99 responses to “Sandbox – 17feb18”

1. 

   Don Bessee

   17 February 2018

   Its the economy stupid-
   http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/democrats-struggle-with-rising-popularity-of-gop-tax-law/article/2649354
   😉

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   Don Bessee

   17 February 2018

   The leader of the socialists in the UK is a prototypical lefty, what about you?
   The 68-year-old socialist has had something of a difficult week, with the revelations about Gourgel following revelations about meetings he had with a Communist spy during the Cold War — who claimed Corbyn acted as a paid informant codenamed ‘Cob’.
   Mr Corbyn is already known to have taken money from a television network backed by the Islamic fundamentalist Iranian regime, and to have been supportive of the Provisional Irish Republican Army (IRA) during its long terror campaign in Great Britain and Northern Ireland.
   http://www.breitbart.com/london/2018/02/17/corbyns-tragic-rough-sleeper-twice-deported-migrant-paedophile/
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3. 

   Gregory

   17 February 2018

   Here’s a fresh kitty-crunchy authored by Jonathan Turley:
   “Despite a 37-page indictment with a long narrative on a coordinated Russian campaign of interference, the most newsworthy fact comes from the carefully placed adjective “unwitting.” It confirms that the special counsel has found no knowing coordination or collusion between these hackers and Trump officials.”
   Looks Like There Was No Trump-Russia Collusion After All
   Mueller indictments still miss the mark on Trump-Russia collusion
   http://thehill.com/opinion/judiciary/374312-mueller-indictments-still-miss-the-mark-on-trump-russia-collusion

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   Don Bessee

   17 February 2018

   One can only hope!
   https://lawandcrime.com/opinion/does-mueller-indictment-mean-clinton-campaign-can-be-indicted-for-chris-steele/
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5. 

   Don Bessee

   17 February 2018

   While all eyes are on fat lil’ kim, the Russians little green men tried to attack one of OUR bases in Syria.
   https://www.yahoo.com/news/russian-toll-syria-battle-300-killed-wounded-sources-113121236.html
   😉

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6. 

   Bill Tozer

   17 February 2018

   No wonder Dr. Rebane closed his post “Our New Cannabis Ordinance – A Civil Approach” to comments. There is no civil approach, I reckon. Some folks just can’t handle it when things don’t go the way they want them to. Not very Nevada City friendly.
   Careful out there, all ye who dare resist. Watch out for that mob mentality.
   12:05 p.m. — A caller from the 300 block of Broad Street reported a man cornered the caller and was aggressive toward the caller yesterday after a council meeting.

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   Bill Tozer

   17 February 2018

   The Mueller indictments aren’t worth the paper they are written on. Not one of the 13 will face a trail, not one will be procesuted, not one will face any consequences as they are safely back home slamming shots of vodka and doing the ole Cassack Dance, aka, the Huskie Russkie Squat Dance celebrating the glorious victory for Mother Russia.
   Noticec we have gone from Rooskies stealing the election for Trump, then to meddling, now somewhere between the two with the favorite phrase of the week, “interfering”. Something for Punchy to run amok with. He never quite grasped the meaning of the word “meddling”.

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   Walt

   18 February 2018

   Russian news did Muller’s work for him.
   https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/worldviews/wp/2018/02/18/the-russian-journalist-who-helped-uncover-election-meddling-is-confounded-by-the-mueller-indictments/?utm_term=.4b2c9ab8476c

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9. 

   Don Bessee

   18 February 2018

   The Chinese testing the admin-
   https://www.axios.com/scoop-skirmish-in-beijing-over-the-nuclear-football-1518992774-1e7a513d-4190-459d-ad4f-2c8746fecc6f.html
   😉

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10. 

    Bill Tozer

    18 February 2018

    The Russian bots made me do it.
    https://news.americanewscentral.com/2018/02/18/cnn-claims-russian-bots-behind-pro-gun-tweets-responses-gold/?utm_source=spn&utm_medium=facebook&utm_campaign=spncampaign

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11. 

