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[Does anyone think that, absent Donald Trump's presidency, we would ever have heard anything more of Hillary's extended career of corruption and criminality?  Me neither.  gjr]

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211 responses to “Sandbox – 5dec17”

  1. George Rebane Avatar

    Dear People – for entertainment and edification I direct your attention to RL Crabb’s blog where I have been having a little tête-à-tête with the landlord, launched by his highly derogatory cartoon of our First Family’s Christmas. Be that dialogue as it may, what I really want to draw your attention to there is one interloper named Chris Peterson who joins in to take me to task in his 600pm. I don’t know what his credentials are, but for sure he knows nothing about me nor my credo. And for sure he understands even less of what we discuss in these pages about world events and public policies. Nevertheless, that does not prevent him from sallying forth with one exquisite and unmoored bloviation. Enjoy.
    http://www.rlcrabb.com/uncategorized/deck-the-halls/#comment-78287
    BTW, Bob promises to unleash on RR a full measure of fire and fury in the coming year. We await his tender mercies.

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  2. Don Bessee Avatar
    Don Bessee

    Ok, so we have someone who lied about a rape and became a c level celeb and recently slut shamed a claim of sexual victimhood at the hands of one of her friends. Now she claims she warned madam liar, liar pantsuits on fire about wienstein during the election? Too many layers here to know what is what. Is it an attention grab for a failed celeb or a crap I should have gone public last year lefty revisionist history?
    http://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/2017/12/05/lena-dunham-says-warned-clinton-campaign-about-harvey-weinstein.html
    Either way the knives are coming out for team Clinton. 😉

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  3. Todd Juvinall Avatar

    So “jon Smith” did not know Africa is a continent? Thought he was pretty ignorant. And the slime bucket ate an elephant? What kind of troll would do that? I bet he eats bunnies and puppies on his trip to Bangkok as well.
    As far as the hypocrite Paul Emery is concerned, talk to jon smith for your outrage bub. I doubt any of the rest of here have tasted the elephant.

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  4. Scott Obermuller Avatar

    “BTW, Bob promises to unleash on RR a full measure of fire and fury in the coming year. We await his tender mercies.”
    Bob has quite an imagination and is quite creative. I’m sure he can fabricate a whole new world of false images and allegations against the conservative view.
    He admits the federal govt is too large but can’t provide a single example of what he would cut.
    In his words – “In conclusion, I think I’ve been too soft on you boys. I’ll try to remedy that in the coming year.”
    Oh – you go, Bobby. Hang on while I crack open a cold one. I’ve always been amused at watching children pretend to act like adults.

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  5. Todd Juvinall Avatar

    Just read the responses to your view of the idiot RL Crabb’s latest slam of Trump and family. He truly is a left wingnut. Somehow a drug damaged brain thinks it has some sort of superiority over rational non druggy types. But that is a outcome from extended abuse. Anyway, it looks like RL is re-citing the Nancy Pelosi talking points that the tax reform is the first step to dismantling the freeloader state. Not gonna happen, but that is the alert he is giving us all for next years propaganda of the left.
    Honestly, you hit the nail on the head about disrespect. No one did Obama and family and he knows it. He would have been the first to draw a picture captioning “RACIST” and we know that is what kept anyone from making fun of Obabma. I bet he can’t produce one parody or satire he did on Obama and his family.
    Lefty wingnits like RL Crabb are all the same. Hypocrites all.

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  6. Robert Cross Avatar
    Robert Cross

    George 7:43. I would say George got his ass handed to him….

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  7. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    Yeah Jon the picture of the Trumplet proudly waving the elephants tail is a window into the heart of a very sad and tragic soul.
    Trump Jr. “posing for the camera with an elephant tail or pulling out the tongue of a dead elk.”
    What is possibly redeemable about that ?

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  8. Todd Juvinall Avatar

    BoobieC 833. No it is quite clear the people attacking GeorgeR are incompetent boobs and he kicked their asses across the county.

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  9. Gregory Avatar
    Gregory

    “Up until 2016, there was at least a semblance of civility towards one’s opponents.” -R.L. Crabb
    Snurrrf!!! Damn, that was so funny it hurt.
    How did Bill Maher put it?
    “This is different. I promise it, this will not make your life better. And also, once fascists get power, they don’t give it up. You’ve got President Trump for life,” he said.
    Maher admitted to being too harsh in criticizing Republican candidates before Trump, acknowledging that they wouldn’t have been the “end of the world.”
    “I know liberals made a big mistake because we attacked your boy [George W.] Bush like he was the end of the world, and he wasn’t,” he said. “And Mitt Romney we attacked that way. I gave Obama a million dollars because I was so afraid of Mitt Romney.”
    Maher said neither Romney nor Sen. John McCain would have “changed my life that much” if they’d defeated President Obama.
    “They were honorable men who we disagreed with and we should have kept it that way,” he said. “So we cried wolf and that was wrong. But this is real. This is going to be way different.”
    I’m expecting Trump, who is devolving executive power more than building it, is not going to be the second coming of Hitler or Stalin.
    Earl, I implore you, get The Union to run your “parody” piece. ‘Tis the season. Deck the halls with boughs of folly.

