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[334 comments and counting in the last sandbox.  I think we've had a sea change in the sandbox debates participation.  gjr]

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411 responses to “Sandbox – 21feb17”

  1. Walt Avatar

    And you live by that “requirement” daily Paul. You NEVER supply ANY. And rigged polls ain’t proof.

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  2. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    Bill
    there are so many things on this blog that are documented by Breitbart that it opes the burdon of proof to any source since they are such acknowledged liars. It’s the bed you have to sleep in if you use them as sources. No standards.

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  3. Don Bessee Avatar
    Don Bessee

    Well that’s a pouty little poll head PE @ 139. ๐Ÿ˜‰

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  4. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    Mark the Tape:
    A prediction, a heads up, a wild guess: Be prepared in the coming days for the full blown Alt-Left carpet bombing that Trumps Is Anti-Semitic!!!! Trump’s inner circle is anti-Semitic!! I could be wrong, but it will justify choosing Keith E Harkim as DNC chair. Meanwhile back here on Earth….niice human interest stories:
    http://ijr.com/2017/02/808532-when-a-jewish-cemetery-was-desecrated-the-man-who-rolled-up-his-sleeves-showed-it-wasnt-beneath-his-high-office/?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=promoted&utm_campaign=america_newlikegate&utm_content=election&utm_term=ijamerica&hide_ads%5B0%5D=IJR_Desktop_InContent_Video
    “Some 50 years ago, real estate developer Fredrick Trump donated the land for the Talmud Torah of the Beach Haven Jewish Center at 723 Ave. Z in Flatbush, NY, as can be seen from a promotional image released by that institution. The center is open and active to this day, offering programs for youth and the elderly, as well as an active synagogue.”
    http://www.jewishpress.com/news/breaking-news/reports-trumps-donated-bigly-to-jewish-causes/2016/11/21/

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  5. Don Bessee Avatar
    Don Bessee

    I was watching the dow look like it was going to break the 10 day streak of record highs but then the President signed the EO on deregulation panels. At the very end of the session it bounced back and ended up for the 11th straight record! Making America Great Again! ๐Ÿ˜‰

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  6. Walt Avatar

    Maybe I missed it. Can someone point to the fascism that Trump is supposed to subscribe to?
    Yet that all we hear. Upholding laws on the books? Not to mention scrapping a few law books, Getting the “G”man off our backs in some places, yet Fascist is still the charge.
    Seems to me those who are yelling it the loudest, are actually the perpetrators.

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  7. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    In an interesting face to face with a millennial blogger last fall, the young man pointed out a nuance used by the press that opened my eyes. The young man said that everytime a Hillary mouthpiece went on MSM, the person was referred to as a “Clinton surrogate”. Everytime a Trump mouthpiece went on the same news shows, the person was referred to as an “Trump operative”.
    Interesting. Surrogate verses operative. Perceptive young man. Operative has Brown Shirt connotations, while surrogate has advocacy connotations.
    Think Jonah Goldberg noticed the same nuances and he is hardly a Trumpster by any stretch.
    https://patriotpost.us/opinion/47639

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  8. Don Bessee Avatar
    Don Bessee

    If the political spectrum was a sphere, communists and fascists would be next to each other on the other side from democracy. They were already closely related in the real world. The Nazis lost the war and left us the communists who are now a powerful force in the democrat party.
    The protester class of the democrat party are indistinguishable from either the communist or Nazi street thugs of the past. Same tactics, same attitude and now the democrat protester class has adopted the garb of the Nazi street thugs, all black like the SS. Much more fashionable than brown over black.
    Throwing fascist around is just projecting their own dark soul onto others. ๐Ÿ˜‰

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  9. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    One user asked him, โ€œWhat do you tell a 12-year-old girl who doesnโ€™t want to see a penis in the locker room?โ€
    โ€œI wonder if she is the problem or her overprotective and intolerant dad? teach tolerance,โ€ Cuomo shot back.
    https://patriotpost.us/posts/47667

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  10. Scott Obermuller Avatar

    “there are so many things on this blog that are documented by Breitbart that it opes the burdon of proof to any source since they are such acknowledged liars. It’s the bed you have to sleep in if you use them as sources. No standards.”
    Oh, poor Pauly. Lost the argument and can’t admit defeat.
    C’mon, Paul – we’ll be gentle. What is it we claimed that you can’t find a poll for? Maybe we can help.

