321 responses to “Sandbox – 25feb17”

1. 

   Bill Tozer

   01 March 2017

   Well. all in all, the Alt-Left Sandinistas will hate Trump even more today than yesterday. Good thing Trump spoke over their heads last night and good thing this is still a center right country. The libs always overestimate their numbers and relevancy.
   The Alt-Left Sandaistas are sooooo petty and think sooooo small. And have no heart to boot. Just yesterday all they could talk about was Kellyanne’s shoes on the couch. Bad girl. Every Sandinista Minister of Information had it on there news feeds all day long. Shocking! Disrespectful!. All left, all media, all the time. Glad no one here stooped to the depths of the Alt-Left MSM to even mention it…..until now.
   Just yesterday:
   https://www.facebook.com/RowdyConservatives/photos/a.217983685002343.55586.217926015008110/1036779996456037/?type=3&theater
   Just yesterday they missed the forest from the trees, again. Today, they are taking about TelePrompters and now hating on that traitor Van Jones, lol. Bernie is saying this morning Trump’s guests last night were sinisterly picked to stir up…..drumroll please….”fear and hatred”. Liberalism is truly a mental disease. Somethings never change.
   https://www.facebook.com/RowdyConservatives/photos/a.217983685002343.55586.217926015008110/1036341276499909/?type=3&theater

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   Bill Tozer

   01 March 2017

   This is an example of wonderful and tolerate and open minded and compassionate the TURDs are. Lovely.
   https://www.facebook.com/UncleSamsMisguidedChildren.Net/photos/a.169953786533962.1073741830.169676909894983/642060399323296/?type=3&theater

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   Todd Juvinall

   01 March 2017

   Paul Emery | 01 March 2017 at 10:12 AM
   ACOE

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   BradC

   01 March 2017

   OUCH!
   https://www.thelocal.de/userdata/images/article/eadad4c08215c276e6e10d7db0424134f9508e88d74d36be73d1b3e7fd9a0669.jpg

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5. 

   George Rebane

   01 March 2017

   English grammar is hard, especially since they stopped teaching it in our unionized public schools. Even the county’s self-declared Critic Extraordinaire of all things moral, journalistic, ideological, and even prose seems to have at least one pot hole in his education – “…when he referred to my wife and I …” Modern times.

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   Paul Emery

   01 March 2017

   Just a note for us Libertarian Types (Gregory, Fish) that Ron Paul gave Trump an “F” grade on his speech last night-interview on MSNBC
   http://thefreethoughtproject.com/ron-paul-destroyed-trumps-speech/

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   Todd Juvinall

   01 March 2017

   That is why Ron Paul is a huge loser.

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   Todd Juvinall

   01 March 2017

   And he is now a shill for freeze dried food packages. You cannot make this stuff up.

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9. 

   Bill Tozer

   01 March 2017

   Brad C @ 11:35 am. Now, that is funny. You must be a libertarian or member of the Independent Farm Party of Minnesota because we all know liberals were born without a sense of humor. Plus, the Alt-Left takes everything soooo seriously. Like everything is a matter of life and death to them. Drama Queens to boot. Good job, Brad. You are coming along just fine. :). A little humor covers a multiple of sins.

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10. 

    Paul Emery

    01 March 2017

    So Todd the did the Army Corp of Engineers pay a visit to your property and examine your mud hole?

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11. 

    Todd Juvinall

    01 March 2017

    Why do you ask?

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12. 

    Walt

    01 March 2017

    Where is that “smart guy” who said “coal is DEAD”? Come on out “jon”,, Read it and weep.
    http://www.foxnews.com/us/2017/03/01/coal-mining-begins-seeing-revival-as-trump-gives-industry-hope.html

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13. 

    Don Bessee

    01 March 2017

    DOW 21,115! What?!? No polls from the poor ol’ pollhead PE? Did our resident fakenewsman take the good Dr’s bet? 😉

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14. 

    Paul Emery

    01 March 2017

    Todd
    I am working on educating my self about the intrusion of government in our daily lives and that’s something I don’t know much about. It’s part of my Green Libertarian training.

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    Todd Juvinall

    01 March 2017

    Sure it is. Maybe you should train about the press screwing over the people first.

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16. 

    Paul Emery

    01 March 2017

    Don
    My decision on Georges proposed wager will not be included in my daily babbling on this blog.

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17. 

