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Sandbox – 9jan16

09 January 2016

[These sandboxes sure fill up fast with a variety of topics tucked between the mudballs. One regular commenter made an interesting remark that bears more consideration – under what conditions is it possible for a mixture of devout Muslims and non-Muslims to live in close proximity – e.g. the same neighborhood? gjr]

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199 responses to “Sandbox – 9jan16”

Jon

12 January 2016

Apparently you’re confused. I very much hope he gets the nod from the GOP. Looks like he will. Anyone in his way like Cruz or Rubio- he will pull out his Catskills comedy/insult routine. There are more idiots voting in the GOP primary than I ever imagined.
He won’t be elected President. Zero chance.

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fish

12 January 2016

Posted by: Bill Tozer | 12 January 2016 at 07:11 AM
Oh Bill….sounds like someone is flirting with being called “angry” again by that certain someone.
….and we all know how devastating that can be.

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Bill Tozer

12 January 2016

Russ @ 7:04. Stay on top of this one. Acorn, PP doing unspeakable horrific things for money, and now CC. Mama always said that money is not evil, but the love of money is the root of all evil. How timely. They love money too much, just like some NGOs.

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Bill Tozer

12 January 2016

Fish @ 7:30 am on the nose:
Well, us old farts can be grumpy if not a wee bit angry. Not as angry as BLM, or Occupy Wall Street (Oakland Style), or the gun control freakazoids, but angry just the same, without tossing Starbucks umbrellas and patio furniture through business’s windows. The whole mood of the electorate is quite angry, poll after poll after poll clearly states. The only ones not angry work in DC. Confused and puzzled, but not angry.
Now, get this: new polling shows that it’s the Republican Women who are the angriest. Yep, the R women folk take spot on da pissed off list. Something to do with leaving their children worse off than they are, the economy, and security issues. Women like safe secure nests for some reason and really are concerned about their children’s future. Yes, it’s silly but no use trying to placate them with words.
When Momma ain’t happy, then no one is happy. An angry woman makes life unpleasant, which makes me angry. Little jon is correct once again!!

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fish

12 January 2016

‘We told you so,’ Eastern Europe tells Germany
Ahhhh…… the sweetest four words in any language! The best part, of course, will be watching the progressive “jons” of the world going from critics of “rape kulture” to rape apologists as the positioning on the leader board of victims is changed.
I tell ya it’s a great time to be alive!

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fish

12 January 2016

Sorry lads…..”sugar freed” the link!
http://www.thelocal.de/20160112/eastern-europe-feels-vindicated-after-cologne-attacks?utm_medium=twitter&utm_source=twitterfeed

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Bill Tozer

12 January 2016

Oh Fish, it’s just like the rapes on any given night in your nearby Sacramento, the Capital City. Keep these non-criminal acts in prespective, will ya.
https://www.facebook.com/RowdyConservatives/photos/a.217983685002343.55586.217926015008110/776517639148942/?type=3&theater
Besides, liberals aren’t too good at math, which may explain their skewed view.
https://www.facebook.com/RowdyConservatives/photos/a.217983685002343.55586.217926015008110/776380905829282/?type=3&theater

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George Rebane

12 January 2016

Re the death of coal debate. The careful reader will again notice that left-leaners like Jon and Mr Boardman hang on to their beliefs without addressing any of the factual responses. In this comment stream RussS again points out that the worldwide use of coal continues to increase, while Walt’s 855pm cites that Soros, one of the world’s most astute investors (and a Leftie himself), has gone all in on coal. The local left responds with crickets, and either restates their belief of simply changes the subject.
Were it that coal is the only issue for which this tactic is used. The comment streams of RR (now numbering well over 70K comments) are replete with countless examples of this tactic on literally all issues. The final solution for them is never presenting an alternative line of reasoning that can then stand next to an opposing one, thereby leaving the reader informed and possible resolved, but simply to claim victory and quit the field.

