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Sandbox – 30jan18

30 January 2018

[The old one is full, and this one will probably invite a lot on tonight's POTUS' SOTUS. I plan to post a separate SOTUS entry in due course, and encourage you to bridge your conversation threads to the comment stream of that entry, for all the obvious reasons. gjr]

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113 responses to “Sandbox – 30jan18”

Bill Tozer

31 January 2018

@11:21am
Finally skimmed one of your links. Did not see Sessions weighing in, which would make sense (to moi) since AG Sessions has recused himself from anything dealing with Russiagate. The FISA request deals with Russia and a Russian spy.
“FBI Director Christopher Wray and Attorney General Jeff Sessions, both Trump appointees have grave concerns about releasng the Nunes Memo.”
Maybe you meant DOJ officials, aka, the deputies.

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Bill Tozer

31 January 2018

PS: From your link. He swings and misses. Strike two and 7/16.
Asked if the Justice Department backed the FBI’s position, a department spokesperson noted that the FBI is part of DOJ, and did not immediately respond to a follow-up question. A spokesperson for Mueller’s office declined to comment.

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MAGA CoVfefe!

31 January 2018

GOP train to WELL EARNED retreat at The Greenbriar,,, I wonder who is footing the bill for their little VACAY???
http://www.greenbrier.com/HomePage-Sub-Pages/Packages-Offers

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Bill Tozer

31 January 2018

Too bad they took Amtrak to get there.

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Scenes

31 January 2018

The Future of Team Blue
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joe_Kennedy_III#/media/File:Joe_Kennedy_III,_115th_official_photo.jpg
I mean, seriously. I sense no gravitas in this man.
Any political movement basing it’s future on Pelosi/Warren/Kennedy is screwed. Perhaps there’s some hope for Western Culture after all.

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Scenes

31 January 2018

“GOP train to WELL EARNED retreat at The Greenbriar,,, I wonder who is footing the bill for their little VACAY???”
Bummer that the train hit a truck, huh? I can just feel the sadness pour forth from ‘MAGA CoVfefel’.

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Bill Tozer

31 January 2018

For those who did not see or follow the SOTUS, a summary with quotes from the horse’s mouth.
But there was no sense of unity forthcoming from the Democrats.
Within minutes of the SOTU conclusion, a fundraising email from Democrat National Committee chairman Tom Perez hit my inbox with this declaration: “Let me be very clear about something: We can stop the terrible, divisive agenda that Trump laid out tonight in his State of the Union — but only if we take back Congress this year.”
https://patriotpost.us/alexander/53841

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Paul Emery

31 January 2018

The DOJ is under sessions so it would have to have his OK. Besides Trump says this has nothing yo do wityh Russia probe.

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Scenes

31 January 2018

“The DOJ is under sessions so it would have to have his OK. Besides Trump says this has nothing yo do wityh Russia probe.”
English, do you speak it?

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George Rebane

31 January 2018

Administrivia – please continue collecting your Nunes memo comments under the proper commentary. Thanks.
http://rebaneruminations.typepad.com/rebanes_ruminations/2018/01/the-invisible-nunes-memo.html

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Bill Tozer

31 January 2018

Scenes.
Gregory nailed it last night with his 10:32 pm. Sometimes I wonder if Gregory has a drop or two of Deplorable blood pumping through his veins. Gravitas!
——Not a great meme, but I loved the gifs and comments.
https://www.facebook.com/RowdyConservatives/photos/a.217983685002343.55586.217926015008110/1249186478548720/?type=3&theater
——— Don’t see no gravitas here, either.
https://www.facebook.com/RowdyConservatives/photos/a.217983685002343.55586.217926015008110/1248636868603681/?type=3&theater

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MAGA CoVfefe!

31 January 2018

Scenes,,,
”’Instant Karma’s gonna get you
Gonna knock you right on the head”’ Lennon

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MAGA CoVfefe!

