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Sandbox – 15jul17

15 July 2017

[Check out what is happening to our (and all?) economies with the advent of the giga-corporations – Microsoft, Alphabet, Amazon, Facebook – that have created oligopolies in several markets. And the commentary on what these companies know about the dark sides of human affairs – e.g. sources and distribution of fake news – is more than a bit disturbing. More here. gjr]

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210 responses to “Sandbox – 15jul17”

Todd Juvinall

19 July 2017

Big donors threaten to primary the Senators who are not helping.

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Todd Juvinall

19 July 2017

I wonder w the California democrats gained a Super-Majority (67%) of the Legislature with 44% of the registered voters. Anyone with an idea how this happens?

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Todd Juvinall

19 July 2017

Here is the chart
https://twitter.com/johnmyers/status/738881558539423744/photo/1?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw&ref_url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.latimes.com%2Fpolitics%2Fla-pol-sac-essential-politics-california-new-voters-voter-registration-primary-htmlstory.html

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Todd Juvinall

19 July 2017

And polls for those like me that see the bias lefty.
WaPo today weights democrats plus 12 in respondents over R’s and Indies at 35%. Then, of course, the results are so skewed the public is hornswoggled into a phony belief.
http://apps.washingtonpost.com/g/page/politics/washington-post-abc-news-poll-july-10-13-2017/2228/

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Robert Cross

19 July 2017

Todd 9:57—It happens Todd, because independent/decline to state voters vote with the Democrats. In a progressive (rather than a regressive) state like CA, the Republicans really have nothing to offer most voters. Their gifts to the wealthy and the multinational corporations at a the expense of the poor and working class only seems to resonate with themselves and, obviously, not enough people to elect a majority. A society is measured not by its greed but by how it treats those in need, something Republicans fail at miserably.

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Todd Juvinall

19 July 2017

But Cross 1023, the democrats are in charge and if what you say is true about the money then it must be the democrats of California that are to blame. So perhaps you need to rethink your prejudice about the “wealthy”?

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Walt

19 July 2017

Really R.Cross? Hillary was the whore of Wall St.. Here in Ca., just who in big biz isn’t a Prog these days? Is the likes of Zukerburg Repub backers? Tesla?(getting rich at the taxpayers expense) Still the “not so well off”, vote for LIBS because of the promises of “free stuff”.

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fish

19 July 2017

Posted by: Robert Cross | 19 July 2017 at 10:23 AM
Well done Bobby…..you have surely punched your ticket to heaven!

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Bill Tozer

19 July 2017

There are a groups of Congresspersons, US Senators, and a bunch of folks drawing their paychecks from PACs whose top priority in life is to protect Obama’s legacy.
https://www.facebook.com/lastamericapatriots/photos/a.235087906641439.1073741826.235086849974878/886103161539907/?type=3&theater
The gift that keeps on giving. Twice voted the most corrupt person in Congress (albeit not recently ) by a left wing transparency in politics advocacy group. It’s for the little people! The graft that gets on giving. Auntie Maxie, you are the new rock star of the anti-capitalist Democrat Party.
https://www.facebook.com/lastamericapatriots/photos/a.235087906641439.1073741826.235086849974878/888208414662715/?type=3&theater
Finally, a blast from the past. Back in the big CA drought days of Jerry Brown in the 70’s, the PSAs filling the airwaves had with a slogan to converse water, more specifically, bathroom water. The catchphrase was “”Yellow is mellow. If it’s brown, flush it down.”
If you don’t die or move far away, you will see it all come back around. Even the typewriter is coming back as people are growing tired of the Internet and going to places filled with tables, paper, and Whiteout where they can pound out letters and papers on the ole typewriters again, but I digress. If it’s boneless brown…
https://www.facebook.com/lastamericapatriots/photos/a.235087906641439.1073741826.235086849974878/887465358070354/?type=3&theater
Well, I can wish, can’t I?

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Todd Juvinall

19 July 2017

Trump just had lubch with the 52 and gave them the riot act! I was cheering him on. He is plain spoken and chastised those chicken sh**s about Ocare.

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ScenesFromTheApocalypse

19 July 2017

re: Fish
“Well done Bobby…..you have surely punched your ticket to heaven!”
With a bit of editing, it would make a wonderful bumper sticker.

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ScenesFromTheApocalypse

19 July 2017

re: BillT@11:59
“Talk about an oxymoron, Green Libertarian takes the cake.”
I’m working on slogans here, how about:
“Green Libertarianism means never having to say you’re sorry”

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fish

19 July 2017

Posted by: ScenesFromTheApocalypse | 19 July 2017 at 11:10 AM
Feel free…..we’ll split the profits 50/50!

