been discovered and Grand Juries are going full steam. there are several guilty pleas so those are real and confessed crimes. Too late to save the Trumpster and things are on a downward spiral from here on out with a disaster predicted for the fall elections. The dems will likely win back the house and we all know where that leads. Even Republicans are predicting impeachment if Trump tries to out Mueller.
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Paul 207pm
Come off it, Paul… you were giddy with joy in the runup to the Nov ’16 election… looking forward to Hillary’s win demolishing conservatives in general and the GOP in particular. How did you put it… that the problem the community would have the next days and weeks after the inevitable crushing loss would be reintegrating conservatives/GOP into life after their dream was buried by the inevitability of a permanent loss of power.
Being a “green libertarian”, a party of one, meant you could have your cake and eat it, too.
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Paul forgets(again) that Nixon was hung by his OWN party.
“O” on the other hand was PROTECTED by his own party.
Nixon had nothing on “O’s indiscretions.
Nixon is owed a HUGE apology.
Be careful of dissing Nixon Paul, he has close relatives here.
Their influence in the county still lives.
You claim to not back the LIBS,, yet you make every excuse for them..
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LOL!! Listen to Paul. “Trump going down”
There is more dirt on “O”&Co. and all the broken laws by that admin than can ever be found on Trump.
Funny thing Paul,, you have YET to say just what laws have been broken by Trump.
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Here is what collusion looks like for the oh so confused po’ ol’ fakenewmen-
But behind the scenes, the petro was in fact a collaboration—a half-hidden joint venture between Venezuelan and Russian officials and businessmen, whose aim was to erode the power of U.S. sanctions, sources familiar with the effort told TIME.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/exclusive-russia-secretly-helped-venezuela-163554112.html
😉
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Is this what some are accusing Brennan of doing – spying on Americans? If that is such a big deal why did the House and Senate renew this a couple of months ago?
https://www.fastcompany.com/40516126/what-is-fisa-here-are-4-things-to-know-about-the-controversial-spy-law
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Give it a rest Archie. “O” and Co. did it for 8 years and Proggys said nothing. Forget it was “O”s admin that was out to unmask Americans all through out the election? How do you think they finally got caught? It sure wasn’t Holder or Lynch giving dropping a dime on the op.
The REAL undue influence in our election was done by the LIBS.
The DOJ and FBI became political tools and the FICA court as well…. BY the LEFT.
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Ol’ Moonbat is itching for his share.
http://www.breitbart.com/tech/2018/03/20/report-mark-zuckerberg-saved-tens-of-millions-of-dollars-by-selling-facebook-stock-before-crash/
Now didn’t Martha Stewart go to jail for the same thing?
What’s the $$$ cutoff that makes you too rich to jail?
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Walt, I think you mean the FISA court, not FICA. FICA is the social security tax.
This is FISA:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foreign_Intelligence_Surveillance_Act
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Archie
“Is this what some are accusing Brennan of doing – spying on Americans? If that is such a big deal why did the House and Senate renew this a couple of months ago?”
Simple answer Mr. Bunker. The FISA court is deemed a necessary tool by those in the know. What the recent consternation over FISA is about is the ABUSE of FISA courts by unseemly corrupt shady characters.
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Come off it Paul. Your CYA’s and revisionism is as lame as your musical talent. Good enough for Hotterville if you have enough drinks in ya, but won’t hold up to closer inspection. You are a funny man.
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Yo Fish,
My NRA gift came today! Nice little guy to fit in my front pocket. Not too big, not too small, just right.
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Yup,, I screwed the pooch on that.
FISA… Not FICA…
Note to Bill.. Keep the hammer on an empty cylinder.
Unless ya’ got the skin’n tool.
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I fought the law and the law won….despite great roadblocks.
So, more proof that the Democrat Party of CA supports robbers, gun crimes, wife beaters, drunk drivers like Ms. Hall, parole violators, drug dealers, hostage takers, and repent offenders.
“One was a Mexican national arrested for robbery and gun crimes, who was released back into the community for a prior offense despite an ICE detainer request in November.
Another Mexican national was arrested for a DUI, despite having been deported three times and prior convictions for false imprisonment, DUI and battery of a spouse.
The third was a Mexican national who was arrested for corporal injury of a spouse, despite being deported twice and criminal convictions including drug possession, hit-and-run, DUIs, possessions of narcotics equipment and a parole violation.”
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2018/03/20/illegal-immigrants-who-dodged-california-ice-raid-after-dem-mayors-tip-off-re-arrested-for-new-crimes.html
And yes, Punchy, we all know you are not a Democrat and will never vote Democrat again. The ole broken clock……gets it right. Kudos, sir
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Whether I thought Hillary would win and whether I supported Hillary are two entirely different matters. As different as night and day jeez, why should I have to explain that.
Didnt vote for Hillary ever.
