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  1. ScenesFromTheApocalypse Avatar
    ScenesFromTheApocalypse
  2. fish Avatar
    fish

    Posted by: Paul Emery | 24 July 2017 at 12:18 PM
    Is his dad still president Punchy?
    Get back to me when he isn’t.

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  3. Walt Avatar

    Scenes. Great find. Can you remind me of when that Dem minion was murdered? (the one some believe was the “leaker”.) Hillary’s clean up crew at work. No wonder the Clinton’s inner circle won’t talk. Not even with immunity. They remember what happened to Vince Foster.
    This latest “plugged” leak was a good reminder for them. ” NO.. You don’t rat on the Clintons.

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  4. Walt Avatar

    Some fake news for our fake news guy to spread.
    http://www.breitbart.com/jerusalem/2017/07/24/fake-news-cnns-jake-tapper-claims-every-intelligence-expert-trump-obama-affirm-russia-interference/
    Remind us again of just “what” interference? (that means,, just what did they actually do?)
    Fork over the facts Paul. “because I said so” doesn’t fly.

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  5. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    Walt. Ah, leave the poor Green Libertarian alone. Can’t you see he is busy meddling all over himself? Come on, give the man some elbow room.
    Boy, they are really piling on po o’ pollin Jake “the Brian Williams” Tapper today. He was born a poor black child raised by white blind sharecropper parents….in a shack behind the projects between the tracks and the river.
    http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2017/07/23/ivy-league-puffery-very-fake-news-cnns-jake-tapper-caught-misstating-his-background-on-live-television/

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  6. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    For all of you:
    Somebody’s not telling the truth here Walt either Trump or Trump Jr. What’s your best guess?
    Trump quote (tweet)
    “Russia has never tried to use leverage over me. I HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH RUSSIA – NO DEALS, NO LOANS, NO NOTHING!”
    https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2017/01/11/donald-trump-russia-vladimir-putin/96444482/
    Trump Jr
    “And in terms of high-end product influx into the US, Russians make up a pretty disproportionate cross-section of a lot of our assets; say in Dubai, and certainly with our project in SoHo and anywhere in New York. We see a lot of money pouring in from Russia.’
    http://www.eturbonews.com/5008/executive-talk-donald-trump-jr-bullish-russia-and-few-emerging-ma

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  7. Walt Avatar

    One more pointy stick poke to Paul’s posterior. A “news event” even HE could not attend, if he wanted to.
    http://www.breitbart.com/california/2017/07/23/maxine-blocks-press-tells-nh-dems-shes-organizing-bring-deplorable-trump/
    Just who is this “we”?
    “Mr. President, we are organizing. And we are organizing to bring you down,” Waters reportedly said, according to an attendee. 
”And bring your agenda down.”

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  8. ScenesFromTheApocalypse Avatar
    ScenesFromTheApocalypse

    re: Walt@10:22.
    It’s called ‘Arkancide’.

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  9. ScenesFromTheApocalypse Avatar
    ScenesFromTheApocalypse

    re: The Paul@2:08PM
    Perhaps you could outline for us what the size and terms are for the various loans the Trump companies carry? I’d be happy to look at a list in order to have some idea of the scope of the ‘influence’ that various banks have on Trump. It’s an interesting situation, I admit, given that it’s different than his adversary just being flat out bribed by large financial institutions and sovereign governments, but I admit that they might have some power over him on future transaction.
    Any clue what banks there are in Russia? Not using Google, could you name 5? 1?
    You might ease up on ‘Trumplet’ given that the son is no doubt tall enough to use your head to park his drink.

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  10. Gregory Avatar
    Gregory

    Paul E 208
    My best guess is you’re conflating individual Russians with money to invest in a Dubai REIT a decade ago with your imaginary phantoms in the Russian government and banks controlled by the Kremlin loaning money to the Trumps last year in that quid prop quo you’re giddy about finding. But then that’s what you do, isn’t it?
    The answer is always behind Door #3. If not this Door #3, there will be another Door #3 to look behind if you sit tight.

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  11. Robert Cross Avatar
    Robert Cross

    You all better hope and pray the whole Russian connection is fake news as you believe. If it is, in fact, all or even part true, there won’t be enough crow to go around.

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  12. Walt Avatar

    Keep hoping R.Cross. After ALL this time this is nothing. If there “was” any “there”,, there, it would have been leaked by now. But to this day, not a damned thing except continuing accusations. The LIBS and anti Trumpers will still yap about Russians well into Trump’s second term.

