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Sandbox – 21feb17

[334 comments and counting in the last sandbox.  I think we've had a sea change in the sandbox debates participation.  gjr]

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411 responses to “Sandbox – 21feb17”

  1. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    I don’t hang out there much Don. Do you?

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  2. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    You seem to know quite a lot about the place.

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  3. Todd Juvinall Avatar
    Todd Juvinall

    Ao Paul Emery who relentlessly tells us he is not a democrat and is a libertarian is a liar. Now what does that do to his credibility? And he says he is a democrat as a aside and kinda forgot to re-register. Sure. So as far as I and perhaps others are concerned, you are fake news and nothing you say is credible. Thanks for proving RR’s and its commenters correct. You “media” types are phony baloney.
    And no I am not looking at you link. Milo has some sexual foibles or fantasies and that is his deal. I am sure you have yours too.

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  4. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    Guess you all heard the bad news yesterday……about guns. At least the court wad not SCOTUS. Didn’t have the heart to post it yesterday. I am a sensitive guy, asswipes.
    http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/assault-weapons-not-protected-second-amendment-federal-appeals-court-rules-n724106?cid=sm_npd_nn_fb_ma

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  5. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    Todd
    Fair enough Todd. You recommend he be reinstated at CPAC but refuse to find out what he’s really all about. Good thing for the Repubs that they canned him. He could have gone into his perv rap, that you refuse to know about, and it would have been very embarrassing.

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  6. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    God Bless America
    “An undocumented woman from El Salvador awaiting brain surgery to remove a tumor was taken from a Texas hospital and detained by Immigration and Customs Enforcement agents Wednesday night, her legal team says.
    Sara Beltran-Hernandez, 26, had been in immigration detention since November 2015 because she did not have proper documentation when she tried to migrate to New York City, according to the New York Daily News.
    The mother of two had been held at Prairieland Detention Center in Alvarado, Texas, since Jan. 26, 2017, while her family members in New York tried to petition for her asylum. But she collapsed at the facility this month after experiencing severe headaches, nosebleeds and memory loss.
    “They had her tied up from hands and ankles,” said Melissa Zuniga, a paralegal on the case, in a statement. “She was brought in a wheelchair and is not being given treatment even though her nose continues to bleed and she has told them her head is exploding.”
    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/undocumented-woman-with-brain-tumor-removed-from-hospital-tied-up_us_58aefbd5e4b057efdce9ac25?ky99zmra4pt47psyvi&

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  7. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    My, my.
    Hey, tell ya what. Why don’t Paul and Don just get a room. You can both show off your favorite leather teddies and I will even send a limo to pick you fine frisky gentlemen up. If we start a Go Fund Me site I bet we could raise enough mula to put your up in the Bridal Suite. How cool would that be?

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  8. Todd Juvinall Avatar
    Todd Juvinall

    Why are my cicl rights under attack? LGBTQ people are infecting the body politic of the 99.5% of the normal folks. So I want the government to sue them and leave me and my civil rights alone.
    Paul Emery, you are one odd fellow. You support Takaei and others for their perversions apparently actually carried out, yet are harder (no pun intended) on Milo for his fantasies. And for your information I have seen him interviewed numerous times and I did a post on him as well long ago. As he says a “flaming faggot” can say and act out without reproach except for liberal hypocrites.

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  9. fish Avatar
    fish

    Posted by: Paul Emery | 23 February 2017 at 02:23 PM
    So what should we do Paul?

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  10. Walt Avatar
    Walt

    Did you make a phone call Paul? I’m sure you could have changed their minds.

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  11. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    I don’t support Takael Todd because there’s nothing to support him for. I don’t know much about him and he has no relevance in the conversation since as far as I know he’s not on anyone’s appearance agenda. I do think CPAC did the right thing to cancel Milo for their own reputation. More and more is coming out about him and I can’t for the life of me see why they gave him such a prominent spot to begin with. Breitbart is covering their ass and I don’t have a clue about the book deal. Of course you petitioned CPAC to keep him on but that’s your choice. This has nothing to do with free speech. Milo gets it and is laying low for awhile. Don’t worry todd, he’ll make a comeback so you’ll have plenty of chances to hear him. He’s a bright young man and is more of a shock jock than a credible source on anything.

