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[Many apologies for having closed the 12feb17 sandbox without opening a new one – I really did mean to do that instantly, but somehow it fell through the crack with all the other debates going on below my subsequent posts.  Mea culpa.  That said, all I ask is that if there's a recent topical post on a given subject/issue, then please enter your relevant comments into its comment stream.  Much grass.  gjr]

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335 responses to “Sandbox – 16feb17”

  1. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    @12:35 pm.
    I am hearing Brad’s lament more and more lately. “Why are you guys being mean to me. Enough already”.
    Ok, you don’t have to cry ‘Uncle’ (you would rather gnaw off your arm than say that) but are your saying to ease up? Shoot howdy, I thought you were here everyday for the duration to RESIST! Ok, we can ride under the flag of truce. Sooner or later the 24/7 demonstrating and carrying on would fizzle out anyway. It is a proven fact that one cannot run on a single emotion (like anger) more than 19 hours straight, or is it 19 days straight. Whatever, it’s a fact.
    . Never get tired of winning, but I will stop and let ya heal up. Then we can rough house again. Get well soon! Love ya my brother. Peace. Pass under the flag of truce.

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  2. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    12:35
    A
    Oh yeah. I never read that long crap. Make it shorter. Besides the Beatles sucked, unless you are into that teen heartthrob canned pop.

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  3. stevenfrisch Avatar
    stevenfrisch

    Posted by: George Rebane | 20 February 2017 at 10:26 AM
    Posted by: Todd Juvinall | 20 February 2017 at 10:59 AM
    Not my words boys, they were in quotation marks. They are the words of Donald J. Trump about another mans wife, Ghazala Khan.
    What a shame that you would afford your own spouses respect but so disrespect someone else’s while facing to recognize the hypocrisy of that.

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  4. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    Todd writes about my 10:11
    “Oh golly, maybe the stats are ten ten lower because America has 20 times more people? Rebane can school you PaulE on that.”
    Todd
    I know you have problems with simple math but if you only casually read my post you will see that the stats are per 100,000k population not a direct comparison of gun deaths. Hope that helps you ,

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  5. Todd Juvinall Avatar
    Todd Juvinall

    Frisch, using someone else words means you endorsed them. So you are a misogynist in the real sense.
    Paul Emery, Sweden is 20 times smaller than the USA which means there are way more chances to kill. And since we allow guns and they don’t I would say they are in much worse shape than us.

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  6. George Rebane Avatar

    stevenf 132pm – Nice try as usual. Anyone reading that immediately understands you did not choose and include that quote at random, but intended it to apply to your critique of my wife and her letter. The veil on this deception is gossamer thin, but whatever floats your boat. (Remembering that English is my third language, could you please translate your last sentence.)

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  7. Todd Juvinall Avatar
    Todd Juvinall

    And Frisch why did you leave out the fact you said those words were Trumps? Since you failed to that, they are now your words. What a hoot!

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  8. stevenfrisch Avatar
    stevenfrisch

    You are correct, that is a little garbled due to a misspelling.
    “What a shame that you would afford your own spouses respect but so disrespect someone else’s while failing to recognize the hypocrisy in that.”
    …and it was;t a “nice try” it was intended to trap, and it did. Trump can disrespect Ms. Kahn but the same words applied to your bride are an insult. Perhaps the words were an insult when first used by their originator.
    Todd, just for your edification, using someone else’s words is not an endorsement when they are in quotation marks….they are…well a quote.
    “Sweden is 20 times smaller than the USA which means there are way more chances to kill.” Is that the most nonsensical question ever?
    But you do make a cogent case for gun control with this sentence, “And since we allow guns and they don’t I would say they are in much worse shape than us.”

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  9. fish Avatar
    fish

    Posted by: BradC | 20 February 2017 at 12:35 PM
    Interesting, I made several comments today that were general in nature, and did not attack anyone here, yet have been derided by sockpuppet Fish and Don Bessee. Whatever, that is your right. It is just kind of sad that you have nothing to say, except to attack the person making the comments.

