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[President Trump made the most populist and unambiguous pro-America inauguration speech in history today.  In many ways it was an 'in your face' indictment of his predecessor.  Now it is time to deliver.  Godspeed to our new President!  gjr]

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382 responses to “Sandbox – 20jan17”

  1. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    Boys, the Bikers for Trump are camping out in Virginia. They were scheduled to ride after the swearing in and before the parade. But, there is just too many of them and a logistics nightmare. It is all coordinated with the Park Police, Capitol Police, and Parks Service. They have two permits, (one for Saturday) but will ride in only if it does not interfere with security and crowd control. They be law abiding combat veterans who now how to be discipled and follow orders.
    It never was missing!
    http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/mlk-bust-sean-spicer-warns-reporters-against-danger-of-tweet-first-check-facts-later/article/2612547
    It’s back!
    http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/trump-returns-churchill-bust-to-the-oval-office/article/2612541

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  2. Walt Avatar

    Bill. The Mrs. got a nastygram from the state just yesterday saying “sign up, or pay a 600 dollar fine. Have a nice day.” The state isn’t going to get either.
    First the state ends the plan for illegals for free health care, now gets the rug yanked out from underneath.
    Jerry and the kids are having a rough night. No healthcare scam, no AGW bucks.
    Let me guess.. The carbon credit BS might be next?
    President Trump didn’t just throw a monkey wrench into the works, he set to dump the whole tool box in.
    Sunshine on our rainy day.

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  3. Steven Frisch Avatar
    Steven Frisch

    Um Walt, if you read the article the organizer stated clearly the permit was for 5000 riders.

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  4. Walt Avatar

    Funny how things work out Steve. That #number is one thing. what shows up is a whole different matter. The first big Tea Party rally down in Sac. was permitted for about a thousand. 5000 showed. As they say,, “I was there”….
    So there is “5000” members of the club. Then you have ALLLL the rest who decide to ride.
    But keep thinking… Nice try.

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  5. Todd Juvinall Avatar
    Todd Juvinall

    Just watched Paul Manifort interviewed. The guy is sharp. I think Podeta though has some problems with his money from TRussia as does Bill and Hillary Clinton. Maybe a trial?
    And CSPAN is as I write this running the loony lefty organizations rally and speeches in DC this morning. These are Frisch types. What a hoot!
    Speaking of Frisch, I don’t think he has ever gonbe back to his hometown Chicago and walked those mean streets has he? He could go there and stop the violence. Well, maybe he is a chicken leg. LOL!
    250,000 bikers will be quite the site!

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  6. Todd Juvinall Avatar
    Todd Juvinall

    Paul Emery are you getting ready for the hot place? LOL!

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  7. Steven Frisch Avatar
    Steven Frisch

    News reports today put the numbers at 5000 Walt…5ooo.

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  8. Todd Juvinall Avatar
    Todd Juvinall

    Those 250,000 Harleys will sure make a lot of noise.

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  9. Walt Avatar

    You go personally count them and then get back to me. You got caught posting a stale link.
    Yup, a little embarrassing. At least you showed back up.(yet still pulled a Paul… change the subject..)I give you that. Paul is gone for the rest of the night.
    The bikers must have done a pretty good job. The buttwipes didn’t desturb the parade as planed. And from what I saw on Youtube, the Progressive pricks were on the losing side of things.

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  10. ScenesFromTheApocalypse Avatar
    ScenesFromTheApocalypse

    In other news, people begin to report on the new First Family.
    https://i.redd.it/mbu2xx1s9yay.png

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  11. Gregory Avatar
    Gregory

    Sure, Paul, Trump will be headed off at the next pass. Always the next pass.

    White men opted 63% for Trump and 31% for Clinton; white women voted 53% for Trump and 43% for Clinton.
    Among non-college-educated whites, 67% voted for Trump – 72% of men and 62% of women.
    Among college-educated whites, 45% voted for Clinton – 39% of men and 51% of women (the only white demographic represented in the poll where the former secretary of state came out on top). But 54% of male college graduates voted for Trump, as did 45% of female college graduates.
    More 18- to 29-year-old whites voted for Trump (48%) than Clinton (43%).

    No, women did not vote for Hillary as a block. The party tomorrow will be left leaning women, not women in general. Have fun everyone.