    Walt

    01 March 2017

    Only now are “looking into gov. intrusion”? How long have we been pointing it out?
    What we lose in FED gov. intrusion under Trump, don’t worry Paul, the state of Ca. will make up for it in spades.

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18. 

    Gregory

    01 March 2017

    So Paul E. 1208, remind me, when did you actually register Libertarian Party? As far as I know you remain a registered Democrat, so, do us all a favor and use a small “l”
    What keeps tripping you up is as a new or insincere libertarian, like Trump’s newfound love of Bible quotations, your citations are lacking. Libertarians aren’t looking for a demigod from which to receive judgments as to the correct path; just give me your take and I’ll consider it. And the biggest failing of Libertarians in general (not Ron Paul, but certainly the reviewer who declared R.Paul “demolished” Trump’s speech) is judging speech by its fealty to some libertarian ideal. An overambitious and undereducated local self appointed Libertarian leader, “Lance” who seems to have moved to other pastures, was guilty of this to the extreme.
    A Presidential address to Congress has political meaning and should be judged by the goal of the President delivering the speech, their party and how well it herds the federal housecats (Senatecats, too) towards their goals.
    Without eminent domain, practically, no dam, no pipeline, no road, no sidewalk, no work with benefits to the public at large could ever be produced, so we have Constitutions and regulations produced by the legislature that outline how it must be done, the due process to be followed, in order to NOT be theft but, like so many things decided at all levels of our government, full property rights and just compensation for any taking often get short sheeted.
    Paul E, in other words, I’m not looking for pipers to follow, pied or not, nor Federal priests to lay down how to think. As to actions, I agree with the Jerry Brown of old who, when asked if he drives after drinking responded with something to the effect of “driving while under the influence is against the law and I follow the law as best I can”.
    I think Trump’s words and actions should be measured by the rights and freedoms (not the same as entitlements) citizens enjoy year by year compared to what we’d have with with a Hillary Clinton in the office. So far, as far as I am concerned, the nomination of Gorsuch, with an all but assured Senate confirmation by the Senate and the most libertarian Senator in office, Rand Paul, being obviously happy with Gorsuch, endorsing the judge as a choice he could have made… that’s all better than I’d have expected from Clinton, Inc.

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19. 

    Gregory

    01 March 2017

    Punchy 1:48, here’s a reading list I’d suggest
    Friedman(s), “Free to Choose”, “Capitalism and the Historians”
    Locke, Treatise on Government I and II
    Then, reread the constitution.
    For comedy relief, read this Reason article from a decade ago:
    http://reason.com/archives/2006/12/05/south-park-libertarians
    Let me know if you get stuck on a detail.

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20. 

    fish

    01 March 2017

    Interesting blog post on the ongoing schism between old and new right…..
    http://thezman.com/wordpress/?p=9720

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21. 

    Paul Emery

    01 March 2017

    Actually Gregory I will register independent. I am a Green Libertarian and the “Libertarian Party” does not particularly appeal to me as an institution to attach myself to.
    Remember my Green Libertarian credo is:
    “We have as much government as we deserve”
    By the way Ron Paul himself gave Trump an “F” for his speech not the author of the article I cited. The video of his message is here.
    http://www.msnbc.com/msnbc-news/watch/the-libertarian-perspective-on-trump-s-address-887865923865

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22. 

    Paul Emery

    01 March 2017

    Trump behind in approval in all polls except Fox with a measly +1. Historically low standing for a new President.

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23. 

    Paul Emery

    01 March 2017

    oh yeah
    http://www.pollingreport.com/djt_job.htm

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24. 

    George Rebane

    01 March 2017

    fish 238pm – It was hard to keep reading your blogger after he ended the first paragraph – PJ Media is concerned “more about the trouble makers to their Right than they do the supposed enemies on the Left, because they never want to get in trouble with the Left.” One of us has serious trouble understanding English.
    The rest of it didn’t make much sense either because he never identified the objectives of the younger generation that would give purpose to their desire to overturn everything. Without knowing their purpose, they look just like a bunch of rock apes turned loose on the street.
    PaulE 251pm – Paul, I’ve been quietly trying to wrap my head around your libertarian credo – no joy. Who or what agency determines our just deserts and maps that to the correct level of government? Is it some ‘hidden hand’?

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25. 

    fish

    01 March 2017

    Posted by: George Rebane | 01 March 2017 at 02:58 PM
    Well that is the impetus behind the Trump phenomenon and behind the Alt-Right in general it seems….the desire to break with the establishment right because they see conservatism inc rolled by the progressives on a fairly regular basis.
    Break it and see what comes after.

