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Sandbox – 9jan16

09 January 2016

[These sandboxes sure fill up fast with a variety of topics tucked between the mudballs. One regular commenter made an interesting remark that bears more consideration – under what conditions is it possible for a mixture of devout Muslims and non-Muslims to live in close proximity – e.g. the same neighborhood? gjr]

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199 responses to “Sandbox – 9jan16”

drivebyposter

11 January 2016

A nice example of news manipulation by Drudge this morning.
A little block of stories involving the troubles in Europe.
. GERMAN OFFICIAL: 10 Million More Migrants Headed for Europe…
. Vigilante revenge attacks for sex assaults…
. Swedish Police Under Investigation for Cover Up…
. Lights go out in night clubs…
The first three are a reasonable grouping, but if you look at the last story (in the Economist), it has nothing to do with the ongoing invasion (and their frisky behavior).
Between sins of omission by news aggregators, editorials masked as news, censorship/outright shutdown of newspaper comments, and widespread political censorship by the social media giants, ya can’t trust nobody.

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Bill Tozer

11 January 2016

Closer to home, there is help for those suffering in the Berkeley of the Foothills.
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/features/6852866/New-freeze-dried-poo-pills-could-be-the-answer-to-obesity.html

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Russ Steele

11 January 2016

Obama seeks to become next U.N. Secretary General
I always thought that Obama was just doing an internship for UN Secretary-General position, so many of his decision and speeches did not make sense. But, when you consider his ambitions, they a little made more sense.
According to the Kuwaiti newspaper Al-Jarida, Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu will join with regional Muslim governments to sabotage rumored plans by President Barack Obama to succeed the current United Nations Secretary-General, Korean diplomat Ban Ki-Moon, who finalizes his term on December 31, 2016. Quoting sources that said that the president has discussed his ambitions with Republicans and fellow Democrats.
President Do Nothing at the head of UN, what could go wrong? Oh!
http://www.speroforum.com/a/CQPEUADYXQ53/77059-Obama-seeks-to-become-next-UN-Secretary-General?

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George Rebane

11 January 2016

RussS 1001am – Well, that would make a lot of sense to head up the world’s largest corrupt institution. After having put America into a nose dive, why not tackle the whole world next? It’s most certainly worth a try to head up the implementation of UN’s Agenda 21.

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Russ Steele

11 January 2016

opps
My last post should read “they make a little made more sense.”

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Jon

11 January 2016

As I was saying..
Coal is over in the US. Dead. Never to be resurrected as anything resembling a big industry. Good riddance.
http://www.wsj.com/articles/arch-coal-files-for-bankruptcy-1452500976

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fish

11 January 2016

I tell you Bill our Hillary……much like the Cincinnati Bengals is going to find a way to blow this in the final seconds!

“The FBI is particularly on edge in the wake of how the case of former CIA Director David Petraeus was handled.
One of the three sources said some FBI agents felt Petraeus was given a slap on the wrist for sharing highly classified information with his mistress and biographer Paula Broadwell, as well as lying to FBI agents about his actions. Petraeus pleaded guilty to a misdemeanor in March 2015 after a two-plus-year federal investigation in which Attorney General Eric Holder initially declined to prosecute.
In the Petraeus case, the exposure of classified information was assessed to be limited.
By contrast, in the Clinton case, the number of classified emails has risen to at least 1,340. A 2015 appeal by the State Department to challenge the “Top Secret” classification of at least two emails failed and, as Fox News first reported, is now considered a settled matter.”

Orange….it’s the new Black.

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Don Bessee

11 January 2016

Baffled by the js story. Why would you use hemp oil from a dispensary when the FDA has already approved the CBD MS drug Sativex? Its been on the market for awhile for MS spasticity. Its a pure, dose controlled oral spray with proven results. At a public event last week I had a guy tell me he cured cancer with his pure cbd product he made in a crock pot.

