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[Well, there you have it.  Former FBI director Comey is a politician for all seasons.  Where else can you find a man who can deliver to both sides of a terminally divided Washington a smorgasbord version of events that can concurrently bring pleasure if not outright glee to both sides of the aisle?  Everyone found much to like in what he said – a tour de force performance by the now ever copasetic, cautiously comportable (yet cowardly?) Comey.  gjr]

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190 responses to “Sandbox – 9jun17”

  1. Walt Avatar

    Since EVERYTHING is based on leaked material, and “unnamed sources”, IF there were ANY tapes they would have been leaked by now. The W.H. is still full of feral Trump haters looking to take him down. Yet nothing. Did the current “deepthroat” choke on the bone?
    HELL.. The Comey doc.s have even yet to see the light of day.
    But good news. F&F is back in the news and the investigation is back. You won’t hear that on Prog news.
    The LIBS “smoking gun” is full of blanks.

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  2. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    Walt, The biggest scandal and threat to our Constitution and democracy is the surveillance by the Deep State on everything private citizens say or type. Every keystroke, every transmitted word is captured and no safeguards in place. Spying on an opposing political campaign for unadulterated political purposes is unconscionable. What O & Co did since last July….well, expect crickets from the MSM and their subordinate underling right arm soldiers, aka, the Democrat Party, to turn it into “nothing to see here.” It’s up to those who swore the oath to protect the Constitution against all enemies foreign and domestic to keep bring it to light.
    It’s up to the true libertarians, patriots, and Deplorables now.

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  3. ScenesFromTheApocalypse Avatar
    ScenesFromTheApocalypse

    ” Spying on an opposing political campaign for unadulterated political purposes is unconscionable.”
    It quickly transforms into the intelligence community being it’s own political party. Having the goods on absolutely everybody is too powerful a tool to not use.
    It’s a bummer how the Green Libertarians are siding with these people due to Trumphate, but there’s nothing to be done about it.
    The Soviets, at least, seemed to come to an accommodation with it’s intelligence people by making them co-equal partners with the Army and the Party. At this point, I’d say there’s every chance that the US spy agencies will become the only party in a one-legged stool.

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  4. Don Bessee Avatar
    Don Bessee

    It looks like the eco warrior has a full blown TURDS eruption, must have gotten it from the po’ ol’ pollhead. You know its a bad case when they start spewing about he constitution and our founding fathers. The same folks who regularly make up ‘rights’, you know like the right to free stuff and healthcare is a right. You cant make this stuff up.;-)

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  5. fish Avatar
    fish

    Posted by: Steve Frisch | 11 June 2017 at 08:06 AM
    Embracing the values of this President is tantamount to a rejection of so many bedrock American values ensconced in our constitution and founding principles that I wonder if you guys really know how alien you have become.

    Wow….it really is the last refuge of the scoundrel!

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  6. Todd Juvinall Avatar
    Todd Juvinall

    Yesah that Trump fellow. Has no idea about anything yet is the president. And where is Frisch? Living in a cave in Truckee with his white only staff. What a guy. Preaching to us. You cannot make this stuff up.

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  7. Steve Frisch Avatar
    Steve Frisch

    Here is a pretty cogent description of the threat….and why I am concerned.
    https://www.commentarymagazine.com/articles/end-free-world/

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  8. Don Bessee Avatar
    Don Bessee

    What is interesting is that while the left are recovering from Comy’s dud and flooding their networks with pearl clutching things are afoot. Almost no coverage of the progress on the repeal of 0 care in the Senate and the idea of blending the tax and health insurance bills into one big package. It only takes 50 votes. Wouldn’t that be fun to watch them slide this through while everyone on the left is still talking about their failed Russian narrative? 😉

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  9. fish Avatar
    fish

    Posted by: Don Bessee | 11 June 2017 at 12:50 PM
    Almost no coverage of the progress on the repeal of 0 care in the Senate and the idea of blending the tax and health insurance bills into one big package.

    It’s a huge mistake! Should have let Obamacare twist in the wind for another 18 months or so! The idiot democrats would be begging to repeal it!
    Tax reform should have come first!