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26. 

    George Rebane

    01 March 2017

    fish 304pm – I suppose that is the best that can be said for them, and perhaps for all of us who voted for Trump.

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27. 

    Paul Emery

    01 March 2017

    Very good question George. I struggle with an answer to that myself. The difficulty in coming up with an answer is you have to take population under consideration. Certainly that threshold with which we have to subscribe to government for order is different if we lived in a mostly self sufficient rural environment with a relatively small population and a few clusters of small towns as opposed to what we have today.
    I’d like to discuss that in detail if you’re interested.

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    George Rebane

    01 March 2017

    PaulE 311pm – It’s shibboleth I’ve heard before and never understood. You’re the first to have nominated it as part of your credo, therefore it would be of interest for us to understand how it could be understood, and then how you personally understand it.

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    Bill Tozer

    01 March 2017

    “Certainly that threshold with which we have to subscribe to government for order is different if we lived in a mostly self sufficient rural environment with a relatively small population and a few clusters of small towns as opposed to what we have today.”
    You mean like the Amish?

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30. 

    Bill Tozer

    01 March 2017

    @ 3:07 pm.
    That’s what makes us Deplorable.so deplorable.
    it was the conservatives who drove us to the dance and it’s been a long drive. They were worried not too long ago they would even make it, driving over the Arroyo Grande and all the chasms. They started this trip and decided getting there was more important than balancing the budget stuff and wiping out shoes on the mat before entering. The doors to the dance hall were closing and it was our last chance to get in. Picked up some road tramps and assorted hobos along the way.. Once inside, the conservatives get to choose the music and have the last dance. Hey, its only been 40 days and 40 nights.

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31. 

    Don Bessee

    01 March 2017

    Looks like poor ol’ PE chickened out on the bet @ 154.
    Its official, the 49ers are rid of Kapernick. 😉

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32. 

    Don Bessee

    01 March 2017

    UCSF fired 49 American IT workers and hired an IT contractor in India. So which is it, are they spending too much on illegal alien free tuition or is it an anti-Trump move?

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33. 

    Scott Obermuller

    01 March 2017

    “Very good question George. I struggle with an answer to that myself.”
    So – Paul posts his grand design for govt and admits he doesn’t know what the hell he’s talking about.
    ‘It depends’.
    It sure does.
    First of all – who is ‘we’?
    And as George observed – who gets to decide the term deserve?
    And what solid parameters are used?
    Basically Paul’s little motto is so obtuse, it means absolutely nothing.
    Good try, Paul. Back to the drawing board.
    “I’d like to discuss that in detail if you’re interested.”
    Really?

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34. 

    Walt

    01 March 2017

    It’s about time ICE gets busy. Trump has removed the handcuffs and the agents went to work.
    If your an illegal, it’s not smart anymore to make a spectacle of yourself in staged public appearances.
    http://www.clarionledger.com/story/news/local/2017/03/01/immigrant-detained-after-press-conference/98589720/
    I’m waiting to see the next “march” by the illegals. Will ICE have buses waiting around the corner? (I sure hope so)
    Yup, waive that MEX flag in protest. You might find yourself “back home” before you know it.

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35. 

    Don Bessee

    01 March 2017

    Any bets on how bad the ratings will be on the Clinton news network town hall with McCain and Lindsey Graham? 😉

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36. 

    Bill Tozer

    01 March 2017

    PE’s dilemma is he has just enough “don’t tread on me” classic liberalism/libertarian in him to not vote for Jill Stein yet the perfect candidate has not yet been born or conformed perfectly to PE’s world view. Restrained Big Brother does fit with single payer nor progressivism. Oh, what to do, what to do. If only Socialism did not lead to statism, all would be grand. Like Trump, some things refuse to be put in the neatly labeled box.
    Picture time:
    https://www.facebook.com/PatriotPost/photos/a.82108390913.80726.51560645913/10154493931380914/?type=3&theater
    https://www.facebook.com/lastamericapatriots/photos/a.235087906641439.1073741826.235086849974878/806148302868727/?type=3&theater

