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George Rebane

[This is the transcript of my regular KVMR commentary broadcast on 26 October 2016.]

Today’s polls, rigged or not, make it look like Hillary Clinton will be our next president.  Donald Trump has made about every mistake possible on the campaign trail, and most would agree that any of the other 16 Republican candidates would have taken Hillary in a walk.

The real question is about the attitude with which she and the Democrats will attempt to govern.  All, save her hard core supporters, know her to be damaged goods.  Of course that doesn’t mean she will not do her best to spin her victory as a triumph of progressivism, and see a mandate to inaugurate a “second progressive” era as explained in the Washington Monthly.  But there’s good reason to believe that Hillary won’t be able to pull that off any better than did Lyndon Johnson when he beat Goldwater in 1964 and attempted to launch America into a another New Deal.  Although I have to admit that Johnson’s Great Society did the next best thing to set the country on a path to big government socialism and also put conservatism on the map.

The real point here is that Hillary’s victory may well sweep away Trump’s political career, but it will not erase the national anger that has grown over the last decade.  Today well over half the voters believe that the federal government is more than less incompetent, and that includes even some of the folks who are getting regular government checks.  A recent Gallup poll revealed a solid 54% majority who favor a less intrusive government in Washington.  And half of Americans see the federal government as “an immediate threat to the rights and freedoms of ordinary citizens” according to Gallup which in 2003 measured that sentiment at only 30%.


The progressives will have a hard time with even the minimally informed Millennials because, although they may hold liberal views on such issues as illegal aliens and gay marriage, they are not all in favor of growing leviathan, with less than one-third still thinking that Washington will do a better job than their local governments at solving problems.  And the Millennials, like the Gen Xers and Baby Boomers before them, will become more conservative as they age and learn.

On the Right, these sentiments against a big, intrusive, incompetent, and distant government are deeply ingrained.  And these are not in the slightest tied to Trump, who is seen as the only available standard bearer willing to call out the longstanding corruption and incompetence of the Washington establishment and their coastal allies – media, entertainment, Wall Street, and Silicon Valley.  If and when Trump fades into the distance, most Americans will note that nothing in Washington has changed, except that we will then have the most corrupt, untrustworthy, and scandal-riddled president in the Oval Office, who will be opposed at every turn as she attempts to double down on the failed policies of her predecessor.

In short, with the groundwork of discontent started under Bush2 and solidified by Obama, the country was ready to hear from two political outliers like Bernie Sanders and Donald Trump.  Combining their supporters, we see a huge fraction of Americans who demand and are ready to try something new in how the country is governed.  But that does not mean that these people see eye-to-eye on the needed solutions.  Instead it will make visible the real schisms that have given rise to what many see as the coming Great Divide.

Obama advertised himself as the Great Unifier, and wound up being the most divisive president of the last hundred years.  Hillary will up that in a new era of political and socio-economic factionalism which we have not seen since the country was rent by abolition.  In such times people will seek to bind more closely with those they view as ‘their own kind’ to find like-minded support to oppose the new tentacles reaching out from Washington.  And this should not surprise us; it has always happened in times of heightened political chaos and corruption.

My name is Rebane, and I also expand on this and related themes on Rebane’s Ruminations where the transcript of this commentary is posted with relevant links, and where such issues are debated extensively.  However my views are not necessarily shared by KVMR.  Thank you for listening.

[Addendum]  As I drafted this commentary a reader and correspondent, to whom a hat tip is in order, sent me the link to similar thoughts expressed in ‘Trump Will Go Away, but the Anger He’s Stirred Up Is Just Getting Started’ by the nationally syndicated Joel Kotkin.

