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Sandbox – 27jun17

27 June 2017

[Fresh sand for the free for all. Anyone want to review the latest clinical evidence that liberals/progressives process critical thought with different parts of the brain than do conservatives/libertarians? gjr]

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236 responses to “Sandbox – 27jun17”

George Rebane

27 June 2017

Well here’s the proof everyone has been looking for that it was all Trump’s fault.
https://www.youtube.com/embed/UkcxeJCPgz0

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Don Bessee

27 June 2017

Ahhhhh fresh kitty litter. 😉

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Todd Juvinall

27 June 2017

Pelline is denying he is a far left liberal. You cannot make this stuff up.

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George Boardman

27 June 2017

Talk about your basic disconnect!
The Republican leadership in the Senate is trying to keep its health care bill off life support. What is Trump doing to help the cause?
Nothing. He’s too busy unloading on CNN for doing the right thing because, as we all know, it’s all about The Donald.
No wonder the Republicans can’t get any major legislation passed.

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Todd Juvinall

27 June 2017

Wait until the bribery begins. Things will move along quite fast. LOL!

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Gregory

27 June 2017

Yes, Pelline is in denial about his politics… I recall he ignored questions in the past about just what GOP presidential, senatorial or gubernatorial candidates he’d supported in the past. None is my guess. No Jeff, declining to state a party preference when registering to vote, and claiming to vote for centrist candidates for non partisan offices doesn’t make for a true middle of the roader.
He’s also living bigly through his kid, dragging him to visit colleges and attending all sorts of enrichment programs with them, this time at Sac State. He adds,
“We also are raising a straight-A student and making important contributions to the schools”
Isn’t that special?

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Russ

27 June 2017

Experts Say Liberal And Conservative Brains Are Wired Differently
This is a little old but I have not seen any recent science to refute the findings, perhaps other readers can fill in the gap.
In addition to casting different votes at the ballot box, it’s no secret that liberals and conservatives view the world differently. There’s even some evidence that they prefer different beers.
But the divide goes quite a bit deeper, according to new research. Liberals and conservatives use different cognitive strategies to solve non-political problems, Northwestern University researchers report in a new study published in the Quarterly Journal of Experimental Psychology.
We already know that the moral profiles of liberals and conservatives are different, according to a previous 2015 study: Liberals tend to value equality, fairness and protecting the vulnerable, while conservatives emphasize patriotism, group loyalty, respect for authority and moral purity.
But this new research finds that the differences extend to basic problem solving and learning.
“Conservatives tend to be more structured, rigid and to prefer clear answers, whereas liberals have a higher tolerance of ambiguity and complexity and greater openness,” Carola Salvi, lead author of the study and a postdoctoral fellow in cognitive psychology at Northwestern and the Rehabilitation Institute of Chicago, told The Huffington Post.
The rest of the article is HERE.
If this was not enough evidence, the comments on this blog by liberals, semi-liberals, and conservatives demonstrates that thinking patterns are vastly different, much along the lines described in the article. Conservatives strive for clarity, while liberals bury their arguments in ambiguity and complexity.

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George Rebane

27 June 2017

A little local news appropriately buried in one of our comment streams – one of my spies in St Helena reports that Nevada City Manager Mark Prestwich will be leaving our fair town for more lucrative ($220K/yr) climes in the wine country. This was announced at the St Helena City Council meeting. Apparently no one here has yet thought it important enough to publicize this. I have no idea where Mr Prestwich’s ‘hail and farewell’ party will be held, nor whom the Nevada City mamas and papas have found to fill his shoes. On other blogs this might have been more prominently featured as a “scooplet” 😉

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Todd Juvinall

27 June 2017

You scooped the FUE!

