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[It appears that on the Left bank the Bush Derangement Syndrome is on the wane. In 'The Left Learns to Love Dubya' WSJ columnist Kim Strassel integrates this little change of mood into the overall national Trash Trump program.  Perhaps the locals have yet to get their new marching orders.  Speaking of locals, has anyone else noticed that several of our rightwing commenters seem to be losing their edge in their sandbox tete-a-tetes when their arguments regress to name-calling.  We're all getting older, and I guess time takes its toll. gjr]

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117 responses to “Sandbox – 3mar17”

  1. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    Yeah George. Bush seems like kinda nice person compared to what we have now. He is still the worst President in modern history but likely to be surpassed by the ilk we have now.
    Yelp for daters-Good one Fish
    George, Trump is pushing vouchers as we speak. In your view is that an appropriate use of Federal power and funds? I recall y you being in support of cancelling funding the Department of Education and even shutting down the agency completely.

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  2. Don Bessee Avatar
    Don Bessee

    WOW, so early in the day and the poor ol’ fakenewsman is in high froth. It must be the way the Russian thing boomeranged back on the dems or it could be the news that a fakenewsman, communist, anti-Trump black guy did a bunch of the anti-Semitic bomb threats.
    If our poor lil’ fakenewsman really believed what he has been shoveling he would have taken Dr. R’s bet. πŸ˜‰

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  3. George Rebane Avatar

    PaulE 1047am – Yeah, silly me, I’m still in favor of school choice and states doing the nation’s schooling. And I’m in favor of shutting down the DoEduc given that they have cost trillions, and for decades have done NOTHING for education save insure that our schools are union guaranteed sinecures for poorly prepared teachers qualified mostly for the ideological indoctrination of our youth. Now I understand that you and other progressives are longtime subscribers to Einstein’s definition of insanity.
    In sum, if the feds must stay in the education game, then they should implement a policy that gives parents the most choice in how their children are educated.
    Now do you understand why the country needs federalism? I don’t have a hope of changing any minds, but do hope that you would understand why we don’t want to live in the same jurisdiction with crazy people who continue doing dumb things using other people’s money.

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  4. Scott Obermuller Avatar

    From what I’ve read, Trump’s voucher plan is only for children in poverty. The money for the voucher plan would come from the current fed program that gives the states extra money to help educate kids below the poverty line. I personally would like to see the Dept of Ed done away with, but if they did the left would cause bloodshed. At least what Trump is proposing causes the same money to follow each child and the parents would have a choice of schools to send their child to. Not perfect, but an improvement. Further, it will tend to remove a tax payer funding source from the left. The current system isn’t working and simply throwing money at it won’t help.

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  5. Walt Avatar

    Paul is showing his age. Getting long in the tooth. Memory just ain’t what it should be.
    Bush? “worst President in modern history ” Uh,,, NO DICE Oh aged one. Carter and “O” still reign supreme. The real argument is who is worst offender. Some will say ” Carter meant well, but was naive.”. “O” on the other hand had destruction on his mind from day one, and is still working on that today. So the definition of “worst” is still up for grabs.
    My bitch about Carter is his giving away of the Panama canal, and pussed out on the hostage crisis. Just nutless.(unless peanuts for testicals count)
    As for “O”,,, well,, this isn’t over yet. He and his minions are still trying to start a new civil war.

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  6. Don Bessee Avatar
    Don Bessee

    The illegal immigrant deportation dust up de jour has video of a SOCAL arrest of a guy after he dropped his kid off at school. Heavy emphasis on the kids and no mention that dear old dad had a DUI and was busted for stolen license tags on his car. Poor ol’ PE that’s your cue to start your pearl clutching and hyperventilating. πŸ˜‰

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  7. Don Bessee Avatar
    Don Bessee

    Since poor ol’ PE is already in high froth we should pull this bandaid fast. Details of the State Department sponsored event where Senator Session spoke to an audience that included a bunch of ambassadors are out. Sessions used his campaign funds to pay for his trip so legally he was there as a Senator, no Trump funds were involved.
    The good thing about a buzz kill early in the day poor ol’ PE is that you have all day to get it back, right? πŸ˜‰

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  8. fish Avatar
    fish

    Media Which Has Been Decrying Rise of Antisemitic Vandalism and Bomb Threats, Assuming, For No Good Reason, a Trump Supporter Was Behind It, Suddenly Gets Pretty Quiet About It.

