[Does anyone remember the last time that the Congressional Budget Office, or for that matter the WH’s Office of Management and Budget, got any projection, estimate, or prediction right? And by ‘right’ I mean literally ‘close enough for government work’. Now people are hyperventilating that Trumpcare may go forward without anyone knowing its vaunted ‘CBO score’. As a comparison consider how Obamacare went forward also without its CBO score. And when it finally came, the information turned out somewhere between fraudulent to totally useless. The CBO then whined that the ACA was way too complex and too poorly laid out to do a proper scoring job. My own politically unrealistic druther would be to just stand back and let Ocare crash and burn under the full and continuous glare of cameras and klieglights. The current Repub replacement will generate more heat than light, besides becoming the much welcomed new narrative of the Left – ‘Obamacare would have worked given time (the notorious Gruber on NPR this morning), but now they destroyed it and replaced it with Trumpcare that has all these (insert litany here) problems. We need to go back and set up a single payer system like all those EU countries have.’ And how do you refute any of this? For the inquiring mind: healthcare will become ‘affordable’ only when the regulatory barriers for delivering it and its medications are drastically lowered, while concurrently addressing the entitlements gorilla. Overarching solution – make the economy roar, else NOTHING will work. gjr]

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76 responses to “Sandbox – 8mar17”
Nothing to see here, just new Trump family operations in China to include escort services and massage parlors,
http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/china-approves-38-new-trump-trademarks-his-businesses-n730561
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Not totally unexpected, since prostitution runs in the Trump family, along with avoiding military service, etc. –
http://www.snopes.com/trumps-grandfather-bavaria-deport/
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Bootleggers (Kennedy) to Pimps (Trump) – make America great again!
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“We need to go back and set up a single payer system like all those EU countries have.”
I’m always surprised by how little people (at least the highly-opinionated variety) actually know about the nuts and bolts of healthcare in other countries. They treat the rest of the First World as some of bullet-item arguing point instead of as individual places with individual systems, all of which have evolved for (probably) close to 100 years.
BradC, instead of sharing your political Tourette’s, howza bout explaining how health plans should be designed?
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Since this is a sandbox, I’ll go ahead and post what will become one of the iconic images of the times (in case you hadn’t seen it).
https://i.redd.it/ob60qjr3n6ky.jpg
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Let a terrorist go and get away, before arrest.. Can’t have the news get out the Trump was RIGHT. Especially just before the election.
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2017/03/08/lawmakers-probe-claim-doj-aided-iraqi-terror-suspect-days-before-november-election.html
Yup, loyal “O” officers do this, the same kind that would leak info.
Its time to find and charge under the hatch act.
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https://www.facebook.com/RowdyConservatives/photos/a.217983685002343.55586.217926015008110/1040155029451867/?type=3&theater
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Where is Bill? Your opinion and specialized dissection of this is required.
http://dailycaller.com/2017/03/08/campus-environmental-group-insists-white-people-step-back/
All I can say is “W..T..F..??????
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Walt 551pm – This kind of statements coming from leftwing factions are nothing new. In the US the Democrats have always been the most virulous racists the country has ever seen beginning with the foundation of the Democrat party in the early 19th century. It is they who backed slavery, terrorized post-bellum blacks, established and enshrined Jim Crow, founded and supported American eugenics, and finally sacrificed the emerging black middle class to create a cohort of permanently disadvantaged,ignorant, yet reliable voting block which they have enjoyed for the last 50 years.
In the 20th century they picked up on the political manipulations of Lenin, and were the fifth column backers of communism in the US. Now they are versed in loudly accusing everyone else of what in fact they practice – violence, hatred, discrimination, and an unabashed promotion of leviathan as an overarching totalitarian state. We have to remember that for them the individual is nothing but an expendable cipher that can be manipulated, deployed, and dispensed with for this or that political purpose. The collective is all, everyone else is assigned to classes that must be vilified and then destroyed. It is simply their nature.
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I wouldn’t deny that all those horrible things were done by those despicable Democrats, but how come they all switched parties after the dirty liberals demanded an end to segregation?
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Prove it.
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re: RLC @ 8:00PM
You mean Democrats like Byrd?
http://static.snopes.com/app/uploads/2016/03/clinton-byrd.png
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RL 800pm – they have done anything but switched parties. Stay tuned for a sample from the local Nevada County Democrats.