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Don Bessee

27 June 2017

Well done sir @ 913.
I am catching up on the news shows and have been really enjoying that the 1% er comrade Bernie the free tuition guy and his wife are being shown to be in the middle of a fraud.
A 10 million dollar loan application under false pretenses ( a crime in itself) and comrade Bernie using his influence to advance approval of an application that was a fraud.
Hey it only bankrupted and closed a university. Now we really get a clue of what comrade bernies university plan would do in the real world.

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Bill Tozer

28 June 2017

This is precious:
“We are bullied and browbeaten every day, and I pretty much have had enough of it,” he said. “We can’t take the bullying anymore. It’s undermining the fourth estate, it’s undermining the first amendment.”
http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/angry-white-house-reporter-i-cant-take-it-anymore/article/2627291

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Bill Tozer

28 June 2017

i just love it when they good money down the draiin.
https://heatst.com/politics/democrats-are-so-out-of-touch-that-they-just-appointed-a-chairwoman-of-heartland-engagement/?mod=sm_fb_post

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Bill Tozer

28 June 2017

Laughs of the day….and the day is still young.
https://www.facebook.com/RowdyConservatives/photos/a.217983685002343.55586.217926015008110/1116445575156145/?type=3&theater
https://www.facebook.com/RowdyConservatives/photos/a.217983685002343.55586.217926015008110/1117394995061203/?type=3&theater

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Gregory

28 June 2017

Fake “newsman” making stuff up again… in response to my 7:24PM above, he wrote:

jeffpelline says:
June 27, 2017 at 10:11 pm
I like it when Greg Goodnight, the global warming denier, thinks I’m far left. Of course, Greg. Spoken like a true global warming denier. lol.

Personally, I like it when Jeff makes stuff up (misspelling names as he goes) and gets caught… no Jeff, that’s not what I wrote or thought. I do expect you are a solid left of center Democratic Party partisan, but hard left? Well, only if Rebane is hard right, and he arguably isn’t.
Jeff, no one thinks you are an award winning journalist, loosen your belt and let your politics hang out.
Regarding the gratuitous “denier” label, time is on my side.

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Jeff Pelline

28 June 2017

Gregory,
I am an award winning journalist. Are you still jobless?

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fish

28 June 2017

This is what scares Punchy so much….that the D.C. Status quo is in trouble!

“Permanent Washington has changed over time, in ways that at first blush might seem friendlier to the Trumps. Over the past few decades, the old Georgetown—epitomized by people like the late Post owner Katharine Graham and hostess Evangeline Bruce—has largely given way to the flashier, less aristocratic world of social mixers like political and media consultants Tammy Haddad and Juleanna Glover. Where the Georgetown of the 1960s was a world of Andover and Choate grads and inherited wealth, today’s D.C. macher class is a meritocracy of sorts, as likely to feature self-made strivers from state schools as it is the scions of Harvard and Yale. That might seem friendlier territory for the Trumps, given their nouveau-riche vibe, but it hasn’t worked out that way. While both old Georgetown and modern This Town lean strongly Democratic, even longtime Republicans say they feel a different kind of chill between Trump’s Washington and social Washington. One veteran of George W. Bush’s White House with deep connections to the city’s media and lobbying scenes says of the Trump team: ‘They wear our scorn as a badge of honor.’ ”

The same old “This Town” antics…..that’s what your “Green Libertarian” is defending in his ongoing feeble attacks on the present administration!
You’d think that he would be more in favor of an outsider like President Wrecking Ball, even one he opposes philosophically, just to put the D.C. insider class off their stride for a few years…..but no….not our Punchy!
Mr. Status Quo to his very core!
http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2017/06/27/this-town-during-trump-presidency-215304

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George Rebane

28 June 2017

Re my 913pm, this morning (28jun17) our Union reported Mr Prestwich’s resignation here –
http://www.theunion.com/news/nevada-citys-city-manager-announces-resignation/

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fish

28 June 2017

Posted by: Jeff Pelline | 28 June 2017 at 10:22 AM
“Award winning journalist”?
Is that anything like a “World renowned coffee retrieval specialist” or “Nationally recognized Herb Caen name dropper”?