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  13. Gregory Avatar
    Gregory

    Bobby Cross, if it turns out there was fire and not just a Democratic Party smoke machine running 24/7, I’ll still not have a slice of crow to down… just because the deep state couldn’t find those smoking guns despite leaking all the innuendo they ran across. I’m not particularly for the GOP but I am against you and the Dems in general.
    If it is all fake news and nothing comes of all the DP histrionics to the contrary, the GOP will do nicely in Nov 2018. It will be Nov ’16 all over again. Even now, folks like James Carville are suggesting just that.
    The Better Deal! [snicker, snort!]. What a maroon! What an ignoranimus!

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  14. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    Gregory, Scenes
    Pretty clear what they said
    ” Russians make up a pretty disproportionate cross-section of a lot of our assets”
    Trumplet
    “I HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH RUSSIA – NO DEALS, NO LOANS, NO NOTHING!”
    Trump tweet
    Trump
    Direct quotes. Somebody is telling a lie here. Your guess?

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  15. Gregory Avatar
    Gregory

    Paul, one was discussing REITs a decade ago by DJT Jr
    One was DJT his’self discussing his business last year.
    You’re welcome.

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  16. fish Avatar
    fish

    Posted by: Robert Cross | 24 July 2017 at 03:11 PM
    You all better hope and pray the whole Russian connection is fake news as you believe. If it is, in fact, all or even part true, there won’t be enough crow to go around.

    Why? If it turns out that there is indeed something there then he can be removed from office and the vice president can assume his duties as the constitution provides for. You guys seem to think that Trumps removal would somehow be the end of the pushback against the mindless progressivism of the Obama administration…..it’s not….it’s just the beginning.

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  17. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    Oh, Mr. Cross is right. With 6 investigations in the Legislative Branch going on and with the Independent investigator and hundreds of lawyers and Lib PACs turning over every rock, including Trump’s third grade teacher’s grandma’s maiden name, well, they are bound to find a Scotter Libby in there somewhere. They always got to bring home something after all that money and hard work expended drowning worms. Who knows, maybe a bluegill or undersized bass. A minnow will work fine as a sacrifice at the alter of Trump Derangement Syndrome. Boy, I have never seen many unhinged bedwetters rue for the good old days of mild mannered George W. Bush, two term President of these here United States of America.
    https://www.facebook.com/RowdyConservatives/photos/a.217983685002343.55586.217926015008110/1136974503103252/?type=3&theater
    https://www.facebook.com/lastamericapatriots/photos/a.235087906641439.1073741826.235086849974878/892255604257996/?type=3&theater
    https://www.facebook.com/lastamericapatriots/photos/a.235087906641439.1073741826.235086849974878/892252514258305/?type=3&theater

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  18. Don Bessee Avatar
    Don Bessee

    Its a tough day to be a po’ ol’ fakenewsman. When Willie Brown is warning the Dems that Trump is beating them at every turn and he is setting the stage for a big 2018 the left is in trouble. The reversal of 0’s policies is REAL change and the people recognize it. Willie knows politics, especially Dem politics.
    Megan Kelly on NBC has ratings so bad it is rumored that she will be exiled and become the news director at KVMR.
    How about Trump at the Boy Scout jamboree! 😉

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  19. Walt Avatar

    Damn Don,, Ol’ Paul will have two more in front of him at KVMR? Megan gets second billing, yet still gets beat out by Art Bell. Art and Megan are still more credible that Paul.(and probably bring in better money than Paul ever could.)

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  20. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    Well, seems the Dems have come up with their new political slogan. Something about taking the “it’s the jobs, stupid” from Trump and trying o own it. Imitation is the highest form of flattery. A New ‘New Deal’ New! . Guess the old New Deal proved over time the Matrix is not perfect.
    But,…….drumroll please…..the Dems can’t hold a candle to……to…..Ladies and gentlemen, scholars and scumbags, I present to you the best darn political slogan of the year!!!
    https://www.facebook.com/PatriotPost/photos/a.82108390913.80726.51560645913/10154922061235914/?type=3&theater

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  21. ScenesFromTheApocalypse Avatar
    ScenesFromTheApocalypse

    “You all better hope and pray the whole Russian connection is fake news as you believe. If it is, in fact, all or even part true, there won’t be enough crow to go around.”
    Oh, I don’t doubt that parts are as real as can be.
    Trump, or an associate, or an associate of an associate, has borrowed money from some corporation that is at least partly Russian, has had lunch with a Russian ambassador, took an RT employee on a date, even told a bit ahead of time about a leak of some DNC perfidy.
    Now that politically fatal acts have moved from the illegal to ‘collusion’ to any kind of contact, of course it’s real. Heck, we’ve gone from contact to ‘forget to tell about every bit of contact’. While it seems that 95% of the uproar is BS thus far, it’s easy to see that something has happened…at least lunch.
    It’s a bummer that the Left is willing to go to war with a nuclear power purely to push a President out of office, but at least the arms shipments to places like the Middle East will keep improving the trade deficit if Trump can be forced to bend the knee. Time for a drink, bringing down Western Civilization is thirsty work.