    Mmmmm……another case of Brad Croul Syndrome……tragic.
    #whitegirl
    http://ace.mu.nu/archives/368691.php

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  9. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    All my opinion Walt. Bush is the worst President in modern history. Run this simple test: This country before Bush, this country after Bush. Run that for all Presidents since Wilson and there is no dispute from reasonable thinkers who gets the trophy. Trump has potential for setting new records though. He’s off top a roaring start.

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  10. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    Don @ 12:14 pm.
    You are wasting your time. It don’t matter to a closed mind. A favorite quote that nails it:
    . “There is a principle which is a bar against all information, which is proof against all arguments, and which cannot fail to keep a man in everlasting ignoranceβ€”that principle is contempt prior to investigation.”
    Here, watch me waste my time. Trying to argue that Senators and Congresspersons talking with the Red Scare diplomats is normal and a standard occurrence for legislators and their committee members. Heck, Sessions met with the Ukraine Ambassador face to face in private the day before “he lied!!”. What did the Ukrainians want? What secret deals were hatched? Did they mention sanctions on Russia???
    Now CNN has broadcasted an edited question version of Al Frankenfrog quizzing of Sessions, the morning after Yellow Shower hit the late news. Yep, edited it just like the 911 call CBS edited to show Treyon Martin’s killer was racist!! The motive uncovered before the evidence should turn room temperature and be looked at, lol.
    Suddenly being an Ambassador is equilivent to being a spy…yawn. Talking to an Ambassador is now collusion, treason, and a hostile takeover of the government. Yawn.
    http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2017/03/flashback-30-senate-democrats-met-russian-diplomats-advance-obamas-iran-deal/
    See, I just wasted my time. Pointing out duplicity is a waste of time. Pointing out mega hypocrisy and facts are wasting my breathe. Pointing out the real threats to our Nation, our Constitution, our way of life, is a total waste of time.
    “The ultimate result of shielding men from the effects of folly, is to fill the world with fools.”
    Herbert Spencer

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  11. ScenesFromTheApocalypse Avatar
    ScenesFromTheApocalypse

    re: DB @ 12:14PM
    Although I hate to link to Drudge, as everyone has probably seen it, this isn’t a bad article:
    https://medium.com/theyoungturks/the-basic-formula-for-every-shocking-russia-trump-revelation-e9ae390d9f05#.mxdhhxguh
    I truly wish that the Green Libertarians would get unstuck from this Russia business as it’s not only ridiculous, but it has the potential for causing unneeded danger in international politics.
    You’d think that there would be plenty argue about with any upcoming changes in the ACA, the huge amounts of money to be spent by the new administration on the military/infrastructure/etc., alterations in tax code, and the like.
    Instead we are treated with the ongoing furor about LGBTQLMNOP bathrooms, pussy hats, some isolated ICE cases, and the Putin fetish. The political discharge from the Left is starting to sound like an R.A. Lafferty novel.

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  12. Don Bessee Avatar
    Don Bessee

    Here’s one just for you Walt, Secretary Zinke the former navy seal who was just confirmed for interior reversed 0’s last minute ban on regular ammunition on federal lands.
    Not bad for his first day on the job. πŸ˜‰

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  13. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    The biggest threat to the US is the Democrat Party. Way more than Russia. Any nuke would happen in Ukraine or the Middle East, far, far, far away.
    But, what the Dems are trying to do to our Constitutional Republic is the real threat. Lenin’s playbook.

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  14. Russ Avatar
    Russ

    How millions of kids are being shaped by know-it-all voice assistants
    Well that is headline which raises an interesting question. “Alexa tell us about anthropogenic global warming” Love to tell you her answer, but our Alexa is in the Amazon shop getting her AI brain adjusted, she could turn things on but refused to turn them off. We had to pull the power plug to turn her off.
    Back to the question. Oh My, AI driven devices give out factual intelligence, not emotional intelligence.
    β€œThese devices don’t have emotional intelligence,” said Allison Druin, a University of Maryland professor who studies how children use technology. β€œThey have factual intelligence.”
    Think of all the children who will learn that climate change and global warming are not emotional intelligence, but factual intelligence. Or, heaven forbid, we learn that anthropogenic global warming is factual intelligence and that anthropogenic skepticism is emotional intelligence.
    I am looking forward to Alexa’s return on Saturday so we can have a conversation about climate change. What does her AI brain think about anthropogenic climate change? Stay Tuned.

