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Sandbox – 20jan17

20 January 2017

[President Trump made the most populist and unambiguous pro-America inauguration speech in history today. In many ways it was an 'in your face' indictment of his predecessor. Now it is time to deliver. Godspeed to our new President! gjr]

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382 responses to “Sandbox – 20jan17”

stevenfrisch

21 January 2017

Well Todd, you got me there, because I know you know all about old divorced ex-wives with and axe to grind with their ex-husbands.

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Todd Juvinall

21 January 2017

Yes I do. But you better cling to your spouse as you would be unable to score at that rally. LOL!

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Todd Juvinall

21 January 2017

Oh and the gals at the rally are wearing what they are calling “pussyhats” in response to Trump. Now we really see what these women think of themselves don’t we?

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Gregory

21 January 2017

Golly, BradC, I don’t think Bush planned on 9/11 though the front runner for DNC chair seems to disagree with that.
Can we agree to blame Obama for Obamacare, the only President to not see 3% growth in a recovery despite $9T of deficit spending and $4T of QE money for nothing, or is that Bush’s fault, too?

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George Rebane

21 January 2017

Administrivia – As this blog’s Chief Ruminator it is my great pleasure and distinct honor to bestow upon Mr Paul Emery the well-earned and volubly-demonstrated mantle of ‘Trump Trasher’. He adds this honorarium to his already acknowledged and longstanding honoraria as our most persistent ‘Bush Basher’ and foremost ‘Leftwing Libertarian’ who has labored diligently to demonstrate that all ideas and interpretations to the right of Bernie and Liz are folly, futile, and foul.

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Bill Tozer

21 January 2017

Of course Trump’s crowds are smaller. Of course the polls say Trump is in the crapper, duh. Geeze, where have you guys been?
This is how I see it. We on the right are afraid. We know better than to put a Trump bumper sticker on our cars. Getting the car keyed is the least of our worries. In today’s world, it is dangerous to be an openly Trump supporter. We don’t want to get beat up. We are not welcome in many venues and afraid to “come out of the closet”.
Reminds me of all the articles and talk about the Nazis I have seen and read over the last 6 months. I do see a correlation.
We Trump supporters have to look around before venturing out. If we get together with another Trump supporter, we have to whisper and talk in code and meet in secret. It is like we are the Jews in Nazi Germany and Poland now, confined to areas away from the others. We have to keep our heads down at work and hide our dirty secret that we support Trump. We have to lie to our co-workers, our families, our neighbors to avoid conformations. When we go out to dinner, we hope nobody recognizes us as as possible Trump sympathizers.
We live in constant fear. We have been pulled from sitting on our lounge chairs in our front yards and beaten. Our elderly are pushed to the ground and brutally kicked. Our women have been spat upon and egged. Our children have been sent home from school and expelled if they write the word “Trump” on a sheet of paper. The police are often called to investigate this as a hate crime that our children committed and we are called down to the principle’s office and are treated with the foul air of suspicion and unveiled contempt. CPS knocks on our doors to inspect our homes as a follow up.
We are bad parents, bad neighbors, bad co-workers and bad citizens. We must hide our dirty secret least we be found out. There are no Safe Places for those support Trump. We have to speak very carefully and say half truths like “I did not endorse Trump, but I voted for the lesser of two evils…but I really don’t agree with him or like him. Really!”
And now the Nazis want to know who we are. Obelin College’s student body was beyond distraught when Trump won. Later it was revealed that the college students voted 4,500+ for Hillary, 400+ for Trump. The student councils wants to find who those 400 voters are.
An editorial to the Union immediately after the election echoed the same distraught and witch hunt. Who among our neighbors, our co-workers, our community voted for Trump? The idea that such people are living among “us” has been exposed by the election. “We will deal with them later” to steal a phrase.
We Trump enthusiastic voters have to temper our enthusiasm in case there are witnesses. We have to be very careful. It is dangerous to our health and livelihoods out there. Our biggest fear is to be found out and suffer the consequences, be it physical harm or the mental anguish suffered due to the barrage of insults and anger directed at us. We dare not say a kind thing about Trump on social media. Being unfriended on Facebook is a blessing in disguise because being unfriended by long time “friends” is not nearly as bad as the threats to our persons, children, our humble abodes.
We feel like Jews living under the growing Nazi state now and wait for the day when we have to wear the yellow armbands so the majority can identify us. We live in fear and hiding as the Nazis roam the streets looking for us. We retire early at night now and pull the drapes tight. We set up fake accounts with fake names if we want to find kindred brethren on social media….but question deep within our beings if we will be found out in time.
And you wonder why crowd attendance is down by half? It is not safe to be a Trumper nor even a Republican in 2017. We have no safe place.