31 January 2018

SOTU,,, more bla bla bla about THE GREAT WALL!!!
What about ”’blood gold”’???
http://www.miamiherald.com/news/nation-world/world/americas/article194362569.html

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Bill Tozer

31 January 2018

Scenes again….@ 12:09.
Yep, that was the first thing that crossed by mind as well. I now deeply regret even posting my one-liner about Amtrak. That was when I heard about the truck involved and injuries, but, unfonuatelty, before I heard the cemet truck driver was killed.
—-Dr Rebane
Mea Culpa. Please removed my comment: Posted by: Bill Tozer | 31 January 2018 at 12:03 PM
I do not wish to take away from the family of the deceased in this tragic and difficult time for them. Please.
Thank you.

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Scenes

31 January 2018

re: Mr Maga@12:39PM
Perhaps it happened to Lennon himself, or JFK.
The Logos has it’s own way of dealing with things.
The river of dirty gold, drugs, or politics tells us that perhaps we should be more separated from Latin America. The Wall is only a partial solution, but is not unnecessary.

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George Rebane

31 January 2018

For your enjoyment, I took part in a futile exchange at Bob Crabb’s place here – http://www.rlcrabb.com/history-2/some-things-never-change/

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Paul Emery

31 January 2018

Trump is aiding the Mexican drug dealers by doing NOTHING about the opiate epidemic which kills a hundred times more American citizens than terrorism of immigrants.

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Bonnie McGuire

31 January 2018

President Trump’s state of the union speech was the best I’ve watched since Reagan. Even better because of the recognition given to ordinary people who experienced, overcame and achieved something special. Like President Trump, Abraham Lincoln also said that America (because of its Constitution) was a place where ordinary people could achieve their dreams. President Trump obviously knows who create the health and wealth of America’s economy, and is actively working for and with we the people. What a contrast watching the show time sour grapes faces of Senator Pelosi and friends who only care about money and power for themselves. It’s kind of humorous in that they definitely appear to be anti-Americans carrying on their destructive war within this country for many years.
Here’s the entire text of the President’s speech you can read.
http://dailysignal.com/2018/01/30/read-president-trumps-state-of-the-union-address/

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Scenes

31 January 2018

Saint Paul sez: “Trump is aiding the Mexican drug dealers by doing NOTHING about the opiate epidemic”
Oh, just be quiet you silly little turd.
The DOJ has about a million regulations, efforts, and rules on opiates. There’s a fine line between those who really really need the things to just get by and those who abuse them.
Try working in that world, assuming you’ve ever had a real job, and you’ll see what I mean.
Inventing a set of rules for handing them out is a tricky thing.

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Gregory

31 January 2018

The “America First” toon reproduced at Crabb’s is a real misappropriation. Gerard LK Smith, the “America First” party presidential “nominee”, got a whopping 1,700+ votes in 1944. He was denounced as among “professional anti-Semites and lunatic nationalists” by the Anti-Defamation League in the 1950’s. A real “Denier”, he claimed the Holocaust never happened and the six million missing Jews were moved to the USA during WWII.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/America_First_Party_(1944)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gerald_L._K._Smith
No RL, those people are not seen at every Tea Party/GOP event, and the whole country said “Ugh!” to his campaign.
Earl keeps reaching for the baseless cheap shots, as does his BFF Chris Peterson. Crabb’s blog is a verifiable echo chamber now.

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Paul Emery

31 January 2018

terrorism OR immigrant

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Todd Juvinall

31 January 2018

Paul Emery | 31 January 2018 at 01:19 PM
Could you not find anything to praise from his speech? You are simply unimportant and your opinions have become so reliable for derision you appear deranged. Opiates certainly are killing a lot of people and it must be Trump stuffing the pills down their throats. I suggest your pals that love the dope are the reason there is a market for the death pills. And we will see more now that the voters of Califonia agreed with you drug pushers about MJ.

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Todd Juvinall

31 January 2018

Regarding Crabb and his ilk writing about the signs at Tea Party rallies and claiming some sort of racial and moral superiority. Makes me laugh my ass off. Crabb is a racist and so is Frisch and Peterson. They try their best to blame others and deflect from their own foibles but they cannot make that work. They are projecting their own shortcomings onto others and Crabb just makes crap up. What a joke he is.

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Gregory

31 January 2018

Todd, I think you should stop using “ilk” in your postings; you just don’t have the knack.

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Todd Juvinall

31 January 2018

Oh I do have the knack. You should leave well enough alone.

