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223 responses to “Sandbox – 24apr16”
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Looks like Trump will be the nominee. Now we will see what the convention may bring. I have sent in my application for delegate. We will see if I am accepted.
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Todd Juvinall 27Apr16 08:09 AM
You are in no way libertarian, Todd. You are all about telling others what they can and cannot do.LikeLike
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Posted by: Brad C. 27Apr16 08:45 AM
The analogy between BHO labs and bathtub gin is perfect as are most aspects of the prohibitions of alcohols and marijuana.LikeLike
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‘Honey oil lab’ sounds a like a term that would be coined by law enforcement to scare the populous. In actuality, I don’t think MJ extraction is a whole lot more complex than an alcohol still. You are just trying to separate the THC/CBD from the ‘green matter’ with a suitable solvent. CO2 also works like butane but requires expensive equipment to do it right. It basically freezes the THC crystals so they break away from the plant and can be separated. The term ‘still’ would probably be more appropriate.
“Honey oil” was the term coined by those extracting and using the material. Appending “lab” on to the phrase describes that “chemistry” ,shoddy though it may be, is involved. Not exactly sure how this term is particularly “scary”?LikeLike
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Michael R. Kesti | 27 April 2016 at 09:01 AM
No you as usual are wrong. But what’s new?LikeLike
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Todd
Please extend you Libertarian leanings Todd to express your view on Gay marriage.LikeLike
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Fish, I should have put quotes around ‘lab’. The term ‘lab’ implies something different compared to ‘still’. Does alcohol ‘lab’ sound appropriate for an operation conducted under a tree with some old pots and pans by some crackers in overalls? Honey oil kitchen?
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maybe State Farm need to do a honey oil fire danger video to help out all the fools out there.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=EYkRF_FmD40LikeLike
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Posted by: Brad C. | 27 April 2016 at 09:58 AM
Hmmmm…..when you describe it like this “lab” does sound slightly nefarious.
“Honey Oil Kitchen”….too homey…it conjures images of a warm and inviting place where Graham Crackers are baked. “Still” while similarly explosive is the wrong type of equipment.
A difficult marketing problem for the modern illicit substance manufacturer!LikeLike
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Grandma’s honey oil kitchen? Time to register my new business name!
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fish 27Apr16 10:09 AM
I find the characterization as “honey” more disturbing than “lab.”LikeLike
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On a different topic it is ironic that the likely Repub candidate Donald Trump is heralding his opposition to Bush’s invasion of Iraq as a reason to support him contrasting to Hillarys support of the war. To quote Todd, “What a Hoot”
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Aunt Thelma’s slow cured honey oil skin moisturizer. Works great on those cracked heels and I can wear my sandals again in public! Great video Mr. Brad C. My dear mother had to toss the ole pressure cooker after an unexpected “there she blows” moment of excitement in the kitchen.
Now, back to whom to vote for. Is it who or whom?
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10154326154843296&set=a.10150341305093296.393388.786063295&type=3&theaterLikeLike
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Russ Steele has posted info on the new film ‘Climate Hustle’ that will be shown in the valley. Here’s the poop –
https://sierrafoothillcommentary.com/2016/04/26/climate-hustle/LikeLike
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Bessee- For a “patriot” who says he wants government out of our lives you sure seem eager to press for laws, laws and more laws. I, for one, get kind of put out by your kind when I have to stand in line then sign affidavits so I can by a blister pack of Pseudophed. You want weed outlawed and now butane canisters. Since Pseudophed was regulated the cost of meth has dropped 50%. After all the laws against weed, it is more available, higher strength, and vastly cheaper than at any time in history. Prohibitionary laws don’t work. I buy several cases of butane bottles each fall for our duck club to heat pit blinds. I don’t want to jump through another jackass hoop your kind so desperately want to erect. Get the hell out of my life.
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Bill Tozer 27Apr16 10:27 AM
…for whom to vote.LikeLike
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JonS. – Like many of our controlled pharmaceuticals, it is cheaper to get the stuff across the border in Canada/Mexico where most of the big meth labs, staffed by chemists (or at least someone who took a chemistry class in junior college), are located.