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  12. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    Hmm. Let’s see. 600 inkers went up to NY on Thursday to be close, yet on call. The big meeting place in Penn had them park and take busses in. They be groups of them spread out all other gathering spots on people’s farms and bussing on in. Yep, permit and news and photos say 5,000 I reckon. Think they meant 5,000 in one spot, but what do I know?. Let the police handle the Meltdown, our men and women are going to do some mingling in the crowds. :).

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  13. Gregory Avatar
    Gregory

    “Every time some hick uses the term snowflake I get a special chuckle out of the knowledge that it was coined by liberal hollywood actor, liberal and climate activist, Brad Pitt.” -Frisch 6:29
    Could have stopped at the actor citation, cupcake. So he plays make believe for a living. Puts being on the left and being a “climate activist” in perspective, doesn’t it?
    Pitt was a graduate of Kickapoo High School and a college drop out, but then he was studying journalism. No big loss. Your kind of authority figure, Steve, but I’ll just enjoy his work playing make believe in the movie theaters. BTW Pitt was masterful in 12 Monkeys… Did a an absolutely great job playing a mental case. One of the very best of Terry Gilliam’s movies.

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  14. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    Pssst. Is it safe to come out of the closet yet? Is the coast clear?
    http://www.latimes.com/politics/la-na-pol-california-gop-inauguration-trump-20170120-story.html

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  15. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    Oh my. He’s running amok in enemy terrority. There is always one in every crowd.
    http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/inauguration-street-artist-targets-hollywood-anti-trumpers-24-spoof-posters-966396

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  16. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    Fox poll today has Obama exiting with a 57-39 approval rating + 18 rating
    Of course even Fox is rigged
    Fox has trump at 37-54 -17% Negative
    Bad starte for the Trumper. Inauguration is usually the high point.
    This is really going to be fun
    Oh yeah Of course even Fox is rigged
    Creepy watching all the white couples dancing at the Armed Services Ball. Had to import a brown for the dance
    Horrible out of tune Violin. Really would make any musician cringe.

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  17. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    Oh Paul, are you taking to the man in the mirror again? Last I looked, you won’t be winning any beauty contests and you dance like a whiteq man. And a good authority says you are a mediocre musician, but what do qI know? People are often wrong.
    Speak to the hand.

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  18. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    Yeah I’m not really that hot but I can sing a sweet song and make people dance. What keeps you up so late Bill? These are musicians hours. Did sound at the Janis Birthday Concert at the Nevada Theater tonight. Good show. Here’s a web link.
    http://www.legacypresents.com/upcoming-shows.html

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  19. Gregory Avatar
    Gregory

    Paul, living under Obama for 8 years has hollowed out the Den party… perhaps you can reconcile the wholesale rejection of his policies with the personal poll nos?

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  20. stevenfrisch Avatar
    stevenfrisch

    Walt can you back up your 250,000 figure (which was repeated like a parrot by Mr. Juvinall) with any actual evidence. I din’t post a dead link, I posted a reference to the actual organizer of the biker event saying her had a permit for 5000 participants.
    You don’t have dilly squat documenting you silly claim Walt.

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  21. Gregory Avatar
    Gregory

    “KBTW, I love the point that the Executive Order BLOTUS signed today said it would be the policy of the Trump administration to seek the repeal of Obamacare. Seek the repeal? What happened to immediately signing and EO repealing Obamacare? The betrayal begins :)”
    -Frisch 547pm
    “The one-page order, which Mr. Trump signed in a hastily arranged Oval Office ceremony shortly before departing for the inaugural balls, gave no specifics about which aspects of the law it was targeting. But its broad language gave federal agencies wide latitude to change, delay or waive provisions of the law that they deemed overly costly for insurers, drug makers, doctors, patients or states, suggesting that it could have wide-ranging impact, and essentially allowing the dismantling of the law to begin even before Congress moves to repeal it.”
    -NY Times
    Everyone besides Stevie is interpreting this as Trump filling the first day pledge.
    Steve, time for more hamster dance!

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  22. stevenfrisch Avatar
    stevenfrisch

    Posted by: Gregory | 21 January 2017 at 06:09 AM
    Merely pointing our how the BLOTUS exaggerated his powers and lied to most of America about what he would actually do. My guess is that this action will be amongst the most controversial in the long run because much as Republicans might want to immediately repeal without a replacement that maintains the 20 million Americans who now have health insurance who did not previously, and coverage for children up to 26 years of age, and coverage for pre-existing conditions, Republicans are removing a popular program.
    So now they are stuck….because they have no way to pay for it without premiums increasing for everyone else.
    Period.
    They will have to either replace with something just as expensive or more so….or face the wrath of a public who they are taking benefits away from.
    Catch-22 for the big mouths.