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Todd Juvinall

31 January 2018

Gregory, chew on this. It is being used correctly.
ilk
ilk/
noun
noun: ilk
a type of people or things similar to those already referred to.
“the veiled suggestions that reporters of his ilk seem to be so good at”
synonyms: type, sort, class, category, group, set, breed, strain, bracket, genre, make, model, kind, brand, vintage, stamp, style, family, variety
“a film of this ilk comes packaged with a fair deal of violence”

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Bonnie McGuire

31 January 2018

The America First Committee (AFC) was organized in September 1940 to oppose America`s potential intervention in World War II. Its best known leader was Charles Lindbergh. He’d attended the Pacific Conference and felt those involved didn’t care about America, but were using us. He thought Russia was more of a threat. The propaganda was pretty intense. Years ago I read his Wartime Journals. It was really interesting….1000 pages of narrative, that takes the reader from March, 1938 to June, 1945. A detailed personal record of events from the time of the German invasion of Austria to Lindbergh’s visits to postwar Europe’s ruined cities.
https://www.americanheritage.com/content/wartime-journals-charles-liondbergh

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Gregory

31 January 2018

Todd, it wasn’t a question of your grammar. It’s like a kid writing a term paper or answering an exam question and running out of things to say about a person or issue, and using “et cetera” to intimate they have more to say.
If you think he’s placeable on the list of synonyms you copied above, name it specifically, don’t just bloody well hope we’ll pick the one you’re thinking of. “Ilk” doesn’t cut it; it’s a cheat otherwise.

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Paul Emery

31 January 2018

So Trump gets off the hook Scenes because, as you put it
“Inventing a set of rules for handing them out is a tricky thing.”
Here’s the numbers
“More than 64,000 drug overdose deaths estimated in 2016, the sharpest increase occurred among deaths related to fentanyl and fentanyl analogs (synthetic opioids) with over 20,000 overdose deaths.” Source: CDC WONDER
Care to estimate the number of deaths in this country from Terrorism or illegal immigrants? Give it a try. There have been only 32 Deaths from terrorism since 9-11.
If Trump wants to “Make America Great Again” why not give more than a token effort to opiate and related substances abuse deaths. The States are crying out for help and have received little increase in financial assistance from Trump.
“If you look at Trump’s actions, well, it’s a very different story. There has been no move by Trump’s administration to actually spend more money on the opiate crisis. Key positions in the administration remain unfilled, even without nominees in the case of the White House’s drug czar office and the Drug Enforcement Administration (DEA). And although the administration’s emergency declaration was renewed this month, it has led to essentially no action since it was first signed — no significant new resources, no major new initiatives.”
https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2018/1/23/16909984/trump-opioid-epidemic-2017

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Mary Wanna

31 January 2018

Posted by: Gregory | 31 January 2018 at 02:00 PM – Trump’s appropriation of “America First” would seem to predate Crabb’s. The “lunatic nationalist” sure describes Trump.
While China gina and many of our trading partners are making all kinds of trade agreements, Trump is taking our marbles and going home.
We will see how that plays out long term. Sounds to me like we are going backwards, but I guess all that buddy buddy international trading is the stuff of Agenda 21.

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George Rebane

31 January 2018

BonnieM 308pm – Happy to hear that you also read Lindbergh’s wartime journals; that was one hell of an enlightenment for me. Lindbergh was a man totally misunderstood after 1 September 1939 by most people in power, and even those considering themselves educated. The man was self-made and a selfless American patriot.

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Todd Juvinall

31 January 2018

Gregory | 31 January 2018 at 03:13 PM
Don’t care. I’ll do my thing my way and if it troubles you then don’t read my stuff. Funny how a person thinks they always know better than others about the others.

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Todd Juvinall

31 January 2018

Paul Emery | 31 January 2018 at 03:19 PM
Actually, Paul Emery, it is the attitude you have along with your ilk that is the cause of drug overdoses. MJ is a gateway drug to worse and since you state you are a “libertarian” about what a person can do with their own body perhaps you personally are the reason there are drug OD’s. Think about your own part of this scourge and leave Trump alone. He neither smokes or drinks and does not so drugs. You should emulate him rather than disparate him and his lifestyle choices.