    Don Bessee

    18 February 2018

    Here is one for the po’ ol’ fakenewsman-
    In fact, he said, the majority of the Russian ad spending happened after the election — which “very few outlets have covered” because it “doesn’t align with the main media narrative.”
    “The main goal of the Russian propaganda and misinformation effort is to divide America by using our institutions, like free speech and social media, against us. It has stoked fear and hatred amongst Americans. It is working incredibly well. We are quite divided as a nation,” he said.
    “The single best demonstration of Russia’s true motives is the Houston anti-islamic protest. Americans were literally puppeted into the streets by trolls who organized both the sides of protest,” he said.
    Goldman linked to a news story on how Russian online trolls organized both sides of an anti-Islam protest.
    Breitbart News also found one of the ads mentioned in Mueller’s indictment, for an event called “Support Hillary. Save American Muslims,” showing that not all the ads were anti-Clinton and pro-Trump.
    http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2018/02/18/facebook-vp-ron-goldman-russian-ads-election/
    😉

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12. 

    Bill Tozer

    18 February 2018

    Don.
    Did the Union republish your “Why Should Neighboorhoods Suffer?” I had to do a double take. Oh boy, you must be a glutton for punishment. Heads up, incoming. 🙂

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13. 

    Don Bessee

    18 February 2018

    Screw the thought Nazis-
    http://www.kmov.com/story/37532228/business-owner-threatened-harassed-after-flying-flag-supporting-police
    😉

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14. 

    Mary Wanna

    19 February 2018

    Posted by: Bill Tozer | 17 February 2018 at 11:05 PM
    Yes, Bill, no wonder. 29 comments and the thread shut down. A new record.
    The excuse was it was a sandbox type brawl but the truth is George, Bessee et al cannnot explain the unfair and biased proposed requirement that indoor hobby gardeners are forced to provide odor control filtration for their residential hobbies.
    “Civil approach”? How about “bias” and “double standard” ?

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15. 

    Russ Steele

    19 February 2018

    Yes, it was Rich, but Mueller is Hoovering
    In response, Dotcom tweeted “Let me assure you, the DNC hack wasn’t even a hack. It was an insider with a memory stick. I know this because I know who did it and why,” adding “Special Counsel Mueller is not interested in my evidence. My lawyers wrote to him twice. He never replied. 360 pounds!” alluding of course to Trump’s “400 pound genius” comment.
    https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-02-18/kim-dotcom-let-me-assure-you-dnc-hack-wasnt-even-hack

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    Bill Tozer

    19 February 2018

    No Mary, the truth is it became a brawl. The pro dopers got personal, ugly (uglier than their usual reflection in a mirror) and uncivil. Don’t remember a big stink over dope heads usng indoor filtration systems….unless you are now using that as an excuse to justify such ghastly ant-social behavior. I thought wacky tobacco made dopers mellow. Learn something new everyday.

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    Bill Tozer

    19 February 2018

    I hope people go to prison for this. A felony conviction can nullify any pension benefits. Good thing our AG has picked up the scent to find these low life yellow bellied bush wacking slithering varmits. Time to bring them to justice and serve no knock warrants.

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18. 

    Bill Tozer

    19 February 2018

    Oh yeah, the link. Kinda necessary. Put them in prison for sedition!!!
    http://www.breitbart.com/video/2018/02/18/ag-jeff-sessions-michael-flynn-leak-investigated-aggressively/

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19. 

    Scenes

    19 February 2018

    Mary Wanna: “indoor hobby gardeners”
    At the very least I would expect a disclosure on the indoor agriculture to any prospective buyer of the house. I can imagine the mold problems you would see with anything beyond a plant or three.
    I suppose that the main problem with home marijuana growing is the riff-raff level that people would expect in that neighborhood. It’s not an entirely unfair characterization.