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  12. Todd Juvinall Avatar
    Todd Juvinall

    Sure Paul Emery. Everytime you get boxed into the corner by your own rhetoric or beliefs you claim you really don’t know or support that. Just like saying all this time you are a libertarian while you are really a democrat. Always have an excuse. Well we are on to your ploys. You support Takaei because you don’t condemn him. That is what you say to us. So that is your problem.

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  13. Russ Avatar
    Russ

    BONG HIT: White House press secretary Sean Spicer says to expect stepped up federal enforcement of marijuana laws. The Obama administration had largely shied away from it.
    I wonder if the Nevada City Council knows about this change in direction by the Feds?

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  14. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    I’ve heard that to Russ. Word is it has to do more with Rec mm. We’ll see how this plays out. Supposedly Trump was for states rights. Another Trump lie if it’s true.
    Todd
    I give this whole issue of Milo a big “whatever” at this point. Kinda bored with it and I have too much to do right now-musical projects. Have a good day.

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  15. Russ Avatar
    Russ

    Go California!!
    CALIFORNIA LOVE: Lawmakers in California are expected to enforce strict environmental controls – a preemptive strike against Trump rolling back regulations.
    How long will it take for the exodus from the state to accelerate by businesses which will find adjoining states more profitable, as the Federal Environmental Rules are relaxed and California puts them in state regulations, maybe even turns the screw a bit in the process?
    California tried to get adjoining states to sign up for the Western Climate Initiative and force them to create their version of AB-32 to prevent companies from escaping California to more CO2 emission friendly states.
    When the chaff settled the only members of the WCI were the provinces of Quebec, British Columbia, Ontario, and the State of California. Adjoining states, plus Washington, Idaho, and Utah declared no deal, as the economic hit would be too big. Plus it was an opportunity to cherry pick some California companies who were interested in moving out or at least expanding out of California.
    My guess is those same states will see another opportunity to capture more CA companies as environmental regulations are relaxed in adjoining states, while California is polishing up the environmental regulatory noose for existing companies.

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  16. Don Bessee Avatar
    Don Bessee

    Todd 201- Poor ol’ PE has always failed to notice what primary ballot he got did he, sounds like fake news from the newsman.
    Poor ol’ poll head PE @ 157- I was born in SF and still have lots of family in the city and bay area.
    Poor ol’ democrat PE is going to be kicked out of the party for being a bigoted homo-phobe. 😉

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  17. ScenesFromTheApocalypse Avatar
    ScenesFromTheApocalypse

    re: Russ @ 4:23
    You have to wonder what the cost of having 49 state vs. California emissions has to be at this point. Insanity.

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  18. Don Bessee Avatar
    Don Bessee

    Hey, hey, hey, now BT @ 223- Just applying their politically correct standard on the fakenewsman, poor ol’ PE. 😉

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  19. Scott Obermuller Avatar
    Scott Obermuller

    Bill T at 2:13 – The sad news is not about guns. The sad (and scary) news is we have judges that are that ignorant.
    “Put simply, we have no power to extend Second Amendment protections to weapons of war.”
    Uh – Springfield bolt action .30-06s are now banned?
    The second amendment is all about private citizens having weapons of war.
    ‘A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.’
    This so-called judge thinks a well regulated militia should have bolt action 22s and shotguns. Oh wait, shotguns have been used in war. As have knives, spears, cross bows, clubs, rocks, air rifles and Lord knows what all. But if it’s used in war, we can’t have any at our house.
    This has to be the most dim-witted opinion ever offered from the bench.
    Probably going by the Gore principle that the 2nd A is about ‘hunters’ rights’.
    This judge is the saddest news we can have. He isn’t fit judge toilet paper.

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  20. Walt Avatar
    Walt

    Well hells bells! the Ozone blob must be due to LIBS.
    http://www.foxnews.com/science/2017/02/23/blob-in-pacific-ocean-linked-to-spike-in-ozone.html
    Funny how the ozone spikes in the dope growing regions. Hummm… Bill,, OH Bill!!
    Lets hit up the taxpayers for huge grant funding to see how much ozone pot plants produce.
    Can’t blame ozone on AGW. But at least we now know the source of our recurring dry spells.

