355 responses to “Sandbox – 30mar17”

1. 

   Paul Emery

   06 April 2017

   Okay Don take e back then to justify your statement:
   “Keeping the Iraqi military units relatively intact, paying them and letting their officers handle the disarming and then using them for civic reconstruction is a proven model.”
   When where? Korea, WW2? WW1? Grenada? Cuba? Civil War? Spanish American War ? When where? Show me the “proven model” you tout.

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   Walt

   06 April 2017

   Don was right. Paul has no grasp of history. Even this ditch digger knows that answer.
   Yet Paul refuses to answer my question. And don’t play that “what question?” crap Paul.

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3. 

   Don Bessee

   06 April 2017

   Po’ ol’ PE’s lack of historical perspective is not my problem and he is way too in the rut of party parrot for me to even bother trying to educate that old dog. 😉

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   Paul Emery

   06 April 2017

   Don you write:
   “Keeping the Iraqi military units relatively intact, paying them and letting their officers handle the disarming and then using them for civic reconstruction is a proven model.”
   Apparently you agree that that model did not occur in modern times so when did it happen? Korean War? WW2? WW!? Spanish American war? Letss try Panama, Grenada? Civil War? Spanish American War ? When When When Don?

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   Bill Tozer

   06 April 2017

   This Sandbox has over 300 comments already and I reckon it is about to be cleaned. So, I will take this opportunity to try again to answer Dr. Rebane’s question before the sand is dumped.
   ” BTW, does anyone know the proper ways for one expressed gender to have a relationship with another expressed gender?”
   Posted by: George Rebane | 04 April 2017 at 05:50 PM
   https://www.facebook.com/UncleSamsMisguidedChildren.Net/photos/a.169953786533962.1073741830.169676909894983/660102717519064/?type=3&theater
   Aha! Why didn’t I think of that?
   https://www.facebook.com/RowdyConservatives/photos/a.217983685002343.55586.217926015008110/1059809424153094/?type=3&theater
   https://www.facebook.com/UncleSamsMisguidedChildren.Net/photos/a.169953786533962.1073741830.169676909894983/661133904082612/?type=3&theater
   The old fashioned way of doing it.
   https://www.facebook.com/IShouldBeAshamedButImNot/photos/a.362400367225484.1073741828.278792125586309/1068204139978433/?type=3&theater

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6. 

   Paul Emery

   06 April 2017

   What question Walt? Is there something of substance in the midst of your sputtering?

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   Walt

   06 April 2017

   Good point Don. I have had to “school” the old buzzard more times than I care to count.
   And not a dime in compensation. It’s time to boycott his question marks. That works both ways, since Paul refuses to answer anything. His union crickets are already on the job.

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   Paul Emery

   06 April 2017

   “union crickets” Walt-what the hell does that mean? You’re in your own world. Kinda worried about you but not that much.

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9. 

   Walt

   06 April 2017

   If you can’t comprehend Paul, that’s your problem. If you want to TROLL, that on you.

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10. 

    Bill Tozer

    06 April 2017

    Breaking news!!!!!!
    Bombs away! We struck Syria. No pussyfooting around. That did not take long.
    https://unclesamsmisguidedchildren.com/us-launches-missile-strike-syrian-targets/

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11. 

    Walt

    06 April 2017

    Bill. Good ol’ gunboat diplomacy works wonders. Trump probably called Putin and said “Duck!” Then called Assad and said, “how do you like me now? The U.S. is under new managment. change your slimy ways or ELSE.”

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12. 

    Bill Tozer

    06 April 2017

    Walt, never hurts to pull a Reagen and toss a bomb in Colonel Gaddafi’s bedroom window at 2:00 am at 600 mph….and flatten his top military official’s house while you are at it. This should make the Lefties, Neo-Cons, and the doves happy. No children were hurt and we punched ’em in the nose. Bet that airfield looks like a big slab of Swiss cheese. Military or political decision? Don’t really matter at this point. :).
    In other news, welcome Haley to being tarred as a Deplorable. Come on in, the water is warm. And to think she never once endorsed Trump to the bitter end. Ok, she refused to endorse Trump, but she voted for him. Close enough.
    https://www.yahoo.com/news/nikki-haley-booed-women-world-summit-015957382.html

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13. 