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  11. Don Bessee Avatar
    Don Bessee

    Now you are going to get poor ol’ PE all titillated again BT @ 244. ๐Ÿ˜‰

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  12. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    Oh goodie! I like cleavage….
    The cleavage between environmentalists and workers grew more entrenched as Trump got closer to the Oval Office. Before Obama decided to nix the controversial Dakota Access Pipeline, for exampleโ€”which at the time was in mid-construction and producing real paychecks for real workersโ€”five labor unions that collectively represent 3.5 million workers pleaded with Obama to โ€œstand up for American workersโ€ and allow construction of the pipeline to continue.
    Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2017/02/24/the-great-exacerbation-trumps-pipeline-politics-will-cripple-the-democratic-party/#ixzz4Ze7iUzsI

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  13. Walt Avatar

    Thanks Don. I’m still waiting for the all knowing Paul to offer up some facts to Trump’s fascism.
    Now for the Lefty side of things…. The radical Left polluted the the name of “Democrat”, when that became a dirty word, they shed that skin and donned the name “Liberal”.(better than being called DEM at that time) When Liberal took on the same dictionary definition
    as asswipe, a new reference was hunted down.. What was found? Progressive. Sounded all warm and fuzzy at the time. Now that name is loathed by anyone who isn’t.
    Will the current Progs now show their real stripes? Call themselves what they truly are?
    Socialists. Maybe,,, Western Marxists.
    Seen what’s been going on with the donkey party leader hunt? DAMN!! Each one trying to “out Left” the other. No sense of sanity coming from the Mule party, party. What are they using as a gavle there? a 2×4?

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  14. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    The counter revolution cannot be silenced. First it was Milo, now it is Sabo! How absolutely “irredeemable”. Oh, Milo was right. Ghost Busters 2 is an overrated lame movie and Leslie Jones does look like a dude.
    Sabo strikes again! What it is with these artists that go by one name? Must be the Liberace influence or something.
    http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/la-street-artist-targets-oscars-mocking-posters-hollywood-highland-979443

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  15. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    Oh my. This will really get the tongues wagging. Breitbart got in???
    “The White House press pool usually includes representatives from one television outlet, one radio outlet and one print outlet, as well as reporters from a few wire services. In this case, four of the five major television networks — NBC, ABC, CBS and Fox News — were invited and attended the meeting, while only CNN was blocked.
    And while The New York Times was kept out, conservative media organizations Breitbart News, The Washington Times and One America News Network were also allowed in.”
    http://money.cnn.com/2017/02/24/media/cnn-blocked-white-house-gaggle/
    That Trump don’t know the rules! Ah, he is such a novice. Give him time and he will get with the program……not!

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  16. Walt Avatar

    The LIB media elite believe they are owed something. How many times did “O” and Co. leave FOX out in the cold? I haven’t heard anywhere that reporters have been locked in a closet at a Trump function. Yes, there was a little sniveling by the guy who “O” had “quarantined”, but no hissy fits like what the MSM is doing now. It was “OK” when “O” did it.

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  17. Don Bessee Avatar
    Don Bessee

    Now we know why poor ol’ PE is grumpy, he didn’t get invited to the gaggle at the WH either. ๐Ÿ˜‰

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  18. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    Walt @ 2:21 pm
    Don @ 2:42 pm
    โ€œThe difference between communism and socialism is that under socialism central planning ends with a gun in your face, whereas under communism central planning begins with a gun in your face.โ€
    โ€• Kevin D. Williamson, The Politically Incorrect Guide to Socialism (Politically Incorrect Guides

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  19. Don Bessee Avatar
    Don Bessee

    I know this might be like saying bettlejuice three times but …. The dems are locked in self destruct mode for sure. Rasmusson said Americans support the Trump immigration goals by a margin of 3 to 1. Even half of the dems. Go comrade Keith Ellison xxx, is Farrakhan a dem delegate now? ๐Ÿ˜‰

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  20. Todd Juvinall Avatar
    Todd Juvinall

    Now the George Soros funded protestors are yelling for Trump’s tax returns. What a hoot! They are really an embarrassment to the country.

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  21. Walt Avatar

    I go and serve up digital BBQ just for Paul and doesn’t even take a nibble.
    I thought he would LOVE to expose Trump as a fascist. Now there is gratitude for ya’.

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  22. Todd Juvinall Avatar
    Todd Juvinall

    Rassmussen has Trump plus six. Even PE’s fav Gallup is down to nine from 13 just a couple of days ago. And best of all Right track/wrong track is only minus 2. Under Obummer it was ten times worse!

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  23. Don Bessee Avatar
    Don Bessee

    Now that’s definitely saying Beetlejuice three time Todd. ๐Ÿ˜‰

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  24. Walt Avatar

    Well,,,, found out where Paul slinked off too.
    http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2017/02/24/witches-unite-cast-binding-spell-trump-followers/
    It’s gotta be a tad on the chilly side down at the river casting hate spells buck nekkid.
    Let us know how it works out Paul.