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Bill Tozer

19 July 2017

Todd @ 10:28 am
Walt @ 10:44 am.
Yep, and to think My Gal won ever so progressive CA with a hundred million gazillion more votes than Trump. That says all you need to now. Now, let’s all sit around the campfire at night in our hobo camps (or in the college dorms) and come up with ways we can get our hands on all that money that had to be stashed somewhere in the big house on the hill. What would you buy? What’s yours is mine and what’s mine is mine. It’s so unfair. It’s sooo Kalifornication.
https://www.facebook.com/RowdyConservatives/photos/a.217983685002343.55586.217926015008110/1132831256850910/?type=3&theater

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ScenesFromTheApocalypse

19 July 2017

re: Fish
I was thinking in terms of:
“because independent/decline to state voters vote with the Democrats. In a progressive (rather than a regressive) state like CA, the Republicans really have nothing to offer most voters. Their gifts to the wealthy and the multinational corporations at a the expense of the poor and working class only seems to resonate with themselves and, obviously, not enough people to elect a majority. A society is measured not by its greed but by how it treats those in need, something Republicans fail at miserably.”
It crams in all the bullet points, but is too lengthy. Maybe something like: “A society is measured not by it’s greed, but how it treats those in need, so we’ll make Republicans bleed”

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Paul Emery

19 July 2017

For your reading pleasure Trump at all time low-an astounding -16 in RCP average of all major polls. Lowest polling in history at this point.
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/other/president_trump_job_approval-6179.html

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Todd Juvinall

19 July 2017

Still President their Pauly.

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Bill Tozer

19 July 2017

Well, My Gal did win CA. No agrument here.
Visualize whirled peas.
https://www.facebook.com/RowdyConservatives/photos/a.217983685002343.55586.217926015008110/1116132435187459/?type=3&theater
And they say nothing is impossible. But, Dr. Rebane says we are past the tipping point. Boy, them progressives led up pretty far into the woods this time.
https://www.facebook.com/RowdyConservatives/photos/a.217983685002343.55586.217926015008110/1132832710184098/?type=3&theater
Greed, bleed, need. Yep, that pretty much sums it up. The problem with progressives is they really really really want socialism. No ifs, ands, or buts about it.
https://www.facebook.com/RowdyConservatives/photos/rpp.217926015008110/1131291870338182/?type=3&theater

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Paul Emery

19 July 2017

Down by 16 in the Conservative Rasmussen poll. All time low

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Walt

19 July 2017

Some reading material for R.Cross.
http://www.sfchronicle.com/aboutsfgate/article/Why-universal-basic-income-is-gaining-support-11290211.php
This is how Progs troll votes. ” I’m, for the GOV to give you free money”
Then the leaches of society (or really close to it) take the bait, and vote LIB.
“Why work when I can sponge off the backs of others?”

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Bunny

19 July 2017

Go get them Trumpy! You are the MAN! Really spank those delinquent reps who won’t vote for a crap bill. Show them you are the Negotiator! When you shake their hand try to pull them toward you and get them off balance to show your Alpha superiority. That will be so great!

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ScenesFromTheApocalypse

19 July 2017

Some words on what is really the heart of the matter.
http://blogs.lse.ac.uk/politicsandpolicy/antiracism-norms-and-immigration/

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Bill Tozer

19 July 2017

Well, this one is a no-brainer. Over here, we call me basement dwellers…or Antifa.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4200272/92-Berlin-left-wing-activists-live-parents.html

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Bill Tozer

19 July 2017

Repost for our Green “Libertarian”. Think Punchy best drop the word “libertarian” from his description of his political beliefs and worldview. Kinda wise to know what one is yapping about when one is flapping his gums on how he sees himself. Opps. Did I just assume his gender?
What an oxymoron and what a moron.
https://www.facebook.com/lastamericapatriots/photos/a.235087906641439.1073741826.235086849974878/888784361271787/?type=3&theater

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Bill Tozer

19 July 2017

Is this is what Mr. Cross meant by how Progressives do things?
“Much like rebels fighting the Empire, voters responded to this outrage by attempting to recall a Senator who supported the gas tax hike. In a stunning abuse of power, Democrats used the budget process to change the recall rules and slow the effort.
Using the same budget process, they dismantled the Board of Equalization, stripping taxpayers of their right to bring appeals before their elected peers. The Board was independent, often worked in a bipartisan manner, and didn’t march to the Democratic Party’s drumbeat.”
http://www.investors.com/politics/commentary/power-drunk-california-democrats-must-answer-to-voters/?ref=yfp