    

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22 responses to “America’s Anger Will Remain and Grow”

  1. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    America’s anger will indeed grow and grow. If I take off my Trump ball cap and put on my neutral observer thinking hat, I cannot for the life of me figure out what Hillary Rodman Clinton stands for policy wise. She never articulated cleanly the big “why am I running for President of the United States of America”.
    I can only foresee her going the GHW Bush’s theme of “stay the course”. Thus, the anger will have no place to go. The economy? Stay the course. Stagnet wages? Stay the course. On kitchen table issues such as Obamacare, she echoes Bill Clinton on his Affirmative Action changes with his “mend it, don’t end it. Law and order issues? We need to address our White Privilege and train (blame) our police. Anger over NAFTA? She sees no problem. She is the least qualified person on the planet to tackle corruption in government. To the victor goes the spoils.
    The real anger is directed at a ever growing intrusive Federal Government that Hillary has shown zero inclinations to oppose or restrain. She is tone deaf to innumerial root causes of deep seated anger from Delaware to Reno. She does not see any reason to change. Rather she embraces the need to expand the role of government into every aspect of our daily lives.
    She speaks fondly of her hard working Middle America Protestant Work Ethic father who was silk screener, yet omits the fact that her father owned the factory where he worked. She does not recognize that today her dad’s business would be in China or, if still standing in America, would be financially viable solely due to low payed immigrants on the payroll. In essence, she is tone deaf to her policies carving out the middle class of America and being replaced with a globist view of free movement of peoples without borders or national sovereignty.
    All the above to say is there is no place for the anger directed at the current direction of the country to go..no place. It will only grow bigger. While the OWS crowd focused its anger at the big banks, a larger segment of the population has focused its anger at a corrupt insolent incestuous growing government long before the Great Recession.
    Once talked with a prison warden. He was aware of some “stills” brewing home made corn whiskey, bathtub gin, and pruno in the back. Not only was he aware of it, he condoned it. Said it was needed when tensions started to perpulate to the surface. Allowed the inmates to blow off some steam and lower the tempers when the pressures built up. A Hillary Clinton Administration offers no such mechanism to lower the temperature. Thus the anger will grow and grow and continue to build up pressure.

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  2. Russ Avatar
    Russ

    This anger will truly explode if Trump wins the Popular vote and Hillary wins the Electorial College vote. There will be blood in the streets as the anger spills out of homes, workplaces, and bars across this nation. Stay home on the 9th of November, should this nation crippling event take place.

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  3. Gregory Avatar
    Gregory

    The Bully Party by Scott (Dilbert) Adams

    I’ve been trying to figure out what common trait binds Clinton supporters together. As far as I can tell, the most unifying characteristic is a willingness to bully in all its forms.
    If you have a Trump sign in your lawn, they will steal it.
    If you have a Trump bumper sticker, they will deface your car.
    if you speak of Trump at work you could get fired.
    On social media, almost every message I get from a Clinton supporter is a bullying type of message. They insult. They try to shame. They label. And obviously they threaten my livelihood.
    We know from Project Veritas that Clinton supporters tried to incite violence at Trump rallies. The media downplays it.
    We also know Clinton’s side hired paid trolls to bully online. You don’t hear much about that.
    Yesterday, by no coincidence, Huffington Post, Salon, and Daily Kos all published similar-sounding hit pieces on me, presumably to lower my influence. (That reason, plus jealousy, are the only reasons writers write about other writers.)
    Joe Biden said he wanted to take Trump behind the bleachers and beat him up. No one on Clinton’s side disavowed that call to violence because, I assume, they consider it justified hyperbole.
    Team Clinton has succeeded in perpetuating one of the greatest evils I have seen in my lifetime. Her side has branded Trump supporters (40%+ of voters) as Nazis, sexists, homophobes, racists, and a few other fighting words. Their argument is built on confirmation bias and persuasion. But facts don’t matter because facts never matter in politics. What matters is that Clinton’s framing of Trump provides moral cover for any bullying behavior online or in person. No one can be a bad person for opposing Hitler, right?
    Some Trump supporters online have suggested that people who intend to vote for Trump should wear their Trump hats on election day. That is a dangerous idea, and I strongly discourage it. There would be riots in the streets because we already know the bullies would attack. But on election day, inviting those attacks is an extra-dangerous idea. Violence is bad on any day, but on election day, Republicans are far more likely to unholster in an effort to protect their voting rights. Things will get wet fast.
    Yes, yes, I realize Trump supporters say bad things about Clinton supporters too. I don’t defend the bad apples on either side. I’ll just point out that Trump’s message is about uniting all Americans under one flag. The Clinton message is that some Americans are good people and the other 40% are some form of deplorables, deserving of shame, vandalism, punishing taxation, and violence. She has literally turned Americans on each other. It is hard for me to imagine a worse thing for a presidential candidate to do.
    I’ll say that again.
    As far as I can tell, the worst thing a presidential candidate can do is turn Americans against each other. Clinton is doing that, intentionally.