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  25. Don Bessee Avatar
    Don Bessee

    Walt, will we see a report in the union tomorrow about a clutch of druid popsicles found at the river? ๐Ÿ˜‰

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  26. Walt Avatar

    I don’t know Don, the local rag just ain’t what it used to be. Hell! the current editor still publicly states that Tump started the birther craze, when in fact it was Hillary.
    The NC Scooper has better creds that The Union.

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  27. Don Bessee Avatar
    Don Bessee

    Build the wall coming to a boarder near you soon, its being reported that the first contacts for the wall will be signed in April. ๐Ÿ˜‰

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  28. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    Wonder if the Green Libertation types found any good impeachment material today. I bet they did….off working on it right now, I reckon. Stay tuned.
    Yep, it does sound familiar. From a feminist writer who once ran the LA Chapter of NOW.
    “So on one hand, heโ€™s a Machiavellian traitor cohort of Russian President Vladimir Putin. On the other, heโ€™s a guy who is mentally ill. Oh, heck, letโ€™s make it both. The New Republic, a leftist rag, chimed in with its obscene suggestion that the president is possibly suffering from an undiagnosed case of syphilis. Because โ€ฆ why not?”
    http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2017/02/24/trump-reagan-parallels-are-scary-but-not-for-reasons-critics-think.html

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  29. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    Just found out you have a great chance of being killed by a toddler than by refugees from Trumps banned list. What a joke.
    http://www.snopes.com/toddlers-killed-americans-terrorists/

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  30. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    Scenes: you make it too easy.

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  31. Don Bessee Avatar
    Don Bessee

    It seems good ol’ PE thinks that its a civil right for the rest of the world to come to the US. The US has massive debt and flooding unskilled workers only benefits the 1% good ol’ PE, you should know better. It damages communities of color and takes money from our families. It is a zero sum game. OH ya, its greater, not ‘have a great chance… ya poor ol’ poll head PE. ๐Ÿ˜‰

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  32. Don Bessee Avatar
    Don Bessee

    Speaking of fake news good ol’ PE, after hearing all the whimpering and sniveling about some media being excluded from an off camera Spicer meeting the truth gets out. There were in fact two of them today, the earlier one included the Clinton News Network where they got a tongue lashing about their fake news for not telling the whole FBI story, you know the part where Comey told Spicer to go public as he did.
    Will newsman poor ol’ PE tell the whole truth on KVMR? ๐Ÿ˜‰

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  33. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    I’m going to tell the story how the possible crackdown on legalized Marijuana is going to be a boost to illegal growing and how it is being celebrated by the illegal growers as a return to the good old days. Also there will be kudos to your organization for promoting the policy. Wanna be a guest on the News program? I want to air all sides of the story.

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  34. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    By the way what ever happened to investigations intovoter fraud and the 5 million illegal votes? Seems to have disappeared.

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  35. ScenesFromTheApocalypse Avatar
    ScenesFromTheApocalypse

    Those darned Swedes, just what are they up to over there?
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_grenade_attacks_in_Sweden

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  36. Don Bessee Avatar
    Don Bessee

    Poor ol’ PE is still the most uninformed fakenewsman @ 826, that was a question in the televised press conf. Spicer gave the date the President appointed the commission with the VP as chair. DUH! Have another libation, it will sooth your nerves ya poor ol’ poll head.
    So our resident druid confirms he will not be telling the truth on the gaggles today @ 823.;-)

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  37. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    Telling the truth on the gaggles don? Please translate.
    For the record Don what is your view Don of the Feds cracking down on States that support legalized recreational MM?

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  38. Don Bessee Avatar
    Don Bessee

    How does a ‘newsman’ not know what a WH gaggle is ya poor ol’ poll head PE? Come on, connect the dots, there are lots of clues, well that and google. ๐Ÿ˜‰

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  39. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    Still curious about your view on potential federal crackdowns on recreational marijuana

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  40. George Rebane Avatar

    What is all this “word is (this)” and “word is (that)”?? Is that supposed to represent verity, vindication, or even verification? New sources of evidence?