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  15. Don Bessee Avatar
    Don Bessee

    Just heard another detail on poor ol’ PE’s illegal alien heroine, when imegre showed up to take away the dad and brother they found a gun in the house. Possession of a firearm by an illegal is its own special felony. Poor ol’ PE’s heroine told ICE she had it for home defense and claimed she was one of 0’s dreamers. When they went back and checked and found out she was not they issued a warrant that was acted on.
    So now that we find out she had a gun charge do you still hold her up as a shining light of the illegal community Mr anti 2nd amendment? That’s you poor ol’ PE. πŸ˜‰

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  16. fish Avatar
    fish

    Posted by: Paul Emery | 03 March 2017 at 12:42 PM
    No question Bush is going to win any awards for presidential greatness……cough….cough…… Medicare Part D…..cough….cough…… unecessary war.
    I see again however that President “Hope n Change” merits no specific mention.
    Interesting.

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  17. Walt Avatar

    I missed the news on that ban. Good riddance nonetheless.

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  18. Don Bessee Avatar
    Don Bessee

    Walt @ 103, it was one of the thousands of screw you’s from 0 after madam liar liar pantsuits on fire lost. That one literally happened on his last day. πŸ˜‰

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  19. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    Bill writes:
    “The biggest threat to the US is the Democrat Party. Way more than Russia.”
    You crack me up Bill. Your 12:54 is hilarious. You write a lot of funny things but I doubt you can top this. Thanks for the laughs. This one sill follow you around.

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  20. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    I thought you believed in the right to bear arms Don. Oh yeah. How about a link for your 12:57.

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  21. Don Bessee Avatar
    Don Bessee

    The 2nd amendment is for US citizens poor ol’ PE, not illegal aliens who are criminals. So are you saying a gun crime is ok because its a politically correct illegal alien issue? πŸ˜‰

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  22. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    I was just checking out your principles Don. To you it’s not a human right just and American one and doesn’t apply to someone who has been a resident of this country since the age of 7.

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  23. fish Avatar
    fish

    The tolerant and respectful left…..at it again!

    Middlebury College professor injured by protesters as she escorted controversial speaker

    Hey Paul did the Trump administration pay these guys to execute the triple behind the back bank shot protest like in Berkeley?
    http://www.addisonindependent.com/201703middlebury-college-professor-injured-protesters-she-escorted-controversial-speaker

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  24. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    Don’t know Fish. I’ll check it out when I have time.

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  25. fish Avatar
    fish

    Posted by: Paul Emery | 03 March 2017 at 01:58 PM
    Was wondering if anything had come of the first accusation? That the Berkeley “protestors” were Trump funded….I think that was what you implied here shortly after the event?

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  26. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    That’s still spinning around out there Fish. I’ll give you an update if I hear of one.
    No info on Trumps involvement in your 1:46 post.

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  27. Todd Juvinall Avatar
    Todd Juvinall

    I heard Hillary and Obama have teamed up to sell weapons to Surinam and its insurgents. Anyone else?

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  28. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    Do you have any documentation Todd? Links?

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  29. Todd Juvinall Avatar
    Todd Juvinall

    And Chick Schumer is a stock holder in a sex toy company. You cannot make this stuff up.

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  30. Don Bessee Avatar
    Don Bessee

    NO poor ol’ PE, just because an illegal avoided deportation under 0 means nothing as far as being a citizen with full rights under the constitution you silly ol’ pollhead.
    Let me amend that, an illegal who committed a gun felony. More situational ethics from that good ol’ democrat PE. πŸ™‚

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  31. Don Bessee Avatar
    Don Bessee

    STOP THE PRESES! Nancy ‘the botox queen’ Pelosi is caught lying about Russian contacts! Today she said she NEVER met with the current Russian ambassador. OOOOOOPSIE! A photo emerged with her sitting across the table from the Russian ambassador.
    What did she conspire about in that meeting? What was the personal gain for her husbands company? How long until she resigns?
    Recall! Resign! Draw and quartering! πŸ˜‰

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  32. Walt Avatar

    Don..You missed the “proof” that Paul will demand,, but not read. Here ya’ go.
    http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/03/03/trump-slams-pelosi-schumer-as-russia-meeting-pics-emerge.html

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  33. Don Bessee Avatar
    Don Bessee

    Its high time that poor ol’ PE expand his horizons and learned how to google. Living on huffpo and politico fakenews has crippled his dialogue and thought processes. πŸ˜‰

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  34. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    What are you trying to prove Walt?

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  35. George Rebane Avatar

    For the casual reader I draw your attention to the view of the Constitution, citizen’s rights, and the rights of illegal aliens (especially those fugitives who have successfully avoided the law for a long time) held by our liberal commenters. Their own words and supportive logic say it all. If you glossed over their arguments, then I submit you may well not understand the magnitude of the problem our country is facing.

