[So much going on – today's solar eclipse (protect them peepers), growing echoes of Charlottesville, President Trump reveals what next in Afghanistan, and Islamic terror now regularly arising out of indigenous populations, and more … gjr]
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272 responses to “Sandbox – 21aug17”
Trump is not running Paul Emery. You really are in the throes of a derangement.
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Paul. Where you at burning man when “O” stated that Afghanistan was a “just war. That’s where we need to be.” And did just that. Sent in even more troops.
Now didn’t you tell me a while back that we should be fighting the enemy in our own streets and not theirs? Wait for them to come here?
Fish. You can’t pick a day the war, or any war, will be over. This is a new style of fighting. Our enemy wears no uniform. No rules of established war.(Geneva convention out the window) No one is off limits. They target the innocent.
So cutting and running is going to accomplish just what? ” Wars over, coming over for drinks later?” To end any war takes all they players to agree.
So. Running like the British running at the battle of New Orleans is asking for trouble.
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Posted by: Walt | 21 August 2017 at 09:17 PM
Fish. You can’t pick a day the war, or any war, will be over. This is a new style of fighting. Our enemy wears no uniform. No rules of established war.(Geneva convention out the window) No one is off limits. They target the innocent.
So cutting and running is going to accomplish just what? ” Wars over, coming over for drinks later?” To end any war takes all they players to agree.
So. Running like the British running at the battle of New Orleans is asking for trouble.
Well it looks like I’m correct then…..“There’s no finishing this Walt. Plan on being there forever”.
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I think the terrorists will be there for a long time. At least he is loosening up the rules of engagement and telling Pakistan he will bomb their countries havens. Right on!
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Po’ ol’ fakenewsman @ 839- IT IS 0’s WAR FAILURES. Bush handed off stable situations other than letting 0 deal with the Georgia (European one fakenewsman) situation. It was his lame ass trying to earn the peace prize after the apology tour that squandered the lives of our brothers in arms.
0 owns ISIS and the empowerment of the Mullahs.
Did you hear we are rolling up on Tal Afar again? Google those battles boys and girls. 😉
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Yes, Still Liar in Chief Donald Trump, Fish
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Gentlemen and scumbag:
Afghanistan talk is over on the new Scattershots, FYI
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Still waiting to hear what he lied about. Can never compair to the lies that camout out of “O”‘s piehole.
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Oh goodie goodie gum drops. Another investigation that will fix everything.
http://www.breitbart.com/video/2017/08/21/gohmert-calls-for-investigation-of-va-gov-mcauliffe-for-facilitating-charlottesville-violence/
https://www.facebook.com/PatriotPost/photos/a.82108390913.80726.51560645913/10154996771340914/?type=3&theater
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New product:
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“O” is not President Walt. Didn’t earn my vote second time around.
did you vote for Bush 2nd time? the worst President in modern history.
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Priming Manifort for a flip
“Mueller’s expanded focus on Manafort’s complicated financial picture is zeroing in on whether he may have evaded taxes or engaged in any money laundering schemes, the sources say, and the hunt for his financial records through a labyrinth of offshore bank and business accounts has become an important prong of the investigation.”
http://www.rawstory.com/2017/08/pressure-on-manafort-grows-as-feds-track-more-income-possible-money-laundering/
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PaulE 832am – I continue to note the utter joy such reports bring to you. They are a blessing indeed, and should they be fulfilled, I doubt that you could contain yourself 😉
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And pray tell what does Manifort’s money issues have to do with the investigation of the President? Fishing for a crime. I bet if Meuller came after your meager financial situation Paul; Emry he may just slap you too.
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PE 822
Many think John Kerry would have been the worst president evah! had he prevailed over GW in 2004.
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“I bet if Meuller came after your meager financial situation Paul; Emery he may just slap you too.”
Well, that’s the thing. A weaponized criminal justice system (or IRS) can be a pretty blunt instrument that can pick up anybody. In the cold civil war, anything is fair game so there’s no point in being upset one way or the other. Moralizing on these matters is a waste of time.
As a related matter, the main tell for the Russians not being particularly involved in the 2016 campaign (no more so than usual anyway) is that there’s obviously an information MAD going on between states. I have no doubt that the Russians could bring down practically any US public official, and the US could do the same to them, if they started dumping what they really have. There would be wigs on the green.
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re: Me@9:56AM
Just to expand slightly. The surveillance and information wars may achieve some kind of truce between states, but there is a huge imbalance between individuals, or even political parties, and the nomenklatura of the 17 intelligence agencies.