    Pro tip: Sockpuppetry is what REDACTED engages in. Where one posts under his real name…in this case REDACTED…..but then goes on to use fake names/accounts so as to seemingly bolster his arguments or make the numbers his look not so embarassingly small at REDACTED site. I post under a pseudonym/handle. A fairly common practice…..in any case REDACTED outed me long ago so if you’re curious and enjoy spending time in the company of the like minded over at REDACTED I’m sure he’ll be happy to tell you my real name.
    Lets see….
    Accusations of racism: Frisch, Keachie, Emery, Emery, REDACTED, Anderson
    Accusations of sexism: Frisch, Emery, Emery, REDACTED, Anderson
    Accusations of Stupidity/Questionable IQ: Frisch, Keachie, Emery, REDACTED, Anderson
    Accusations of xenophobia: Frisch, Emery, Emery, REDACTED, some moron posting as “jon” who really seemed to have a “thing” for Turkish men.
    Rooting through the criminal/tax records for dirt on those you don’t like politically/socially: REDACTED
    Overtly stating a desire for government/police forces to kill your political opposition: Anderson, Keachie
    Accusations of the need for and abuse of psychiatric/psychoactive drugs: Frisch, Anderson
    Accusations of Cyberbullying and general asshattery: REDACTED
    I know that you guys have your complaints as well but truth be told political snark is really a child of those on the left. So I guess Brad if you want to mix it up in a fairly free and open forum you should stick around and mix it up…sometimes it’s substantive and on topic most times it’s not.
    At least until George is completely sick of us.

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  10. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    Looks like U.C, Berkeley dodged a bullet when police shut down Milo Yiannopoulos’s scheduled talk at UC Berkeley. Now even CPAC rejects the Breitbart Editor ffom their conference. Sorry Bill and Walt I know he’s your favorite but it has been found out he’s kinda a creepy guy. He’s also acollegue and pal of Steve Bannon who hired him at Breitbart and is Trumps go to advisor
    “UPDATE: Feb. 20 โ€• Breitbart editor Milo Yiannopoulos has been disinvited from the annual Conservative Political Action Conference this week โ€œdue to the revelation of an offensive video in the past 24 hours condoning pedophilia,โ€ according to a statement CPAC released Monday.
    Over the weekend, a video surfaced online of the far-right agitator appearing to defend sexual relationships between adults and 13-year-old boys.
    American Conservative Union President Matt Schlapp urged Yiannopoulos to โ€œanswer the tough questionsโ€ and โ€œimmediately further address these disturbing comments.โ€
    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/yiannopoulos-cpac-conference_us_58a8efb7e4b07602ad556b57?

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  11. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    Todd
    Huh? you make no sense. Can anybody decipher this? George-help you are literate enough to translate,
    Todd writes:
    “Sweden is 20 times smaller than the USA which means there are way more chances to kill. And since we allow guns and they don’t I would say they are in much worse shape than us.”

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  12. Todd Juvinall Avatar
    Todd Juvinall

    stevenfrisch | 20 February 2017 at 02:09 PM
    You really are dense and it is sad. You yse quotes but fail to identify whose they were. So they are yours in the real world. And Khan and his wife were democrat tools and they attacked Trump for political points for Hillary. And Trump’s response was not unkind to her. But the press and you feckless liberals did you best to do that. And you failed as the people saw right through all your lies. Anyway, that episode is totally different than Ms. Rebane doing a letter to the Editor. As a self proclaimed smart guy you really are a dumbass.

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  13. Todd Juvinall Avatar
    Todd Juvinall

    Paule Emry, I have asked CPAC to reconsider the Milo rejection. But it is different than Berkely as the CPAC did not burn down their own house and beat anyone up. No moral equivalency at all.

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  14. George Rebane Avatar

    stevenf 209pm – have no idea about your “trap”. But your use of the quote was an insult, as most likely was its intended original use.