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  36. Don Bessee Avatar
    Don Bessee

    Willful ignorance @ 339 poor ol’ PE.
    Poor ol’ PE’s heroine, the gun toting, felony committing, illegal alien is going to be deported without hearing because of her status. πŸ˜‰

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  37. Todd Juvinall Avatar
    Todd Juvinall

    The left does not want their gardeners and cooks and servants to be deported. Then they would have to do all the legal paperwork and pay minimum wages and taxes. That is why Paul E and his ilk are so against the Trump plans.

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  38. Walt Avatar

    Now you play stupid Paul? Forget your 2:35 already?
    More times than I care to even count you “demand” some link to what someone says, and more times than not someone else has already provided said info., You ignore it, and continue on your yap fest.
    Hell… I have posted plenty of facts to make my point in the past, yet somewhere down the line, you pipe up and have ignored said “evidence”.
    That “evidence” will show up soon enough. Your good at “forgetting”.

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  39. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    God Bless America for sending off a young woman to a strange land who was doing the best she could to become educated and live a worthwhile life. Those of you into Christianity can you show me the words of Jesus that would have justified this? . This was pure and simple retaliation for speaking out. Not a golden moment in the great American experiment.
    “A 22-year-old woman who came to the United States from Argentina as a 7-year-old child and was allowed to remain in the country under an Obama-era program was detained by immigration authorities after speaking at a news conference in Mississippi about her fears of being deported, her lawyer said on Thursday.
    The woman, Daniela Vargas, was picked up on Wednesday when the car she was riding in was pulled over by officers shortly after leaving the news conference at City Hall in Jackson, Miss., the lawyer, Abigail Peterson, said in a telephone interview.”
    https://www.nytimes.com/2017/03/02/us/immigrant-daca-detained.html

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  40. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    The Democrat Party is the greatest threat to the Constitution. There is no doubt about it.

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  41. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    If Nancy the Botox Queen met with the Russian President and then LIED about it, she should resign. She is a threat to democracy.

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  42. George Rebane Avatar

    PaulE 421pm – Excellent! Is there a suggestion of an immigration policy emerging from your comment? Or do you just suggest that law enforcement becomes a discretionary pursuit based on the details of each anecdotal case, or perhaps something else …? Any extension in your thinking as to what subsequent behaviors this will abet and solicit?

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  43. Walt Avatar

    Old news Paul.. We already know. Illegal is illegal. She might still be here if she didn’t play to the cameras. “Look at ME! I’m an illegal”. It’s going to be fun to watch when the next illegals go on parade waiving MEX flags down some Blvd in SoCal. ICE might have the buses around the corner of the next block. That might put a swift end to that “Make Ca. Mexico” crap.

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  44. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    No George. I do do suggest that there are greater laws than those we stumble around with and they do have to do with our spiritual values. I am questioning what in the Christian path justifies treating this young woman in that manner. Might I ask show me one lesson from Jesus that shows that decision . Are we not all human beings on this planet and what kind of God would prefer one over the other enough to sanctify that action?

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  45. fish Avatar
    fish

    Posted by: Paul Emery | 03 March 2017 at 04:21 PM
    We can argue the “why” of her deportation as long as you like Paul but it’s rather hypocritical to raise any religious aspects surrounding this incident.
    We are routinely reminded by the left that religion has no place in the establishment or implementation of the laws under a secular government.

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  46. Don Bessee Avatar
    Don Bessee

    Poor ol’ PE proves my 332 @ 421. Just parroting the party line with no intellectual engagement. Willfully ignoring that she committed a gun felony and is illegal as well massively stupid for how she handled this. She should be deported just for being that stupid on top of the rest. Spitting in the face of la migre might have seemed priceless to the illegal snowflake but she just found out there is a price for being a criminal. πŸ˜‰

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  47. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    Might I quote Woddy Guthrie at this time
    “As through this life I ramble I meet some funny men
    Some rob you with a six gun and some with a fountain pen
    As through this live I ramble
    As through this life I roam
    I’ve never seen an outlaw drive a family from their home
    Granted “Outlaw” is very romanticized but the the point is clear

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  48. fish Avatar
    fish

    Posted by: Paul Emery | 03 March 2017 at 04:42 PM
    Granted “Outlaw” is very romanticized but the the point is clear

    ???

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  49. Todd Juvinall Avatar
    Todd Juvinall

    Paul Emery | 03 March 2017 at 04:37 PM
    What is the druid treatise on this? Inquiring minds want to know. Is there a Druid bible?

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  50. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    The girl violated the term of her being here. Wait, did not the courts block the amnesty for 700,000 dreamers because of it was an unconstitutional act by POTUS Obama? Balance of powers and all that stuff.
    The Democrat Party is the greatest threat to our Constitutional Republic.

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