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    Bill Tozer

    19 February 2018

    Scenes,
    Oh, I gotta cut Mary Wanna some slack, not to diminish the seriousness of toxic mold to the basement dwellers and future homeowners. Nay, MW just is feeling deep anxiety this morning. Probably something to do with the parade yesterday.
    This explains the ugliness here on the closed “civil discussion about growing marijuana” comments. It is a pheunomn that dates back many moons and is most interesting to observe. In fact, we witnessed this widespread mystery since Nov 10, 2016….er….make that we are still witnessing and documenting the outbreak.
    https://www.deseretnews.com/article/808146/Outbreak-at-school-is-blamed-on-hysteria.html

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21. 

    Todd Juvinall

    19 February 2018

    Old fart George Boardman ripped LaMalfa and those tightwad Republicans today. Jealous I guess. Funny how the left wants to confiscate the money of Americans that are successful and give it to the “poor” without any strings. The great divide.

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22. 

    Russ Steele

    19 February 2018

    Scientists warn of unusually cold Sun . . .
    A study by the University of California San Diego has claimed that by 2050, the Sun is expected to become cool. You might think “what’s the big deal,” but remember that this means the solar activities that create the heat of the Sun to sustain life on Earth may diminish. And the last time it happened was in the 17th century when the Thames River froze. Scientists call this the “Maunder Minimum”.
    Physicist Dan Lubin at the university and his team studied the past event and concluded that we are in for a worse case. The Sun is expected to get much dimmer than last time and, in scientific terms, it is a “grand minimum” — a time period in the 11-year solar cycle when the solar activities are at the lowest point.
    According to the study, titled Ultraviolet Flux Decrease Under a Grand Minimum from IUE Short-wavelength Observation of Solar Analogs and published in the journal Astrophysical Journal Letters, this grand minimum will be 7 percent cooler than such periods from the past.
    Full article is HERE.
    http://www.ibtimes.co.in/scientists-warn-unusually-cold-sun-will-we-face-another-ice-age-759865

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23. 

    Mary Wanna

    19 February 2018

    Bill, I see you are confused by my last post. The ‘civil’ thread was closed down because SAD Todd and Paul ‘fake newsman’ were trading insults, what else is new?
    That has nothing to do with any public discourse anywhere else.
    Fear mongers are now talking mold issue disclosures. Double standard. What about all the shade tree mechanics dumping motor oil and homeowner painters dumping solvents into the backyard of their rental or personal real estate. Nothing new here.
    Scenes does not believe a homeowner can protect his or her property from water damage if they grow their legal 6 plant allotment?

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    Bill Tozer

    19 February 2018

    @ 8:28 am
    Oh Todd, at least old fart Boardman is consistent. He is just keeping the ole evil eye on us because he just knows we want to take away his food stamps and cut off his healthcare…..leaving him to die in torment and obscurity.
    Food stamps and care packages.
    Before and after the Great Depression, and going into the Dust Bowl, there were no food stamps. Think it was Hoover who believed it would be a slippery slope for Government to give out food. Open a pandora’s box. So, the government gave seed packets to the Red Cross or the like, which in turn distributed them to families with a plot of land, I.e., poor hungry deplorables. The seeds were greatly appreciated by some. Guess folks were more patient then, before the age of instant gratification.
    So, the Trump USDA is looking for ways to save money. Buy food wholesale, send it to SNAP receiptants, and more bang for the buck cause people buy food with SNAP at retail. Send them a big box of food in lieu of half (50%) of one’s monthly allotment, food stamps and put the other half on the ET? Card.
    I oppose. Just an idea being kicked around. No chips, no candy bars, just meat and potatoes stuff. Rice and beans, beans and rice. A box of staples assumes people actually spend time preparing meals…cooking. Then there are the shipping costs, which will be good for the USPO which will be given the contract. It’s in the mail.
    There are a lot of “displaced” on food stamps. Soaking beans overnight or slow steaming/cooking omg brown rice ain’t going to happen. Not even take-bake for some.
    https://www.facebook.com/RowdyConservatives/photos/a.217983685002343.55586.217926015008110/1259867574147277/?type=3&theater
    Sure. This will be great for farmers….or should I say evil BigAg Doug La Mafia, eh city boy?
    https://www.facebook.com/RowdyConservatives/photos/a.217983685002343.55586.217926015008110/1259867574147277/?type=3&theater

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25. 