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Virtue signaling…..better than sex…..or something.
https://heatst.com/culture-wars/idiocies-male-feminists-spout-on-international-womens-day/
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” The current Repub replacement will generate more heat than light,”
I doubt that it will pass with anything like the current wording. For one thing, a key Trump constituency, working class older (but sub-65) people will get absolutely hammered with new health insurance premiums.
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This undoubtably connects the Clinton campaign to the Russians…..
Confirmed YES OR NO?!?!?!?!?!?!?!? YES OR NO?!?!?!?! POLL NUMBERS…….bad. MARKET ….up! ELECTION……..hacked.
……true story bro!
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-03-09/russias-largest-bank-confirms-hiring-podesta-group-lobby-ending-sanctions
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That did it fish, now there is absolutely nothing for that poor ol’ pollhead parrot PE to post. Well there is always Bush. 😉
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Posted by: Don Bessee | 09 March 2017 at 11:28 AM
I swear….since the election he’s been half senile old man, 1/2 petulant foot stamping teenaged girl.
….sad.
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“There are people in this world who do not love their fellow man, and I HATE PEOPLE LIKE THAT!” – professor Tom Lehrer in the ’60’s.
“I hate people who don’t recycle!” -overheard at the dump
“And I’m entitled to get drunk and puke in your lap! I’m going to throw up right in your lap! You make me sick! Don’t talk to me! Don’t look at me! Don’t you dare even put your arm on that rest. You disgust me! You should be ashamed of yourself! You put a maniac’s finger on the button” (assuming she’s means nukes). You are a bigot. You should get off this plane!”
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2017/01/22/woman_berates_trump_supporter_gets_kicked_off_plane_hes_in_my_space.html
I’ve had essentially the same experience in downtown Nevada City, before the election and the same folk has been avoiding my presence ever since, one in particular telling anyone who will listen how stupid I am… not because I’m GOP, but because I don’t accept the Gospels according to St. McKibben (who, it should be known, like Al Gore, never took a real physical science class in all his years in the Ivy League) who pulled the famous 350ppm CO2 target out of his hat.
Another experience was in listening to a couple of political bigots in a local family establishment, making blanket declarations right out of the Chris Mooney claims that GOP beliefs against what he thinks are scientific truths are the result of genetic inferiority.
http://rogerpielkejr.blogspot.com/2011/11/new-eugenics-from-looney-left.html
I called them out as bigots, nicely, no shouting from either side; there also was no wiggle room for them, as they were clearly claiming Republicans were all STUPID. One of the proprietors came over and told me the couple were two of their oldest friends in town and I just as calmly repeated, that meant two of your oldest friends in town were bigots. Further challenged, and asked why I’d care because I wasn’t a Republican, I mentioned I knew a number of registered GOP among my extended family who were reasoned and educated, and asked them if they’d object the labeling of their old friends if they’d said that about blacks? Should someone who is a mutant barbarian like me (anyone who has blue eyes and doesn’t speak Greek can be fairly labeled as such) not challenge false statements about any group? Now, unlike the woman in that airliner, my experiences in observing our local tolerant Progressives took place BEFORE the election, counting their chickens before they hatched, believing their own Greek chorus that the Clintons would win.
Considering the violence of the words and deeds of their Blackshirts, I can only imagine how abysmal they might have been had they won.
I was originally hoping the GOP would prevail in November because of the need to get more Scalias on the bench from top to bottom, and then, after Scalia died in his sleep, even more anxious about the next two or three SCOTUS appointments. The most personal peace I’ve had in years was when our local “progressives” were shell shocked enough to keep quiet on Nov 8. The worst offenders are still avoiding eye contact; I guess the shattering of their New Progressive America dreams, beginning with the vanquishing of their foes last November, was just too much.
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Speaking of young Republicans – https://youtu.be/_gZro-uEJ48
If the Dems keep nominating the likes of Crooked Hillary for president, this young lady will definitely sweep the field.
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Not quite sure where to put this post.
https://www.facebook.com/UncleSamsMisguidedChildren.Net/photos/a.169953786533962.1073741830.169676909894983/645729942289675/?type=3&theater
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Oh my. From today’s Police Blotter:
“6:19 p.m. — A caller from the 400 block of Mill Street reported a female on her property saying there are druids on the caller’s property in the creek.”
Well, now it is starting to make sense……but saying there are no absolutes is in and of itself an absolute statement, is it not? Heck, what do I know anyhow.
“One of the most striking characteristics of Druidism is the degree to which it is free of dogma and any fixed set of beliefs or practices.
There is no ‘sacred text’ or the equivalent of a bible in Druidism and there is no universally agreed set of beliefs amongst Druids.”