Seriously, how could they possibly resist the temptation of actually using the data they’ve gleaned. Between the new opportunities built into the technology and the tiny fig leaf given for universal domestic surveillance, it’s all there for the abusing. It doesn’t even take the years of Obama political hires to give you folks who are willing to go to holy war against the invented evil o’ the day…or just make sure that their budget doesn’t get cut.
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I bet the farm on it George
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Kerry worst President ever Gregory? Tough competition with GW.
Crime along the way is fair game Todd. Besides, it will be revealed the Trump family reaped the gains of money laundering schemes by Manifort and others. I’m buying a popcorn maker to watch the show. Big fun for the next couple years.
More Trump lies lies Bill:
no wall
no Obamacare repeal
no tax reform (dead in the water)
no withdrawal Afganistan
on and on and on
Once again Bill list my alleged lies for my reading pleasure. I’ve been accused of worse from this blog.
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More fun and games:
“A former British spy has reportedly given FBI agents the names of his sources for an explosive 35-page dossier linking President Donald Trump to Russian efforts to interfere with the election.
Former MI6 agent Christopher Steele hasn’t yet spoken to congressional investigators about his findings, but he has met with FBI agents to discuss how he had learned about Trump’s alleged activities involving Russia, reported ABC News.”
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Posted by: Paul Emery | 22 August 2017 at 10:21 AM
Oh Punch….you keep digging…..there’s bound to be a pony in there somewhere!
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re PaulE 1019am – For the record, I consider none of those to be ‘lies’ according to my moral compass as expanded in my 847am under Scattershots, and I suspect that of many more millions of Americans (you know, ‘The Despicables’). Once more as Keynes famously stated to the newsmen of his day, ‘When I get new information, I change my mind. What do you do?’
Across the ages Keynes asks that very same question of today’s Paul Emerys.
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Isn’t it Steele who has the infamous “pee tapes” showing Trump with hookers in Moscow?
“many think Kerry etc.” what a pile of crap that is. 1) who are the many who think this? 2) it is pure speculation which makes it pure bullshit 3) what does this statement have to do with anything? 4) how could anyone be worse than trump?
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Posted by: Robert Cross | 22 August 2017 at 10:51 AM
2) it is pure speculation which makes it pure bullshit
Kinda like those mythical “pee tapes”.
…..thanks Bobby
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Punchy, the Green Libertarian Party member @ 10:19 am
Yo Pablo!
–Punchy said: I will not address any comment that does not address me by “Paul or Paul E.”
(Punchy lies, responds directly to posters who call him/her Punchy, Fakenewsman, and do not address him by his preferred names or pronouns, )
–Punchy said; I am signing off for the weekend. No more posts. Have fun without me.
(Punchy posts a few hours later, multiple times over the weekend.)
-No Obamacare repeal: that is Congress’s job.
-No tax reform. Again, that is Congress’s job, and also not on the table until Sept.
-No wall? Again, Congress holds the purse strings. Not on the calander until a future date, probably late September. Congress controls the calander. Meanwhile, Trump exploring alternative sources of funding.
-No withdraw from Afghanistan. Not today, no timetable revealed given the advice of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, experts, and horrible Obama recent history. A reasonable explanation:
“My original instinct was to pull out — and, historically, I like following my instincts. But all my life I’ve heard that decisions are much different when you sit behind the desk in the Oval Office; in other words, when you’re President of the United States. So I studied Afghanistan in great detail and from every conceivable angle. After many meetings, over many months, we held our final meeting last Friday at Camp David, with my Cabinet and generals, to complete our strategy. I arrived at three fundamental conclusions about America’s core interests in Afghanistan.”
Second, the consequences of a rapid exit are both predictable and unacceptable. 9/11, the worst terrorist attack in our history, was planned and directed from Afghanistan because that country was ruled by a government that gave comfort and shelter to terrorists. A hasty withdrawal would create a vacuum that terrorists, including ISIS and al Qaeda, would instantly fill, just as happened before September 11th.
And, as we know, in 2011, America hastily and mistakenly withdrew from Iraq. As a result, our hard-won gains slipped back into the hands of terrorist enemies. Our soldiers watched as cities they had fought for, and bled to liberate, and won, were occupied by a terrorist group called ISIS. The vacuum we created by leaving too soon gave safe haven for ISIS to spread, to grow, recruit, and launch attacks. We cannot repeat in Afghanistan the mistake our leaders made in Iraq.
