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Sandbox – 14jan18

14 January 2018

[Time for some fresh sand as we defocus from the SHC affair. gjr]

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221 responses to “Sandbox – 14jan18”

Scenes

18 January 2018

Just because I love this kind of thing……
Bitconnect.
https://www.bloomberg.com/amp/news/articles/2018-01-17/crypto-lending-site-s-shutdown-renews-ponzi-scheme-allegations
https://techcrunch.com/2018/01/16/bitconnect-which-has-been-accused-of-running-a-ponzi-scheme-shuts-down/amp/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1YCVZPBhrjQ

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Walt

18 January 2018

Scenes… Not one bit surprised.
Check out the graphs. Pretty much carbon copies of losses and gains.
https://coinmarketcap.com/
Just the dollar values are different.
Was watching this yearteday.

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Scenes

18 January 2018

re: Walt
Well, it was an 83% drop instead of the 10% Bitcoin drop.
I appreciate the concept of Bitcoin, although it’s inherently deflationary if it had a monopoly. OTOH, there can be an infinite number of cryptocurrencies.
It seems to me, and it’s maybe just my age, that someone should invent Goldcoin. Get the UAE (or a precious metals dealer in Singapore) to invent a currency with a 1:1 metal backing and then use the cryptocurrency mechanism for doing transactions. Until the speculators move on and people simply use this stuff to buy and sell it’s all just a minefield.
George, let’s go into business and do Goldcoin.

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Don Bessee

18 January 2018

A lunch snack for the po’ ol’ fakenewsman from Tom Browkaw-
“On the other hand, Democrats going into this year, if you’re looking at what they’re talking about right now, they think all they have to do is show up, and they are going to get the congressional majority back again. They better have a plan. And the plan is not to go hard left, by the way, the way they’re going to be led by Elizabeth Warren or Bernie Sanders. They’ve got to have a scheme that addresses the old Democratic middle, people who are the working class Democrats. And unless they get to the that they can get beat.”
😉

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Scenes

18 January 2018

re: DonB@1:21PM
“And the plan is not to go hard left, by the way,”
So far as I can tell, the Democratic platform is:
. Trump claimed that he could grab pussies at one time.
. Trump’s factotums might have talked to a Russian
. Trump might have seen a Russian hooker.
. Trump might have seen an American hooker.
. Trump might be too fat
. Trump might have Alzheimer’s.
. Trump might wear a wig.
. Trump might have fired a black worker once.
. Trump might have have had sketchy taxes sometime in the last 30 years.
. Trump might have his polls go up and down
lol. I mean, seriously, just read Saint Paul’s BS on this forum. it’s essentially the opposite of a philosophy, platform, or set of policies.
The thing is, a lot of Americans are as dumb as your average Green Libertarian, so it’s probably enough to give a campaign a go.

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Scenes

18 January 2018

re: also DonB
This picture from the last campaign pretty much sums up a modern Democrat. A perv and his untalented progeny (who might not be related to him at all). I laugh every time I see it.
http://www.2016election.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/10/trump-debate-bill-clinton.jpg

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George Rebane

18 January 2018

Scenes 148pm – excellent summary Mr Scenes, and oh so true. And your 114pm proposal is something to ponder seriously, save that the governments and central bankers will go ballistic. They would send out their hit squads to squash anything that facilitates the ability to use blockchain transmitted gold as money, and since backing a ‘cryptocurrency’ by gold would just make it an untraceable proxy for gold-based transactions.

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George Rebane

18 January 2018

Re Trump and ‘border security’ – here’s more proof that the president has been speaking about border porosity when he uses the proxy term “the wall”.
https://www.wsj.com/articles/as-shutdown-nears-trump-says-the-wall-is-the-wall-1516287479
I concur that ‘wall’ is an unfortunate placeholder for the more sophisticated set of technologies all reasonable people, including Trump, understand that will be used to bring border porosity down to an acceptable level. But the lightly read, the plain stupid, and the president’s cynical political opponents will continue drumming the concept of a contiguous border wall into the national mind, such as it is. There is no shame among the liars and bamboozlers taking advantage of the disadvantaged.

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Scenes

18 January 2018

re: GR@2:18PM
…also, it would rather violate the concept of cryptocurrency as decentralized. The gold storage itself would represent a kind of weakness.
OTOH, the mechanism is a pretty good one for transactions, failing some advancement in decryption.
The funny thing is that you could start by merely viewing it as a form of gold (or silver) ETF since Goldcoin could be marketed to a buy/hold crowd.