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Walt

21 January 2017

Right on Bill… And the LIBS call US the party of hate.
And look who gets hit by friendly fire.
http://www.breitbart.com/live/inauguration-2017-swearing-president-donald-trump/larry-king-trump-protesters-smashed-car-windows/

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Walt

21 January 2017

Funny,, LIBS bitch about the Ruskys,, yet who is Larry king employed by?
“King currently hosts a program on Russia Today (RT), a Kremlin-controlled network.”

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Paul Emery

21 January 2017

More from David Duke applauding the work ” Our people” had in electing Trump. Gregory, Fish, Todd , what is it about Trump that excites these people and inspired their support.
“Former Ku Klux Klan leader David Duke is calling Donald Trump’s electoral victory “one of the most exciting nights of my life.”
Duke, a white nationalist who unsuccessfully ran for Louisiana Senate, tweeted early Wednesday that his supporters played a major part in paving Trump’s road to the presidency.
“Make no mistake about it, our people have played a HUGE role in electing Trump!” he wrote.”

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Gregory

21 January 2017

If it wasn’t for Trump and faux newsmen trying to bring him and his supporters down, no one would want to talk to Duke.
Does that make it easier for you to understand, Paul?

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Gregory

21 January 2017

The “Women’s March” sounds just like Pacifica Radio with the volume turned up.
POWER TO THE correct PEOPLE!

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stevenfrisch

21 January 2017

I do find it kind of funny that they are having to cancel marches all across the country now because so many people turned out that the march routes are already covered with people.

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Walt

21 January 2017

So what Paul? The Black Panthers endorsed “O”. Where were then? So did plenty of White hating folks and groups. But not a peep about them. I know, I know.. That’s different.

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stevenfrisch

21 January 2017

Posted by: Bill Tozer | 21 January 2017 at 10:26 AM
Yep, you are JUST like the Jews…:)

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Gregory

21 January 2017

Wow, Steve, just imagine if they’d all had come out to vote!
Better luck next time. Trump won.

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Walt

21 January 2017

Anti Semitic much Steve? Nice dose of hate there.

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stevenfrisch

21 January 2017

Posted by: Gregory | 21 January 2017 at 10:45 AM
Actually I have to admit that I am not particularly pleased with the sound or the tone of much of the Women’s March program either…largely because it is essentially a sting of acknowledgements for co-sponsors and organizations…but the point of the march is to build a movement and create solidarity. I am a little more cerebral, I would like to hear a set of priorities and policies discussed…but then again this is probably not the venue.
I love the ‘better luck next time” line Greg–you know the thing that most of the posters here fear the most is that the coalition that supports a more progressive America is the majority…and guess what, it will have better luck next time. The America of your youth is gone.
Trump awakened a sleeping giant my friends….he is incapable of bridging this gap…the opposition and the resistance will grow, it will show up in 2018 and 2020 like you have never seen before, it will take Congress and the White House back, and in the end it will prevail.
Too many people in this country refuse to be represented by a pussy grabbing, bigoted, racist, angry, white nationalist.

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stevenfrisch

21 January 2017

Posted by: Walt | 21 January 2017 at 11:02 AM
I suggest you go ask a Jewish friend how they feel about Mr. Tozer’s comments Walt.