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Don Bessee

19 July 2017

There is one story the green libertarian fakenewsman wont focus on. His po’ ol’ greenie agenda has borne fruit in Germany, they have 30% of their energy from renewables. Wooo hooo.
There is one problem with the eco warrior win in this case, the price of energy is up 50% for the average German household, don’t even ask about the poor grandmas who cant afford to heat their houses. That’s why german companies have been building factories in lower energy cost places like Slovenia. California here we come with back breaking energy costs. Thank you eco warriors who want to kill off all energy access to the masses but are cool with subsidizing Tesla’s for millionaires.
The DOW, NASDAC and S&P all have another record close. 😉

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fish

19 July 2017

Posted by: Paul Emery | 19 July 2017 at 11:38 AM
Oh Punchy….you really are the proverbial kid who spends all Christmas morning digging through the pile of manure because with all that shit there just has to be a pony in there somewhere!
Keep swinging for the fences kid!

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Walt

19 July 2017

Saw Stevie’s denial of “voter fraud” in The Union here.
http://www.theunion.com/opinion/norm-sauer-are-california-voters-being-disenfranchised/
“There have been almost no incidents of non-citizens being registered to vote through the Secretary of State. ” Those are Steve’s words.
Really? I know of four right here in GV. (unless ICE has deported them by now)
What a load of BS Steve loves to sell ya’. How about THIS guy Steve? Sen.Kevin de Leon..?
He’s een said “half his family is here illegally, and has used fake documents to reside in this state and to get benefits”. Look it up Stevie.

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Paul Emery

19 July 2017

Green Libertarian all th e way. We don’t need the government to tell us how to live in harmony with the land. It should be part of our culture and spiritual path to respect and maintain mother earth

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fish

19 July 2017

Posted by: Walt | 19 July 2017 at 01:12 PM
Steve’s working the “Narrative Control” desk today Walt! Can I give him a message for you?

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Paul Emery

19 July 2017

You better believe that the Russians have recordings of all Trump-Putin meetings and that they will use them for blackmail to get their fancy digs back that were taken by sanctions. Trump is such a naive idiot and he has a loose mouth on top of that. Howe could he believe he wasn’t being taped?
“President Trump lashed out at a report that he and Russian President Vladimir Putin had a second, previously undisclosed talk during the G-20 summit in Germany earlier this month.”

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Walt

19 July 2017

Ya.. Send the untruthful piece of,,,,, work this.
“LOS ANGELES (CBSLA.com) — A Los Angeles lawmaker leading the fight to make California a so-called “sanctuary state” has suggested half of his family would be deported for using falsified Social Security cards and other fake identification.
California Senate Leader Kevin de Leon made the claims during testimony before the Senate’s Public Safety Committee for SB54, a bill introduced by De Leon that would create a statewide sanctuary for immigrants living in the country illegally.”
ICE should make that “family” target numero uno.

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fish

19 July 2017

Posted by: Paul Emery | 19 July 2017 at 01:29 PM
Tinfoil Depends™…….know em, learn em, wear em!

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Walt

19 July 2017

Give it up Paul McCarthy. You can’t have it both ways. You can’t diss Communism while at the same time trying to persuade people to live under socialist communism.

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fish

19 July 2017

Posted by: Walt | 19 July 2017 at 01:30 PM
Kevin refers to those as “his base”.

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George Boardman

19 July 2017

Well boys, how does it feel to be conned by the snake oil salesmen again? Just give us the White House and Congress and we’ll get rid of Obamacare, they said. Can’t wait for tax reform.
So much for the Tea Party revolution.

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fish

19 July 2017

Posted by: George Boardman | 19 July 2017 at 01:38 PM
Still better than Hillary!

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Walt

19 July 2017

We KNOW it wasn’t going to be easy Boardman. We still have plenty of RINOs to contend with.
A few more elections and they will be an endangered species. They are putting targets on their own backs. You don’t think the voters are paying attention?
Just like the Repub in Sac just committed political suicide. His vote for cap and trade, is going to cost us more than what we get back from the fire tax. Great thinking….