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My response to the ridiculous colimn by a fellow named Alexander of Nevada City in the Union today.
“The problem with you leftwing hypocrites is so obvious yet for some reason you refuse to see it. You say we should all come together and meet in the middle and how you have such a desire for getting along then you slam and demean. My goodness, all I can say is that has to be a mental illness. We on the right have listened to your incessant yapping and whining and we are truly sick of it. You had your way and we had to take the highway all these years. We have won the race for now and are about to implement our agendas. That is the consequence of a election. We have more votes in the Congress. You have wiped us out in California with your gerrymandering and I do not see you telling your pals in Sacramento to gt your butts to the middle. Why is that? So keep whining as it seems to be a personality defect of the liberal. We won, get over it. Oh and you trash our candidate yet in my view yours was even worse and the people saw it and rejected her and your ilk elsewhere across the country.”
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California’s taxes are nearly a third higher than the next-highest state (Maine) and yet our infrastructure is falling apart. Aside, of course, from Jerry Brown’s never-to-be-completed high-speed train to nowhere where does the money go? It goes down this rabbit hole:A ll California State Agencies:
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Our government says that the only places they can cut expenses is Police and Fire….
YEAH RIGHT!!!
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Some more fake news news.
http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/obamascare-60-of-online-obamacare-defenders-paid-to-post-hits-on-critics/article/2615774
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Politico on the Trump Transition
PROMISES, PROMISES: A few weeks before the election, Trump laid out an ambitious plan for his first 100 days in office. Trump is halfway through that period today, and he’s still scratching at the surface of key initiatives, such as stopping illegal immigration, while the one big reform currently before Congress — repealing and replacing Obamacare — had a rocky rollout this week and started its legislative journey.
Other recent presidents have started their terms by rolling out big policy proposals that send a message about where they want Washington to go. President George W. Bush focused his first weeks in office sending proposals to Capitol Hill, starting with No Child Left Behind education reform. President Barack Obama had an immediate call-to-action to cope with the financial crisis, and he signed the Lilly Ledbetter Fair Pay Act just days after his inauguration. Trump’s actions have mostly consisted of executive orders. “He’s giving snacks, rather than the main course, of the policies that he’s interested in delivering on,” said historian Martha Kumar, director of the White House Transition Project.
No mention of the Schumer Slowdown in the Senate delaying the confirmation of Cabinet Members who would be leading the initiatives. No mention of the Deep State obstruction. No mention of riots in the streets. No mention of the leaks that are disrupting the flow of work, to recover, forcing a redo. No mention of the lefty Judges throwing legal monkey wrenches into the political machinery.
Given the obstacles I would say that Trump is making better progress than the Progressive had expected. Go Trump!
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Russ 1207pm – Good pick up Russ. According to Rebane Doctrine, Politico can be ascribed as a leading lamestream liar by releasing such reports with misleading innuendos. More here –
http://rebaneruminations.typepad.com/rebanes_ruminations/2011/10/lies-and-lying.html
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Politico was started by disgruntled lefty “journalist” who though CNN was too conservative.
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Well, that took a while.
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/wireStory/attorney-general-jeff-sessions-seeks-resignation-46-united-46052710
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fake news news:
Look how this is worded:
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/03/10/us/politics/us-attorney-justice-department-trump.html
“Trump Abruptly Orders 46 Obama-Era Prosecutors to Resign”
“Abruptly”
“The firings were a surprise”
lol. Of course, Clinton fired 93. http://www.nytimes.com/1993/03/24/us/attorney-general-seeks-resignations-from-prosecutors.html
What in the hell is with these newspaper people?
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The world is a much more entertaining place with Maxine Waters in it…..
Golden Showers an impeachable offense…..I thought that was pretty much the definition of political fundraising these days?
http://www.sfgate.com/entertainment/the-wrap/article/Maxine-Waters-Thinks-President-Trump-Should-Be-10990060.php
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ScenesFromTheApocalypse | 10 March 2017 at 03:37 PM
What in the hell is with these newspaper people?
To borrow the “Instapundit” description…..just think of them as democratic operatives with bylines.
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Didn’t Bush take blast furnace heat for firing Lefty attorneys? I recall something along those lines. Glad to see these has been no repeat of that.(yet)
Fish. That loon Maxine, went off the rails a long time ago. Now how to get the woman committed to a nuthouse ward should be top priority. Now doesn’t Ca. have a law on the books to remove firearms from those who show signs of mental instability? The proper authorities need to be notified, and to pay her a visit. (if she has any or not)
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Have you used the Best Buy Geek Squad?