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fish

12 January 2016

Posted by: Bill Tozer | 12 January 2016 at 08:38 AM
Mutti…..Krazy Kat Lady for an entire continent!

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George Boardman

12 January 2016

I never suggested coal is dead, but it has become the new tobacco.
The DJ Coal Index is down 94 percent since 2010, and as this article from Forbes suggests, Soros may be more interested in covering a successful short and playing the bounce off a short squeeze than he is in investing in coal.
http://www.forbes.com/sites/thomaslandstreet/2015/08/28/soros-doesnt-like-coal-stocks-he-likes-money/
With abundant natural gas cheaper than coal and omitting half the pollutants, it’s not likely coal will make a comeback in the U.S. The rest of the civilized world will eventually follow.

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Jon

12 January 2016

“PP doing unspeakable horrific things for money”
What are the horrific things? Nothing horrific has been found.

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fish

12 January 2016

Tax dollars……productively used!

“Homeland Security Asking Hotel Staff to Report Customers for Too Many Condoms”

http://reason.com/blog/2016/01/12/homeland-security-asking-hotel-staff-to

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Gregory

12 January 2016

This is probably worth a rumination… O’Keefe and Project Veritas catching people in the act a’gin… this time, Common Core textbook publishers on their motivation. Someone even got fired.
“I hate kids” is probably a sentiment that a textbook sales director should keep to themselves.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3394331/Textbook-sales-leader-says-national-Common-Core-education-standards-money.html

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George Rebane

12 January 2016

GeorgeB 1012am – Perhaps so on Soros; good clarification. But given the state of the developing world, and their sooner than later desire for their place in the sun, I would cast a gimlet eye on the duration of “eventually” at which time such countries will follow our lead.
Does anyone care to predict when the world’s consumption of coal will peak??

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drivebyposter

12 January 2016

http://www.hubbertpeak.com/coal/images/HubbertCoalCurve2007.png

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fish

12 January 2016

We should really give some serious consideration to the notion of “World Government”!
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/africa/un-says-some-of-its-peacekeepers-were-paying-13-year-olds-for-sex/2016/01/11/504e48a8-b493-11e5-8abc-d09392edc612_story.html
I’m mean really…..The UN is clearly an unalloyed good!

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drivebyposter

12 January 2016

chart o’ the day (from Zero Hedge).
German Google stats on search for ‘pepper spray’.
http://www.zerohedge.com/sites/default/files/images/user92183/imageroot/2016/01/PepperSpray.png

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drivebyposter

12 January 2016

Here’s the top sellers in the German Amazon Sports & Leisure category:
http://www.amazon.de/gp/bestsellers/sports/ref=pd_zg_hrsr_sg_1_1
There has got to be a business opportunity here.

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Todd Juvinall

12 January 2016

Naked links are a pain in the arse.

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George Rebane

12 January 2016

Gregory 1022am – Sounds worthy. I await your emailed byline on the topic which will be posted forthwith.

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Walt

12 January 2016

What’s the cheapest way to move Nat. gas Boardman? Yup, a pipeline. The ECO bastards are not big on pipelines. Neither are the NIMBYs.
In the mean time, untold numbers of LP gas trains role on through sleepy little towns, and now and then fall off the tracks. I would prefer a coal train to derail than a gas train.
I see you ignored the Soros info. (as usual)

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Walt

12 January 2016

Nope, my mistake. You did hit on it. You don’t invest a piss pot full of money for a small short term gain.

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Jon

12 January 2016

Walt, there are many hundreds of thousands of miles of Nat Gas pipelines running all over the USA. More planned, no ECOs stopping them. If you have the misfortune to live in Texas, you know all about them. Nat Gas is abundant, cheap and much cleaner than coal. Plants are retrofitting to gas every day. Equally as important, human beings in North America and Europe are done with coal and the impacts on their health and the air and earth.
Coal in North America and Europe is dead. Thanks.

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George Rebane

12 January 2016

driveby 108pm – from your OECD data, the production of coal will peak around 2025, then flatten out for about ten years before beginning to decline. I take it that you agree with them. Anyone else?