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Todd Juvinall

21 January 2017

BillT, hey I wear my Trump cap all over the place and have yet to attacked. Maybe since I am a big tall guy that intimidates those pussy libs? Anyway listening to the screechy women at the SC march should gve all men pause about what to look for in a gal. My goodness, they all sound like that women in the holdng cell at the jail picked up fr drunkeness.
It appears to me that Putin is using these people for his own desire to divide America. We on the right want a ONE AMERICA while Putin and these women and siaffected losers on the left want a divided and segmentized America. So Putin is using them as his tool to divide.
And these women are yelling that they are sooo abused and have no power. My goodness, women have all the power yet cannot even see it. And as far as PATRIOTISM is concerned. I heard not one babe say she was a patriot. Only that she wanted more. Whatever that means.

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Paul emery

21 January 2017

You know Steve there’s nothing better for religion than a good healthy devil in the progressives have got one that exceeds all expectations. My guess is the Republicans will bail on Trump when he gets in trouble and would probably support impeachment to get their guy Pense in it. Is certainly no love lost between the Republican mainstreams and Trump and he really doesn’t have that many supporters at best maybe 30%.

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Walt

21 January 2017

Go fuck yourself Steve, My wife is of Jewish descent, and from Germany on top of that.
Her family knows that persecution. Take your anti semitism and stick it.

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stevenfrisch

21 January 2017

Posted by: Walt | 21 January 2017 at 11:02 AM
I agree with you Paul—power will shift to Congress as it has every time there is a weak, ineffective or corrupt President.

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Todd Juvinall

21 January 2017

stevenfrisch | 21 January 2017 at 11:02 AM
Oh I think America will be just fine in the right side of the next elections. And most of America is fed up with having your progressive, anti-life, anti white people, pro porn, pro anti-patriot, pro illegal, pro sancturay city crap. So get used to being outraged at the America we all love getting back to basics. Respect, charity and religion. It is a wonderful site.
Btw, many of the speakers railed against “white privilege” and “white supremacist” at this baloney rally. Tells me the participants are racists.

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Todd Juvinall

21 January 2017

Paul emery | 21 January 2017 at 11:09 AM
Oh I think it will be just fine. The Congress sees things getting done with someone who agrees with most of their agenda. Obama went it alone as he was unable to check his ego and work with the R’s. Trump is the opposite of the loser Obama.
Hey Walt, people like Frisch are always calling others names. I get it too regarding illegal immigrants. Then I have to tell them my grandaughter is half Mexican-American. But idiots like Frisch never learn.

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Gregory

21 January 2017

Anyone hear the speech by Donna Hylton, who proudly proclaimed she’d spent 27 years in prison and gave a shout out to her fellow prisoners still being held behind bars?
I looked it up… she was convicted “for her part in the brutal, spectacular murder, in which three men and four women tortured a Long Island real-estate broker and, once he was dead, shut him up in a footlocker to decompose.”
Ooooh, Angela Davis is speaking now… she bought the shotgun that was strapped to a judge’s neck to make sure the hostage could be dispached if needed. She’s also a climate change activist. You go, girl!

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Gregory

21 January 2017

” My guess is the Republicans will bail on Trump when he gets in trouble and would probably support impeachment to get their guy Pense in it.” – Paul
Gee, Paul, you’ve given up on the guess that Trump will bail rather than be sworn in and start working the office?
So many guesses, so little time.

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stevenfrisch

21 January 2017

Posted by: Walt | 21 January 2017 at 11:13 AM
Are you really that stupid Walt…I suggest you go back and re-read the exchange.

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Don Bessee

21 January 2017

PE’s frishy show is whistling past the grave yard. How many dem senators are up for reelection in Trump states? How many house? We have total control in 2/3 of the states. 0 eviscerated the dems with his virulent leftist policies. Here is where PE and sidekick say 0 is XX% popular in the adjusted polls. SO what? As 0 himself said; this election was about his polices, team 0 must really be feeling that rejection judging from ms 0’s expressions. 😉

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Todd Juvinall

21 January 2017

Walt is way smarter than you Frisch. He never BK’d a restaurant.

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Gregory

21 January 2017

Frisch 1102
“Trump secured 48 percent of the white vote in the 18-to-29 age group, while Clinton won just 43 percent”.
They aren’t the youth you remember, Steve.