    Todd Juvinall

    19 February 2018

    BillT, you crack me up. LOL!

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26. 

    George Rebane

    19 February 2018

    MaryW 856am – Ms Wanna, this time you miss so many points that it is embarrassing to respond if we consider that you are an educated adult, however, the source of your education may help mitigate matters.
    First, let me dissuade you from the notion that there exist policy issues that cannot be discussed on RR to the fullest extent possible. Your bringing up the well-known MJ odor nuisance is such an issue.
    Second, you either don’t read well or seek to substitute snark for a well-formed comment. I made it clear that the reason I closed the commentary’s comment stream is that commenters ceased discussing the MJ ordinance topic and reverted to ad hominem mud-slinging. For those who still read, the record of that dissonant thread is still there for inspection and assessment.
    Finally, the MJ ordinance topic will continue to be discussed here long and hard, as it should be. Everyone’s views on the topic, including yours, are always welcome sans the degeneration into name calling, or disparaging someone because they happened to support a position or a defeated initiative. Stick to the merits of your arguments, and do your best to understand and/or explain why ‘this is like that’ or ‘this is not like that’. There already exist nuisance odor regulations/codes/laws. Your equating America’s traditional and culturally embedded neighborhood BBQ smells with the stench of MJ is more than somewhat gratuitous, and it needs an expanded support argument. Are you qualified to formulate such an argument?
    And as a matter of online semantics, posted topics that welcome comments are followed by ‘comment streams’ – the entire sequence of comments that are displayed below a post. However, any given comment stream may consist of one or more ‘comment threads’ – comments, often interlaced with other comment threads, that focus on a specific topic or sub-topic which attracts interested commenters who enter and leave the thread at will. Therefore, taxonomically a single comment stream can have multiple threads – bottom line, don’t confuse ‘streams’ with ‘threads’
    On RR I have tried to enforce the policy that under my commentaries, when an ad hominem thread develops and dominates the stream, then I close the stream to save readers from having to wade through crap in hopes of finally discovering someone again saying something cogent. To provide a vehicle (receptacle?) for the crap, among other legitimate topics not covered or yet to be covered, RR provides sandboxes, such as the present one, which allow commenters so disposed to vent.

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27. 

    Don Bessee

    19 February 2018

    The worm turns?
    In his revised standing order issued on Friday, Sullivan dropped a lengthy footnote, detailing the case law and setting forth his position that, if material exculpatory evidence is withheld during plea negotiations, a defendant is entitled to withdraw his guilty plea.
    Flynn’s attorneys now know what to do should Mueller’s team disclose such evidence. After the spanking Sullivan gave the prosecutors in the Stevens case, Mueller is on notice as well.
    http://thefederalist.com/2018/02/19/michael-flynns-plea-reversal-uncover-federal-corruption/
    😉

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28. 

    Bill Tozer

    19 February 2018

    Oh Mary, Mary, quite contrary:
    Fear mongers now talking toxic mold? What, one commentator? Two? I know a standing house right now (vacant) that the only real solution to the toxic mold is to burn it to the ground. Got out of control. Don’t want those spores anywhere in the neighborhood if they try to tear it down and haul it away.
    Best way to get rid of nuisance cars is to have the County EPA folks come over and probe for a drop of anti-freeze. That how they shut down the old backyard junk yards in our neck of the woods. Placer County got rid of too many cars parked in the front yard that way. Heck, remember when People’s Mountain Warehouse had like 2 gallons or maybe it was 2 1/2 quarts of anti-freeze spill. Made the front page of the Union more than just for a day or three, the Rapid Response Team dispatched, place taped off like a crime scene, lol.
    Remember the anti-freeze in the dog food from China? Or was that lead paint on toddlers’ toys? They took the guy who ran the factory and executed him the next day for embarrsssing the Socialist Maoist State. Anti-freeze is bad juju, but toxic mold is 93 times worse.