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  10. Gregory Avatar
    Gregory

    “Just to be clear I was the first one here to note the Turley dissent. I could do the list of note…
    Steve Frisch”
    Posted by: Steve Frisch | 10 June 2017 at 02:42 PM
    So Steven, that list of note includes that great legal mind, The BPI Squirrel? A link to the Squirrel’s screed on Comey’s leak was one of the three you’ve provided to date… there’s no Wikipedia article I can find as to the Squirrel’s bona fides… perhaps you can help us?
    No, you weren’t “the first one here” to cite Turley regarding Comey, Stevie. This guy was:
    Gregory | 08 June 2017 at 02:52 PM
    Was that a lie, or did you just have your head in a very dark place when you wrote it? And it wasn’t a “dissent”, it was Turley stating his reading of the law and of Comey’s words; it was your handwaving about the preponderance of opinions that you’d found (including the moose-less land-bound BPI (Bullcrap Progressive Institute) Squirrel) that you used to declare Turley the odd man out.
    Was watching Friday’s Morning Joe a few minutes ago and, lo and behold!, Jonathan Turley was on the panel and he made the same points, including that “as a defense attorney I thinks he’s pretty damaged goods were he to be put on the stand”. Hard to pretend to be a squeaky clean boy scout when you’re taking your work product left behind at the FBI and sending it over to a buddy to read to an NYT reporter.
    The BPI Squirrel was not there to present the overwhelmingly dominant view from the rabidly progressive blogosphere.

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  11. Don Bessee Avatar
    Don Bessee

    Agreed Fish @ 1258. 😉

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  12. Steve Frisch Avatar
    Steve Frisch

    Posted by: Gregory | 11 June 2017 at 01:04 PM
    Hey Greg, I can’t be expected to be up on all of the ranting that goes on here….you may have mentioned it somewhere on June 8th at 2:52 PM but this thread started on June 9th at about 10 AM.
    Here is what you could do Greg, go to the hundreds of articles written on the legality of the Comey memo and look at the people cited in those articles…..hundreds….
    As I stated previously, it is just like your climate position, if one guy disagrees he is a God. I usually agree with Turely…on this I don’t and neither do most legal analysis.

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  13. Steve Frisch Avatar
    Steve Frisch

    BTW, Greg, I pretty clearly pointed Paul to the blogs with the caveat that citations and links were included embedded within them…perfect example of you twisting shit just to be prickly.

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  14. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    Hey, it won’t be long before People of Color and Colored Folks tell white liberal professors to shove it and they are the enemy. Right now the Left hates white rural Americans and conservatives….and Christians….and veterans…and and and……
    I long for the day when Paul and Steve and Hilary Hodge are all painted with that broad brush (that includes you, Boardman and Crabb) and we are all brought to bear for the sin of White Priviledge or some other crime against humanity.
    Any person with two brain cells let to rub together can only conclude that the biggest threat today to women’s rights, Gay and Lesbo rights, free speech, separation of Church and State and a boatload of Constitutional protections is not the Christian Right…..nay, it is Islam. Second place goes to the intolerate Alt-Left. Go ahead and bash the bitter clingers. Tomorrow they will be bashing you…..not for the content of your character, but for the color of your skin. First, former Homeland Security’s Janet Nappie-pooh’s religious test. Sperate and unequal dorms (segregation) are being built as fast as they can. Tell me again, Lefties, about the Constitution.
    http://conservativetribune.com/bernie-christian-deny-faith-islam/?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=TheFederalistPapers&utm_content=2017-06-08&utm_campaign=manualpost
    https://www.facebook.com/312568048894043/photos/a.539434579540721.1073741829.312568048894043/826127720871404/?type=3&theater
    https://www.facebook.com/RowdyConservatives/photos/a.217983685002343.55586.217926015008110/1088956954571674/?type=3&theater

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  15. Gregory Avatar
    Gregory

    “this thread started on June 9th” -Frisch
    This thread is the current sandbox. My cite of Turley’s blog was on the then current sandbox… from which the current thread began. In the future if you want to make grand pronouncements of “me, me, I was first”, you might check. To get an ordered list, I entered “Turley” in the search box in the upper left sidebar and asked for the results be ordered by “most recent”.
    Frisch, it was your choice to manufacture Turley as an outlier. “Morning Joe” S. didn’t refute him Friday morning and if you want to argue Comey’s work product as FBI Director was not literally and legally owned by the FBI he was legally fired from, go right ahead. That point, also made on Friday’s Morning Joe by Maine Sen. Collins, does not seem to be in dispute by anyone who isn’t working tirelessly to eject Trump from office. Me, I can wait until one of two things happens… 1) something that actually ties Trump to an impeachable high crime and misdemeanor, or 2) losing a reelection race in November 2020.