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Meth labs probably more common in Mexico than Canada – but who knows how many Breaking Bad wannabe Heisenbergs are out there?
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Posted by: Michael R. Kesti | 27 April 2016 at 10:20 AM
Why….when the solvent wafts away that which remains looks vaguely like honey.LikeLike
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What makes butane particularly dangerous for household hash oil factories is that, like propane, it’s heavier than air and tends to collect inside the house. I know where the propane drain is through my home’s foundation… do you? Just another building code. Keeps a propane leak from filling the crawl space with an explosive mixture of propane and air.
If there isn’t forced ventilation through the house forcing any escaping butane outside and downhill, they’re courting some serious Darwin Award notoriety. Budding pot distillers, if they can’t do the right thing by not doing it in residential areas, should at least install a window swamp cooler in a bedroom window and pressurize the house with outside air, and make sure there is airflow from there to the room with the butane on the opposite side of the house, with a on open window or even better, a screen door, which could let the butane flow out of the house where it would dissipate, assuming it doesn’t just collect outside the house.
Over time, Darwin generally wins.
Now, while I don’t believe in prohibition, making pot legal won’t be a ticket for local prosperity any more than the repeal of alcohol prohibition made moonshiners wealthy. Get set for Nevada County to become Appalachia West in the coming golden age for pot. We really would be better off were the growing culture as a stop for the Trimmigrant Underground Railroad, but prohibition is what brought it here and more prohibition will not make it go away.LikeLike
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What makes butane particularly dangerous for household hash oil factories is that, like propane, it’s heavier than air and tends to collect inside the house. I know where the propane drain is through my home’s foundation… do you? Just another building code. Keeps a propane leak from filling the crawl space with an explosive mixture of propane and air.
If there isn’t forced ventilation through the house forcing any escaping butane outside and downhill, they’re courting some serious Darwin Award notoriety. Budding pot distillers, if they can’t do the right thing by not doing it in residential areas, should at least install a window swamp cooler in a bedroom window and pressurize the house with outside air, and make sure there is airflow from there to the room with the butane on the opposite side of the house, with a on open window or even better, a screen door, which could let the butane flow out of the house where it would dissipate, assuming it doesn’t just collect outside the house.
Over time, Darwin generally wins.
Now, while I don’t believe in prohibition, making pot legal won’t be a ticket for local prosperity any more than the repeal of alcohol prohibition made moonshiners wealthy. Get set for Nevada County to become Appalachia West in the coming golden age for pot. We really would be better off were the growing culture as a stop for the Trimmigrant Underground Railroad, but prohibition is what brought it here and more prohibition will not make it go away.LikeLike
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….and in non pot related news…….enjoy the sweet, sweet music of political failure.
“Kathleen Matthews, wife of MSNBC host Chris Matthews, was trounced Tuesday evening in Maryland’s 8th Congressional District Democratic primary, but her husband’s employer made no mention this defeat in its election coverage.”
http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/article/2589692/
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…..the music will continue it seems…..only sadder now.
“Reports: Cruz to announce Fiorina as running mate”
Oh Carly….what were you thinking?
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/onpolitics/2016/04/27/ted-cruz-major-announcement/83589328/LikeLike
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fish 1212pm – Desperation time?
(BTW, are you still double spacing your paragraphs on purpose?)LikeLike
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Yes, who will be Trump or Hillary’s running mate? I don’t think Billary will want The Berner.
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Posted by: George Rebane | 27 April 2016 at 12:16 PM
I’m not sure desperation is an adequate term for what apparently has just happened. Cruz won’t be nominated…. not under the normal primary election rules as of last night and certainly not at a contested convention when the party hierarchy would certainly pick somebody more palatable to the established order….think Marco “Kid President” Rubio.
If Cruz is so determined to be chief executive he should have made his concession speech and skulked back to Texas to be any from the public eye for a while. The next prez is almost certain to be a one-termer and from a political standpoint Cruz is very young but his behavior over the last six weeks has been embarrassing from the breathy overly dramatic speeches to this empty gesture today.