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29. 

    fish

    19 February 2018

    Somewhere an old man cries in his popcorn…..
    

    How A Plea Reversal From Michael Flynn Could Uncover More Federal Corruption

    http://thefederalist.com/2018/02/19/michael-flynns-plea-reversal-uncover-federal-corruption/

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30. 

    Walt

    19 February 2018

    I guess “Mary”, missed my posts of personal dealings with renting to a “few plants” grower. Care to hear the horror story “Mary”? Care to hear how much damage was done?
    If you OWN the property, that’s one thing. Then the property damage is your own problem.
    Renters should be barred from from growing. Unless a bond is put up.

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31. 

    Russ Steele

    19 February 2018

    BAD NEWS FOR COMEY, MCCABE, STRZOK, ET. AL.: Attorney General Jeff Sessions told Fox News’ Maria Bartiromo that the Department of Justice is investigating the FBI’s failure to notify the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act (FISA) court that its warrant application to surveil Trump campaign volunteer Carter Page was based on material paid for by Hillary Clinton and the Democratic National Committee. As of noon Monday, this fact appears not to have been reported by either the New York Times or the Washington Post.
    When do the perp walks start?

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32. 

    Walt

    19 February 2018

    http://dailycaller.com/2018/02/19/michael-moore-russian-anti-trump-rally/
    Love it when Proggys get used like a rented mule.

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33. 

    Bill Tozer

    19 February 2018

    Boy, remember when Citizen Trump said he could pick anyone out of the audience, give them 23 or 27 million dollars, and that person would have higher poll numbers than Low Energy Jeb? Zinger. Well, the Russians took two million smackers and hired 90 bored devil’s workshop folks, and made Trump’s statement about Jeb look like Putin handing Trump a can and telling him to hold his beer. The easily offended are easily manpliulated. Mass hysteria, fueled by a billion dollars fanning the flames by Soros and Associates. Project Veritas ring a bell? They smelled blood and the feeding frenzy began.
    Truly amazing that Trump stood up to the Rooskies, the Obama Deep Administrative State, the One World Order folks, foreign agents from Great Britain to St. Petersburg, and of course, the Vast Clinton Machine and it’s Leftist MSM Industrial Complex subsidiary. One little old man with no friends, no polling, no suragates or operatives…..just a thin blood vessel with a soapbox and a Twitter Machine. When surrounded you can shot in any direction and hit something.
    Meuller is on notice. A no knock pre-dawn raid on Manafort’s 1800 sq.ft condo, throwing the Mrs. on the ground in her nightly, guns pointed at her head….and still they are batting 000.00. Zero is a nice round number. Comey lied. Remember his meeting with Meuller for a full day before Comey testified to Congress? That raised the first flag with me. There have been a few more since.

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34. 

    Bill Tozer

    19 February 2018

    Michael Moore should start a Metoo hashtag……Me too was used as a Russian tool, lol. A lefty in house version of Air America.
    Back to important stuff like new CA and Canadian penalties for assuming one’s gender. Heck, when Pelosi’s grandson cried cocadile tears because he wished he too could be a little brown skinned Latinx, well, he could of/should of have just identified as one. Problem solved. Nancy isn’t as quick as she once was.
    Next.

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35. 

    Paul Emery

    19 February 2018

    George
    You should be p[leased that in at least one state th e problem of Gerrymandering seems to have been dealt with.
    https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/pennsylvania-new-map_us_5a8b2cb6e4b0a1d0e12c1287

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    George Rebane

    19 February 2018

    PaulE 1259pm – my pleasure will come when I see the utility function the court used to redraw the district boundaries. It is complex problem on which I have commented, and which you may want to get informed lest we start prematurely celebrating Simple Simon solutions. The notion that there are any ‘absolutely objective’ district boundaries is naive – they intrinsically will favor one side or the other. To date these have always been (re)drawn by the party in power to favor itself. Today the Dems (and their lackeys) are teaching the neurochallenged (love that term) that only the Repubs gerrymander. This will get you some perspective –
    https://www.cato-unbound.org/print-issue/2285

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    Paul Emery

    19 February 2018

    Of course the Dems do it as well but this is a start. the State has to deal with it since the Supremes turned it down.