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  22. ScenesFromTheApocalypse Avatar
    ScenesFromTheApocalypse

    re: Walt@5:14PM
    “Gutierrez said that while Trump is attempting to criminalize immigrants, the president is the ‘real criminal.’ ”
    No surprises there. In a way, it’s kind refreshing to hear the truth come out. The Left never ever had any intention of controlling the border. Not even slightly.

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  23. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    So Gregory let me get this straight. You believe that Trump Jr was telling the truth 10 years ago when he said
    “Russians make up a pretty disproportionate cross-section of a lot of our assets”
    And that is no longer true when Trump said earlier this year that,
    “I HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH RUSSIA – NO DEALS, NO LOANS, NO NOTHING!”
    Can you assure me that is your understanding.

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  24. ScenesFromTheApocalypse Avatar
    ScenesFromTheApocalypse

    This is a beautiful time to be alive. The newswarriors are as sleazy as usual:
    http://thehill.com/homenews/media/343430-newsweek-settles-with-sputnik-writer?amp
    Mr. Eichenwald is an interesting man, not just from his meltdown on Tucker. It’s worth a bit of research since it’s rather tawdry. Just another fake newsman.

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  25. Don Bessee Avatar
    Don Bessee

    Can you assure me that is your understanding. ” That seems to be a question, where is the question mark ya po’ ol’ pollhead?
    Walt @ I don’t know about Megan being a more believable faknewsman than the po’ ol’ fakenewsman but you could be right. I think she still may still be in the broken clock zone of being right at least twice a day, our po’ ol’ fakenewsman has been below the broken clock standard for a good bit of time.
    Did you guys hear about the Davis mosque preaching for death to all the Jews in Arabic and posting it on youtube only to have someone translate it? Should that imam be charged with a hate crime? I wonder what his immigration status is? 😉

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  26. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    Gone
    How much money did measure w cost Nevada County taxpayers ?

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  27. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    Don
    How much money did measure cost Nevada County taxpayers?

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  28. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    It’s OK Don to say you don’t know the cost of measure W

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  29. ScenesFromTheApocalypse Avatar
    ScenesFromTheApocalypse

    lol. Be very afraid.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ibKwjNmn64g
    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DFiNyqxWsAElU71.jpg
    I hear there’s a MAGA merit badge in the works.

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  30. Walt Avatar

    Hay Paul!! Remember your statements about voter fraud? (reminder..”there isn’t any”)
    http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2017/07/24/study-8471-cases-double-voting-uncovered-21-states/
    Ever get tired of being wrong? No wonder you gripe about the FEDS looking into voter fraud. It’s the ONLY way your side can win.
    More dead and gone W BS? give it a rest.

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  31. Walt Avatar

    Scenes found that on CNN????? WOW.. CNN is trying to stay relevant.

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  32. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    tOnly 2,991,529 left to go walt and Trump will be even with Hillary

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  33. ScenesFromTheApocalypse Avatar
    ScenesFromTheApocalypse

    re: Walt@8:05
    I’ve been enjoying reading all the outrage on Twitter. BSA = Hitler Youth and all that sort of thing. The Green Libertarians seem a bit miffed.

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  34. Don Bessee Avatar
    Don Bessee

    Uh Oh, spaghettios, DC circuit Federal Judge orders States to comply with the voting commissions data requests. Motor voter be damned, purge the rolls of the democratic zombie voters.
    Is that a po’ ol’ party parrot squawking in the background, kinda like a skipping record? Guess you cant teach a po’ ol’ party parrot new squawks. Look, Russian dressing is served in Trump Tower, Trump drinks stoli, THEY TALKED TO RUSSIANS!! Squawk! Time to change the cage liner. 😉

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  35. Walt Avatar

    that’s right Paul, Trump won despite the fraud vote. Since your mind just ain’t what it used to be, This wasn’t the first time votes VS electoral collage didn’t agree. They didn’t give it to the sore loser back then either.
    Still not a smidgen of corruption. You can’t impeach just because you don’t like him.

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  36. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    No proof of major vote Fraud Walt. Show me where the was proof.
    Don, how much did your Measure W cost Nevada County taxpayers . Lost 40-60, major rout and waste of money. You were the main spokesperson for W right? It set up Heidi Hall for a sure victory in District 1. Well done Don.