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  10. Don Bessee Avatar
    Don Bessee

    Why do all of those interesting names speak with the same voices we know so well? It must be kismet 😉

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  11. Todd Juvinall Avatar

    Looks like there is a climate change true believer spewing his propaganda in the Union today. He goes after Gregory.

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  12. Walt Avatar

    The ECO gang,, busted again for making sh*t up.( yes,,cooking the books.. AGAIN.)
    http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2017/12/06/tidalgate-climate-alarmists-caught-faking-sea-level-rise/
    “The authors do not mince their words. They refer to these adjustments as “highly questionable” and “suspicious.”
    That’s because they can find no plausible scientific explanation for the adjustments.”

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  13. Bill Tozer Avatar

    It’s all making sense now. The real issue here is not what Trump has done. Not Russian Collusion because it does nor exist. Not what Jarred did or Flynn did, or what shoes the First Lady wore. None of that is the real issue. Not the protests in the streets, the blocking of traffic, the fighting in the streets or blocking everything in Congress Trump tries to do. Not having judges appointed or denying Ben Carson a deputy at HUD or even a HUD legal counsel on staff. Not even the fakenews industrial complex, nor Hilary Hodge worried sick about her Latinx neice or the welfare of her lesbian sisters of color. No, not any of that.
    They are unhinged not about anything Trump has done. They are unhinged over what Trump might do. Might do. Now it all makes sense.

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  14. Bill Tozer Avatar

    Me @ 9:32 am.
    Strike “might do.”They are wetting themselves and soiling their drawers over what Trump wants to do,, is trying to do. Resist!, everything. Stop the Trump agenda. Rid him from the land. It’s all about what Trump wants to do, not what he has done.

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  15. Todd Juvinall Avatar

    Looks like there was a “roast” in 2009 for Matt Lauer and all the participants, even Trump, knew Matt was screwing a lot of women not his wife. And the defenders of Lauer today claiming they never knew it were at that roast.

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  16. Bill Tozer Avatar

    Al Franken puts new light on the Access Hollywood tape. Opps, add Matt and Conyers, and a boatload of others to the list. If one is a celebrity, then they take it was a green light to let their fingers do the talking. Hey, I am a celebrity so ramming my tongue down your throat is ok, because I am a celebrity. Trump was merely relating to Billy Bush what was common knowledge throughout the industry. Trump left that club, I left that industry and I witnessed a heck of a lot more than what some of these allegations against celebrities consist of…by actors, directors, producers. And yes, I have seen women throw themselves at stars and the movers and shakers to get closer to fame and fortune, a foot in the door if you will.
    And it’s not just in some far distant place like LaLa Land or DC. I have a young female relative that attended an event at the Mine’s Foundry (or Center for the Arts), but memory says it was indeed the Miner’s Foundry in Nevada City, CA, 95959. The event was featuring a famous female comedian I never heard of, but apparently is quite well known. The warm up act was a male comedian. During the break, my relative went outside and saw the warm up act male standing against the building having a smoke. She told him she thought he was funny and really enjoyed his performance. The comedian then suddenly grabbed her, pulled her close, and ran his tongue down her throat while groping her. She was so upset she could not sit through the main event or the rest of the warm up act and was afraid to tell her boyfriend out of fear he would jump on stage and beat our beloved comedian to a bloody pulp. She had to come up with an excuse to leave the show, much to the disaapoinval of her unaware friends.
    Oh course she waited till the next morning to tell Biker Bill. She knew what Bilker Bill would have done. That relative is one of Biker Bill’s daughters. Fuck you Miner’s Foundry for sweeping it under the carpet. And you granola heads and fat slobs call Biker Bill a misogynist? Go pound sand, libholes.

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  17. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    Biker Bill (aka the dribbler)
    Before you slander the Miners Foundry, which you already have done, you should research whether the event actually happened there. I can’t believe you base such blathering on information you yourself are not even sure of. Also did anyone inform the venue of the incident? If it is unbelievably irresponsible to accusing them, whoever they are, of neglect.
    so how about the 16 allegations against Trump Bill? Did all of those women lie?

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  18. Walt Avatar

    LOL!! All of a sudden Paul changes his stripes. Just an accusation isn’t good enough. It was good enough with him when Moore is in the headlights, or any Repub.(especially Trump) No real proof needed
    But when it’s on Paul’s turf,, there better be video and DNA.
    Thanks for exposing your double standard Paul. ( I always knew it was there.)