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Mary Wanna

31 January 2018

Do we need to create some definitions here: Recreational Opiates (RO) and Medicinal Opiates (MO)?
RO gets all the publicity. If MO use is up it is because a large percentage of the population is aging and more people are trying to manage pain.

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L

31 January 2018

Just got home from Krazy Kali, so this is a mite late. The late Republic to our east also has a county named Deaf Smith, tho the folks there pronounce it “deef”. For your trivia collection.
L

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Bill Tozer

31 January 2018

Speaking of recreational opiates, I see one optiate is friggin being passed out for free in the Chicago area as the direct result of Tax Reform. This kind of behavior would be outlawed in NYC.
https://article.wn.com/view/2018/01/31/Twinkie_makers_response_to_the_Trump_Tax_bonus_and_free_snac_o/

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George Rebane

31 January 2018

MaryW 432pm – good contribution Ms Wanna, let it henceforth be so.

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Paul Emery

31 January 2018

Todd
The majority of California and Nevada County voters voted to allow Recreational Marijuana to be legal. Do you also apply your 4;22 screed to all of them as well> I believe our host is on record to support Recreational Marijuana legalization as well. Correct me if I’m wrong George.

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Paul Emery

31 January 2018

Todd
do you support the right to use tobacco and drink alcoholic beverages?

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Todd Juvinall

31 January 2018

Paul Emery you are the self-proclaimed green-libertarian. You are the one who is constantly telling us that any substance one wishes to take is their business. Yet you cry that Trump is overlooking the “opiate” issue. So look in the mirror as it is you that is the hypocrite here, not I or Trump.
And as far as majority votes. I can certainly disagree with the issue but still support the process. Unlike your ilk that that did not do the same for the Prop 8 vores. So preach to some ignorant people and play those dopey head games you try somewhere else.

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Gregory

31 January 2018

Todd, henceforth, if I write “Todd and his ilk” take it to mean Todd and others who write like they are just out to score points, like Paul Emery and Keach.
Merry Juana 3:22
“- Trump’s appropriation of “America First” would seem to predate Crabb’s. The “lunatic nationalist” sure describes Trump.”
The “America First” party was neonazi, and your cheapening “lunatic nationalist” to describe Trump just shows you to be a lot like Michael P. Anderson who is given to such ugly rhetoric. Do you know him and his bullshit games?

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Bill Tozer

31 January 2018

Bonnie and Dr. Rebane
Last night was a most inspiring speech. After eight long years of being pushed aside into the darkness hearing the constant drumbeat that America is bad, our founding is bad, our founders are bad, our military is bad, our country, our flag,our culture, our borders, our patriots, our police, our thinking, our speech are all bad bad bad…..after 8 long dark years, last night finally someone came out and proclaimed to the World it is not only ok to love America, it’s great to love America.
I love America and America is great. Trump laid forth in too many ways to list here how and why America is exceptional and American Exceptionalism is a fact and is alive and thriving. I love my country, home of the brave.
My soul has been watered and my spirit revived. My whole being has been rejuvenated.
I will skip the specifics of Trumps address for another post.
I loved how Trump used Natural Law to tie it all in, from the man with crutches to the rotunda, Capital Building, the monuments to great men in DC, to the Capital City itself as the beacon of love of liberty that beats inside the breast of all men seeking to be free. The love of God, family, flag, and country. The love of America and pride of being an American.
Ours indeed is a righteous cause.

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Todd Juvinall

31 January 2018

Gregory | 31 January 2018 at 07:42 PM
I am honored. Thanks.

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George Rebane

31 January 2018

BillT 753pm – Hear, hear Mr Tozer!

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Gregory

31 January 2018

The Nunes memo to be released tomorrow.
Todd 806pm you and your ilk are so cute when putting up a false front.