    http://blog.dilbert.com/post/152293480726/the-bully-party

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  4. George Rebane Avatar

    For the record, every one of our friends who have put out Trump signs have had them stolen, many of them multiple times. It is the standard behavior of the Left that goes back to Lenin’s day.

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  5. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    Imagine the various expression of anger if Trump wins. Holy Smokes, our cities will be aflame, flash mobs pulling old white folks with canes out of their homes and beating the stew out of them in the front yard, and a catered sit-in on the floor of The House and Senate chambers. Some people get very emotional when things don’t go the way they demand them to turn out. Nah, they would never do that. Ok, they would, but because it is in the name of healing the divide. Incoming!

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  6. George Boardman Avatar

    Russ, you seem to be confused.
    How can Trump win the popular vote if the process is rigged and there is massive voter fraud, as you have “documented”?
    Why would Trump’s supporters object if the Electoral College declared Hillary the winner? Conservatives, not liberals, keep insisting that we retain this archaic institution.

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  7. Gregory Avatar
    Gregory

    More from “The Bully Party” … this is for you, Boardman:

    As far as I can tell, the worst thing a presidential candidate can do is turn Americans against each other. Clinton is doing that, intentionally.
    Intentionally.
    As I often say, I don’t know who has the best policies. I don’t know the best way to fight ISIS and I don’t know how to fix healthcare or trade deals. I don’t know which tax policies are best to lift the economy. I don’t know the best way to handle any of that stuff. (And neither do you.) But I do have a bad reaction to bullies. And I’ve reached my limit.
    I hope you have too. Therefore…
    I endorse Donald Trump for President of the United States because I oppose bullying in all its forms.
    I don’t defend Trump’s personal life. Neither Trump nor Clinton are role models for our children. Let’s call that a tie, at worst.
    The bullies are welcome to drown in their own bile while those of us who want a better world do what we’ve been doing for hundreds of years: Work to make it better while others complain about how we’re doing it.
    Today I put Trump’s odds of winning in a landslide back to 98%. Remember, I told you a few weeks ago that Trump couldn’t win unless “something changed.”
    Something just changed.
    <a href="http://blog.dilbert.com/post/152293480726/the-bully-party

    “>http://blog.dilbert.com/post/152293480726/the-bully-party

    That’s nearly enough to make me want to vote for Trump… but not quite. While Michael Moore seems on the money that a Trump vote is a big F-U from a fed up rabble, I’ll be sticking with my little F-U from the Libertarian perspective, and in California that’s worth exactly the same number of Electors.

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  8. Gregory Avatar
    Gregory

    On to the gossip rags… the FBI grilled Angelina Jolie for four hours over child abuse allegations against Brad Pitt.
    They chatted with Hillary for a half hour less over her mishandling of classified material.

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  9. Walt Avatar

    I will make it easy for Boardman. I know your old, and memory of facts fades with age.
    Try Googling “confirmed Voter fraud”. Forget Kennedy VS Nixon? Then there is the DEMs being well known for “Vote early,,and often”.
    And not long ago, right here in Ca., The Dems kept “finding” boxes of uncounted ballots.
    They kept”finding” them till they had enough to beat the Repub. with.
    And since the LIBS in Ca. run the show in the elections offices, and claim of voter fraud is round filed.
    Forget Eric the With-Holder refused to prosecute “his people”(His words Boardman) for voter intimidation?