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  15. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    Todd
    Are you saying that in your view Milo should be allowed to speak and that you have lobbied CPAC to that end?

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  16. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    This is who Todd is lobbying for
    “Yiannopoulos was officially disinvited from the Conservative Political Action Conference on Monday after a video surfaced showing him defending sex with young children. He was originally tapped to give the keynote address at the annual conservative conference, despite previously advocating for gay men to โ€œget back in the closet,โ€ among other highly controversial public comments.
    In the video, Yiannopoulos argued some 13-year-old boys are old enough to consent to sexual relationships with adults and insisted adults who have sex with 13-year-olds are not pedophiles.”
    Yiannopoulos is Breitbart senior editor
    http://www.rawstory.com/2017/02/its-still-vile-milo-offers-tepid-apology-for-pedophile-tape-but-jake-tapper-isnt-buying-it/

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  17. stevenfrisch Avatar
    stevenfrisch

    Posted by: George Rebane | 20 February 2017 at 02:19 PM
    Yes, and insult to you, not your wife.

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  18. George Rebane Avatar

    stevenf 244pm – Fortunately, I am not bright enough to follow that logic. Nevertheless, I hope you took comfort in your achievement, else it would have been a complete waste.

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  19. Don Bessee Avatar
    Don Bessee

    Uh oh PE @ 233, they are warming up the vans in SF right now and will be heading your way soon to protest and take away your democrat media card. Those NAMBLA boys are going to bring their grizzly bears to protest poor ol’ Paul Emery. ๐Ÿ˜‰

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  20. Todd Juvinall Avatar
    Todd Juvinall

    Here is Milo
    s rejection of child abuse.
    https://www.facebook.com/myiannopoulos/posts/851826321621931

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  21. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    Todds guy Milo writes ” But I understand that my usual blend of British sarcasm, provocation and gallows humor might have come across as flippancy, a lack of care for other victims or, worse, “advocacy.”
    Pretty weak apology Todd. You certainly wouldn’t cut Hillary the same slack when she uttered the deplorable “deplorables” only to retract it as a mistake. If you want to sleep in the MIlo bandwagon you have to accept the whole package of his eccentric beliefs such as “Abraham Lincoln was almost certainly at least bisexual.”
    That’s apart of Milo’s credo which you can read and sign onto by reading this which he does not retract:
    http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/06/17/gay-rights-have-made-us-dumber-its-time-to-get-back-in-the-closet/

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  22. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    Another crack in the cathedral
    “In a rare bit of message contradiction within the ranks, Donald Trumpโ€™s first campaign manager, Corey Lewandowski, conceded there was no evidence for the presidentโ€™s claim that Massachusetts Democrats were brought into New Hampshire by bus on Election Day to steal the state for Hillary Clinton.
    โ€œI live on the border,โ€Lewandowski said in an interview with the podcast Axe Files, posted on Monday. โ€œI didnโ€™t see buses coming across the line to say that, hey, weโ€™ve moved up from Massachusetts.”
    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/trump-voter-fraud-corey-lewandowski_us_58ab2331e4b07602ad56d2f4?

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  23. Don Bessee Avatar
    Don Bessee

    Looks like PE does not know many gay people. Milo is European, the ages of consent can be very low by our standards in Europe. In addition there is a lot of chatter about age of consent in the gay community in the US, especially in light of the whole trans gender thing and schools. Not saying I agree with all of that but it is the conversation going on in that community. You gay bashing ol’ poll head PE. ๐Ÿ˜‰

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  24. fish Avatar
    fish

    Oh shit….the religion of peace is at it again in Sweden!

    Meanwhile, Rioting Breaks Out In Sweden

    Looks like it’s time for more gun control in the United States!
    http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-02-20/meanwhile-rioting-breaks-out-sweden

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  25. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    Oh no, not Milo! Well, politics is a blood sport. He is not a conservative in the usual sense of the word, so the CPAC nix does not surprise me. We still love our Dangerous Faggot because A) we Irredeemables are a forgiving open minded lot, and B) Milo is sooooo fabulous and going straight after Political Correctness in the heart of the terrorists’ home turf. Priceless. Milo is irreplaceable.