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  21. Scott Obermuller Avatar
    Scott Obermuller

    Russ at 4:23 – “…the provinces of Quebec, British Columbia, Ontario, and the State of California.”
    And where did the WCI incorporate?
    Cali? Anywhere in Canuckistan? No siree. Delaware. Because Delaware is part of WCI? Ha ha. No – it’s because Delaware has no open meeting laws.
    Pretty slick, eh? We wouldn’t want the proles to catch onto our scam.
    They just wouldn’t understand.

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  22. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    Walt @4:52
    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=TdUsyXQ8Wrs

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  23. Scott Obermuller Avatar
    Scott Obermuller

    And one more for tonight. Remember those geniuses in Cali that promised us the new ‘top 2’ primary system would lower campaign costs?
    Doesn’t seem to work.
    http://calwatchdog.com/2017/02/23/california-democrats-spend-significant-campaign-cash-fighting-prop-14/
    And it doesn’t work because campaign costs will continue to rise to match the growing power (and financial power) of govt control over the private sector. The bigger and more powerful govt gets, the more lucrative it is to hold the reins of power in govt. Even if the state starts taking your money at gun point to finance the election of folks you don’t want to be in power, it still won’t slow the cost of campaigning or ‘clean up’ elections. You need votes to win elections and if some one drops by to deliver a certain number of votes in exchange for certain promises if you win, no money has changed hands but the stink is still there.
    Waiting for some one to look at the facts and admit they were wrong.
    Good luck with that. The top 2 in Cali was put in place to get rid of Rs in the general election and the new rules will certainly make sure of that. Along with the ‘winner take all’ in the Electoral College rule means Rs are being excluded from ‘democracy’. From the folks that scream about Rs disenfranchising voters. Total hypocrisy.
    Par for the course.

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  24. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    What do you think Scott-are you for personal tanks and tactical nukes. What limits do you think are appropriate? Should you be able to go to your local ammo store and pick up a six pack of grenades with a little tear gas on the side?

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  25. Don Bessee Avatar
    Don Bessee

    Oh man, let me wipe away a tear from laughing so much. That’s pure poor ol’ PE @ 542, no contribution just why, why, why? 😉

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  26. George Rebane Avatar
    George Rebane

    DonB 551pm – Now have a bit more decorum there Mr Bessee. Paul’s 542pm is the stock liberal repartee in trade, right off the same ol’ shelf where they have been kept for years. They cannot help it. We have to remember that only criminals and cops should have guns, it’s the progressive way.

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  27. Don Bessee Avatar
    Don Bessee

    Hey poor ol’ PE, do you know where I can get a neutron hand grenade? 😉

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  28. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    George do you have any contribution to the legitimate question as to whether the 2nd amendment has any limits as to the nature and size of “arms”.

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  29. Don Bessee Avatar
    Don Bessee

    Poor ol’ PE @ 610- Your why’s should end in a question mark there newsman. 😉

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  30. ScenesFromTheApocalypse Avatar
    ScenesFromTheApocalypse

    I wonder sometimes if there’s the equivalent of Godwin’s Law for the “why can’t you buy one of them nukeyallar bombs” strawman.
    Tanks are a different matter.
    http://www.milweb.net/classifieds.php?type=1
    http://www.armyjeeps.net/armor1.htm
    etc.

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  31. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    https://www.facebook.com/lastamericapatriots/photos/a.235087906641439.1073741826.235086849974878/802660379884186/?type=3&theater
    https://www.facebook.com/lastamericapatriots/photos/a.235087906641439.1073741826.235086849974878/802653253218232/?type=3&theater
    https://www.facebook.com/RowdyConservatives/photos/a.217983685002343.55586.217926015008110/1032640036870033/?type=3&theater

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  32. ScenesFromTheApocalypse Avatar
    ScenesFromTheApocalypse

    Well, it looks like the train is still speeding up.
    https://twitter.com/dcexaminer/status/834840794276179972

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  33. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    https://www.facebook.com/lastamericapatriots/photos/a.235087906641439.1073741826.235086849974878/802185013265056/?type=3&theater
    https://www.facebook.com/PatriotPost/photos/a.82108390913.80726.51560645913/10154479310135914/?type=3&theater

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  34. Scott Obermuller Avatar
    Scott Obermuller

    Poor Paul – completely unable to join in, but so wanting to.
    Maybe he can go back and read my post again and figure it out.
    I’m willing to give him a chance.
    Yes or no, Paul – yes or no. C’mon – you can dish it out.
    Oh – there he goes – off looking for a poll to give him some direction in life.