Difficult to feel sorry for the guy.LikeLike
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fish, congratulations on figuring out what all Cruz’ Congressional colleagues figured out a few years ago. Drama and empty gestures- yup, that about sums up his tenure in the Senate as well. WTF- Carly Fiorina- was she going to energize more than a few of her friends and family? Unless Carly thinks this thing will recapture the lost political capitol and dignity, it remains simply a bizarre announcement. Trump will likely win the nomination after CA, making for a very uncomfortable convention with a huge swath of delegates having to fake enthusiasm. He’d have to figure out how to make every young voter, minority group, women demographic, and rational thinker stay home in November. Otherwise, toast for Hillary. 🙂
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Oh my. This can’t be good for Senator Cruz:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=jjPo_n5qRuALikeLike
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BillT. – Is the other guy Trump? The woman sure sounds a lot like his wife 😉 Maybe Trump watched a lot of Green Acres as a kid.
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Mr. Brad, it’s that voice of Mr. Hanney that sticks in my head. Like Chevy Chase playing the bumbling falling down Gerald Ford back when SLN was worth watching. Some things stick, some don’t. Golly, I can never listen to Sen. Cruz again without thinking of Mr. Hanney. But we all know who the real star of Green Acres was……My Gal!! She fills the void.
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Posted by: Bill Tozer | 27 April 2016 at 02:39 PM
Like Chevy Chase playing the bumbling falling down Gerald Ford back when SLN was worth watching.
They beat that bit to death …….
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Back under your bridge, TROLL (“jon”) If someone wanted your opinion, they would repeatedly drive a logging truck over your overpass.
Hillary is walking roadkill. If the FEDS don’t get her first, those who actually turn out to vote, will be the walking dead. Gen. Wuss who are propping up crazy Burnie sure as hell ain’t going to show for witchypoo.LikeLike
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Well, Fish and Brad, you try listening to Cruz without thinking of Mr. Hanney or try listening to Hillary without thinking of Arnold Ziffle the star pig, not to mention contemplating taking an ice pick to your temples.
Now, on to stuff that makes perfect sense. Link one or link two? Which one is the least surprising? The most surprising? Or not surprising considering precedent? Old news?
http://www.wsj.com/articles/just-37-of-u-s-high-school-seniors-prepared-for-college-math-and-reading-test-shows-1461729661
http://college.usatoday.com/2016/04/27/black-students-connected-in-su-racist-drawing/LikeLike
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http://www.ca6.uscourts.gov/opinions.pdf/16a0069p-06.pdf
George: Have seen this case from the Sixth Circuit? I am admittedly not paying attention to politics at all right now as work has been very busy. A fellow local attorney pointed this case out to me.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/volokh-conspiracy/wp/2016/03/22/sixth-circuit-loses-patience-with-the-irs/
“Today, nearly 1,050 days since the start of the IRS scandal triggered by allegations that the IRS unlawfully and unethically targeted tea party and other conservative organizations for special scrutiny, the litigation continues. One allegedly targeted group brought suit against the IRS for its conduct, and the IRS has resisted the litigation with the same dilatory tactics that infuriated members of Congress.”
“In the latest development, a federal district court ordered the IRS to turn over information concerning groups that were subject to the mistreatment identified by the agency’s inspector general. The IRS didn’t like this and is now seeking a writ of mandamus in order to avoid having to disclose more information. The U.S. Court of Appeals for the 6th Circuit is not amused.”LikeLike
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Don, April 26, 7:39 You sure are full of yourself! Of course, illegal growers who are forced inside are not going to follow the rules so YES, expect more fires. The problems outlned in the article are still relevant today.
And I’m thrilled that you will be on the debate stage so you can make your ridiculous claims that everyone knows are baloney. I have asked that Forrest Hurd be added to the panel because there is no one representing patients. And last time I looked MEDICAL cannaibis is the only thing that is legal right now.LikeLike
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Hay “Walt” 4:06pm, many consider you to be a troll on boards like this, and others via your old sockpuppet. So lets dispense with the phony bombast, k?
Your money is on Drumpf. Any other news? Check out the polls and let us know when you spot Drumpf anywhere close to 50% of the GENERAL ELECTORATE? You know, there is a slight difference between the Primary and General, right?LikeLike
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Me? Troll? Never ever been accused of that. Never seen it in print. Nice try. Another proofless jab by our overpass underdweller.