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Bill Tozer

12 January 2016

Well boys and lady, do they have natural gas north of Spraks yet, or up Banner Mountain or Red Dog?
Back to the fun.
Yo little jon:
https://www.facebook.com/FreePatriotPost/photos/pb.1595723550651430.-2207520000.1452649858./1644822112408240/?type=3&theater
Saw this and thought of you, good buddy:
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2016/01/12/my-night-with-the-world-s-first-bionic-penis.html
Now, where are those who are so offended by the coarse phrase “turd eater”? Oh yeah, it was Paul. He is the only one from that group that is still standing.
https://www.facebook.com/RowdyConservatives/photos/a.217983685002343.55586.217926015008110/776481005819272/?type=3&theater

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drivebyposter

12 January 2016

“I take it that you agree with them.” GR 5:39
To tell you the truth, I don’t know. Since I’m not an analyst in that area, it’s not a matter I have strong opinions on.
It doesn’t strike me as a bad starting point for an estimate, though. I very much doubt that any kind of pollution or CO2 based public policy will have much affect on usage. It’ll be more a matter of depletion + higher marginal cost for extraction combined with the interplay with semi-fungible items like natgas (and their own depletion).
I’d like to find a full cycle coal production curve for a completely played-out area to see if those Hubbert curves might reflect reality at all.

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Walt

12 January 2016

Wow “jon”,, Texas… BFD! There is a reason LWW isn’t plumbed for gas. PG&E wanted every lot to pay BIG bucks just to lay the pipe, then pay another huge fee for the connection service.(about 20 grand per lot) PG&E was told to f*ck off.
There is a gas main running down the county road I live near. They want 10 grand for a connection fee. ( Nope, NOT going to happen.)
It’s best you keep your trap shut on things you don’t have a clue about.
Laying vast amounts of gas line isn’t cheap, and takes years to plan and permit.

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George Rebane

12 January 2016

driveby 651pm – I understand. Re the “full cycle production curve”, that may be of use were the world currently at ‘peak coal’. But since additional coal deposits can be discovered at will, and the present reserves will last longer than any contemplated need for coal, I believe it will be demand and not availability that will determine coal consumption. I’m reminded of the same arguments that were made for ‘peak oil’ twenty plus years ago, the predictions for which were quickly made moot by the discovery of vast new deposits (and more yet to come).

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Todd Juvinall

12 January 2016

The Yapper in Chief was sure full of it tonight. If you listened to him you would think he was not there for the seven years. But those low info journalists and voters think his crease in his pants is the cat’s meow.

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Jon

12 January 2016

Hay Walt, yes Texas- the place is crawling with pipelines. And yes, there are hundreds of thousands of miles of pipelines in the US, in place and operational. I’m very familiar with several of the entities operating them, and the various networks. I lived literally a stone’s throw from the most important gas pipe running into the Northeast corridor. Seems you don’t really understand the distinction between local service lines and gathering, processing systems and long transmission pipelines. What’s your gripe again? LOL.
Did you watch the President tonight. SPOT ON. Great speech (or as you may know it – great speach).

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Walt

12 January 2016

Got it. Texas kicked you out, and replaced you with a Conservative.
OK.. so you lived next to a pipe. Again… BIG deal…. And we are to be impressed that your “familiar” with “entities”? LOL! PG&E is an “entity”..
I have put PLENTY of pipe in the ground in my life. It’s not cheap no matter what the pipe is filled with.
Here is a news flash for ya’. Distribution is the name of the game. You can’t sell it to people who don’t have a gas pipe running to the house or business.
Without new infrastructure, just where is all that supply going to go? And charging the crap out of people to do it is not the way.
With new construction, gas lines are a given. But what about all the existing non users?
OK genius YOU start your own gas Co. and supply the unsupplied. There is PLENTY of that gas, and there are PLENTY who want it and can’t get it. Here is your chance to be a millionaire.