Third and finally, I concluded that the security threats we face in Afghanistan and the broader region are immense. Today, 20 U.S.-designated foreign terrorist organizations are active in Afghanistan and Pakistan — the highest concentration in any region anywhere in the world.”
Trump explained why he changed his mind, does not deny he changed mind, and the reasons for it,
Telling the enemy when or if we will pull out would create a vacumn for ISIS. We will just keep killing ragheads all day long until we decide the proper time to pull out. As new information is received and digested, things will change. Until then, I will fly 10,000 miles to smoke a camel. The mission is to kill ragheads. Kill as many as necessary, with abandon.
Geeze, Punchy, it took an act of Congress to block Trump’s agenda so far. Too bad you cannot say the same thing about your propensity to “lie” and to it again. I know, you don’t remember. And your explanation for not keeping your word is…is…is….what exactly? I am all ears.
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Repeal Obamacare? Hmm. It fell one vote shy. 2018 will take care of that…if Obamacare ain’t totally unraveled under its own weight by then… complete with 20 million folks dying in the streets. Postponed, delayed is all that “lie” is about. Trump tried, waiting for a better negotiating position. Patience grasshopper, patience.
Note to self: Check out Mortuary and chain funeral home stocks.
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And you thought we had ‘news’ in this country rather than DNC media outlets.
https://www.rt.com/viral/400546-msnbc-trump-trashman-afghanistan-speech/
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15 quatloos say “Robert Cross” is Michael P. Anderson.
I feel your pain, Mike. Paul, I also feel your pain… that proof of Russian involvement in the loss last November is almost in your grasp.
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Well, if Bobby ‘with the hot steamer in his britches’ Cross wants to relive the glory days of Golden Shower author Chris Steele, I say open wide, Bobbie, how about a nice sip of lemonade? Heated up just for you. Sorry bro, the hookers won’t touch you with a stolen pole, no matter how much I offered them. Worried about catching your air borne diseases and all that stuff. Only so much I can do for ya, bro. Thirsty?
https://www.facebook.com/lastamericapatriots/photos/a.235087906641439.1073741826.235086849974878/900530283430528/?type=3&theater
https://www.facebook.com/lastamericapatriots/photos/a.235087906641439.1073741826.235086849974878/904636609686562/?type=3&theater
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Bill,, Ya’ got me in tears of laughter with that last one… “grow your on dope” indeed.
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Speaking of Ms. Debbie W. Schulz
https://i.redd.it/0x8ybc1buqcz.png
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https://www.facebook.com/RowdyConservatives/photos/a.217983685002343.55586.217926015008110/1153041308163238/?type=3&theater
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So this is what all the excitement was all about on the scanner.
http://www.theunion.com/news/local-news/authorities-man-handling-illegal-fireworks-severely-burned-in-chicago-park/
Stupid SHOULD hurt.
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A MAJOR LOSS FOR THE FEDS: Jury refuses to convict in Bundy ranch standoff.
A federal jury in Las Vegas refused Tuesday to convict four defendants who were retried on accusations that they threatened and assaulted federal agents by wielding assault weapons in a 2014 confrontation to stop a cattle roundup near the Nevada ranch of states’ rights figure Cliven Bundy.
In a stunning setback to federal prosecutors planning to try the Bundy family patriarch and two adult sons later this year, the jury acquitted Ricky Lovelien and Steven Stewart of all 10 charges, and delivered not-guilty findings on most charges against Scott Drexler and Eric Parker.
https://lasvegassun.com/news/2017/aug/22/jury-refuses-to-convict-in-bundy-ranch-standoff/
Yea!!
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Hallelujah.
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Doubling down:
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2017/08/22/trump_we_are_liberating_our_towns_of_illegal_immigrant_gangs.html
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Ain’t into wild predictions this far out, but this one popped out. I read the 5/38 data earlier, a few days ago, but this link puts it all together in a nice format. 2018 will be upon us soon enough, whether we are ready or not.
This reminds me of someone, something have heard before on these pages: Cut and run?
“Some Democrats think they lost because struggling white Americans were fooled into thinking Trump would help them, and so they’ll turn against the president when their economic situations don’t improve. That’s a sociology professor’s fantasy of American politics that completely misses the cultural factors for Trump’s win – and Hillary Clinton’s loss.”