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Paul emery

21 January 2017

So Todd the Trump hat you’re wearing is not made in America and guarantees that

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BradC

21 January 2017

@Gregory –
Straw men Gregory? From you, of all people! I was referring to the content of the two inauguration speeches.
Listen to Bush talk about our issues – the same issues Trump and his Trumpeteers blame Obama for failing to address –
“We must live up to the calling we share. Civility is not a tactic or a sentiment; it is the determined choice of trust over cynicism, of community over chaos. And this commitment, if we keep it, is a way to shared accomplishment.
America at its best is also courageous. Our national courage has been clear in times of depression and war, when defeating common dangers defined our common good. Now we must choose if the example of our fathers and mothers will inspire us or condemn us. We must show courage in a time of blessing by confronting problems instead of passing them on to future generations.
Together we will reclaim America’s schools before ignorance and apathy claim more young lives. We will reform Social Security and Medicare, sparing our children from struggles we have the power to prevent. And we will reduce taxes to recover the momentum of our economy and reward the effort and enterprise of working Americans.
We will build our defenses beyond challenge, lest weakness invite challenge. We will confront weapons of mass destruction, so that a new century is spared new horrors. The enemies of liberty and our country should make no mistake: America remains engaged in the world, by history and by choice, shaping a balance of power that favors freedom.
We will defend our allies and our interests. We will show purpose without arrogance. We will meet aggression and bad faith with resolve and strength. And to all nations, we will speak for the values that gave our Nation birth.
America at its best is compassionate. In the quiet of American conscience, we know that deep, persistent poverty is unworthy of our Nation’s promise. And whatever our views of its cause, we can agree that children at risk are not at fault.
Abandonment and abuse are not acts of God; they are failures of love. And the proliferation of prisons, however necessary, is no substitute for hope and order in our souls. Where there is suffering, there is duty. Americans in need are not strangers; they are citizens—not problems but priorities. And all of us are diminished when any are hopeless.”
Bush could not solve all the problems facing America – neither could Obama.
Maybe Americans will respond to Trump’s “Amerika, uber alles!” speech. We shall see.
Trump is not starting out facing a financial meltdown and massive job losses as Obama did. Obama made America OK again. Trump will just have to make a few tweaks, add some icing on the cake, and, I am sure, take all the credit.
PS – a recession is overdue – DoH!

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Gregory

21 January 2017

Paul, reports are the MAGA hats being sold by Trump are made in the USA but it remains a free country. Hats from China, Viet Nam and the Indian subcontinent are readily available from independent vendors enjoying a larger profit margin.

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Walt

21 January 2017

Freeloader Steve. I don’t see anything in what Bill said that wasn’t accurate.
LIBS trash and destroy property when peeved. That’s something “our side” just doesn’t do.
“WE” don’t beat up people in the streets because “we” don’t like the T-shirt they are wearing. “We” don’t torch your car because it had a pro “O” bumper sticker.
That’s the things YOUR hate filled pricks do.

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Gregory

21 January 2017

“Maybe Americans will respond to Trump’s “Amerika, uber alles!” speech. We shall see.”
More straw men from you, BradC. The idea that the US government should represent the interests of its citizens and taxpayers first is not a call for the USA to be “uber alles”.
I’d prefer a Libertarian at the helm but I expect Trump will not be the disaster Clinton would have been. Power to the Textualists!
PS now Madonna is speaking. Good will win in the end! And Amy Schumer is behind her!
Todd, Madonna said “Fuck You!” a couple of times and I think she meant for you to hear it. Just doing my part. Ooooh, now she’s about to sing and has invited all to join in.

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Paul Emery

21 January 2017

Downtown Nevada City is packed with women protesting our “Pussy Grabbing President”. Biggest protest parade I’ve ever seen in my town.
Hats off to Heidi Hall winner of the District 1 Supes race in a landslide, who is part of the Washington March today.

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Todd Juvinall

21 January 2017

Oh Paul, I just heard Madonna, you know that slut right? She was F-bombing all over the place. What a role model.
And you sound like a kitty Paul, whipped and looking for someone to tell you what a man you are. These gals will calm down as they always do and they will get back to their lives of complaining about you. What a hoot.