    Walt

    06 April 2017

    Yup, Gaddafi was thinking he could push Reagan around. Ron was having none of it. After that strike, Gaddafi was reported to be dressed in drag believing special forces were out to finish the job. That strike got the point across all over the Arab states. Things were nice and stable for a long time.
    I can’t wait to see the damage report and Sat. photos of Trump’s handywork. A new golf course with extra holes was made overnight. Now,, what to name it.

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14. 

    Bill Tozer

    06 April 2017

    And to think the Tomahawks were launched at the exact time Trump was playing gracious host and dining with the Chinese Premier. Hmmmmm. Wonder what Trump fed him for dessert………

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15. 

    ScenesFromTheApocalypse

    06 April 2017

    re: PE@7:09
    post-WWII Japan.

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16. 

    Don Bessee

    06 April 2017

    BT @ 807- Kim un fat flambé with a side of agressive unpredictability sauce. 😉

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17. 

    Walt

    06 April 2017

    Bill. Tomorrow will be interesting. How the Progs are going to howl. Tripping over each other to get to the microphones to bitch about the “sneak attack” without “their” approval.
    Nancy Pelosi is probably already in a rage and trying to get to CNN, to bitch how just pissed off the Ruskys.
    Any bets Hillary will come out of hiding? Now to see if Lil’ Kim got the message.

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18. 

    Walt

    06 April 2017

    Damn it Scenes,, you had to go and tell Paul the answer. Some things he has to learn on his own.(not that he actually cares.)

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19. 

    Walt

    06 April 2017

    All that fire makes me wonder which BBQ sauce goes best with camel.

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20. 

    Don Bessee

    06 April 2017

    Its ok Walt, Scenes is just showing pity for po’ ol’ ignorant PE. It was wider than just mainland Japan but I wont bother expanding on that since po’ ol’ PE wont comprehend or care. 😉

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21. 

    Bill Tozer

    06 April 2017

    Well, Trump just stole their thunder. Popcorn time.
    https://www.facebook.com/lastamericapatriots/photos/a.235087906641439.1073741826.235086849974878/826473040836253/?type=3&theater
    Walt @ 8:35 pm
    One hump or two?

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22. 

    Walt

    06 April 2017

    Yaaa,, Scenes hasn’t had a good taste of paul’s shuck and jive mixed with avoidance and rapid subject change. That will change soon enough.
    So watch out our usually silent friend. Paul will be giving you the “but look over there” treatment.

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23. 

    Walt

    06 April 2017

    Now that’s a good one Bill. Think Rice will commit seppuku to save “O”? (weather she intends to or not) Dems that “know things” tend to wind up dead.
    One hump white meat, two, red?

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24. 

    Bill Tozer

    07 April 2017

    Terror attack in Sweden…….
    http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-39531108

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25. 

    fish

    07 April 2017

    Posted by: Bill Tozer | 07 April 2017 at 07:03 AM
    Yeah…….good thing that all that glass was broken. This incident should do wonders for Swedens economy. I’m sure we’ll see “jon” drop by at any moment proclaiming the good news!

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26. 

    Walt

    07 April 2017

    So much for LIBs claim that Trump was cozy with the Ruskys. Not a word to Putin before things went BOOM!. You would think Putin would have put out a press release saying
    ” After helping you get elected,, this is how you say thanks?”

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27. 

    Paul Emery

    07 April 2017

    Where was the Congressional Authorization for the bombing in Syria? I thought the Constitution required that.

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28. 

    Walt

    07 April 2017

    “O” did it too Paul. Deal with it. And on Peace day no less. Again history is lost to you.

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29. 

    fish

    07 April 2017

    Posted by: Paul Emery | 07 April 2017 at 09:42 AM
    Pretty sure they’re trying to hang another one around the neck of the 2001 Authorization for Use of Military Force (AUMF) legislation.

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30. 

    Paul Emery

    07 April 2017

    Walt
    Obama asked for authorization to take action against Syria for use of chemical weapons but was turned down by the Republican congress.