And this sounds like deja vu all over again
5) Most importantly, conventional wisdom has lost its wisdom. For the last year and a half, the experts have constantly told us that NOW American politics is reverting to normal. The point to faulty historical trends, flawed polls, and irrelevant electoral data – misreading the Zeitgeist and gaping bewildered at the Trump phenomenon. At this point when I hear an expert predict doom for the GOP I automatically presume the opposite will happen, since the last time they got it right, Trump was still hosting a reality show. Just you watch.
http://dailycaller.com/2017/08/22/2018-will-be-a-bloodbath-for-democrats/
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Gotta love Mike Rowe.
http://dailycaller.com/2017/08/23/mike-rowe-absolutely-destroys-guy-who-accuses-him-of-being-a-white-nationalist/
No matter who you are, or what you do, someone will accuse you of being racist for no reason what so ever.
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JOHN HINDERAKER: Barack Obama’s Legacy of Lies and Broken Promises on Afghanistan.
“On issue after issue, Barack Obama passed the buck, making the situation worse than he found it and leaving his successor to pick up the pieces. Health care, military preparedness, the national debt, Iran, Iraq, Syria, North Korea and Afghanistan are some of the instances that come to mind. What is galling is that because he is a Democrat, Obama was never held accountable for his fecklessness (or worse). The press, and the establishment in general, allowed him to skate. . . . Barack Obama’s administration was a horrific failure in just about every way, but he has had the press running interference for him for eight years and counting. His lies and broken promises about Afghanistan are a sobering reminder of what a poor job he did as president.”
http://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2017/08/barack-obamas-legacy-of-lies-and-broken-promises-on-afghanistan.php
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Great article Walt @ 5:25 am concerning flawed logic.
This is what we foolishly fight against, thinking that somehow logic will change Broken Thinkers. Trump was right last night. They will never change. With that said, here is “liberal logic” connecting the dots. Another Maxine Waters meme:
https://www.facebook.com/lastamericapatriots/photos/a.235087906641439.1073741826.235086849974878/908469775969912/?type=3&theater
Their concerns are very important for me. Or maybe not.
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More on hysteria from Scott Adams:
http://blog.dilbert.com/post/164492167706/the-magical-thinking-opposition
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Trump’s rally last night was great. I liked his taking the fake news to task for lying to the people about Charlottsville and what he said. Of course we who have common sense knew what he said and meant. Only the fake news people could screw that up and they did. And because they did they have fomented hate. Shame on them. Go Trump!
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Another good day for smashing the chains of racism….
They pulled Robert Lee off the ESPN broadcast……you heard it correctly Robert Lee will not call the UVA v Willam and Mary college football opener tonight!
…..another white supremacist denied the opportunity to express his racisty racism in a public forum!
Wait wut?!?
https://www.outkickthecoverage.com/msespn-pulls-asian-announcer-named-robert-lee-off-uva-game-avoid-offending-idiots/
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Trump losing Republican support,, drops 8 points in a week. This is before last nights cavalcade of lies in Arizona
“Much of the decline in Trump’s approval rating appears to have come from self-identified Republican voters — 73 percent, down from 81 percent last week. ”
http://www.politico.com/story/2017/08/23/trump-charlottesville-polls-241917?lo=ap_a1
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Posted by: Paul Emery | 23 August 2017 at 09:14 AM
Hmmmmmm……lets see……-8-13-12-14-4+6-9-10-5-18 (wow….that’s gonna leave a mark) – 7-7-3-16-6-9-5-5+1-8-6-7-3-5+9-7-8-3…..starting from an intial number of around 61%…..carry the one……amortized over twenty years…….hmmmm……your mileage may vary…….yields a final public approval number of….
…….STILL PRESIDENT PAUL.
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Fish @ 9:08 am
Well, well, well. Have you noticed that the name Jeff sounds a lot like Jefferson, as in Jefferson Davis? Since Jap (a racial slur) is short for Japanese, then Jeff is obviously short for Jefferson Davis. Or that slave owner who raped a slave, Thomas Jefferson. What were Jeff’s parents thinking? Oh, we know what they were thinking, we know exactly.
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From the Unintended Comedy/Irony desk…….
From a woman who has been married to Bill Clinton for 40+ years! I imagine that “skin crawling” feeling is something that she’s used to by now!
http://www.sacbee.com/news/politics-government/national-politics/article168817492.html
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“‘My skin crawled. Get away from me you creep”. Is that a quote from Juanita Broaddrick or Kathleen Wiley or Paula Jones or the entire chorus line?
No wonder her skin crawled.
https://youtu.be/xa3gi_-qsOE
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Paul Emery | 23 August 2017 at 09:14 AM
HAHAHAHA. Politico? You gotta be kidding. They are the official Hillary apologist publication. What a hoot!
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