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  23. Gregory Avatar
    Gregory

    Never popular, less than half supporting. Lying agin, Steve, or residual deLusions?
    http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/other/obama_and_democrats_health_care_plan-1130.html
    It never did tackle the problem of “gold plated” employer plans that shoveled untaxed compensation to high paid workers and drove prices faster than inflation… much beloved by those that got them.

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  24. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    Children up to 26 years old? Well, that explains a lot. Is that what we call those that got a college degree 4 years ago? Children? Hmmm, don’t hurt the children!
    I hope their healthcare insurance covers play dough, coloring books, and magic ponies. Mental health coverage is a good thing.

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  25. ScenesFromTheApocalypse Avatar
    ScenesFromTheApocalypse

    re: BillT 10:57PM.
    According to this thinking, it’s never clear.
    https://storify.com/sphenoid/days-of-rage-pt-5-finale-what-does-it-portend

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  26. Todd Juvinall Avatar
    Todd Juvinall

    Oh ny, Steve Frisch is disappointed that Trump did not totally finish the turnaround in a day? Sorry but we knew it was nor going to happen and it does not matter. It will take some time. The libs just don’t get it.

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  27. stevenfrisch Avatar
    stevenfrisch

    Posted by: Bill Tozer | 21 January 2017 at 07:14 AM
    Merriam-Webster Dictionary: “… a son or daughter of human parents.”
    I know we live in a fact free universe Tozer but words do have meanings.

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  28. stevenfrisch Avatar
    stevenfrisch

    Posted by: Todd Juvinall | 21 January 2017 at 08:01 AM
    I am not disappointed, I am just explaining to you rubes that in about 4 years you are going to be paying way more for health insurance than you are now, under the current plans the Republicans are advancing, except for Todd of course who will be sucking at the government teat of medicare 🙂
    This will be a huge electoral issue as well, and want to know where it ends? Single payer in about 8 years.

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  29. Gregory Avatar
    Gregory

    Looks like the large mouth ass from Truckee was hooked by their own BS.
    Central to the Obamacare debacle is the debasement of the word “insurance”. It used to mean for healthcare what it means everywhere else… you pay for the little stuff yourself but when something big happens… the shared risk you’ve been paying for pays off and bails you out.
    Employer paid health care is not, by and large, “insurance”, and Obamacare coverage for preexisting condidions isn’t insurance either, it’s a gift from those who have been paying to those that have not.
    It’s also different than the “preexisting condition” problems of folks who had been insured who now have to get a new policy, generally because of a loss of a job. That problem is portability and it could have been solved with a stroke of a pen. “If you were insured when the condition was diagnosed, you can’t have it held against you”. Another would be “preexisting conditions diagnosed while not covered by insurance can be exempted from insurance coverage for up to two years”… in California, insurers were forbidden to carve out preexisting conditions from policies. So they just refused to issue them at all.
    Obamacare was fatally flawed from the beginning and many rational observers believe that was by design… so single payer socialized medicine will be politically possible when it melts down… I expect that assumed that Democrats would be in control of the Presidency, the House, the Senate and the Judiciary when that happened. Doesn’t look that way now, does it, Steve?

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  30. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    Steve @ 8:11am. Now I am confused. It says son or daughter, but does not mention the other genders. Children have it rough nowadays.

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  31. stevenfrisch Avatar
    stevenfrisch

    Posted by: Gregory | 21 January 2017 at 06:48 AM
    This one is for Gregory:
    http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2017/01/obamacare-now-more-popular-donald-trump

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  32. stevenfrisch Avatar
    stevenfrisch

    You keep up that contention that pre-existing conditions are a gift to people who have not been paying and you are going to find out that a lot of opioid addled folk are going to pretty pissed off 🙂

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  33. Todd Juvinall Avatar
    Todd Juvinall

    Looks like 100,000 babes at their gay and lesbian rally.

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  34. Todd Juvinall Avatar
    Todd Juvinall

    Michael Moore is yelling at them for a date. Poor man.