Recently unsealed records reveal a much more extensive secret relationship than previously known between the FBI and Best Buy’s Geek Squad, including evidence the agency trained company technicians on law-enforcement operational tactics, shared lists of targeted citizens and, to covertly increase surveillance of the public, encouraged searches of computers even when unrelated to a customer’s request for repairs.
I wonder if they installed Trojan Horse backdoors for the FBI?
In the United States today, nothing is what it appears to be.
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That’s funny, I didn’t know they were Russian.
http://truepundit.com/suspect-in-house-it-security-probe-also-had-access-to-dnc-emails/
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Scenes:
Yep, that story keeps making the rounds. The Alt-Left should be careful what they wish for. The Russian connection is pointing more and more to the DNC, Obama, Hillary and the HRC campaign apparatus with each passing day. It stinks to high heaven. Who knows what a real investigation will lead to….maybe we will finally find the 30,000 missing e-mails from Hillary when she was at State and get to read them.
More is revealed with each passing day.
https://www.facebook.com/lastamericapatriots/photos/a.235087906641439.1073741826.235086849974878/808177992665758/?type=3&theater
https://www.facebook.com/Thoughtcrimeresistance/photos/a.711021539020456.1073741828.710889645700312/1168868183235787/?type=3&theater
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Kicking a dead horse. No proof!
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10213133447519557&set=a.1339662020363.2050672.1495536389&type=3&theater
For Russ Steele’s pleasure. Boy, are we going to pay.
http://www.capoliticalreview.com/capoliticalnewsandviews/sb-1-gas-tax-increasenew-100-vehicle-registration-fee-and-more-taxes/
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a quote I rather liked from a Theodore Dalrymple article (when speaking about a particularly stupid bit of political correctness):
“Though this be madness, yet there is method in it: For the greater political correctness’ violation of common sense, the better—at least if its goal is power over men’s minds and conduct. In this sense it is like Communist propaganda of old: The greater the disparity between the claims of that propaganda and the everyday experience of those at whom it was directed, the greater the humiliation suffered by the latter, especially when they were obliged to repeat it, thus destroying their ability to resist, even in the secret corners of their heart. That is why the politically correct insist that everyone uses their language: Unlike what the press is supposed to do, the politically correct speak power to truth.”
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re: BT@8:17 AM
” Who knows what a real investigation will lead to.”
The low hanging fruit here would be a thorough investigation of the various Clinton ‘non-profits’ from both a tax and criminal standpoint. They were far too big and far too legit to quickly burn the records in a barrel out back.
That will never ever ever happen, but it’s a nice idea.
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Lena Durham says Trump is making her lose weight. Barbara Streisand says Trump is making her fat. Goodness gracious, is there anything that man cannot do!
http://metro.co.uk/2017/03/06/barbra-streisand-says-donald-trump-is-making-her-fat-when-she-watches-him-on-the-news-6491976/
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Trump loses eight in Rasmussen poll
The slide of our Liar in Chief continues with him losing eight points in Rasmussen in the last three weeks.
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/latest_polls/
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Still President.
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Posted by: Paul Emery | 11 March 2017 at 10:24 AM
….still president Paul.
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Posted by: Bill Tozer | 11 March 2017 at 10:01 AM
Lena Durham says Trump is making her lose weight.
Well Lena can use it.
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re: PE @ 10:24AM
Who knows, you may get your wish more quickly than you think.
https://i.imgur.com/bZnAIJR.jpg
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Scenes @ 12:02 pm
Does that mean that once they start packing on a few pounds, they cover themselves head to toe? Always a silver lining.
https://www.facebook.com/RowdyConservatives/photos/a.217983685002343.55586.217926015008110/1042354062565297/?type=3&theater
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Administrivia – I just discovered four unpublished comments languishing in the Spam folder and published them. Please let me know immediately if you see that your recent comment does not appear in the comment stream. Thanks.
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Things appear to be getting a bit more frisky in Europe.
http://www.haaretz.com/world-news/europe/1.776576
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To the Washington Post’s credit, not a bad run-down of The Netherlands v. Turkey. An article that’s chock full of irony.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/europe/the-latest-turkish-fm-calls-eu-official-amid-dutch-dispute/2017/03/11/7d04099a-06b9-11e7-9d14-9724d48f5666_story.html
One of my favorite lines:
The prime minister added: “Hey Europe, please don’t meddle in Turkey’s internal affairs and politics and don’t take a side.”
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