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  37. Gregory Avatar
    Gregory

    Paul, by looking at the context and times of both the decade old description of a number of real estate investors as Russians (meaning Russian individuals) by Jr., and the declaration of Sr. that he didn’t have loans, deals, etc. with Russia (meaning the state or state actors), yes, I can see where both may have been telling the truth. But then I’m a stickler for the words used and the context in which they were uttered. I gather you are not. I’m also not assuming the worst and filling in the details in such a way that inexorably lead to that conclusion, and you are.
    Good luck wid dat, Paul.
    Perhaps I should confess that I too have a bottle of Russian salad dressing in the fridge somewhere, so I may also be a suspect.

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  38. Walt Avatar

    OH what a fun “disclaimer” you come back with. Now you want “major” fraud. In who’s interpretation Capt. Lefty? Yours? LOL!

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  39. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    Trump claims 3 million Walt

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  40. Walt Avatar

    Right on time. What LIBS did has come back to bite.(again)
    “The Senate Judiciary Committee is questioning whether the Democratic National Committee violated the Foreign Agents Registration Act (FARA) by working with Ukrainian government officials to undermine Donald Trump’s presidential campaign last year.
    In a letter sent to Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein, Iowa Sen. Chuck Grassley pointed to a report published by Politico in January laying out DNC official Alexandra Chalupa’s collaboration with Ukrainian politicians to compile research on Paul Manafort, Trump’s former campaign chairman.”
    http://dailycaller.com/2017/07/24/senator-asks-doj-about-democrats-work-with-ukraine-to-smear-trump-campaign/
    We can see who and where the Russian collusion conspiracy resides with. Break out the BIG bottle of Russian dressing, and COSTCO caviar.

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  41. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    GREGORY
    Do you really think Trump won’t release his tax records because he’s being Audited? What Do you think he’s trying to hide

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  42. Gregory Avatar
    Gregory

    I expect Trump is hiding behind the laws of the US that make tax returns private, Paul. He was elected without having released them for public dissection, and there may be an opportunity to either reelect him or not in 2020.

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  43. Don Bessee Avatar
    Don Bessee

    Walt the po’ ol’ fakenewsman does not have the party parrots union bosses permission to go off script from the talking points for lefties. I see your Ukraine and I raise 20% of uranium stocks, Wassermann’s smashed hard drives and Anthony Weiners cell phone. Dems are absolutely the gift that just keeps on giving, to themselves mostly. 😉

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  44. Walt Avatar

    DING!!,, The Paul buzzer just went off… SUBJECT CHANGE!! And the most trivial of topics no less. Nope,, just ain’t going where the real issue is. Especially when it’s DEM who have splain’n to do real soon.
    How bout that Paul? It’s just might be LIBS who are rubbing one out for the Russians?
    Yup,, that’s why tax papers have given you wood all of a sudden.

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  45. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    Tax returns, grabbing some Putang, Russians, investment funds, Squawk, Squawk, Squawk! Next we will hear again about T Rex and Putin and Trump grabbing all the oil! Wait, what about Golden Shower, yellow snow, and impeachment…..and the R’s are going to toss Trump overboard, and 2018 the R’s will be toast, and I have never seen anything like this in 30 years, and Pelosi’s protégée Heidi Hall 88, and lions and tigers and bears, oh my!
    https://www.facebook.com/lastamericapatriots/photos/a.235087906641439.1073741826.235086849974878/892264630923760/?type=3&theater
    Makes sense to me.
    https://www.facebook.com/lastamericapatriots/photos/a.235087906641439.1073741826.235086849974878/892266797590210/?type=3&theater

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  46. Don Bessee Avatar
    Don Bessee

    Can anyone tell me how the head of Al Jazeera here is the boss of the National Press Club? I mean its only our Sunni allies who have labeled Al Jazeera a tool of the jihadis. Must be one of those 0 leftovers issues. 😉

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  47. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    Opps. I forgot Measure W. Best to keep it local because when a Green Libertarian steps out from small time bars in Nevada Cith into the ways of the big big world, the poor soul gets rather confused between reality and fantasy.
    Note to self: find out who makes Tin Fold Depends and put a buy order in.
    https://www.facebook.com/lastamericapatriots/photos/a.235087906641439.1073741826.235086849974878/892081577608732/?type=3&theater

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  48. Ricky McVeigh Avatar
    Ricky McVeigh

    I see that Rebane’s Treason Blog is still in full swing. God bless the First Amendment!

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