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George Rebane

Americans have always been told to keep their powder dry; well, the Democrats want you to let government take over that job.

Systemic unemployment, in conjunction with the Singularity a much discussed issue on these pages over the years, is now beginning to draw the attention of more and more analysts, commentators, and media outlets.  A reader and correspondent picked up this piece from PJ Media that acknowledges (here) that the disappearing jobs (even for the middle class) will not be replaced by new jobs to re-employ the growing cohort of the permanently redundant.

[update]  Mr George Boardman, our intrepid columnist in The Union, today echoes (here) the liberal line that longtime school choice advocate and now SecEd Betsy DeVos is “unqualified” for her new job; so unqualified in fact that progressive punks physically denied her access to a school she was scheduled to visit.  But the real question for Mr Boardman is ‘If DeVos is an unqualified SecEd, what did all her qualified predecessors accomplish for America’s public education during the preceding decades?’  Take your time.

[14feb17 update]  A passing note on retired Gen Flynn’s resignation.  He did the right thing to resign.  And he did the right thing to talk to his Russian contacts as a member of the duly elected incoming president’s team – such a conversation was neither a first in our history nor a violation of the Logan Act.  And he was unbelievably foolish to lie to VP Pence about the affair; it was for that that he had to go.

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184 responses to “Ruminations – 13feb17 (updated 14feb17)”

  1. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    All quiet on the Western Front.
    https://patriotpost.us/posts/47467
    Lol.

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  2. Todd Juvinall Avatar
    Todd Juvinall

    Trump rising now up six.
    RL Crabb is doing the old NAZI gig on Miller from Trump’s staff. I went to the link Crabb used to justify this outrage and could not find anything in the compilation that would warrant a NAZI comparison. The Crabb is unhinged.

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  3. Robert Cross Avatar
    Robert Cross

    Liar liar pants on fire… Trump is the biggest liar of them all. One after the other after the other. Don’t you know that he would have won the popular election if not for voter fraud.. LIE — They never had contact with the russians during the campaign LIE..
    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/trump-campaign-russia_us_58a3ca36e4b03df370dba994?ncid=inblnkushpmg00000009
    Where does it end? The greater problem is how many lame brains actually believe and support the such a liar. Compulsive lying is a psychiatric personality disorder. Is this who you really want in charge, a chronic liar?
    And what about McClintock.. another liar —
    http://www.sacbee.com/news/local/news-columns-blogs/marcos-breton/article132765444.html
    The righties just make stuff up and call it alternative facts, when actually it’s all a bunch of lies.. The sad part is that you all believe it to be true, or do you just double down on the lies to save face over how gullible you are? How do you sleep at night knowing Trump and his people are scamming the country. Is WW III next? Let’s see where is a bunch of oil.. oh yeah the middle east.. let’s ban Muslims and then start a war and take their oil.. the sequel.
    A bunch of billionaires are going to save our country from the problems they themselves created.. go figure and hold on to your wallets all you little people who thought you were going to be saved.

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  4. fish Avatar
    fish

    Posted by: Robert Cross | 15 February 2017 at 10:30 AM
    Is this who you really want in charge, a chronic liar?

    Yeah…good point Bobby…..Hillary Clinton was well known and widely respected for her dedication to the truth.

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  5. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    Liar in chief
    Trump is on record numerous times denying his campaign had any contact with the Russians Well it appears that’s just not true
    George at one time you told me if there was evidence that Trump and his campaign cooperated with the Russians in the coordination of campaign material Trump should resign or Be impeached. Do you still believe that ?

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  6. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    Watching Fox news blast trunk This man has no friends sept for a couple of people on this blog

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  7. Gregory Avatar
    Gregory

    Let’s revisit someone who is rich, gay, and past and current FOB:
    Here’s the NPR Fresh Air interview that left wing self styled lovers of freedom should be happy with:
    http://www.npr.org/2017/02/01/512851970/if-confirmed-would-neil-gorsuch-rule-contrary-to-trumps-policies
    Confirmed, it appears he would be the most libertarian Justice on our high court in my lifetime.

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  8. Gregory Avatar
    Gregory

    Damn, my David Geffen quote didn’t take… my apologies
    “Everybody in politics lies, but they [the Clintons] do it with such ease, it’s troubling”.