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Todd Juvinall

28 June 2017

Fish, now that’s funny! And now that professional award is blessing our community.

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Paul Emery

28 June 2017

For your reading pleasure Trump favoability poll-down to 35. Soon he may even rival Bush as the lowest ever. The Repubs sure know how to pick um .
Quinnipiac University. May 31-June 6, 2017. N=1,361 registered voters nationwide. Margin of error ± 3.2.
“Is your opinion of Donald Trump favorable, unfavorable or haven’t you heard enough about him?”
Favorable 35% Unfavorable 60% don’t know 5%

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Paul Emery

28 June 2017

GOP flop of the week-healthcare. Where was Trump?
“Senators left the meeting perplexed at what will come next, and people close to McConnell don’t fully comprehend how his strategy will play out, according to interviews with senators, aides and Republican operatives.
Even Senate Majority Whip John Cornyn (R-Texas), McConnell’s deputy and perhaps his closest ally, admitted that he was a “little bit” surprised at the decision. Cornyn had said the vote was on just minutes before.”
http://www.politico.com/story/2017/06/27/senate-obamacare-repeal-republicans-240023

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fish

28 June 2017

Posted by: Paul Emery | 28 June 2017 at 11:06 AM
GOP flop of the week-healthcare. Where was Trump?
God protects drunks, children, feeble old “newsmen” and the GOP from folly! Now Obamacare can remain law and die the horrible death it has always been destined for!
Now…..on to tax relief!

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Gregory

28 June 2017

Golly, Jeff, and here I thought you’d given up journalism to sell adverts in a glossy pennysaver. Back at the ‘Frisco Chronicle, are you?
I’m coding what I want to code, Jeff, have an income that covers the house and airplane expenses and, according to my bank when I checked Sunday, have a FICO score of 842/850. But thanks for asking.
Now, how about that retraction you owe me and your readers for your error. A simple acknowledgement that I didn’t call you “hard left” would be acceptable.

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Todd Juvinall

28 June 2017

Trump is doing great. The American people don’t belive the polls so you are whistling past the graveyard. Healtcare on again today. They got my Tweet!

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Larry Wirth

28 June 2017

Key assumption gone wrong? The Russians favored Trump over Hillary. Can someone please ‘splain me why that should be so? ‘Cause if you can’t, the whole sick narrative goes Poof!
L

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Larry Wirth

28 June 2017

I didn’t hear Trump to “be more flexible after..” or promise to sell 20% of US uranium in exchange for a donation to the Trump Foundation, did I?
L

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Gregory

28 June 2017

“Now Gregory claims I’m not “far left”; that I’m a “solid left of center Democratic Party partisan.”
No, Jeff, not good enough. Try again. I didn’t write you were “far left”. You can do it, just actually report without making stuff up.

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Gregory

28 June 2017

Oh, and Jeff, those scare quotes around “assets”… as in “I’m eyeing those big “assets” of yours that “cover the house and airplane””
I didn’t say anything about assets. Another fake quote from you. Batting .000 a’gin, big guy.

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Todd Juvinall

28 June 2017

But he is far left. The few people he knows tell me that.

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Bill Tozer

28 June 2017

1)Now Todd, don’t feed the puppies. Like the FUE, they are stuffed already.
2) Anybody see hide not hair from Mr. Dozer or lowercase john smith? Little jon. It’s like they done jumped off the overpass that eventful night in early November. Silence is golden, Hey, I kept telling them it is not wise to remove the armor before the battle begins, as I tell all those whose assesment is chalk full of a high degree of confidence. Did they listen? No. Maybe they did not jump off the overpass. Maybe it was Lovers’ Leap. Bet there is one Turkish fellow out there that is heartbroken…or relieved. 🙂
3). Picture time (filler).
https://www.facebook.com/RowdyConservatives/photos/a.217983685002343.55586.217926015008110/1116433525157350/?type=3&theater
https://www.facebook.com/RowdyConservatives/photos/a.217983685002343.55586.217926015008110/1116139625186740/?type=3&theater

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Todd Juvinall

28 June 2017

They are sock puppets and Paul Emery ate them.