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George Rebane

18 January 2018

scenes 233pm – decentralization of Goldcoin could be achieved by the participation of several repositories for the metal, each having to derive some compensation for its handling and storage on some pro rata basis. And the ETF version would only work if its shares transfers would utilize blockchains. Lots of stuff to set up, and someone has to make a profit from all the effort.

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Scenes

18 January 2018

“and someone has to make a profit from all the effort.”
Oh well, funny thing. That’s always the thing, TANSTAAFL. I believe that Bitcoin miners currently get the transaction cost credited to them.
In any case, no doubt this notion is in no way original. What it would take is to have someone with the metal in-house, perhaps one of those precious metal storage facilities that charges rent, and out of country to hire some technical help to buy and sell from their stock using that kind of mechanism. Trust will always be an issue of course.

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Walt

18 January 2018

The state threatening employers now? Well, well… The state wants to play hardball.
http://www.breitbart.com/california/2018/01/18/california-ag-we-will-prosecute-employers-who-cooperate-with-federal-immigration-officials/

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Don Bessee

18 January 2018

Its time for the po’ ol’ fakenewsman to throw out that rancid Russian dressing and get ready for the truth-
http://www.breitbart.com/video/2018/01/18/gop-rep-gaetz-calls-house-release-important-intelligence-document-goes-foundations-democracy-involves-fbi-doj-trump/
😉

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George Rebane

18 January 2018

re Walt 505pm – the interesting thing will be the grounds on which to prosecute employers which the scumbags will have to dig out and convince a corrupt judge or two.

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Walt

18 January 2018

Jerry and the kids may have some splain’n to do come election time.
One could only hope. Now I can’t wait for the FEDS to start locking up elected LIBS, for harboring fugitives.

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Don Bessee

18 January 2018

Dr. R @ 515- They have waaayyyy too many options for judge shopping in CA! 😉

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Scott Obermuller

18 January 2018

Enjoyable YouTube video. A rational intelligent white male against a left wing idiot.
There is so much there beyond the topic under discussion. The lefty is not able to process a straight forward conversation and constantly gets the points wrong.
The sad part is she represents a large part of what is now the sad state of academia and political thought. The most striking feature of her argument is that she is completely unable to separate his comments about what he sees as reality from his opinion of what he actually advocates.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=476&v=aMcjxSThD54

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Don Bessee

18 January 2018

This could help hold the house-
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2018/01/18/supreme-court-delays-order-requiring-north-carolina-to-redraw-election-maps.html
😉

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Don Bessee

18 January 2018

Funny the po’ ol’ fakenewsman isn’t talking about the smoking gun memo that is rocking DC. Team 0/shrillary for jail 2018. 😉

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Walt

18 January 2018

“O” may be looking for a country that don’t extradite.
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2018/01/18/gop-lawmakers-demand-alarming-memo-on-fisa-abuses-be-made-public.html

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Russ

18 January 2018

Common Core is dead, says Education Secretary Betsy DeVos:
U.S. Secretary of Education Betsy DeVos gave a far-ranging speech today in Washington at an American Enterprise Institute conference, “Bush-Obama School Reform: Lessons Learned.”
She announced the death of Common Core, at least in her federal agency.
“Unsurprisingly, nearly every state accepted Common Core standards and applied for hundreds of millions of dollars in “Race to the Top” funds. But despite this change, the United States’ PISA performance did not improve in reading and science, and it dropped in math from 2012 to 2015.
“Then, rightly, came the public backlash to federally imposed tests and the Common Core. I agree – and have always agreed – with President Trump on this: “Common Core is a disaster.” And at the U.S. Department of Education, Common Core is dead.”
Good!!

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Don Bessee

18 January 2018

Winning @ 632!
http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2018/01/18/white-house-homepage-features-first-couple-in-sistine-chapel-for-religious-freedom-day/
“No American Should Have to Choose Between Faith and the Law.”
God bless us one and all! 😉

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Scenes

18 January 2018

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-08-14/china-s-plan-for-world-domination-in-ai-isn-t-so-crazy-after-all
Replay of the Japanese Fifth Generation Computer project or valid plan for world domination.
Dunno.

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Don Bessee

18 January 2018

Wait, what? This dose of common sense bodes well for the midterms. Sorry ya po’ ol’ pollhead.
http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2018/01/18/poll-sixty-four-percent-americans-approve-work-requirements-medicaid/
😉

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Bill Tozer

18 January 2018

@ 8:01 pm
If a man will not work, he shall not eat.” That rule goes back a couple thousand years and also was the rule on the Mayflower as she was at sea. Work requirements apply to able bodied mostly single people of working age. Excludes college students any those enrolled in vocational schools or job training. 20 hours a week and time spent seeking employment and interview prep counts as hours worked.
But, let’s cut to the quick, shall we? The Lefties’ total opposition to all things Trump/Trump Administration/Republican (at all levels) coupled with the lack of any ideas or proposals reveals the abject bankruptcy of the Left.