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31. 

    fish

    07 April 2017

    Hats off to the Supreme Courts newest Justice!

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32. 

    Walt

    07 April 2017

    Wrong as usual Paul. Try again. Not doing your homework for you.

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33. 

    Paul Emery

    07 April 2017

    For Walt
    <WASHINGTON — President Obama abruptly changed course on Saturday and postponed a military strike against the Syrian government in retaliation for a chemical weapons attack so he could seek authorization first from a deeply skeptical Congress.
    In one of the riskiest gambles of his presidency, Mr. Obama effectively dared lawmakers to either stand by him or, as he put it, allow President Bashar al-Assad of Syria to get away with murdering children with unconventional weapons. By asking them to take a stand, Mr. Obama tried to break out of the isolation of the last week as he confronted taking action without the support of the United Nations, Congress, the public or Britain, a usually reliable partner in such international operations.
    “I’m prepared to give that order,” Mr. Obama said in a hurriedly organized appearance in the Rose Garden as American destroyers armed with Tomahawk missiles waited in the Mediterranean Sea. “But having made my decision as commander in chief based on what I am convinced is our national security interests, I’m also mindful that I’m the president of the world’s oldest constitutional democracy.”
    Authority was denied
    http://www.nytimes.com/2013/09/01/world/middleeast/syria.html

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34. 

    Walt

    07 April 2017

    Going to stand by that Paul? That your final answer? Now the big question. Ready to eat crow?
    You should know by now I don’t make things up like you. I don’t ask questions or make statements I already have the answers to.
    Better double check your bad info. I’m prepared to make you look foolish.(again)

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35. 

    Larry Wirth

    07 April 2017

    PE, Obama didn’t need congressional authorization to whack Assad for using WMD. He was looking for a reason not to do it. Interestingly, the appropriate Senate committee approved airstrikes on that occasion, but Dingy Harry didn’t even bring it up for a vote. Hmmm.
    Scenes let the cat out of the bag, but yes, Japan. Much better known was the same decision made in Europe. Marshall and the other giants that walked in those days used the de-Nazified German Army to maintain order in post-war Germany.
    And an excellent choice- a couple million trained, reliable and highly disciplined men who otherwise might have turned to political mischief to oppose the occupation.
    This would have been the correct solution in Iraq as well- those soldiers of Saddam needed to eat as much as the next guy and sending them home jobless could (and did) only lead to trouble.
    It would also saved us the trouble of creating a whole new army from scratch, which we are in the process of doing right now in Mosul.
    Looks to me as if ISIS is not long for this world… L

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36. 

    Paul Emery

    07 April 2017

    Go for it Walt. A casual look back will find Obama was asking for approval but when it was obvious he didn’t have Republican support he withdrew his request and did not bomb Syria.
    Heres more:
    “n 2013, President Barack Obama asked Congress for military authorization to intervene in Syria after a similar chemical attack. But Republicans in Congress said no.
    House Speaker Paul Ryan was among them. Under Obama, Ryan said any response from the United States over Syrian leader Bashar al-Assad’s use of chemical weapons would be a “feckless show of force,” adding, “Syria’s civil war isn’t our fight, but we have a stake in the outcome.”
    http://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2017/4/6/15215134/syrian-airstrikes-obama-trump-republicans

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37. 

    Todd Juvinall

    07 April 2017

    Paul Emery, Obama wanted something he already had. He was doing a political stunt. The R’s were too smart for him and he had to live uindert he old one. And as far as “national interest”. Keeping those Syrian refugees that Obama wanted to bring in is quite a good reason to stop the killer of those same people don’t you think?

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38. 

    Bill Tozer

    07 April 2017

    On this slow news day, we have a new Supreme Court Justice. That is the big one that will preserve The Union. Now I can finally relax. All other stuff is just noise on a rainy day….speaking solely for myself. Life is good again.

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39. 