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Bribery one step removed and collusion to steal US secret tech –
Schweizer discussed national security implications related to modern corruption, highlighting the acquisition of Henniges Automotive — a formerly America-based company developing “dual-use” technologies with military applications — by Aviation Industry Corporation of China (AVIC), a Chinese state-run military contractor. AVIC acquired Henniges in 2017 with a 51 percent stake purchase. The remaining 49 percent was purchased by the Biden- and-Kerry-linked BHR.
“So [Hunter Biden and Devon Archer] get this $1.5 billion to invest, and what they are supposed to do is basically invest in companies that benefit the Chinese government,” stated Schweizer. “So just think about this for a second. This is the vice president of the United States whose father is supposed to be commanding American presence and power in the Pacific to deal with the rising challenge from China, and his son is investing $1.5 billion of Chinese government money. So what do they do? They invest in an American high-precision tools company called Henniges, which used to be owned by Rocket Company, but they produce anti-vibration technologies which have a dual-use application, so this transaction actually requires the approval of the federal government, as it has national security implications. So again, the vice president’s son is helping the Chinese government take over a dual-use military technology-related company called Henniges.”
BHR also invested in a Chinese state-run atomic energy company indicted by the Department of Justice in crimes related to stealing nuclear secrets, Schweizer said.
“But it gets even worse because another investment that they make is in something called CGN — China General Nuclear — which is an atomic power company,” recalled Schweizer. “They invest in this company in 2014. A year later, what happens? The FBI arrests and charges senior officials in this company with stealing nuclear secrets in the United States. Specifically, they’re trying to get access to something called the AP-1000 nuclear reactor that is very similar to the ones that we put on U.S. submarines. So again, you have the son of the vice president, a close aide to the secretary of state who are investing in a company that is trying to steal nuclear secrets in the United States. It’s a stunning story, and here’s the thing: none of this is required to be disclosed because they’ve figured out a way to get around these disclosure laws.”
http://www.breitbart.com/radio/2018/03/20/schweizer-reveals-bidens-sons-massive-deal-chinese-company-trying-steal-americas-nuclear-secrets/
😉
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Funny that after all the stalling and political posturing, Chucky the Clown ends up voting for them. “Armageddon, the end is nigh” with their words while voting for the nominee with their actions.
“Today, the Senate has had 79 cloture votes in the first 14 months of our administration. Seventeen, over the last four administrations, versus 79 in the first 14 months of our administration. That is roughly five times the number of the last four administrations combined,” Short said.
He accused Sen. Chuck Schumer (D-N.Y.) of “weaponizing a Senate procedure and demanding cloture votes on our nominees that he even eventually supports.”
https://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/melanie-arter/wh-79-cloture-votes-used-against-trump-nominees-compared-17-past-4
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Paul
You were celebrating Hillary’s upcoming election. All over but the shouting.
You could taste the tears of tea partiers.
Instead, the Clintonista brigade cried in bed, for days, having woken up to discover that not only didn’t get victory, it was finally reported to them that the Obama presidency saw a decimation of Democratic Party elected officials from coast to coast. All those dogcatchers are the lowest rung of political careers, and DEMs weren’t winning like they used to.
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Hummmmmm.. This sure doesn’t sound like a definition of a Paul.
“Libertarianism (from Latin: libertas, meaning “freedom”) is a collection of political philosophies and movements that uphold liberty as a core principle.[1] Libertarians seek to maximize political freedom and autonomy, emphasizing freedom of choice, voluntary association, and individual judgment.[2][3][4] Libertarians share a skepticism of authority and state power, but they diverge on the scope of their opposition to existing political and economic systems. Various schools of libertarian thought offer a range of views regarding the legitimate functions of state and private power, often calling for the restriction or dissolution of coercive social institutions.[5]
Left-libertarians, seek to abolish capitalism and private ownership of the means of production in favor of their common or cooperative ownership and management, viewing private property as a barrier to freedom and liberty.[6][7][8][9] In contrast, modern right-libertarian ideologies, such as minarchism and anarcho-capitalism, instead advocate laissez-faire capitalism and strong private property rights,[10] such as in land, infrastructure and natural resources.”
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Deter to guns for a brief moment and today’s school shooting….
Don’t see why our local kids protested and will protest (demonstrate) again. Nevada Union High School is a gun free zone, is it not.?? There kiddies, the wolves will see that Gun Free Zone sign and leave the sheep alone. All fixed.
https://patriotpost.us/articles/54845-a-gun-saved-students-lives-today
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That sure helps make the community safe ms mayor, but it is already Oakland –
Another Mexican national was arrested for a DUI, despite having been deported three times and prior convictions for false imprisonment, DUI and battery of a spouse.
The third was a Mexican national who was arrested for corporal injury of a spouse, despite being deported twice and criminal convictions including drug possession, hit-and-run, DUIs, possessions of narcotics equipment and a parole violation.
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2018/03/20/illegal-immigrants-who-dodged-california-ice-raid-after-dem-mayors-tip-off-re-arrested-for-new-crimes.html
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