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    Bill Tozer

    01 March 2017

    Russia: 5 uncomfortable truths. Confrontation with Russia?
    “But regardless of where one wants to pin blame for these heightened tensions, the risks of heightening them further are incredibly high – one could plausibly say: incomparably high. Yet in the name of being “tough” on Putin, those risks are virtually never discussed, and anyone who attempts to raise them in the context of advocating better relations will almost instantly be accused of being a Kremlin stooge, or worse.”
    As Even The New Yorker Admits™, the primary reason for Trump, for Brexit, and for growing right-wing über-nationalism throughout Europe is that prevailing neoliberal policies have destroyed the economic security and future of hundreds of millions of people, rendering them highly susceptible to scapegoating and desperate, in a nothing-to-lose sort of way, for any type of radical change, no matter how risky or harmful that change might be. But all of that gets to be ignored, all of the self-reckoning is avoided, as long we get ourselves to believe that some omnipotent foreign power is behind it all.
    https://theintercept.com/2017/02/28/the-new-yorkers-big-cover-story-reveals-five-uncomfortable-truths-about-u-s-and-russia/

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38. 

    Don Bessee

    01 March 2017

    BT @ 646- It seems that poor ol’ PE’s political credo is part situational ethics and part chameleon. That lets him be what he wants to be on every issue, of course it is coupled with trying to claim the high ground. It is all subservient to his BDS and TURD eruptions. He really needs to get the salve for those. 😉

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39. 

    Gregory

    01 March 2017

    “We have as much government as we deserve”
    “Paul’s “Green Libertarian” tagline
    Looking for quivalents…
    https://blog.hubspot.com/marketing/cliche-marketing-taglines
    Paul, that meaningless drip would bring that list of 10 to 11, for those times in a campaign where a bloke really needs to make it one dumber.

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40. 

    Bill Tozer

    01 March 2017

    Education is the civil rights issue of our time.
    https://patriotpost.us/opinion/47709

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41. 

    Bill Tozer

    01 March 2017

    1) I do not want to fundamentally change America as we know it. I just want to save what is left of it.
    2) I did not want a tweaking of the edges, I wanted real change.
    3) Just about everything held dear and espoused in academia, MSM, elite circles, Hollywood, Social Justice Warriors, and the Alt-Left are 100% diametrically opposed to what I believe.
    It don’t get much simpler than that.
    The fun part is the Media still has a big open wound for getting the 2016 election of Donald J. Trump so wrong, so completely wrong. So, what does Trump do with the big hurt the media is carrying around? He calls them fake news, then calls them back and calls them very fake news. Then, he calls them back again, and really lays into them. That is icing on the cake.
    Why Trump won was not because a majority of people felt the nation was on the wrong track. No, for the first time, people felt that our nation is in decline. Not everybody, but enough to decide the election. Decline.
    Turns on the news and you see a nation in decline every single night. Bias media, what is coming out of our colleges, what is being taught in our colleges, the carnage of our urban blight, breakdown of the respect of law, the economy, the safety nets getting ready to burst, road and bridge maintenance delayed for another year, crime and drug epidemics, tv sitcoms, etc. Social Justice Warriors in academia, government, and in the corporate sector trashing the idea of the color blind society envisioned by MLK.
    Time and patience ran out. The kids ran the place into the ground. Time to step in and put a cog in the gears. The kids need a time out and the adults have taken charge of the remote.

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42. 

    Russ

    02 March 2017

    Oops, Sweden’s Problems more that Right Wing Talking Points. More Truth to Trump’s statement than the left is willing to acknowledge.
    German Government Issues Travel Warning for Sweden Because of Terrorism Risk
    https://heatst.com/world/german-government-issues-travel-warning-for-sweden/

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43. 

    BradC

    02 March 2017

    Russ, better double check your sources. I think you might have been punked by fake news. Is heatst.com a highly reputable news source?
    I googled the headline and only got hits from obscure echo chamber-looking sites.

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44. 