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  10. George Boardman Avatar

    Walt, I guess I’m right; Trump can’t win the popular election. What makes Russ think he can?

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  11. Todd Juvinall Avatar
    Todd Juvinall

    Polls are tightening. Underlying stats show most of the lamestream polls are weighted up to 12 points higher for democrats. No one knows. And your pals were all at a Hillary Dinner at Podesta’s at the beginning of the campaign. All corrupt.

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  12. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    Boy, people are already venting their anger. Whatever brought this on? A mystery I tell ya. Some folks just can’t get no respect.
    http://www.breitbart.com/big-journalism/2016/10/26/triggered-journalist-snowflakes-scared-trump-supporters-are-turning-on-the-media/
    Walt, you have to excuse Boardman. He has turned to his trusted news sources and has yet to realize he is watching the “I’m With Her” show on the Clinton Campaign Channels.
    Nobody knows for sure who will win, albeit the orbits were written 2 days ago….before the polls began to tighten.
    https://www.facebook.com/lastamericapatriots/photos/a.235087906641439.1073741826.235086849974878/732125960270962/?type=3&theater

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  13. Gregory Avatar
    Gregory

    Boardman, the system is rigged (a wonderful word, look it up) but that doesn’t mean Trump can’t win. My plane (still in production, mine is an affordable aircraft that left the factory when LBJ was in power) is rigged to fly straight (mostly) and level but it will climb, descend, turn left, turn right as desired. Most of the time.
    Part of the system is an independent free press… we have a dependent class of journalists in name only who are in the tank (over 90%) for Democrats, especially Hillary, by measure of their story choices and financial contributions.
    Another part of the system is a fair and independent justice system and IRS.
    Fill in the rest.

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  14. Walt Avatar

    So Boardman.. Vote manipulation is just fine as long as LIBS do it… Right?
    It was O when “O” and Co. used the IRS to make sure the Tea Party orgs didn’t have money to
    work with. ( and the IRS is still at it) Yes, voter suppression is alive and well. Again.. As long as the Left does it.

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  15. George Boardman Avatar

    Walt, you should be happy. Your gun stocks will go through the roof if Hillary wins because everybody knows the first thing she’ll try to do is suspend the Second Amendment.
    I heard that from a couple of Trump supporters the other day, so it must be true.

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  16. Gregory Avatar
    Gregory

    Boardman, I’ve heard from a Hillary supporter that you’re full of crap, so that must be true, too.
    The damage Hillary would do to the 2nd Amendment would be stacking the SCOTUS with Ginsberg clones itching to reverse D.C. v. Heller and, while they’re at it, stripping politically incorrect incorporated groups of people of their 1st Amendment rights.
    Hill could also do damage to the 2nd through Executive Orders Gone Wild! but only the SCOTUS can actually stab the 2nd in the back.

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  17. Walt Avatar

    To hell with the stocks. I’m buying the real hardware.
    You need to worry about health care. Remember those “death panels” that never were supposed to be? (which are already empanelled) You’re at that age where you will be in front of said panel, and Hillary will have them working overtime. ” Sorry Sir, your a little too old to spend money on. That young base jumper has a better chance of recovery than you do. The best we can do for you is this cheap pill that will speed up your trip to the grave.”
    That’s health care you have to look forward to if Hillary is elected.
    Obummercare is doing just as predicted. Just way sooner.

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  18. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    Hmm. The Great Divide. You go girl!
    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=yHgupsWefCM

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  19. Todd Juvinall Avatar

    Talk about anger? Today the IRS announced the arrest of 61 people for scamming 15,000 people out of 300 million dollars. How? Calling them and telling them they would be deported. Or they owed the IRS money and better pay up or go to the hoosegow.
    What I found funny about all this (besides I had some of these scam calls) is the IRS says it does not use those kinds of tactics. I thought, true, they confiscate your whole nak account, lien all your property nd toss you into jail right off the gitgo. And if you are Lois Lerner who screwed over thousands of conservative groups requests for 501’s, you get retirement, bonus and lifelong pension!

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