    Ben Shapiro is really conservative, but he is no Milo and has no sense of humor. Maybe we can get Dweezil Zappa to do the opening act.

    Scenes:
    http://100percentfedup.com/white-house-leaker-reportedly-a-nevertrumper-top-aide-for-reince-preibus/
    https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=201522260325371&set=p.201522260325371&type=3&theater
    https://www.facebook.com/RowdyConservatives/photos/a.217983685002343.55586.217926015008110/1031373173663386/?type=3&theater

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  26. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    Thanks for clarifying your support of Milo Don. It’s okay because it’s the European thing. Good credentials for the Editor of Trumps favorite media Breitbart and, by the way, someone who was hired by Steve Bannon, Trumps right hand man. It’s just one happy family right Don.

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  27. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    More bad news for your guy Todd
    “A representative from Simon & Schuster announced over Twitter that the publishing house is canceling the publication of Milo Yiannopoulosโ€™ upcoming book Dangerous, following controversy over a surfaced video in which Yiannopoulos appears to defend pedophilia.
    Yiannopoulos confirmed the news on Facebook.
    The announcement comes just after the Breitbart editor and alt-right poster boy was disinvited from the Conservative Political Action Conference, a conference held next week that is set to feature speakers including Vice President Mike Pence and Trump adviser Steve Bannon. ”
    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/milo-yiannopoulos-book_us_58ab6c35e4b0f077b3ed221c?

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  28. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    I know I’m piling it on BUT— Trump has lost 8% since last week in the only poll that supports him, Rasmussen. Gonna get kinda lonely at the top.
    http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/trump_administration/trump_approval_index_history

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  29. fish Avatar
    fish

    Posted by: Paul Emery | 20 February 2017 at 04:36 PM
    …….still president Paul.

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  30. Walt Avatar

    Take a break Paul from your meaningless poll BS. It’s time you help clean up after some of your friends.
    http://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/story/34546395/deadline-looms-for-dakota-access-pipeline-protest-camp
    So much for “friends of the river”…””One of the biggest environmental threats to the Missouri is the camp itself”
    As usual, others have to clean up after the ECO idiot’s mess.
    So get your heard together, including that elected ECO nut from N.C. who made a big deal about “helping”. Now she can “help” clean up the mess.

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  31. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    Just offering you my daily updates for your reading pleasure. Glad to be of service.

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  32. Don Bessee Avatar
    Don Bessee

    That’s a good poll head PE, get back to comfort zone of what you know and love. Its not my fault you are out of touch with the gay community PE. Let me know what those NAMBLA guys say when they get there. ๐Ÿ˜‰

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  33. Walt Avatar

    With Paul around, there is no shortage of digital toilet paper.

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  34. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    I didn’t know Don you were so closely involved with the Gay Community Don. You learn something new every day.

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  35. Don Bessee Avatar
    Don Bessee

    There are whole lot of things you don’t know you ol’ poll head PE. ๐Ÿ˜‰

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  36. Todd Juvinall Avatar
    Todd Juvinall

    Paul Emry I cannot seem to find a poll of [erformance of Hillary Clinton, Bernie Sanders or Gary Johnson. Can you?
    Trump though is the President. What a hoot!

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  37. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    Yes he is Todd and he is being polled daily. Whats the point in what you’re saying??

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  38. Robert Cross Avatar
    Robert Cross

    Todd’s point is “na na na my guy sort of won” and that makes me a winner too.. despite reality.