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  35. Gregory Avatar
    Gregory

    Stevie, they are gifts. Insurance is about paying before the loss… just ask 21st Century why they don’t sell collision coverage that pays for existing damage.
    Obamacare was, from the beginning, an income transfer from the young to the old, the healthy to the ill, the working to the unemployed, the wealthy to the poor. It wasn’t about fixing insurance for the vast middle classes, lowest to uppermost.

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  36. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    Steve: a son or daughter of human parents. Does that mean if young parents die, their children are not longer children?

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  37. Todd Juvinall Avatar
    Todd Juvinall

    Michael Moore reminds me of Pelline and Frisch except not as big. He cracks me up. He even called out to the babes his phone number. The man is desperate. And why would the “womens” March have this guy yapping anyway? I guess they can’t make a move without a man telling them what to do?

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  38. Todd Juvinall Avatar
    Todd Juvinall

    And since the “march is mostly filled by women from the Northeast, it is no surprise anyway. They all voted for Hillary. LOL!

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  39. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    Todd: Michael Moore is a child. They are all children. That explains why there are no adults left to run the State in Sacramento. I want a bullet train! I want to play with my Choo-Choo and I want to play with it now!

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  40. Gregory Avatar
    Gregory

    Comparing the crowds today versus the crowds yesterday, which do you think voted in larger numbers?
    I wonder if Podesta regrets pushing Trump as the pied piper candidate that Hillary could beat in the election? Before even the first primary vote was cast? Sad!

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  41. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    “It is left-wing protests that invariably devolve into law-breaking and so it was that the same kids who think Donald Trump is too divisive were soon smashing windows and throwing projectiles at police in behalf of their supposedly more open-minded vision of America. (The left’s street protesters act as if there is no social or political problem that can’t be addressed by hurling things at cops.)
    The same media that would’ve denounced pro-Trump protests as a threat to democracy has treated the anti-Trump protests as a natural symptom of a divided country. Erupting in rage at the result of an election went from a grave offense against our system to the latest front in the battle for social justice right around the time that the Upper Midwest was called for Trump.”

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  42. stevenfrisch Avatar
    stevenfrisch

    Yep, the violent anarchist protesters are idiots, no argument from me on that….they are as idiotic as the Bundy’s taking over Malheur…or any other idiot who resorts to violence.
    I am sure tomorrow Todd will be claiming all these nice women were shitting on the lawn and beating cops…but funny…not one word yet today of violence….wonder why?

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  43. Walt Avatar

    Today proves only one thing. LIBS are good at bitching, and accomplishing nothing.

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  44. stevenfrisch Avatar
    stevenfrisch

    Posted by: Walt | 21 January 2017 at 09:30 AM
    Yep, estimates are in from the DC police at 500,000 (double the inaugural) with another roughly 2.5 million marching around the world. Yep, bitching about nothing 🙂

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  45. Walt Avatar

    I’m supposed to be impressed? 2.5 million worldwide? OOOhhhhhh.. BFD.
    Has the local gals taken over the overpass today to bark at passing cars?
    Crowds of LIBS.. Nothing new about that. Not to mention the refuse that gets left behind by LIBS for others to clean up. Go tell Stevey, why are Repub events so much cleaner after the fact? LIB mothers didn’t teach you guys to clean up after yourselves?

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  46. Todd Juvinall Avatar
    Todd Juvinall

    Oh I think it is great that 200,000 women are marching today. I saw a whole lot of single guys roaming the masses looking for a date probably. If you watch the speakers all you get though is a bunch of whiny complainers and man haters. Of course they would not apply to Frisch. Anyway, if these whiners put as much energy into something positive for the country we would be unstoppable. But als, it is like a old divorced ex0wife bitcjing about the alimony check as she engages the gals in the hir dresser shop.

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  47. Gregory Avatar
    Gregory

    Listening to Kamala Harris, one can almost forget that her Democratic Party has been hollowed out and that very many women are not voting for Democrats, including a majority of white women.
    Trump was faulted for not doing enough to unite the country, the propaganda coming from the Mall today is as divisive as can be. Not surprising considering how women who didn’t accept the leftist status quo weren’t welcome.

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  48. BradC Avatar
    BradC

    To gain some perspective on Trump’s inaugural speech, check out the G.W. Bush speech from 2001 – also a contentious election. Note the similar themes. Bush was saying many of the same things Trump did pre-Obama, yet Obama has been blamed by the ‘Right’ for everything that has happened since Bush was elected 16 years ago.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rXzgMdj5urs&feature=player_embedded

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