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Walt

21 January 2017

They can protest all they like. It isn’t going to change a damned thing.
Welcome to America.

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Gregory

21 January 2017

While the marches continue, Trump is doing the presidential stuff he was elected to do.
I wouldn’t say “Happy Days are Here Again” but then, my only reason for relief on Election Night was knowing the next two or three SCOTUS nominees will not be social justice warriors ready to trash the clear meaning of the Constitution.
Guns, immigration law, climate change. We live in interesting times.

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Don Bessee

21 January 2017

Hey PE 1156- Did they actually make new signs or is it just the same old, same old from every overpass protest from years past in ‘your town’? 😉

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Bill Tozer

21 January 2017

Well, no holding back boys! Got to get it out of our systems. This melt done just keeps going on and on. After awhile if Trump is still in office, they will realize nobody is coming to take their rights away. Gays are safe and all the little child of the land, red and yellow, black and white. Abortions in back alleys again. Yeah, like that is going to happen.
White Nationalist? A White Nationist believes in equality and a segregated society. White Nationalists do not believe in superiority of one race over any other. Blacks live with blacks, whites with whites, and want it that way. Not the KKK, not the Arryian Nation, not David Duke (?). Don’t no Duke’s positions because never read one paragraph about Duke in my life. No interest in that crap.
Farrakhan’s Nation of Islam believes in the same thing. That is why when I saw in the papers that a few colleges are offering Black only dorms this year, I said, “Damn! This is like going back to separate but equal. Time warp. The first ones (of many) are being readied as I speak. Sorry for the diversion.
Ok, is Trump a White Nationalist? Not a Surpremist, a White Nationalist. All races are equal…just White People should live with Y-Ts and Black Folk should live with Black Folk. Decide within your own noggins and let’s get it all out in the open.
Is Trump a White Nationalist? Yea or nay.

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Paul Emery

21 January 2017

Todd
Your support of Pussy Grabbing will not be kindly received by the Guy in the Sky.

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Todd Juvinall

21 January 2017

Paul Emery, what? I treat women with respect so I have a good chance of going north. You are really a sad sack though. Your support of these racist and misogynistic women is truly frightening.

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Paul Emery

21 January 2017

Todd
Not a word of concern from you about Trump bragging about his assaults on women. Not one.

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Don Bessee

21 January 2017

So as an alt-left wing, druid PE what guy in the sky are you referring to? 😉

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Paul Emery

21 January 2017

Bill 12:09
Good question that I don’t have a firm answer on. The Whities and KKK sure do like him and were dancing with glee and were back slapping each other with a “job well done” after he won. Much like the Russians.

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George Rebane

21 January 2017

Anyone notice that those whose months of predictions and polls, which turned out terribly wrong, are the very people taking strength from their manifold mistakes and now double down on more predictions delivered even more firmly and fervently??

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Paul Emery

21 January 2017

Just a reminder that Hillary Clinton won among women by about 14 percentage points.

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Paul Emery

21 January 2017

George
My guess is that many voters who were turned off by Hillary chose not to vote and now wish they had. Although Trump won the election he does not by any stretch of the imagination have popular support. Credible polls repeatably show that. He is walking on thin ice and does not have a bump in popularity to squander as Obama had and did.

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Bill Tozer

21 January 2017

Brad. Quit comparing Trump and Trump’sspeeches to any other politician we ever elected to be President.
Wrap your head around this concept. Trump does not think like a politician. He has no political awareness. That is how he is wired. He don’t think in flowery inspirational politico speak or have a “politician thought process” front and center on his mind. Why say what a dimplomat would say in 14 minutes if you can say it in 10 seconds?
Good speech? Not a great speech. No “Ask what you can do for your Country”, no “Shining light on the hill”.
No olive branches, Total unabashed non – apologetic saying we are getting screwed and we need to put America first and foremost.
Or, to quote Ross Perot, let’s lift up the hood and see what is going on. Trump’s speech was a list of what he sees needs fixing. Not a conservative speech. Not even a political speech. A Trump speech, unique in our history. Compare that to what?? Flair, style, inspiration, willing hearts and minds?

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