Patricia. The growers NEVER followed the rules to begin with. Hence the new ordnance
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Pattie you are being disingenuous, you know full well that the LWV told you guys that the forum is set and there will be no changes. Gee I couldn’t imagine why you would want a lopsided 2 v 1 grower dominated forum. 😉
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Todd, marihuana talk brings out the best of the rest. Just the smaller floaters the guy who cleans out the porta-potty missed. I take it Joe Sixpack is in the anti-W camp, but I could be wrong. Trolls are getting a bit restless. Is it a full moon in Nevada City again?
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Administrivia – I deleted a couple of comments by some sackhead who calls himself “joe.sixpack”. They looked like gratuitous slander to me. Words like “pervert” are should not be tossed around without substantiation of alleged “sordid deeds and convictions”. Nuff said.
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Whoo Boy Howdy, George. I was just sayin what bessee`s arrest record consisted of… and what his mental convictions were. Truth is never slander. Please examine this contributors past.
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I
ll leave out pervert. Does SAM or the NCRP know what bessee has been accused of doing in regard to a certain childrens soccer team? The entire team? And how many restraining orders have been filed against him? More than any other resident of Nevada County, since it`s inception? This is public record. Slander, indeed.LikeLike
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Marihuana? No worries, I can’t spell it either.
https://www.ncscooper.com/area-woman-cant-spell-medical-marijuana/LikeLike
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All the local pro pot crew had been heavily invested in one of 17 proposed ballot propositions for Nov. The favorite of the local Bernie bros and commercial pot grows was the hemp imitative. Its window to submit signatures ended last week. Alas it never even came close so now we will have the big tobacco 2.0 Parker full industrial commercialization of Recreational weed on the ballot. Ask the 26 of the first 31 municipal entities in CO who went full commercial and then reversed course how great that was for their home owners. If legalization in CO was voted on today it would not pass.
Note to joe sixpack, I will be sure to share your concerns with the Sheriff, DEA Regional Director and so on. Whats your address?
Protect our Property Values, Water, Envionment and Wildlife. VOTE YES ON WLikeLike
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Been doing some looking about the accusations. None to be found.
The way this county works, the first hint of “something like that”, and being in the spotlight as much as Don has been, any dirt like that would be smeared all over The union, and KVMR.
Funny. another TROLL just tried to tar and feather me with no evidence what so ever.. How bout some reputable proof.LikeLike
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Speaking of proof, Bill,, you can take the ball gag out of “jon’s” pie hole.
http://dailycaller.com/2016/04/27/democratic-strategist-trump-will-beat-hillary-like-a-baby-seal/
It’s not so rosy for the hag. Love it. “Beat like a baby seal?. Now There is confidence
Hillary is a winner.
you should know that feeling, you know, getting beat like a redheaded bastard stepchild of a rented mule every time you show up.LikeLike
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I
m sure the sheriff already knows of your transgressions, bessee. Which makes me ask, why does he associate with you? Are you denying that you havent had a little spat with a certain children`s soccer club? And that there were not certain legal repercussions? And how about your half hour video to a certain foe of yours, filmed in your bathroom?LikeLike
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Since they are so verklempt lets just pull the bandaid off fast.
EDUCATIONAL EVENTS TO COME!
TUESDAY MAY 10th In The Board of Supervisors Chambers there will be an educational presentation about the FACTS About Marijuana In Nevada County. 6:30pm
TUESDAY MAY 10th 2 PM Sierra College and the Tahoe-Truckee Future Without Drug Dependence are Presenting SAM National President Dr. Kevin Sabet’s presentation on Drug Policy and Marijuana. Opening remarks and event introduction by Nevada County Sheriff Keith Royal and Northern California SAM Executive Director Don Bessee. It will be followed by a panel discussion including the Truckee Police Chief.LikeLike
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I`m sure you are friends with the sheriff and the DEA, Bessee. Is that the reason you were able to plea bargain down?
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Gee joe you capitalized my name, didn’t know you cared. 😉
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