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  16. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    Rewrite history:
    “Comey did not say exactly what he believed was incorrect about the article,” the reporters write in their explanation, speculating he was referring to how the paper described the Russians involved or possibly the form of evidence collected by intelligence officials. It’s true Comey didn’t specify exactly what was wrong. But did he have to?
    He clearly and repeatedly stated the story is almost entirely false. He also said that when the news broke, he was so troubled that he actually double checked with the intelligence community to make sure he wasn’t missing something. It seems unlikely a dispute over what is technically a Russian intelligence official or how the evidence was gathered would prompt such a response.
    http://dailycaller.com/2017/06/09/theres-something-off-about-the-new-york-times-defense-of-report-comey-called-false/?utm_campaign=atdailycaller&utm_source=Twitter&utm_medium=Social

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  17. Steve Frisch Avatar
    Steve Frisch

    “…if you want to argue Comey’s work product as FBI Director was not literally and legally owned by the FBI he was legally fired from, go right ahead. ”
    Well since I have been saying that from the very beginning I guess I can can’t I?
    You think you are the only one who watches Morning Joe….I saw Turley Friday too….ohers on the program disputed his interpretation…they just did not do it head to head.
    As I said, I brought Turely up on my own….I was not trolling your comments from past days…

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  18. Todd Juvinall Avatar
    Todd Juvinall

    The democrats are desperate for a victory. They are targeting Georgia 6. I received this plea today. The left has set a record and remember these are the same people that want Citizen’s United booted. Hypocrites all.
    Ossoff Raises $15M
    Nancy Pelosi’s handpicked, anti-Trump candidate has reported a record-breaking total of $23 million in the race for Georgia’s 6th Congressional District.
    And Friend, this couldn’t have come at a worse time, with only 9 days until the most important election of 2017 so far.
    We can’t allow the Democrats to buy their way into Congress, especially not into a seat that has been red for over 30 years.
    To defend this Republican stronghold on June 20, 2017, we must raise $242,498 to turn out every Trump voter.

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  19. Don Bessee Avatar
    Don Bessee

    Comey has shown himself to be an absolute dolt. How does a trained lawyer who had all the positions he did topping out as FBI director say under oath the Presidents tweet drove him to leak when the tweet came after the NYT article? 😉

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  20. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    Oh my, SNL got it right for once. A snowflake named Max.
    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=yfCCwEf_J5A

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  21. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    “Thursday we learned that as of May 9, the day James Comey was fired, President Trump was never under investigation by the FBI. (As Senator Marco Rubio pointed out, this is the one piece of information about the FBI investigation into Russia that somehow never leaked. It is hard to believe that the leakers’ decision to withhold the most exculpatory fact is a coincidence.)” —Jim Geraghty

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  22. Scott Obermuller Avatar

    When Lynch said that she and Clinton were just talking about their grand kids when they ‘bumped into’ each other on the tarmac, folks like Frisch just nodded their heads and said – “they just bumped into each other and talked about their grand kids”.
    Right, Frisch?
    Go ahead – just try to answer that one.
    Crickets.

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  23. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    Lynch does not have any grandkids. 45 minutes of talking about golf? Heck, I never knew a golfer that talks even 20 minutes max about golfing. More like 5 minutes. They like to get out there and play, not talk about it, IMHO.
    I still think Bubba got some brown sugar down In Arizona. Seal the deal. Good thing the only one accomplaining AG Lynch on the trip was her ever present physician…just in case she got overheated. Wonder if Loretta got a STD test afterwards. After flying on the Lolita Express, who knows what kind of tropical bacteria Bubba could have picked up.