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  9. Gregory Avatar
    Gregory

    Paul 1158
    Paul, are you once again relying on anonymous sources of classified information, illegally shared only with journalists known to be hostile to Trump specifically and the GOP in general?
    There’s a reason for the usual oath taken by a witness to tell the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth, under threat of prosecution for perjury, not to mention your mom sending you to bed without supper.

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  10. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    No Gregory For sure virtuosity of lying nobody tops Trump Liar in chief

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  11. Gregory Avatar
    Gregory

    Punchy 1227
    A lie is a false statement represented to be true; meaning you have to establish the facts, determine their point of view, their understanding of the facts and their state of mind at the time of the suspected lie.
    That’s often very hard to do to legal standards (Pacifica Radio has double standards you might agree with). Most “Progressives” have a hard time distinguishing lies from errors, or their delusions, as the case may be.

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  12. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    Gregory
    Fox news is all over it. Is Fox news also part of the hostile news media trying to bring Trump down?
    How about Deep Throat, was that illegitimate information about Nixon and should it have been rejected by the press?

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  13. George Rebane Avatar

    PaulE 1158am – Am not sure what you are attributing to me, especially since I don’t know what “coordinating campaign material” means and would never have made such an ambiguous statement. You know me better than that.
    But if any successful presidential candidate did/does use a foreign nation to illegally promote his candidacy, I would support his removal from office. We know that foreign leaders and officials have long given their opinions pro/con on other countries’ candidates, so I wouldn’t waste any hot air claiming that such endorsements are grounds for hyperventilation. Now comes the question – where is the threshold of illegality and who defines it. Chuck Schumer in Washington and you on RR don’t qualify.

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  14. Todd Juvinall Avatar
    Todd Juvinall

    No Paul Emery, I already debunked your NYT links and their “story” about Trump’s people. Keep trying though you are too funny!

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  15. ScenesFromTheApocalypse Avatar
    ScenesFromTheApocalypse

    re:12:45PM
    This is the only Fox article on their (all over it) webpage.
    http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/02/15/trump-reportedly-kept-pence-in-dark-about-flynns-russian-phone-calls.html
    So, as I understand it, the whole kerfuffle is that a Trump factotum, a few weeks before the inauguration of a new President, talked with a Russian diplomat about some potential policy matters. The inauguration occurs, and then a week later Trump found out that the underling talked with the Russians a few weeks before the swearing-in. Maybe I’m missing something here. It all seems so unimportant (and commonplace) that I suppose I’m missing the main point. If the whole thing is just about the ‘Logan Act’ (never charged, probably unconstitutional, regularly violated), then it all strikes me as pure political posturing.

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  16. George Rebane Avatar

    scenes 1253pm – Agreed.

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  17. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    George
    Here is a Pense quote on campaign contact with the Russians. There are many more. Should Trump be held responsible for the quotes of his VP? :
    On January 15, then-Vice President-elect Mike Pence went on Fox News and was asked by Chris Wallace whether there had been communication between the Trump campaign and Russian officials before the election.
    “Of course not,” Pence replied. “Chris, this is all a distraction and it’s all part of a narrative to delegitimize the election and question the legitimacy of this presidency. The American people see right through it.”

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  18. ScenesFromTheApocalypse Avatar
    ScenesFromTheApocalypse

    from the ‘all over it’ Fox News.
    “President Trump was reportedly told six days into his presidency that his former national security adviser Michael Flynn misled the vice president about his phone calls with Russia, but did not tell his second-in-command.”
    Seems pretty clear to me. I do agree on Pence’s ‘all a distraction’ quote. This is 100% politics and about 0% reality.
    I keep wondering when the real arguments about policy will actually break out, this all reminds of the stupidity of the Obama birth certificate outrage. Both sides can froth about non-issues evidently.

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  19. Don Bessee Avatar
    Don Bessee

    In spite of the screaming snowflake class (that’s you PE) the world moves forward and the DOW is still going up significantly. It closed over 20,600 which is a reflection of people betting their money on a positive future for the US economy, its the economy stupid I have heard said. 😉

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  20. fish Avatar
    fish

    From Instapundit:
    Hahahahahahahahahahahahahah! Fascism not what you think it means…….