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    George Rebane

    19 February 2018

    PaulE 136pm – Always good to see that the districts get more compact and include people whose geography gives them some common interests in their day-to-day lives. Do you believe that the states should settle this at their level, or should there be a federal mandate as to how districts should be drawn?

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    Paul Emery

    19 February 2018

    I always defer to States over Feds if it’s possible. what’s your view?

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40. 

    George Rebane

    19 February 2018

    PaulE 338pm – Agreed, “if it’s possible”.

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41. 

    Todd Juvinall

    19 February 2018

    My read of the Constitution is it is up to the states to determine this.

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42. 

    Bill Tozer

    19 February 2018

    Meuller tightening the noose.
    https://www.facebook.com/lastamericapatriots/photos/a.235087906641439.1073741826.235086849974878/1002617323221823/?type=3&theater

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43. 

    Bill Tozer

    19 February 2018

    Opps, almost forgot. I would be amiss on Presidents Day to not remind our fellow commentators who their President is: Donald John Trump.
    Happy Presidents‘ Day.

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44. 

    Don Bessee

    19 February 2018

    Another left wing administrations accomplishments-
    https://www.nbcbayarea.com/news/local/Diseased-Streets-472430013.html
    I can testify! 😉

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45. 

    Todd Juvinall

    19 February 2018

    My response to the Bednars attack on McClintock in the Union.
    More propaganda from the left. McCarthy was found to be right after the fall of the USSR but of course his tactics were not so sweet. The democrats were all in for sympathy for the commies up until they fell apart in 1989. So the commies saw a spot to move to and Gorby became a “environmentalist” Go green, go commie.
    McClintock is a true valuable American representaive. If he did not serve in the military he joins Obama and Bernie and Clinton in that. Have I seen you try and shut them up by calling them names? Nope.
    The tax reform will benefit middle class Americans and is already doing so. The left simply thinks all money is theirs and they “let” us keep some once in a while. Republicans know the money is ours. Big difference.
    Koch Brothers? They are mostly libertarian and did not endorse Trump. And they are truly all-American. They make billions becasue they are smart businessmen and employ hundreds of thousands of fellow citizens. How many employees do you have bub?

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46. 

    Bill Tozer

    19 February 2018

    Add a couple more to the #Metoo@michaelmoore list. Popinjays one and all. Putin cuddlers for sure.
    https://www.newsbusters.org/blogs/nb/rich-noyes/2018/02/19/flashback-cnn-and-msnbcs-enthusiastic-coverage-russian-sponsored-anti

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47. 

    Bill Tozer

    19 February 2018

    Olympics.
    https://www.facebook.com/RowdyConservatives/photos/a.254420818025296.63999.217926015008110/1261076174026417/?type=3&theater
    Fakenews Olympics
    https://www.facebook.com/RowdyConservatives/photos/a.217983685002343.55586.217926015008110/1261782770622424/?type=3&theater

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48. 

    Bill Tozer

    19 February 2018

    They are looking for more money to fund their foolishness.
    http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2018/02/19/california-cities-and-crazy-climate-change-lawsuits-do-as-say-not-as-do.html

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49. 

    Don Bessee

    20 February 2018

    Well that makes me feel safer-
    https://yubanet.com/regional/nevada-county-voting-safe-from-russian-hacks-says-clerk-recorder/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+YubanetRegional+%28YubaNet.com+-+Sierra+Nevada+News%29
    😉

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50. 

    Bill Tozer

    20 February 2018

    Re: Susan Rice CYA selfie e-mail.
    Aha! Jan. 5th, 2017 is a date that reappears again.
    “9. Was President Obama briefed on any information contained in the dossier prior to January 5, 2017?”
    http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/byron-york-devin-nunes-10-questions-about-the-trump-dossier/article/2649499

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