    Bill Tozer

    02 March 2017

    Here we go again. The day after Trump’s address to Congress, Russian Xenophobia is one the front pages. What a political game. This one is too transparent. Stop the Trump agenda, call for Sessions to resign, blah, blah, blah.
    The weak kneed RHINOs and Republicans run for cover everytime a pimply faced 26 year old 110 pound reporter from NBC asks a question. That is why they are a bigger problem than Chucky’s references to Alice in Wonderland. Good thing Trump won’t melt into a babbling puddle like the lot of them.
    For those who are unknowing, all the ambassadors from foreign countries made the rounds on The Hill, seeking support or just to make contacts. Likewise, the legislative branch members meet the tons of ambassors to ask questions and hear their concerns and needs….and make contacts.
    The Heritage Foundation hosts Senators, Congresspersons, and 50 ambassadors for meet and greet yearly. Well attended by both sides of the aisle. The RNC hosted a buffet with 25 ambassadors present last year, one of the two “meetings” then Senator Sessions had with the Russian Ambassador (and a couple dozen more foreign dignitaries.) What, they exchanged pleasantries or bumped into each other loading their plates at the buffet??
    Sessions did not lie under oath to Al Frankenfrog or the Senate Hearings. Here is the full question asked and the full answer given at the bottom of the link. The context of the question is clearly asked about political contacts between the campaign and Russia.
    There is once again no there there. Pelosi is a national embarrassment this morning. She is there in front of the cameras, calling for a special prosecutor, accusing Sessions of perjury, calling for his resignation, accusing him and Repubicans of big time coverup and….she is there yapping before even hearing from Sessions himself because she is not all there.
    http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2017/03/01/jeff-sessions-fake-news-washington-post-misquote-used-target/
    This is just another attempt to smash and grab power. Instead of wearing white, the Dem ladies should just go back to wearing their #NeverTrump shirts.
    I do understand the Alt-Left Media’s frustration with the FBI finding zero evidence of Trump’s campaign collusion with the Russians. Still, it won’t stop the feeding frenzy.

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45. 

    Scott Obermuller

    02 March 2017

    Must-read for today. From the NYTs – “How the Internet Threatens Democracy”!!!!
    I found it, of course, on the internet.
    The absolute howler was the complaint that the major political parties have lost control. Really? The DNC lost control? No, they got exposed.
    https://www.nytimes.com/2017/03/02/opinion/how-the-internet-threatens-democracy.html?_r=0
    It seems the insulated elites really have no intention of learning about what is really happening out on the ground.

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    George Rebane

    02 March 2017

    BradC 824am – Apparently you did not look very hard beyond the “echo chamber sites”. Besides, is there any evidence that the German govt did NOT issue such a warning, and that Sweden did not reinstate its ‘Level 4’ terror threat level this year? Just because the lamestream does not report something is not proof of its absence.
    http://www.express.co.uk/travel/articles/770234/Sweden-is-it-safe-travel-advice-holiday-information-terror-threat-crime-rates
    https://www.rt.com/news/341115-sweden-isis-us-warning/

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47. 

    Todd Juvinall

    02 March 2017

    Uh oh, looks like Jeff Sessions may have talked to a Russian when he was a sitting Senator. And the usual lefty Senators and cgumps are all aghast!

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48. 

    Bill Tozer

    02 March 2017

    @8::54
    Todd, every second the Alt-Left Establishment focuses on their Russian obsession is one more second they can spend not looking at why they got shellacked steadily since 2010. It’s the Russians, not our ideas! We were not rejected! We have the winning message and need to go a better job to get our meassage out! When people hear our message, they will flock to our side!
    Denial is not a river in Egypt.
    The silver lining is as long as Russia continues to exist on the map, the Loopy Progressives will not look within for the reason they are basically out of power for awhile.
    All they have left as of today now is disrupt, Sessions has a Russian pin on his shirt hidden under his suit lapels, and Trump is a Russian operative. Sad to see how they have self destructed.
    Funny, when the USSR was a huge existential threat to the West and were real Commie Bastards and spreading communism across the globe to take over the world, Bernie Sanders honeymooned there. Not an easy place to be a tourist at the time. But, we won’t talk about that. 🙂

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49. 

    fish

    02 March 2017

    Why does a seemingly self sufficient woman…trusted advisor to the former “Leader of the Free World” (heh) “need” to live with the Obama family?
    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4271412/Obama-confidante-Valerie-Jarrett-moves-Kaloroma-home.html
    Barry is going to get an idea so spectacular that he needs to bounce it off Val at 2:11 am in his jammies?
    Doesn’t he know how to text…….?

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50. 

    fish

    02 March 2017

    When you want to whine about the election but retain the facade of intellectual analysis…..
    

    “As the forces of reaction outpace movements predicated on the ideal of progress, and as traditional norms of political competition are tossed aside, it’s clear that the internet and social media have succeeded in doing what many feared and some hoped they would. They have disrupted and destroyed institutional constraints on what can be said, when and where it can be said and who can say it.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2017/03/02/opinion/how-the-internet-threatens-democracy.html?_r=0
    “and as traditional norms of political competition are tossed aside”
    “Traditional norms”…….that means progressives win and you guys keep a stiff upper lip and maintain proper decorum in defeat.
    The Old Fey Lady….little more than electronic bird cage liner these days!

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