    WEIRD THAT THE DEMOCRATS KEEP SCREAMING “FASCISM,” BUT THE NOMINEES THEY FOUGHT HARDEST AGAINST ARE THE MOST LIBERTARIAN: Labor nominee Puzder calls it quits.

    http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/labor-nominee-puzder-drops-out/article/2614920

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  21. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    George
    Mostly on he afternoon news program with Sheppard Smith.
    Would Flynn be out of line if he talked policy with Russian intelligence before the campaign without instructions from Trump? For sure exact details of the conversation will eventually come out.
    If Trumps campaign was in consort with Russian intelligence that would make Trump a prime candidate for blackmail.
    Here’s Smiths Fox report
    “Fox News host Shep Smith harshly criticized President Donald Trump for hanging on to National Security Adviser Michael Flynn long after he became aware that Flynn had lied to Vice President Mike Pence.
    Flynn tendered his resignation late Monday night, hours after the Washington Post reported that the former acting Attorney General Sally Yates said Flynn was a security risk due to blackmail concerns.
    Addressing the fall-out, Smith told guest Andrew Napolitano that Trump appeared to dismiss the concerns until the media dug into the story and busted Flynn.
    “They want this to be about trust, ” Smith explained. “When you find out he lied to the president of the United States, that’s where rubber meets the road. It does not meet the road when the Washington Post, the New York Times and the Wall Street Journal all make it a front page story above the fold.
    “Because, in this case, that’s what it took,” Smith continued. “It did not take the president, it took the headlines.”

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  22. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    So sad. They put all their eggs in one basket. They can’t prove Trump campaign collusion with the Putin. Collusion. They can’t prove collusion and they can’t prove Moscow had any influence on the outcome of the election. So, we are now at the buzz word ‘coordinated.’ Too easy, too transparent.
    I figure there is a reason the full transcripts of the US tapping the Russian Ambassador’s phone and caputuring Flynn’s plotting with the Rooskies had not been made public. Considering the 2016 NSA is chock full of Obama’s operatives and are alive and well to this very day, you can bet your sweet petunias that it would have been released by now. No there there.
    This is just a continuation of the recount and begging the electoral college voters to stop Trump. Once Trump gets settled in the office and starts rolling out his policies, the Left is doomed. Full frontal assualt to stop Trump now! Now or never. Yawn.
    Well, give them an E for effort. Bless their little hearts. Boy, the shadow government really really wants conflict with the Rooskies. They are obsessed with it. Well, the shadow Obama government filled with Islamophiles really hate Flynn. He said the JV team is alive and well, directly contracting Barry’s Sugar Frosted O’s. Here is my Obama and the NSA went after Flynn.
    http://dailycaller.com/2016/07/12/bombshell-obama-never-once-met-with-his-defense-intelligence-chief/
    http://www.infowars.com/intelligence-head-obama-didnt-want-to-hear-about-rise-of-isis/
    Heard Trump ‘s meeting with smaller business leaders this morning went off great. Making America Great Again.
    Yo Bedwetters, try going out there and win an election. That is what needs to be done. Ah, screw the ballot box, right? ROFLMAO

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  23. Don Bessee Avatar
    Don Bessee

    I am SHOCKED, SHOCKED that shep is still a Trump hater. 😉

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  24. Robert Cross Avatar
    Robert Cross

    Fishie 10:43– good one fishie — Is that all you have? The only problem with your stock in trade “hillary is a liar too” response is the, in case you missed it, trump is the person in the white house not hillary. trump is the liar in chief.. hillary is old news and most likely all the the alleged hillary lies, given how the righties do business, were alternate facts anyway.

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  25. Don Bessee Avatar
    Don Bessee

    Why so cross Robert? Someone invade your safe space snowflake? I hear there is room at Hillary Hodges. 😉

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  26. Gregory Avatar
    Gregory

    Paul, you’re about 10exp2 answers in arrears, try answering a few first?https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argument
    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argument
    Give it a try.

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  27. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    Now they will go after Vice Admiral Robert Harward. That man liked the Shah of Iran, an unforgivable offense. Trump has surrounded himself with those who know the real threat.
    This is Trump’s War against the Deep State. The Democratic Party is currently impotent and a joke, so it is the Obama Deep State teaming up with the media to fight on. Add a couple of bend over and take it Neo-Cons and Chucky Boy, and the picture grows clearer. Boy, they sure went ape when Trump said Pocahontas was the face of the Democrat Party, but I digress.
    The Deep State NSA forgets that we don’t work for them, they work for the people. At least in theory. Bust their “America is Bad” chops, President Trump. Then stand on their cowardly throats. Beautiful day today, despite been another painfully slow news day. Oh well.