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  41. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    George most of the riders and contributors to this blog with yourself being an exception don’t even attempt to document their opinions I finally just gave up and have adapted their style When in Rome do as the Romans do

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  42. Don Bessee Avatar
    Don Bessee

    The poor ol’ poll head PE is projecting again. Willful ignorance and read and fail to comprehend are good ol’ PE’s problems. No engagement in the ongoing conversation just lame poll deflections and repeating the dem talking points for lefties.
    Pretending to be ignorant of common knowledge and demanding PROFF are diversions to cover no ability to respond intellectually.
    Parroting is what poor ol’ PE is reduced to, the poll says, the poll says and a bevy of questions to distract. Lame is as lame does. ๐Ÿ˜‰

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  43. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    Most people think their own jobs are hard, but journalists never tire of letting people know just how crucial theirs is and how under appreciated they are.
    The public, as when listening to a friend who’s always complaining, rolls its eyes.
    On Friday, White House press secretary Sean Spicer hosted the daily press briefing but only invited select news outlets into his office for it, rather than hosting it in the traditional briefing room with every credentialed outlet allowed.
    Spicer said before the inauguration that he would do something like this from time to time. It wasn’t controversial then and it isn’t now.
    But sensing an existential threat in not being able to ask the White House about things Trump says on Twitter, the media’s survival instincts kicked in.
    “This is not okay,” said CNN anchor Brooke Baldwin.
    Washington Post reporter Wesley Lowery appealed to the nobility of his profession and said that “no one should have attended this while others excluded this way.”
    (Reporters should remember that the next time the Post gets an exclusive it didn’t share with the rest of them.)
    And during his marathon of a press conference last week, Trump accused the news media of harboring “hatred” and making up “fake news.”
    He told a CNN reporter that his network was being downgraded from “fake news” to “very fake news.” Even the reporter, Jim Acosta, laughed.
    NBC “Meet the Press” moderator Chuck Todd, freedom’s compass, called Trump’s comments “un-American.”
    Every time Trump insults the national media, the public is made to endure a lecture on how important reporters are, how meaningful their place in society is.
    But at this point, it’s like seeing someone from work posting selfies on social media. We get it.
    Trump hasn’t done a single thing to limit press freedom, though he has shown a personal delight in overseeing the inevitable emotional breakdown every time he calls the media “fake.”
    Everyone else watches this play out, mildly amused and entirely indifferent to how invalidated Trump’s insults make reporters feel.
    People are too busy with their own jobs to worry about the media’s.

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  44. ScenesFromTheApocalypse Avatar
    ScenesFromTheApocalypse

    PE @ 10:32PM
    Exactly right. At this point in the Cold Civil War, there’s no point in explaining, convincing, or arguing. At this point, you are judged by the qualities of your allies.
    We are all Green Libertarians.
    I see that California schools are up to date in honoring federal law.
    https://www.campusreform.org/?ID=8822

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  45. fish Avatar
    fish

    Posted by: ScenesFromTheApocalypse | 25 February 2017 at 07:13 AM
    You are far too charitable Scenes……Pauls “Rope-a-Dope”……is all dope no rope !

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  46. Scott Obermuller Avatar

    from Paul: ” I finally just gave up and have adapted their style When in Rome do as the Romans do”
    Actually, no. My ‘style’ is to be aware of what is going on in the world using as many sources as I can. I read different opinions and watch videos if available. I base my opinions on as much factual info as is available. I have found a great number of MSM news stories to be ‘fake’ in that although they do report an actual event, many salient points are left out and the overall impression given to the reader is fairly untrue.
    A good case in point is the AP article that appeared in the Idaho Statesman covering the riots at the UC campus in Berkeley when Milo was scheduled to speak. It was perhaps 3 or 4 column inches with a single photo buried in the back pages. The photo was of a solemn solid line of police, batons at the ready with the student union building in the back ground. Not a single student or protester was in the frame. It was broad daylight, obviously well before any protest or riot actually took place.
    The article admitted that the rioters ‘lit a bonfire’ and informed the reader that there were no injuries and that no arrests were made. Of course, the article did spend some time making sure anyone not familiar with who Milo was, that he was pretty lucky guy not to have been arrested himself. How much or little was edited from the original AP story is impossible for me to know. After reading other accounts and watching the various videos available, it was clear the newspaper article was so far off base, it failed to properly inform. I made sure to read very carefully the following days of news to see if the newspaper would run any updates since they could, of course claim they ran the story as is due to time constraints of going to press with that days issue. There wasn’t. This was the same newspaper that ran this political cartoon of Milo.
    http://www.politico.com/gallery/2017/02/february-2017-002401?slide=7
    What ever you may think of Milo, the cartoon is clearly trying to give a deliberately false picture of his views.
    Again, for the leftistas here, Milo isn’t the point. It’s the many times I have found it necessary to go to as many different news sources as I can to get as true a picture as I can of an event or person.
    I also use a variety of search engines if possible.
    I do not offer anything as fact to this blog without having credible sources. Sometimes individuals who espouse a view I agree with turn out to be not credible or are not what they claim to be. I simply drop them as a source and move on.
    And, of course I have some fun from time to time as I noticed Paul doing with his ‘word is’ BS and I was mocking it.
    P.S. – Paul – be aware when using Snopes that the couple that started it aren’t what you would call model citizens.

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