    Walt

    07 April 2017

    Mr.Wirth,, feeling sorry for Paul?(well,, someone had to I guess) Paul must have failed history class, or read too many Lefy revised papers. If he had paid attention, Paul may have heard of the Marshall plan. It ended on 1952 if my memory is right.
    Paul will never learn to find the facts when everyone bails him out. Sometimes people need to learn the hard way. Embarrassment is a good teacher. Yet Paul is more like a hound dog messing with a skunk. No matter how many times he get’s sprayed,, he still goes back for more.
    Read it and let the crickets do the rest.
    http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2015/apr/27/congress-still-not-specifically-authorizing-islami/
    Obama launches 2,800 strikes on Iraq, Syria without congressional approval
    U.S. forces have now surpassed 2,800 strikes against targets in Iraq and Syria under President Obama’s war against the Islamic State, all as part of a conflict Congress has yet to specifically authorize — and amid worries lawmakers won’t ever act.
    Under intense pressure from Capitol Hill, Mr. Obama finally submitted a draft authorization for the use of military force against the Islamic State in February, but it’s since languished, caught in the stalemate between those who want tighter restrictions and those who want the president to have as free a hand as possible.
    Now analysts worry that inaction will set a dangerous precedent and leave Congress shorn of its warmaking powers.
    Yup. “O” did it first, so no bitching and whining that Trump has done the same.
    Maybe Clinton was the first. Remember his attack on an aspirin factory?

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40. 

    Paul Emery

    07 April 2017

    Larry
    There is general agreement that it was a colossal mistake when Bush disbanded the Iraq Army after our quick romp through Iraq. In a perfect world the Bessee Doctrine is an ideal solution but it has not been applied for at leas 70 years.
    Here’s a quick look at the consequences of Bush’s disbanding the Iraq Army after their quick defeat.
    “The decision to dissolve the Iraqi army robbed Baghdad’s post-invasion military of some of its best commanders and troops. Combined with sectarian strains that persist 12 years later, it also drove many of the suddenly out-of-work Sunni warriors into alliances with a Sunni insurgency that would eventually mutate into IThe decision to dissolve the Iraqi army robbed Baghdad’s post-invasion military of some of its best commanders and troops. Combined with sectarian strains that persist 12 years later, it also drove many of the suddenly out-of-work Sunni warriors into alliances with a Sunni insurgency that would eventually mutate into ISIS. Many former Iraqi military officers and troops, trained under Saddam, have spent the last 12 years in Anbar Province battling both U.S. troops and Baghdad’s Shi’ite-dominated security forces, Pentagon officials say.SIS. Many former Iraqi military officers and troops, trained under Saddam, have sp ent the last 12 years in Anbar Province battling both U.S. troops and Baghdad’s Shi’ite-dominated security forces, Pentagon officials say.
    http://time.com/3900753/isis-iraq-syria-army-united-states-military/

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    Paul Emery

    07 April 2017

    Once again Walt from your guy Ryan
    ” Ryan said any response from the United States over Syrian leader Bashar al-Assad’s use of chemical weapons would be a “feckless show of force,” adding, “Syria’s civil war isn’t our fight, but we have a stake in the outcome.”

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42. 

    Walt

    07 April 2017

    Right on time. Change the subject….Paul,,,.
    Your turning into the “jon”. Wrong, on SO many levels.
    Since you really don’t care about the truth of WMDS in Iraq, I take it you won’t go to any VA hospital and as those who were there. Just tow the anti war rhetoric line.

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43. 

    Paul Emery

    07 April 2017

    Walt
    Are you saying Saddam used WMD’s against American troops in the war?

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44. 

    ScenesFromTheApocalypse

    07 April 2017

    PE: “There is general agreement that it was a colossal mistake when Bush disbanded the Iraq Army after our quick romp through Iraq.”
    So you are saying that the Bush administration should have put a minority group back in charge of the majority of Iraqis? Do you feel the same way about South Africa?

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45. 

    Walt

    07 April 2017

    Playing that game again? For the love of GOD see a Dr. about your memory problem.
    I,,,will,,, type,,, REAL,,,, slowwwww,, so,,, you,, can unnderrrrstannndd…….
    Stated boiler plate ” NO,, WMDS,, in,,,Iraq”… Tell that to those VETS that have been EXPOSED to CHEMICAL AGENTS,, and SUFFER from RADIATION poisoning.(those that are still alive)
    YOU say there were none. THEY say OTHERWISE.
    Clear enough fake news man?