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  35. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    Scott
    Neighborhood tanks and tactical nukes or armed drones. OK under the 2nd amendment?

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  36. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    Hey Scott
    Guess what? we agree on something. I have the top 2 primary system. Absolutely wrong in every way. the history is interesting but no time to get into it now.

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  37. Don Bessee Avatar
    Don Bessee

    Look up PE, that’s my drone watching, too cool huh, my lips are sealed about its defensive capabilities. 😉

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  38. Walt Avatar
    Walt

    Shows what you know Paul. Private ownership of a tank isn’t illegal in most states. The same goes for automatic weapons. YES! baseballs that go BOOM! can be yours too! Just get the proper licencing. (and a crapton of money to by them.) But no worries. Ca. ain’t one of them.(I bet that makes your day) But you can take your nuke and shove it. That’s the most lameass excuse of a question then can be had.(But I’m sure you could do worse.)

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  39. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    What limits do you think asre appropriate Walt So far it’s Tanks yes, nukes no so it must be something in between.

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  40. Walt Avatar
    Walt

    Well,, Paul is back in TROLL mode. I don’t feed TROLLS after sundown.

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  41. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    Glad I live in California Walt. Sorry you have to deal with it. The deep blue on the horizon here in Nevada County is a bad weather report for you and your types

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  42. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    Once knew a guy who bought a tank in Reno, He did gun shows at the Casinos.. I think nukes might be over the top, but a good neutron bomb would kill the intruder without damaging the house.
    http://www.nationalreview.com/article/445149/maryland-assault-weapons-ban-fourth-circuit-court%20appeals-upholds-violates-second-amendment-constitution

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  43. Don Bessee Avatar
    Don Bessee

    Pretending its not a question by not having question marks is no cover for the poor ol’ poll head PE’s why, why, why affliction. @ 732. 😉

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  44. Don Bessee Avatar
    Don Bessee

    Ya gotta love the neutron bomb BT, but poor ol’ PE has yet to tell me if he has a connection for a neutron hand grenade. 😉

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  45. Scott Obermuller Avatar
    Scott Obermuller

    Gotta love poor ol Paul and his hopeless ramblings. Runs away from his own words on Milo’s treatment at Berkeley and then falsely casts himself as the victim.
    Sob – I didn’t get Milo fired from Breitbart, honest, don’t blame me!
    Please, Paul, get up off the floor and act like a adult.
    I pose some questions about a lunatic judge and Paul then tries to divert to hand grenades and tanks and nukes.
    I posed the question, Paul. If you can’t answer, then just admit you can’t because you either can’t find the right poll or you don’t know much about weapons or you just don’t do much beyond yipping and yapping.

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  46. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    Milo was fired by your sidekicks Scott not the Libs. They (UC Berkley) at least tried to give him a gig. Don do you ever actually have anything to say? Seems like there was a time you did but those days are fading away like Measure W, your masterpiece and legacy in Nevada County.

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  47. Scott M. Avatar
    Scott M.

    Don Bessee at 816 is a very funny post. Are you an alcoholic Don, or just a heavy drinker?

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  48. Don Bessee Avatar
    Don Bessee

    Poor ol’ PE does not seem to have read any of my observations on events, oh wait, read and not comprehend is a serious pollhead symptom. It could be his contract as a democratic partner aka fake news prevents him from responding to unapproved topics. No free style conversations only approved talking points. As far as having nothing to say, I know your grape vine says otherwise. 😉

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  49. Don Bessee Avatar
    Don Bessee

    Have you stopped burning your pets and beating your wife and kids SM @ 906? Looks like we are getting to the snowflakes. 😉

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  50. George Rebane Avatar
    George Rebane

    PaulE 610pm – It is hard to communicate with the memory impaired. My contribution was made here years ago. Read my piece on Par Force.
    http://rebaneruminations.typepad.com/rebanes_ruminations/2008/04/par-force-an-un.html
    http://rebaneruminations.typepad.com/rebanes_ruminations/2011/12/the-quiet-growth-of-government-guns-par-force-revisited.html

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