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  28. George Rebane Avatar

    re RobertC 135pm – Not judging the merits of bringing up Hillary’s notorious history of lying, but I do find it strange that liberals now talk about the past iniquities of their brethren and cistern(sic) as simply bygones to be ignored. These pages contain the entire record of the Obama years during which our leftwing friends could not shake themselves from ruing every word out Bush2’s mouth as excuses for the lies of Team Obama. A little symmetry would be refreshing.
    On another topic – I have to reach for the barf bag every time one of the media heads or politicians castigates Trump for pushing back against the Deep State’s intelligence apparatus, characterizing his words as impugning the very people “who are out there putting their lives on the line for us.” Trump has done no such thing – he has said nothing against the people in the field, a different breed, who do risk everything to gather this country’s intelligence.
    But he has taken to task the turkeys (i.e. ‘intelligence analysts’ like Snowden) who work in cloistered offices, answer to no one who is known or elected, and go home to a warm safe bed every night. It is these faceless people whose work and leaks support the agenda of the Deep State, and who may be violating every security law on the books to no one being the wiser. Where are the FISA warrants that allowed ANYONE to listen in to Flynn’s (and now Team Trump’s) communications?

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  29. fish Avatar
    fish

    Posted by: Robert Cross | 15 February 2017 at 01:35 PM
    Bobby…..presumably you’re a democrat…..one who willingly pulled the lever for Hillary so it’s a little late to be whining about “politicians who don’t tell the truth” at this juncture.
    Next time nominate a better candidate and we won’t have to suffer the Tangerine Tornado in the White House.

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  30. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    Chucky sez they have six days to Sunday to get back at you. Breaking news! Chucky spoke the Truth…..finally.
    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=J-VsfGHO5Mk

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  31. Robert Cross Avatar
    Robert Cross

    Who gives a crap George? The past is just that, the past; water under the bridge, over and out. Do you really think bringing up supposed lies of the past justifies trump, the psychotic liar and his team of corporate goons, lying to the country again and again about almost every subject imaginable? Your “they lied too” rebuttal is fallacious and does not condone the current situation.
    “These pages contain the entire record ” of your interpretation of events spoon fed to the ideologically impaired by the right wing noise machine’s bureau of alternate facts. It should be obvious by now, given how bad trump and co. are at lying, that the far right’s entire rationale for their policies is based on alternate facts created ex post facto to cover their asses.

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  32. BradC Avatar
    BradC

    Uh oh, the fast food king is bailing out of the Good Ship Trump – “Trump Labor Nominee Andrew Puzder Withdraws, First Cabinet Pick To Fall”.

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  33. fish Avatar
    fish

    From Marmadukes site….
    Dan Skeahan says:
    February 15, 2017 at 11:38 am
    Interesting that rabid Rebane, and all his pals are silent about the latest transgressions of Cheeto and all his pals.

    Somebody correct me if I’m wrong but the conversation surrounding the Flynn Affair has been going nearly non-stop since the news broke.
    Apparently another sock puppet with reading comprehension issues!
    (SHOCKED FACE ON!)

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  34. ScenesFromTheApocalypse Avatar
    ScenesFromTheApocalypse

    BT 1:51PM
    …”Trump has surrounded himself with those who know the real threat.
    This is Trump’s War against the Deep State…..”
    Seriously, that isn’t a bad way to frame the current situation.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JWRVyaKnGcA

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  35. fish Avatar
    fish

    Who gives a crap George? The past is just that, the past; water under the bridge, over and out. Do you really think bringing up supposed lies of the past justifies trump, the psychotic liar and his team of corporate goons, lying to the country again and again about almost every subject imaginable? Your “they lied too” rebuttal is fallacious and does not condone the current situation.
    “These pages contain the entire record ” of your interpretation of events spoon fed to the ideologically impaired by the right wing noise machine’s bureau of alternate facts. It should be obvious by now, given how bad trump and co. are at lying, that the far right’s entire rationale for their policies is based on alternate facts created ex post facto to cover their asses.