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drivebyposter

13 January 2016

GR 8:21
I admit that I find the Hubbert curves an attractive idea, perhaps they make too much sense and thus are wrong. Humans are overly good at seeing faces in clouds.
For a given field, they seem to map pretty well. North Sea oil yields are a nice example. No doubt there are secondary bumps from changes in technology…or alternately, the curve is compressed due to more modern extraction techniques.
In any case, energy is an interesting thing to watch. It’s not a bad approximation to wealth levels in a country (and is only partly offset by increases in efficiency) and is under heavy stress due to large scale immigration to the First World.
Failing some breakthrough in technology (Mr. Fusion units at home or Nathan Lewis’ notion of ‘solar paint’), my own guess is an ongoing need to extract every bit of energy via mined sources as population and demand for electricity/heat/transport increases. Finite sources will come up against an ever increasing wave of humanity.
Of course, all bets are off if a huge discontinuity occurs. Carrington Flare II, serious AI, or an interregnum caused by the West being converted into a metastasized version of Yugoslavia because of mass movement of peoples might all put the hurt on Western Civ 2.0
If the caldera ever erupts, I just hope I can get someone to hold my beer.

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Jon

13 January 2016

Hay Walt, foaming at the mouth before bed is not good. The President must have hit a nerve with ya :).
..still not sure what you’re all in a tizzy about..
Join us this weekend at the Wild and Scenic. Thousands of your fellow ECOs and many full blown ECO ACTIVISTS will be in both towns, eating, drinking and being good stewards of our local economy. Give it a try, and learn something along the way!

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Bill Tozer

13 January 2016

Hey, I am going to Dr. Martin Luther King Day celebrations all weekend. Only a hater and bigoted racist would go to a stupid movie rah-rah weekend instead of honoring this great man who has a National Holiday of Remembrance after him. Shame on those who hype this lame event without even mentioning Dr. King.
Walt was right again. Wild and Scenic sounds like a porn movie festival. I bet it is packed with white people showcasing their white devil privilege and white devil thought processes.. Shame. White folks driving snobby white devil Priuses? No thanks. I stand with Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr.

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Jon

13 January 2016

Doing both Billy. Thanks.
Did you catch the President talking about you last night? His smackdown of angry voices was perfect. Also liked Nikki Haley’s direct shot at your guy. A brave woman.

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Walt

13 January 2016

“Wild and scenic”? When did N.C. get a strip joint?
In other news,, the dope gang is not happy. I didn’t see where Paul (dope advocate) was mentioned in the Union for speaking up. Did he?

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Walt

13 January 2016

Yup,, like I thought. the “jon” gushing over Obummer. There, was some porn for “jon”.

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fish

13 January 2016

Posted by: Walt | 13 January 2016 at 09:49 AM
Now be nice Walt……jon is still waiting for the ones that he’s been waiting for….or some such campaign nonsense that political campaigns spew to mesmerize the gullible.

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Jon

13 January 2016

LOL. OK Walt. Best to hole up in your heavily fortified abode and wait out the flood of ECOs around Nevada County the next several days. We’ll forge ahead on our priorities and be inspired. Last night was a great start to the week and weekend!

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George Rebane

13 January 2016

More to be said about the MJ ordnance doings at the Rood Center yesterday. I’ve never seen the place so crowded with cars parked in the grassy field and for a mile up and down Hwy 49. Lot of people spoke after the extended presentation that featured about every imaginable county and state department on the topic of permitting outside grows.
Pascal at YubaNet has a very good blow-by-blow of the gathering –
http://yubanet.com/regional/Live-BOS-Grow-Ban.php#.VpabqZB4e_4

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Walt

13 January 2016

“Great start”? Whatever ya’ say dude.
I can see it now. N.C. get’s invaded with ECO buggys, and soon there after the pot smoke will look more like a fog bank. (in protest…” Da man can’t bust us all!)

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Walt

13 January 2016

Note to Patricia Smith. You said “prohibition ended”. To a point,, yes. Ever been back East? Ever hear of “dry counties”? You can’t buy booze in a “dry county”.