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46. 

    Bill Tozer

    07 April 2017

    https://www.facebook.com/RowdyConservatives/

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47. 

    Bonnie McGuire

    07 April 2017

    Regarding the latest episode concerning weapons of mass destruction (WMDs), chemicals, gases, bombs…whatever. https://www.chemheritage.org/distillations/magazine/a-brief-history-of-chemical-war
    They’ve been used all over the world forever…despite what the keepers in charge of the world’s dirty swamp claim. Just ask the soldiers (and civilians) who survived being sprayed Agent Orange defoliant.
    http://www.history.com/topics/vietnam-war/agent-orange
    And the soldiers who suffered bad side affects from a questionable anthrax vaccine. http://vaccine-injury.info/military-shots.cfm The enemy was accused of being the cause, but it turned out that those affected hadn’t left America. There were doctors against the vaccine.
    Mr. Cross wonders what I think about media claims of sexual assault by someone? Having lived in our world wide swamp many years is an education regarding many individuals tendency to lie, cheat whatever to get something. There are plenty of cases where women lie. I’m thinking about the woman who accused some of the Duke University lacrosse team members of gang raping her. Her lie, aided by the corrupt District Attorney, and Rev’s Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton. This was a perfect example being guilty until you’re able to prove your innocence. Imagine the destruction of reputation, and expense they and their their families were put through. http://thefederalist.com/2016/03/16/fantastic-lies-10-appalling-moments-from-the-duke-lacrosse-case/
    Is it possible that the case against O’Reilly is a politically “get even story” manufactured by the dwellers in the swamp?
    http://www.foxnews.com/story/2006/04/19/al-sharpton-on-duke-rape-arrests.html
    Anyway, if you’re really interested in the rest of the stories there’s plenty to learn if you make the effort…

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48. 

    Walt

    07 April 2017

    http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/04/07/susan-rice-obama-colleagues-take-heat-for-past-claims-on-syria-chemical-weapons-purge.html
    “Susan Rice and other former Obama administration officials are taking heat for past claims that their 2013 Syria agreement successfully led to the Assad regime purging its entire chemical weapons stockpile”
    “National Security Adviser Rice touted the “success” in Syria, in striking a deal with Russia’s help that resulted in the prior administration dropping the threat of military action.”
    “In July 2014, then-Secretary of State John Kerry went on NBC’s “Meet the Press” to discuss the September 2013 deal that resulted in Russia agreeing to help confiscate and then destroy Syria’s stockpile.
    “We struck a deal where we got 100 percent of the chemical weapons out,” Kerry claimed.”
    “On Jan. 6, 2015, then-White House Press Secretary John Earnest praised Russia for its role in destroying the chemical weapons stockpile of the Assad regime.”
    But we were to believe what “O” and Co. said.

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49. 

    Gregory

    07 April 2017

    And now for something completely different…
    The Grass Valley School district is looking for a “Discovery Studies Teacher” for the ’17/’18 school year. Certificated, experienced with the “Expeditionary Learning” used at the Grass Valley Charter School.
    $7.91 an hour, no benefits for someone with a bachelors degree and teaching certifications.
    http://www.gvsd.us/documents/Human%20Resources/Job%20Openings/Certificated/16-75%20DS%20Teacher.pdf
    Is that a stampede I hear? It bears repeating that the Grass Valley Charter was near the bottom of their 100 Similar Schools list before the STAR testing and API reporting was abandoned by the State despite having one of the highest parental education levels of any county public school. Like the Yuba River Charter (that actually was at the bottom of their Similar Schools list once the school that was even worse, another Waldorf Charter, closed), they learned that to survive spending public monies teaching virtually nothing, you’d better cherry pick the kids allowed to walk in the door.

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50. 

    Paul Emery

    07 April 2017

    Scenes
    That was Bessee’s idea as to what we should have done. Whatever Bush did it was a mess and didn’t work. Oh yeah, he was nation building and trying to bring Democracy to Iraq.

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