    Wow…..verbatim from the DNC marketing materials!
    Hat tip!

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  36. Don Bessee Avatar
    Don Bessee

    Yes indeed, bobby is perpetually cross. So now Mia Farrow is saying she wont pay her federal taxes because of President Trump. She is encouraging others to not pay their taxes….. wait a second now, Mia Farrow is a has been who does not work. She has no income so she pays no taxes. What a waste of oxygen. 😉

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  37. George Rebane Avatar

    RobertC 220pm – I’m sorry to say you understood NONE of my 154pm – a condition I’m sad to report is endemic among you and yours. (I understand from other readers here that Exhibit A of this assertion is available at FUE’s where NO ONE has detected my posts and the hundreds of comments covering the Flynn et al affair here. They hang on every word in RR and yet comprehend nothing.)
    Had you understood, then it would have been clear that it was the leftwing readers and commenters who very much gave a “crap” about the past during Obama’s years. I never brought up the “they lied too” argument, that was your fabrication.
    And the referenced “entire record” of the Obama years was not my “interpretation of events spoon fed to the ideologically impaired”, but instead the interpretations of the leftwing contributors in these comment streams.
    I had no idea that the first paragraph of my 154pm was such a challenge, and do apologize that I was not able to say it well enough for you to understand.

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  38. Don Bessee Avatar
    Don Bessee

    Dr. R @ 231- There seems to be an epidemic of reading and not comprehending among team lefty. Willful? I will leave that up to the readers but you know we will get more talking points for lefties in reply, appropriate or not. 😉

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  39. BradC Avatar
    BradC

    More Rooskie connections and reasons for Trump to like them? XL pipeline steel produced by Canadian company with ties to Russia,
    “One of President Donald Trump’s first actions in office was to sign an executive order on January 24 expediting the approval of the Keystone XL. Owned by TransCanada, this tar sands oil pipeline was halted by former President Barack Obama in November 2015. Trump signed another order on January 24, calling for steel for U.S. pipelines to be made in the U.S. to the “maximum extent possible,” and two days later TransCanada filed a new presidential permit application for Keystone XL with the U.S. Department of State.
    Critics, such as John Kemp of Reuters, pounced on the caveat language in Trump’s steel order and noted that it appears “designed to preserve lots of wiggle-room.” In fact, a DeSmog investigation reveals that much of the steel for Keystone XL has already been manufactured and is sitting in a field in rural North Dakota.
    DeSmog has uncovered that 40 percent of the steel created so far was manufactured in Canada by a subsidiary of Evraz, a company partly owned by Russian oligarch Roman Abramovich, who is a close ally of Putin and a Trump family friend. Evraz has also actively lobbied against provisions which would mandate that Keystone XL’s steel be made in the U.S.”

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  40. Don Bessee Avatar
    Don Bessee

    So the already manufactured pipe is in storage, what’s your point? 😉

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  41. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    George
    Flynn was only the presumed Security chief at the time of his now infamous phone calls to the Russian Ambassador. Why shouldn’t the transcript of his conversation be released? Trump can straighten the whole thing out by demanding it be released. Why do you think he he doesn’t do that? Do you think he had Trumps ok to make that call and say whatever he said?

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  42. Don Bessee Avatar
    Don Bessee

    Poor ol’ PE, never any answers just a chain of why, why, why. See Gregory @ 142. 😉

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  43. George Rebane Avatar

    PaulE 248pm – Who’s saying the transcript should be withheld? Paul, a suggestion, offered once again, in friendship, and sincerely – why don’t you just once pair an answer from you to ANYONE’S previous question with a new question that you ask. That would still leave you woefully behind, but it’s a start. We really are interested also in your opinions.

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  44. ScenesFromTheApocalypse Avatar
  45. uote is happening Avatar
    uote is happening

    Then George lets urge Trump to release the transcript. It will prove there is nothing to hide and Fynn’s encounter with the Ruskies was nothing more than a little chit chat.

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  46. uote is happening Avatar
    uote is happening

    Don ok
    Ask me three questions and I’ll get back to you.

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  47. Don Bessee Avatar
    Don Bessee

    So vote is PE? Interesting. 😉

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