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George Boardman

28 June 2017

Pelline claims he voted for LaMalfa. It must have been when he ran against Heidi Hall. LOL, as they say.

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Todd Juvinall

28 June 2017

No one believes that except his sock puppets. He is a Alt-lefty.

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Bill Tozer

28 June 2017

Somebody got some ‘splaining to do.
http://circa.com/politics/fbi-chief-andrew-mccabe-faces-three-separate-federal-inquiries-into-his-behavior

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Jeff Pelline

28 June 2017

George,
I know you’re not too bright. But in 2012, LaMalfa ran against Jim Reed. I voted for Doug. Did you not recall that? Have a warm glass of milk and take a nap!
Gregory,
I never said you “wrote” anything. I said you thought something, which you deny. And I am not a “solid left of center Democratic Party partisan,” either. Over the years, I have voted for Republicans including LaMalfa (once), Bush (once), and Regan. In local races I also have voted for registered Republicans (such as Nate Beason).
This blog is filled with extremist comments from the right, so It’s hard for all of you to imagine that your “opposite” is merely “in the middle.” Go figure.

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Bill Tozer

28 June 2017

I remember back when the whispers were buzzing that President Obama was going to have Debbie Whatzername replaced as DNC chair. Debbie’s response was immediate, unsettle, and clear. If Obama tried to replace her, she would play the gender card and scream “Obama is a misogynist from the rooftops”. Obama reasoned it was not worth the battle and let it ride.
All that to say is you could see this coming a mile away. Forget the lies she said. Look at the real reason she is under the gun, I. e., gender bias.
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/06/28/susan-rice-suggests-race-gender-bias-
linked-to-unmasking-backlash.html
Trigger warning: F Bombs. Read at your own risk. Hey, anybody know who the acting FBI Director is?
https://www.facebook.com/lastamericapatriots/photos/a.235087906641439.1073741826.235086849974878/875947719222118/?type=3&theater

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Bill Tozer

28 June 2017

Opps, broken link from 1:35 pm. Try this one
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/06/28/susan-rice-suggests-race-gender-bias-linked-to-unmasking-backlash.html
Must be a slow news day. The Pillsbury Doughboy got up and waddled over here. Hmmm. He must be longing for the good old Mayberry, RFD days ever since somebody stole his kid’s bicycle from the yard across the tracks over in Quaintytown. I bet Barnie was hot on the trail. Even made the police blotter. Guess NIMBYs is just shorthand for yearning for reruns of Father Knows Best.
Pssst, someone please tell he/she that the chair is still wedged to his/her. backside. It’s the least we can do.

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Walt

28 June 2017

How many of you actually believe this is job of LIB news?
http://www.breitbart.com/radio/2017/06/28/caddell-on-cnn-fake-news-scandal-networks-believe-its-their-right-to-tell-you-who-you-must-vote-for/
” “You want to tell me that that’s the way media should operate? They believe that it is their right to tell you who you must vote for and by the way to decide what truth you may, or may not know. And anything that counters what they want you to believe they don’t cover.”
Well, that’s how LIBS get elected. A good example of how “O” got elected. (and maybe why ol’ Bernie got the shaft.)