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Bill Tozer

18 January 2018

Is debt talk gone with the wind? As Rand Paul.
“When I forced a vote recently on obeying the “pay as you go” rule, no Democrats, and only seven Republicans, joined me. Less than 10 percent of the Senate appears to actually care about the debt.”
http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/sen-rand-paul-the-debt-and-the-decline-of-empire/article/2646263
Hmmm. I remember when Nancy, after the close of a particular session of Congress, sited her proudest accomplishment of that session was her successful hard work on the passage of Pay Go.

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Scenes

19 January 2018

re: Work requirements for Medicaid / Medi-Cal.
As a practical matter, I just can’t see it. Poor people, especially the indigent and/or young, aren’t going to bother and will simply use the emergency room anyway. The hospital ends up paying the bill and either passes it on to people who pay or just eats the cost (and perhaps goes out of business).
https://insight.kellogg.northwestern.edu/article/who-bears-the-cost-of-the-uninsured-nonprofit-hospitals
In any case, the whole system is so broken that I’m fresh out of ideas.
Hey, I know. We’ll make it just like Denmark!!!

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Scenes

19 January 2018

re: ScottO@ 5:48PM and Jordan Peterson
Not a terrible article:
https://www.chronicle.com/article/What-s-So-Dangerous-About/242256
Although there was some talk on /pol about inventing a drinking game where you have to take a shot every time she sez: “SO YOU’RE SAYING THAT…”

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Scott Obermuller

19 January 2018

I had never heard of Jordan Peterson until yesterday. I can see why he’s become a lightning rod. Firm on principle and unwaveringly logical and calm. Doesn’t really matter what the topic of discussion is – he cuts right to the inherent BS and and unreality of the left and the damage it does in society.

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jon smith

19 January 2018

Don Bessee can you hear us now?!!
By unanimous vote there will be THREE cannabis centers in Nevada City and a fast moving plan to support a cannabis campus. Grass Valley is taking up the baton with a proposed recreational dispensary. Take your “just say no to anything I don’t like” attitude to Alabama and don’t let the door hit you in the arse.

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George Rebane

19 January 2018

From a casual perusal of liberal commenters’ admonitions over the years, it appears that the Left is also a proponent of the Great Divide as they encourage people of different opinions and viewpoints to emigrate and join with their like-minded.

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Bill Tozer

19 January 2018

Peterson:
To understand Peterson’s worldview, you have to see the connection between his opposition to gender-neutral pronouns and his obsession with the Soviet Union. He believes that the insistence on the use of gender-neutral pronouns is rooted in postmodernism, which he sees as thinly disguised Marxism. The imposition of Marxism led to the state-sponsored slaughter of millions. For Peterson, then, the mandated use of gender-neutral pronouns isn’t just a case of political correctness run amok. It’s much more serious than that. When he refers to the “murderous ideology” of postmodernism, he means it literally.

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jon smith

19 January 2018

GR 9:12 – Interesting commentary coming from an unabashed right wing propagandist. Replace “liberal” and “Left” in your pronouncement with “conservative” and “Right” and look in the mirror.

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Robert Cross

19 January 2018

Does anyone notice they aren’t deporting or hassling white people? People of color don’t often vote for pubbers so the idea is to get rid of them before they become citizens and can vote, which would all but eliminate popular vote loser Presidents like trump and Bush. It is all a ploy, combined with voter suppression and gerrymandering to keep the fossils in power indefinitely at the expense of working people and the planet. Any guess as to when trump will start making detainees take “showers” in the detention camps? #SAD

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fish

19 January 2018

Posted by: Robert Cross | 19 January 2018 at 09:30 AM
Waaahh…..waaaahhhhh…….whimper!
#bobbycancrawlbackintohiscasketuntiltomorrow

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Walt

19 January 2018

Hey Bobby.. That’s not true. If they catch a “white illegal,”
He/she goes home too. Know any?
Now march of to Aria 51 and demand the “aliens” that are there go back to where they came from too.
Thanks.