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  19. Don Bessee Avatar
    Don Bessee

    Oooopsie, Bloomberg has retracted the story about Mueller issuing a subpoena to deautchabank for Trumps financial records. Bad day for the po’ ol’ fakenewsman and his team.
    Snowflakes confirm they are indeed snowflakes-
    http://www.breitbart.com/tech/2017/12/06/young-people-say-calling-them-snowflakes-damages-their-mental-health/
    😉

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  20. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    Just want bill to be sure about the venue Walt. Doesn’t seem he is. Also if it’s public safety he’s concerned about they should have contacted wherever the incident happened.

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  21. Gregory Avatar
    Gregory

    Todd, thanks for the heads up of your 745, I have responded to The Union letters editor.

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  22. Todd Juvinall Avatar

    I saw it. Good butt kicking was needed. LOL!

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  23. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    Todd
    Looks like your guy Bannon is going after military service slackers. Look out!!! You may be next
    Bannon quote:
    “You (Romney) ran for commander in chief and had five sons — not one day of service in Afghanistan or Iraq. We have 7,000 dead and 52,000 casualties, and where were the Romneys during those wars?” Bannon asked. “Judge Roy Moore has more honor and integrity in his pinky finger than your entire family.”

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  24. George Rebane Avatar

    Gregory 1120am – the Mick Tuttle affair is also featured in the latest Ruminations. Let’s continue further discussions there, and, if you care, I’d like to do an early post of your response there also. If you concur, just email it to me.

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  25. Todd Juvinall Avatar

    Why should I worry Paul Emery? I was 1-A all through and was in the lottery. Seems you would be the one to worry, hiding out to avoid going to Nam. Though I don’t hold that against you.

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  26. Don Bessee Avatar
    Don Bessee

    The po’ ol’ fakenewsman is trying to conflate Bannons mitt bashing with someone who had a draft number and whos number did not come up. That’s not a service slacker, that’s just someone who had the luck of the draw. As a guy who hates the military you should not try and go there. 😉

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  27. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    Six years in the reserves including 8 months active duty. I unloaded the caskets from Viet Nam.

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  28. Walt Avatar

    Paul. “Also if it’s public safety he’s concerned about they should have contacted wherever the incident happened.”
    You mean like the accusations from 40 years ago, only coming out now against Moore?
    You two faces are showing again.

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  29. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    The walls are closing in. I’m sure Mueller has direct testimony on this from Flynn the Flipper
    “Democrats on the House oversight committee said in a letter dated Wednesday that the whistleblower reported attending an inauguration day event with Flynn’s former business associate Alex Copson, the managing partner of ACU Strategic Partners.
    The whistleblower said Copson gushed that Trump’s inauguration was “the best day of my life” because it meant his company’s effort to create a U.S.-Russia energy partnership in the Middle East, which reportedly would have included more than two dozen nuclear plants in the region, was moving forward. Copson said Flynn was making sure Obama-era sanctions, which he claimed threatened the nuclear project, would be “ripped up,” according to the whistleblower.”

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  30. Scott Obermuller Avatar

    This should get interesting. Can’t register an IC engine vehicle in Cali starting in 2040.
    https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-12-05/california-bill-to-banish-gasoline-cars-by-2040-is-in-the-works
    And the ‘poor’ who can’t afford electric cars will be given them, apparently.
    Will California actually follow through? Neighboring states hope so.

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  31. Walt Avatar

    Fun and games in Wildwood Center! SWAT TEAM gets some practice!
    My chiropractor and staff needed to change their undies.
    The good Doc needed to barrow a rifle to deal with a kyote problem. One of his clients was more than happy to give him a loner. But walking across the parking lot with a rifle wasn’t the smartest move. Our citizens have good eyes.
    Yup Dr. Tom was looking out the window, as two cops with automatic weapons looked back.(Yes, waive to the nice cops)
    A baled guy wearing all black? (bad choice of fashion today Doc.)
    I guess I was late to the party. I had MY German Shepards with me. ” Need any help” I have the attack dogs!” ( They really like visiting Doc Tom.)
    No killings, no arrests just some rattled nerves.

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  32. Walt Avatar

    No crime Paul,, just like NO DAMNED LINK!!! ( we know how you get when you don’t see one.)

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  33. Walt Avatar

    The IMPEACHMENT vote! the butthurt got their vote today! They got laughed out of the place.
    http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/12/06/us-rep-al-green-plans-trump-impeachment-resolution.html
    Just more Tweet ammo for Trump. Enjoy.

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  34. George Rebane Avatar

    To the casual reader, please note the above use of “Flynn the Flipper” (PaulE’s 1210pm) and the sans-evidence charges the Left uses for their growing catalog of baseless indictments. As Walt’s 1232pm highlights, a pinnacle of this was reached in the attempt by some looney House Dems to introduce articles of impeachment against President Trump. It failed miserably. The Trump Derangement Syndrome beat goes on; put to music, it will probably be awarded an Emmy by the liberals.