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Bill Tozer

28 June 2017

Education is back in the news.
https://heatst.com/culture-wars/stanford-prof-saying-your-homework-was-easy-is-a-microaggression/?mod=sm
https://www.facebook.com/RowdyConservatives/photos/a.217983685002343.55586.217926015008110/1116851741782195/?type=3&theater

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Gregory

28 June 2017

peeline 1:34
“I said you thought something”
Jeff, loosen that tin foil skullcap… your powers of distance ESP to people you’ve never actually met are being attenuated. Since I never wrote that, didn’t say that and didn’t think that, your problem, if it was based on what I wrote here, seems to be reporting with a lack of rigor in the use of inductive and deductive logic with written English.
Unless you can document your spidey senses about what people you’ve never met are thinking, you might stop digging that hole you’ve dug. You reported to your lickspittles (I love that word but rarely have a chance to use it) that I thought that based only on the comment I left here.
What office was the “Regan” running for when you voted for them? Or is that another misspelling of yours?
Nothing “extreme right” here, and I still rank left-libertarian (nearly anarchist) on most Nolan Chart quizzes. Pro-choice on just about everything. Sorry, Jeff, but if all the folks here look “extreme right” to you, I probably need to rethink your place on the political spectrum because you’re observing from a point farther to the left than I thought.

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Jeff Pelline

28 June 2017

Gregory,
Weren’t you sitting in my living room when your son was applying for a Cal Gold Country scholarship?

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Gregory

28 June 2017

No, Jeff, I didn’t set foot into your house, and we’ve been over that before. I had a conflict and you have a false memory.
My son, by the way, graduated from Cal as a Regent’s and Chancellor’s Scholar with High Honors and the Sagebarth Prize (one of two awarded each year) from the Dept. of Chemistry. Phi Beta Kappa. Just wondering, how did the kid(s) you picked do?

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Gregory

28 June 2017

Didn’t look right so I looked it up… it’s the Erich O. & Elly M. Saegebarth Prize in Chemistry.

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Jeff Pelline

28 June 2017

Are you sure? Well, I’m certain that they’re not “independent … at my place.”

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Jeff Pelline

28 June 2017

Yes, you got it right the second time. And there’s a lesson for you in that award: “Although she is extremely smart, Michelle doesn’t let her success go to her head,” said her grandmother Sandy Alpert. “She is actually a delightfully humble girl.”
http://www.theacorn.com/news/2013-05-30/Community/18yearold_earns_dual_degrees_from_UC_Berkeley.html

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Gregory

28 June 2017

What are you babbling about now, Jeff? My description of what I do now? The question was not a current job title, real or imagined, it’s did they graduate?
I’m guessing selling advertising in a glossy pennysaver isn’t what you were dreaming of when you were fetching Caen’s coffee every morning.

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Jeff Pelline

28 June 2017

Gregory,
I was a staff writer and editor at The Chronicle for 12 years. (You need to retract your statement “fetching Caen’s coffee every morning.”)
And in the foothills, I am thrilled to be publishing a magazine (in print and online) that is growing, solidly profitable and supports our region.
You sound like a real sad person. Belittling others to make yourself look smart. I hope you get some counseling some day.

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Paul Emery

28 June 2017

Jeff
Gregory is actually a pretty nice guy but you wouldn’t know it by following his blats on this blog.

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Todd Juvinall

28 June 2017

And Paul Emery is not a nice person or liked by anyone anywhere. But I am well loved by many.

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Paul Emery

28 June 2017

Trump is running out of steam
“When you have a 35 percent approval rating and you’re under FBI investigation, you don’t have a hammer,”“When you have a 35 percent approval rating and you’re under FBI investigation, you don’t have a hammer,” said GOP consultant John Weaver.
Trump’s meeting with Republican senators appears to have changed little about the health care bill’s fortunes, although it’s not dead yet.
“The House health care vote shows he does have juice, particularly with people on the right,” said Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-SC) said. “The Senate health care vote shows that people feel that health care is a defining issue and that it’d be pretty hard for any politician to push a senator into taking a vote that’s going to have consequences for the rest of their life.”
A reporter asked Graham whether he personally feared Trump, who once gave out the senator’s cell phone number on the campaign trail.
“Graham chuckled before saying, ‘No,’” the Post reported.

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