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Russ

31 January 2018

State Of The Union: Trump And U.S. Democrats Ignore Global Warming Completely
SOTU: Trump Does Not Mention Global Warming Once
Global Warming Policy Forum, 31 January 2018
While President Donald Trump touted policies to make the U.S. into an energy superpower, his first State of the Union (SOTU) address to Congress left out a hallmark of Obama-era speeches. Trump’s address is the first in eight years to not refer to manmade global warming — nine years if you include former President Barack Obama’s 2009 address to Congress. Instead, Trump emphasized deregulation and boosting energy production — many of the regulations Trump rescinded were Obama-era global warming policies. –Michael Bastasch, The Daily Caller, 30 January 2018
Democrats Ignore Climate Change In State Of The Union Rebuttal
Huffington Post, 31 January 2018
The Democratic Party omitted any mention of climate change in its rebuttal Tuesday to President Donald Trump’s first State of the Union address. In his speech, Rep. Joe Kennedy (D-Mass.) didn’t bring up global warming, sea-level rise or the surge in global greenhouse gas emissions, which threaten to become worse as the Republican White House ramps up fossil fuel production to unprecedented levels. –Huffington Post, 31 January 2018
It snowed in Africa, global warming must be over.

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Bill Tozer

31 January 2018

Under the heading ‘A blind squirrel finds a nut’
“For years, the fundamental complaint of the right in the culture wars has been that the left is hypocritical, and the Nikki Haley episode perfectly confirms the point: A prominent Republican woman is smeared. The author who does the smearing is celebrated by all the A-listers, including the most prominent Democratic woman in the country, who herself has a history of giving a pass (or worse) to men accused of sexual assault and harassment. And yet the arbiters of American culture cheer the Democrat and, in the words of the actor Don Cheadle, tell the Republican who has the gall to defend herself: ‘Sit down, girl. You’re drunk.’” —New York Times’ Bari Weiss.

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Bill Tozer

31 January 2018

I have so proud of my country. I am so proud to be an American. I an so proud of how Trump articulated how making America is great for all Americans.
But, not all see it that way.
“When the president comes to make the State of the Union address, he will try to characterize his initiatives as something positive. But 2017 was a very bad year for the American people because of the failure on the part of the Republicans in Congress to get the job done.” —Nancy Pelosi
“President Trump was handed an already healthy economy by his predecessor. Like many things in his life, he inherited the healthy economy. … Obama created more jobs in the last year of his term than you created in the first year of yours. So if you’re going to pat yourself on the back, give a shout out to Barack Obama.” —Chuck Schumer
Time to look in the mirror: “While I am always willing to work with my colleagues across the aisle, the president’s call for bipartisanship and unity rings hollow. You cannot reject bipartisan plans to improve health care and protect Dreamers or sow hate and division — and then turn around the next day and say you want to work together.” —Sen. Kamala Harris
Oh my. And to think she taught a class. I believe that was one class too many.
“I went to the #SOTU. I wanted it burned into my eyes. If there’s ever a moment when I’m too tired to keep fighting, I just have to close my eyes & see [Donald Trump], [Mike Pence] & [Paul Ryan] applauding themselves for punching working families in the gut, & I’m back in this fight.” —Elizabeth Warren raging over the fact that Americans can now keep more of their money
“President Trump said the word ‘America’ more than 80 times in his speech. Yet, after a divisive first year, we hear and feel how exclusionary that ‘America’ is, with policies that have harmed so many vulnerable American communities. The ACLU stands ready to protect these communities, both in the courts and at the polls.” —ACLU national political director Faiz Shakir
And last, I include one “conservative” voice: “The Democrats certainly did themselves no favors by refusing to applaud job growth and higher wages.” —Jonah Goldberg

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Bill Tozer

01 February 2018

I remember when incoming First Lady “elect” Michelle Obama said it was first time in her life she is proud of her country. That comment generated a lot of heat. In a way, I can relate. After Tuesday night’s SOTUA, it was the first time in awhile that I felt great pride in my country. Pride. Great pride. Swelling pride.
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There is something fundamentally wrong with holding illegal aliens in higher esteem, higher regard, and honored more than our own children and our fellow citizens. Law abiding citizens do not have sanctuary cities because law abiding folks do not need sanctuary cities.

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Todd Juvinall

01 February 2018

Gregory | 31 January 2018 at 09:21 PM
Thanks for the notice. False front? No that would be others. I am 100% real. And unlike others that just blather I actually am in the trenches working for my beliefs. You?

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