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  24. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    All this bickering. Did he do the bad thing or did he not? Let’s see what the enlightened experts have to say?
    https://heatst.com/culture-wars/iowa-university-professor-says-white-marble-actually-influences-white-supremacist-ideas/?mod=sm_fb_post

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  25. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    Where in the heck are today’s polls???? There is no taking a day off from Resist! I don’t care if the nation has protest fatigue or not, a solemn vow is a solemn vow. Chop, chop. Bring us the polls! What, you can’t even last a few months? Geeze.
    Yo, Tag Team Steve. Take over for the beat down boxer and deliver the goods. The polls have not been arriving as scheduled and promised. Help your partner out. Hmmm. Hope he paid his internet bill.

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  26. Gregory Avatar
    Gregory

    Frisch
    “ohers [sic] on the program disputed his interpretation…they just did not do it head to head.”
    Who was that, Steven? Pelosi? did she get the decade right?
    “As I said, I brought Turely up on my own….I was not trolling your comments from past days…”
    BS Steven, you were claiming you had been the first to mention Turley in response to me quoting him. Again.
    It is interesting you bring AGW into the mix… yes, once again, you seem it fixate on the numbers of people you hear speaking on the issue on your favored information channels. I quoted Turley, a noted legal scholar, you gave a link to a piece by that famed legal beagle, the BPI Squirrel. I quote the issues suggested by Turley, you mention there are 100’s of people you’re read about agreeing with the BPI Squirrel.
    Similarly, I quote the scientists whose arguments I find convincing regarding climate issues and why, you argue the numbers of universities you’ve attended climate confabs and all the smart people you heard that had smart things to say about why they are right… but you don’t seem to have the knack to actually discuss the arguments they made.
    Why is that, Steven?

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  27. MikeL Avatar
    MikeL

    Re Steve F June 11 12:42…
    I looked at the article that you sighted to give you worry about the supposed Trump threat. Bernie Sanders could just as easily be substituted for TeaRump in the populism paragraph… ‘Populism, at its heart, gives rise to the contention that the little man is being swindled by powerful elites’. Lefties say this all the time about Wallymart, evil corporations and the one percenters and others deemed to not paying their fair share of the taxes, ala Bernie sanders.. Now, because of trump derangement, it a bad thing to bring up the fact that certain NATO members are not paying their fair share.
    Regarding the alleged nasty phone call between TeaRump and the Austrailian pm…what I heard is that Austaila keeps illegal aliens who try to sneak into their county on some island and Obama and company made a deal to import these illegal aliens into the US. Trumper didn’t think this was such a good deal for the US and said we would not be taking any more of these exports from the land down under. Oh the horror!
    I am glad you do see the threat to the free world caused by Obama and company as was pointed out near the end of the article.

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  28. Don Bessee Avatar
    Don Bessee

    Gregory @ 1139- Loved the last paragraph, group think is so self reinforcing. 😉

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  29. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer
  30. George Rebane Avatar

    BillT 218pm – These are inter-civilizational atrocities. Are any lamestream outlets reporting them?

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  31. Todd Juvinall Avatar
    Todd Juvinall

    Russ Steele, you need to get over there and get these true believers on track.
    http://www.theunion.com/opinion/letters/peter-arnold-on-trumps-decision-to-defect-from-paris-accord/

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  32. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    You can’t make this up:
    Vice President Mike Pence next month will address Christians United for Israel, a group founded by megachurch Pastor John Hagee, who once said Hitler was a “hunter” sent by God to expedite the return of Jews to Israel.
    http://www.rawstory.com/2017/06/pence-to-speak-at-conference-hosted-by-pastor-who-claims-god-created-hitler-to-hunt-down-the-jews/

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  33. Russ Avatar

    Sarah Hoyt is a little upset with Weather.com
    SO, I’M NO LONGER USING WEATHER.COM. I COULD TAKE CLICK BAIT. I COULD TAKE THEIR LESS THAN STELLAR WEATHER PREDICTIONS: But this stupid, ham-handed insertion of politics, using stupid science as a justification, I will not take. (Even if the Paris agreement did anything to reduce global warming; even if anthropogenic causes of global warming were true, it would be approximately 10000 years before we saw any effect. I guess Trump is supposed to be immortal.) Oh, the Irony: Trump May Have Sped Up Damage to His Real Estate Holdings By Pulling Out of the Paris Accord. Seriously. This is vomit inducing.
    I stopped using Weather.com a long time ago when they became anthropogenic global warming promoters. More politics than science in their forecasts.

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  34. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

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