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  35. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    George
    If it can be shown that Trump instructed Flynn to lie to the FBI would you consider that an impeachable offense?

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  36. Don Bessee Avatar
    Don Bessee

    IF! The standard charade line when generating false flag fake news by the po’ ol’ fakenewsman, that sounds like something from Joy Behar or morning joe rants. No truth just a hope, prayer with a big dose of IF, IF, IF.
    IF Trump resigns before the inauguration the pubbers will be happy to have President Pence save the party. The pubbers will be ruined IF they have Trump as the candidate and will lose the house and Senate as well as the president. Sound like our po’ ol’ fakenewsman from this time last year? 😉

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  37. Walt Avatar

    So Flynn said he had a Big Mac one time, and a interview or three later says it was a quarter ponder with cheese. Yup, he LIED to the FBI. ( No,, we really haven’t heard just what that lie is supposed to be.)

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  38. Paul Emery Avatar

    Walt
    So the spe3culation is that Flynn called his former business partner on inauguration day saying that their business deal would go forward because he was making sure the Obama imposed sanctions would be torn up removing that obstacle to the deal because the Russians would then approve the deal. Collusion? Duh

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  39. Walt Avatar

    Hummm.. A quick search has that coming ONLY from LIB news making noice about it. No one really “reputable”.
    No wonder you didn’t supply any LINKS,,, like you DEMAND of others.
    Seems like a big deal out of nothing…… Again.
    I bet Hillary and friends did plenty worse. Those indictments are not far off.

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  40. Gregory Avatar
    Gregory

    “So the spe3culation is…”
    Who is doing the speculation besides you, Paul?
    Isn’t life bad enough without going about inventing more of it?

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  41. Robert Cross Avatar
    Robert Cross

    Joke of the Day:
    Kellyanne Conway, “The president has tremendous moral standards…”

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  42. Walt Avatar

    Compared to “name your LIB”,, PLENTY!…, Bobby….
    Your side is in no place to making judgment calls like that..Bobby.
    How many of “your side” has/is been kicked to the curb for piss poor “moral standards”? Elected office, news outlets, Hollywood. But bitch about Trump…Tough times Bobby,, tough times.

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  43. Walt Avatar

    Poor Paul. Has to grovel with a google search. (beat you to it)
    Yup, Motherjones at the top of the list. LOL!!!!
    Like I said. Only LIB RAGS are running with that. How many times has that come back to take a bite out of your adult undies?(plenty)
    No collusion, no crimes. Except withing the FBI itself. Enjoy when that news hits Paul. Muller is in deeper trouble than Trump. I will let you dig that up on your own.

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  44. Walt Avatar

    For my pro dope friends.
    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5150081/Heavy-marijuana-users-showing-ER-scromiting.html
    Still think it’s a swell idea to legalize? Hope that “covered calif.” pays the Dr. bills.

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  45. Bill Tozer Avatar

    Paul, I know well the venue, place, and time. I know all those involved. But, I was told by the victim to let it ride and I said I would, the so I made the venue….shall we say….vague on purpose. Let an out. I broke the promise .today to let er ride. On purpose. Just wanted to hear your moral outrage one more time. You were true to form. What I omitted was the fact that the music business is twice as big as the film business and twice as sleazy. I know that all too well. I was involved in the production of music videos, back when nobody ever heard of Madonna 100 miles from LA, nor nobody had or heard of MTV a 100 miles outside a major metropolis. Sleazebags, liars, and greasers.The-type that leave pregnant women behind (or at the alter) to seek the nightlife.
    I don’t expect you to understand. Someone whose biggest adventure in life was playing in just about every small beer bar, back of greasy spoons, and hole in the walls between west Sac and Medford could not possibly understand.
    I’m shocked I tell ya. “ I never heard such talk in my entire life.” Which I do not find surprising in the least considering the bubble which you move, breathe, and have your being.
    Let that moral outrage fly. I just can’t get enough of it.

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  46. Gregory Avatar
    Gregory

    And the imagined collusion is what, Paul? Be specific.
    That Flynn called a FORMER business partner to tell him the US would drop sanctions against Russia put in place because of the collusion story Obama had been running with?

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  47. Paul Emery Avatar

    Gregory
    It was because the entire Intelligence community concluded that the Russians had been interfering in our elections and Obama instilled sanctions that the Russians opposed and were using as leverage to prevent the deal that Flynn and his former partner had been working on. Flynn contacted him to say that Trump was calling off the sanctions and their project would be able to go ahead. So Russians say do this for me and I’ll do this for you. Collusion for sure if true.

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