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Paul Emery

19 July 2017

Yeah George B|. Tax reform will be the next Trump Flop. It will be fun to watch what they come up with to compensate for the so called savings they won’t have because of the failure of Trumpcare. Flop Flop The Flops keep on coming

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Don Bessee

19 July 2017

Just as I was reading the party parrot talking points from the po’ ol’ fakenewsman @129 I was watching the video of the dinner were all the G20 were milling and chatting like all the rest. Keep confirming your sad tired po’ ol’ fakenewsman status. Time for new fakenewsman pearls? 😉

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fish

19 July 2017

Posted by: Paul Emery | 19 July 2017 at 01:50 PM
Boy howdy…that ain’t the half of it! Wait to we get to the debt ceiling fight……!
…..and the best thing……the absolute best thing is that….all the tactics, all the publicity stunts that the dems are using now are going to be turned back on them the next time they’re in power!
Truly the best of times!

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Walt

19 July 2017

There is new hope for Progressives.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4710672/Man-wants-bring-BRAIN-DEAD-life.html

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ScenesFromTheApocalypse

19 July 2017

“Wait to we get to the debt ceiling fight……!”
Everyone will give in after a bit of posturing.
The endgame is pretty obvious I think. Over time, lots of new entitlements without funding sources, entitlements never go away due to general bitching by population, economy never grows fast enough to pay off new debt, eventually the real bond market (ie. sales to outsiders) collapses and/or the currency radically drops in value. Hilarity ensues. Green Libertarians explain how it should have been done better. Paul reports on Barron Trump’s poll numbers.

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Todd Juvinall

19 July 2017

I love all this political stuff. Wash DC politicians have given us 80,000 pages of Tax laws, 20 trillion in the people’s debt, welfare and illegal immigrants up the wazoo. 100,000 pages of regulations just in the last couple of years and a health insurance system that has failed miserably. Yet Trump, there for 6 months is a whipping boy for those like PE and GB becasue he hasn’t fixed it all yet. Ot looks to me like PE and GB ar just fine with all that has come before. They are simply status quo politcal lemmings.

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Don Bessee

19 July 2017

I suppose the subjects will be dead dem voters @ 222?
Since the po’ ol’ pollhead already has his pearls firmly clutched in his paw lets get guns in the conversation.
Chicago is nearly 3 times as dangerous as Afghanistan. Afghanistan has a 5 / 100k violent death rate. Chicago has a 13.5 / 100k. In the 90’s chi town cleared nearly 70% of murders, last year the close rate was 20%. SO is it the guns or the pathetically weak democrat PC administrations that are to blame? 😉

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fish

19 July 2017

Posted by: ScenesFromTheApocalypse | 19 July 2017 at 02:43 PM
Everyone will give in after a bit of posturing.
Ooooh……I hate it when you’re right!

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Bill Tozer

19 July 2017

Walt.
New hope for progressives? Whatever drugs you are on, pass some over this way. 🙂
“Sensing an opportunity to appeal to minority communities, in 2015, while running for London Mayor, Sadiq Khan vowed to “do everything in my power to cut stop and search”.
In the year to the end of March 2016, there were 387,448 stop and search procedures conducted by police in England and Wales, a fall of 28% on the previous 12 months.
In that same period, London’s Metropolitan Police announced that gun crime in London had soared 42% and knife crime 24%. Recorded crime was up across virtually every category, with a total 4.5% increase to nearly 774,737 offences.”
And that ain’t even the half of it,
https://heatst.com/culture-wars/politically-correct-london-is-becoming-a-global-laughing-stock/?mod=sm_fb_post

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Bill Tozer

19 July 2017

Scenes @ 11:12 am penned:
I’m working on slogans here, how about:

“Green Libertarianism means never having to say you’re sorry”

Oh Scenes, have I got a slogan for you. As a bonus, it’s an oxymoron slogan! “All can, No man”. Short, sweet, and 100% contradictory. Perfect in its stupidity and short enough to slap on a small bummer sticker.
“The feminist street art project, unofficially described as “All can; No Man”, painted murals in low-income areas of Parkdale in Toronto.”
https://heatst.com/culture-wars/toronto-women-only-mural-event-attacked-for-partnering-with-cops-perpetuating-violence/?mod=sm_fb_post

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Don Bessee

19 July 2017

Gun crime up 42% in the oh so PC London. Who could have seen that one coming, apparently not jihadi Kahn and communist DeBlasio. 😉

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George Boardman

19 July 2017

But Todd, the Repubs have been promising for more than 7 years to repeal Obamacare. How hard can it be when you control the White House, Senate and House? Apparently too hard for this bunch.

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