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Bill Tozer

13 January 2016

Little jon @ 09:38am
Yes, she is a brave woman. And her parents are Indians from India. She is brave because she chose to speak from the sinking ship known as the Republican Establishment. She is under the delusion (like all establishment Republican insiders) that 1) blame Repubicans for the Party’s troubles connecting with the voters and 2) if you are really nice to the Dems, the libs will suddenly like the Republicans. LOL! What nonsense. The left will always hate, abhor, and have their spinning heads explode rather than ever like a conservative. Never happen.
Let the brave damsel in distress either walk the plank or go down with the ship. We conservatives will not shed a tear, even if she (like Gov. Bobby J) are India Indians which we find intelligent peaceful people who don’t yell Allah is Great before murdeting innocent civilians, including precious little children.
Look little jon, the Republican Establishment does not like the Tea Party nor ever ever welcomed them/us under the big tent. They treat Trump the same way, as well as Cruz. They only care about “The Republican Establishment”. Looking at the latest trends over the last 4-5 years, us rats have left that ship and are not going back.
Rejoice over a Rhino being a Rhino to your heart’s content. Jeb! might be your alternative cup of tea, but not us true believers of conservatism. Burn the Establishment Party down. Darn the torpedoes, full steam ahead.

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Bill Tozer

13 January 2016

Walt, there was a run on extension cords at all the local hardware stores at the last Wild and Scenic Picnic Fest. That’s good for business, bad for the grid..

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Jon

13 January 2016

Oh vay there, Big Billy! That’s what the USA needs- tough talk and tough guys like you! Maybe a little carpet bombing of civilians (and RHINOS) for good measure!
USA USA USA! LOL.

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Don Bessee

13 January 2016

Dr. R, I would normally complain about spending the day on those oh so unforgiving seats in the BOS chamber but then you had to settle for a folding chair in the lobby. 😉

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Bill Tozer

13 January 2016

Little jon @ 12:48
Hey, you are still stuck with Hillary. Tough talk must always be accompanied with action. Otherwise, it would be like the little boy who called wolf. A little carpet bombing of Rhinos has been going on for awhile if you would bother to pull your head out of Air America’s poop chute and the NYT. Maybe you should come up for air.
Funny, how I say the Peaceful India Indian US Citizen whatzhername is aboard a sinking ship and you go straight to carpet bombing civilians. How odd. How predictable. How so very consistent with our brethren from The Good Side. How Progressive of you.
Putting that weird comment about carpet bombing civil civilians aside, a loophole has been exposed. And by a hard working woman who is married to a “colored Dutchman”.
Ah, criticizing Big Government Big Brother’s immigration is illegal with severe swift responses, this woman found a loophole in the law that the best of the best considered ironclad.
http://news.yahoo.com/austrian-bar-bans-asylum-seekers-alleged-harassment-153458944.html

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Bill Tozer

13 January 2016

Good grief. Last year I had all these crazy out of towners riding my bumper as they raced to attend the Hope and Change Film Fest. I forgot about all those Volvos and Subraus tailgating me like they were late for their saving the whale blubber fest.
It bothered me a bit, but I have learned to slow down and turn my rear view mirror down, which really pisses them off. What, are they late for a nap or something?
Finally, a non-violent way to deal with tailgaters descending on our Hills of Health this weekend. Bet not a single one attends the more important MLK event after saving the mosquitos. But, I always prefer non violence as one of many options to choose from.
https://www.facebook.com/StraightJacketShenanigans/videos/742346929198786/?theater

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Walt

13 January 2016

One of our Lefties will need a new place to get his news.
Look who is going boobs up!
http://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/2016/01/13/al-jazeera-america-to-shut-down-in-april-report-says/?intcmp=hpbt4
And here we thought CNN would be the first to go dark.

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Don Bessee

13 January 2016

Walt 316. Whats a ‘jon’ to do? Taps playing in the background. Sunset picture, fade to black. LOL 😉

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