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  39. Scott Obermuller Avatar

    Oh boy – Milo ‘appears’ to condone pedophilia. Except he said he doesn’t and he says he deplores it. But the piling on starts. Paul is now using this after the fact bit of news to cover for his fascist attitude about free speech. The left wing hypocrisy never stops. They support Clinton who is a rapist according to his own wife, Hilary, who also happens to support Bill’s habits. And then there’s the time Bill ditched the secret service to fly into Lolita Island to spend some time doing – well, what ever goes on there. And Roman Polansky is the left’s lil darling. In fact, they claim he’s a victim.
    So – actual rape and pedophilia are oakie dokie as long as it’s the left’s own, but if you are conservative, they go after you if you are a bit stupid with the wording in some of your public opinions.
    Anything to keep from having an actual debate or adult conversation. The left runs scared every time.

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  40. Don Bessee Avatar
    Don Bessee

    My guy sort of won.’ Just come from a not my president, Presidents day protest BC? He won and that’s the fact of the matter. McMasters as NSA is great. The best living tanker who tells truth to power. Once the DOD gets the spares shelf’s filled and catches up on deferred maintenance, our battle hardened warriors and REAL military leaders will give great pause to the mullas and commies. Peace through Strength baby! ๐Ÿ˜‰

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  41. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    Polansky Scott? How creative that you dusted that off. How old is that story? 40 years ago. Amazing.

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  42. Don Bessee Avatar
    Don Bessee

    WOW, @ 626, that is very bad for a democrat media partner PE, how can you be so ignorant of current events in the news? It was just a couple of days ago that the story ran about Polansky petitioning to come back and deal with the rape conviction. Dementia like David Cassidy is a popular excuse today ya ol’ poll head PE. ๐Ÿ˜‰

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  43. Todd Juvinall Avatar
    Todd Juvinall

    Milo says he is not a ;pedo and was abused as a kid. Libs usually have rallies to support those unjustly accused or misunderstood. Yet not when it is a conservative. Paul Emery, I am ashamed of you and your narrow mind. Milo should be believed, just like you said all women who claim abuse should be believed.
    Cross, yes, I am reveling in my President’s victory and your loss. It feels great!

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  44. Scott Obermuller Avatar

    Total comedy – from Paul the dancing poodle: “Polansky Scott? How creative that you dusted that off. How old is that story? 40 years ago. Amazing.”
    Not so. It was just in the news last week. And the ongoing support for him from the left has been ongoing. As I said – anything to keep from having a debate or an adult conversation.
    We note that Paul will not defend his comments from just a while ago, nor counter my many points.
    Run and yap, little poodle.

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  45. Don Bessee Avatar
    Don Bessee

    Ya, who knew how intolerant the Nevada city news man was in reality. Poor ol’ PE has been immersed in the tool of the democrats news man thing so long that he has adopted their intolerance. Run to the polls PE, let go of that Nevada city hate! Come on ya old poll head, go back to being funny, please, it would be better for your health. ๐Ÿ˜‰

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  46. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    Polanski? This was an event that happened 40 years ago. I am not a defense attorney for every lefty cause you bring up. I am a Green Libertarian that believes we have as much government as we deserve. You’re wasting your time trying to goad me into that fight.
    I would love to talk about problems and solutions. For example what can be done to lower gun related deaths and still preserve the 2nd amendment. Any takers?

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  47. Don Bessee Avatar
    Don Bessee

    Why is Emery so homophobic and xenophobic? What did the dangerous European faggot do to him? Never thought I would see the day, come on my friend, you are better than this. Come to the light, it will set you free. ๐Ÿ˜‰

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  48. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    Sorry Don I don’t have the impulse to defend someone who tries to justify sex with a 13 yer old. Got to remind you Don that you are defending a man who is recorded as saying some “13-year-old boys are old enough to consent to sexual relationships with adults and insisted adults who have sex with 13-year-olds are not pedophiles.”

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  49. Don Bessee Avatar
    Don Bessee

    Now PE @ 711, you made the democrat tool choice to ridicule people about the rapists case trailing for years; thus displaying your ignorance. You went after a gay man about protecting gay youth and now you are in PC trouble. What can I say, you picked the wrong things to mess with. Did the south of market boys get there yet? Rainbow protests at KVMR coming soon, I GOTTA have a picture of that! ๐Ÿ˜‰

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