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Bill Tozer

19 January 2018

Unfun facts.
There are more unborn African American babies aborted in New York City today than there are African American births.
The last thing I would today (knowing what I know now and not knowing that I did know then) is to give any friend suffering with depression, bi-polar, or mild schizophrenia a hit off my recreational pot. Pot is an enhancer, nay a trigger for adverse reactions, not a calming smoothing tea for such folks.
Considering that experts have stated decade after decade that 10% of our population suffers from mental illness, which in the 90’s became 10-15%, and today is 15-20%, I have changed my tune significantly since the “do your own thang, let it all hang out” days.
I no longer believe recreational pot is benign and is not harmless by any stretch of the imagination for a growing percentage of our friends and neighbors and members of our community who may have a screw or two not snugged down tight. It ain’t for everybody and is throwing gas on the fire for those already predisposed to imbalance.
I threw out two topics above that you are free to use for ass wipe. But in my tiny andedotal world, it is becoming increasingly too lazy, too inconvenient, too painful not to look.

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Mary Wanna

19 January 2018

Posted by: George Rebane | 18 January 2018 at 02:31 PM
“But the lightly read, the plain stupid”; and, “There is no shame among the liars and bamboozlers taking advantage of the disadvantaged…”
I don’t know if it is deliberate but you are describing Trump and most of his saphead base.

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fish

19 January 2018

Posted by: Mary Wanna | 19 January 2018 at 10:00 AM
…still winning Michael!

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Mary Wanna

19 January 2018

Posted by: fish | 19 January 2018 at 10:01 AM
At least you don’t deny it. That is very progressive of you.

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Robert Cross

19 January 2018

little fishy.. you should add “to the detriment of America” to your “still winning” catch phrase. It seems that winning is more important for you than morals. #SAD

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Bill Tozer

19 January 2018

Walt @ earlier this lovely calm before the storm..
“Hey Bobby.. That’s not true. If they catch a “white illegal,”
He/she goes home too”
Well, we tried to get one whitie sent home packing, almost made it out of here, but the community uproar got her back. This was even after she impersonated someone else, lied to our police right in his face, provided false information, no to mention to think about if the insurance on the car she was driving would even cover the illegal if she got in an accident. Even Todd wanted the illegal white woman to stay here.
When you sign a visa, it clearly states you agree to forfeit all rights of appeal to deportion and you are automatically given the boot if you overstay your visa….even after 30 years.
So, Walt, I can name one. Some community asset gal from Lithuania or whatever that speck on the map is called. Where in the hell is Lithuania and did I spell it right? 🙂

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George Rebane

19 January 2018

MaryW 1000am – Not sure if your comment implies that you are among the enlightened, and have understood Trump to be talking about border porosity instead of a physical wall from the Pacific to Gulf. If it does, I’m heartened, and bid that you inform your like-minded so that they don’t continue making fools of themselves and/or being purposely cynical to fool those less enlightened.

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Bill Tozer

19 January 2018

Aha! Mystery solved. Lithuania is a district in Norway!!

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George Rebane

19 January 2018

jons 922am – what you miss Mr smith is that the conservetarians have already acknowledged the benefits of and the progress toward the Great Divide. My 912am points out that the Left appears to also promote achieving the Great Divide, but through selective migrations, which is NOT what their counterparts exhort. (Now that wasn’t too hard, was it?)

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fish

19 January 2018

Posted by: Robert Cross | 19 January 2018 at 10:18 AM
Excellent point bobby……because the first thing I think of when I think progressives and progressivism is morals.
(sigh…..RR used to get a much higher quality of virtue signaler/troll)

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Gregory

19 January 2018

Toes… I think the community asset white illegal wasn’t Lithuanian… rather… from the Duchy of Gran Fenwick?

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Mary Wanna

19 January 2018

GeorgeR 1024am – Yes, I understood that it would practically impossible in terms of time and money to literally build a wall from the Pacific to the Gulf; Trump voters obviously did not. But “the wall fantasy” is one of the reasons he is in office today.

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jon smith

19 January 2018

Pappydack is the up and coming social phenom. Watch out!

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Bill Tozer

19 January 2018

Amen Fish. Absolutely spot on. The trolls used to be of a much higher quality and quantity of life. Now, upon occasion, the good John can be forthright, candid, and say what he believes on a issue in a concise sentence but it’s becoming more like an oasis three days crawl across the desert to find the quality of our trolls we had here just a few moons ago. Trump changed everything.
Rejoice, Dr, Rebane, rejoice. They found life out there! MaryW just proved to the world that there is indeed life on other galaxies, albeit in a rather undeveloped primitive state. It’s still life, however it’s current unevolded form. Always a silver lining.

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