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George Rebane

11 January 2016

jon 1050am – Yes, it is possible for the government gun to kill an industry. And easier still when cheaper alternatives are available and/or the original market is down due to a bad economy. However, were that not the case, then …

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jon smith

11 January 2016

Beese- 1/11/16 11:27
A short while ago you said that marijuana has no medical use. Just yesterday you said that CBD was not available in a pure form. When will your lies stop? Guess you gotta say what you gotta say to sway the uninformed.
Nabiximols (of which Sativex is one of many) are CBD potentiated with various ratios of THC and sometimes another adjunct. Yes, it may be more therapeutic than CBD alone but I don’t like the effect of THC. I’ve heard that as many as 25% of the users of Nabiximols quit because of the side effects. The reason you don’t see pure CBD being sold by big pharma is that they can’t patent it. By adding a second ingredient they can patent and own the drug.

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Russ Steele

11 January 2016

jon, call your office, NOAA is surprised by the facts, planet cooling slightly and Greenland snow accumulating.
The preliminary data from UAH and RSS [satellite data] shows that 2015 was the third warmest year since the measurements began in 1978, and thus did not set a new record. A reanalysis of the global 2m temperature from CFSv2 measured a positive deviation from the mean of 0.27 K, but put the year 2015 only in 6th place
A big surprise for many has been the ice growth measured in Greenland since 2014. Moreover the Greenland ice sheet has grown some 300 km³ since September 1, 2015
– See graphics and link to NOAA Report at: http://notrickszone.com/2016/01/09/data-surprise-global-temperature-continues-stall-polar-ice-and-snow-cover-continue-surprising-growth/#sthash.3ObSHuU9.dpuf

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Russ Steele

11 January 2016

jon@10:50AM
jon, coal is dead? Well if you want to believe that you are welcome. Here are some facts: http://cdn2.vox-cdn.com/assets/4632955/global_coal_consumption.png
Question: Do you know how to do in-depth research on the Internet? If you do, why do you make comments that are easly refuted?

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Gregory

11 January 2016

Oral arguments today on Friedrichs v. California Teachers Organization
http://www.sacbee.com/news/business/article54075115.html
Most reports are that it’s looking bleak for the CTA and all other public employee unions.

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Russ Steele

11 January 2016

Storm Clouds Form: Bob Woodward Compares Hillary Scandal to Watergate
Hillary Clinton’s e-mail scandal has been a difficult one for the public to understand and for journalists to explain. But Bob Woodward, the Washington Post reporter who helped uncover Watergate 40 years ago, clarified things a lot on Fox News Sunday today when he said that an e-mail in the most recently released batch shows Hillary trying to “subvert the rules” that she expected others to follow.
Read more at: http://www.nationalreview.com/article/429526/hillarys-e-mail-scandal-grows-latest-batch-shows-she-broke-rules-again

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George Rebane

11 January 2016

RussS 1259pm – The Global Warmers continue to disparage the recent pause in global warming by citing a temperature record that purportedly ‘shows no pause’. What are the two contending temperature records which each side favors?

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drivebyposter

11 January 2016

“Most reports are that it’s looking bleak for the CTA and all other public employee unions.”
I would guess that the public employee unions would just provide for direct payment to themselves in the next contract if non-payment were to become a problem.

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Gregory

11 January 2016

FYI
http://www.scotusblog.com/2016/01/union-fees-in-jeopardy-in-plain-english/
driveby, don’t be silly. That isn’t done now even in the half of the states that don’t force the payments Friedrichs et al are protesting, or in the Federal system.

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Gregory

11 January 2016

GR, don’t focus too much on the current satellite record as it’s sure to rise this year, thanks to the strong El Nino. I’d personally be surprised if it spikes as high as the ’98 event, but I will be surprised if a significant cooling does not follow.

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Jon

11 January 2016

Funny thing Russ, there is kind of a consensus on the death of Big Coal, at least in the Western World. Done plenty of research, as has Wall Street.
http://www.ft.com/cms/s/3/2b396516-a4e4-11e5-97e1-a754d5d9538c.html

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Gregory

11 January 2016

Jon/Jeff 2:34
A kind of consensus that allows the major user a couple decades of increasing use before it has promised (non binding) that it will level off that far into the future
http://www.reuters.com/article/us-column-russell-climatechange-summit-a-idUSKBN0TX03T20151214
The west will turn on the Paris deal in a New York minute if the AGW story collapses, and the coal won’t go anywhere in the meantime. It will be dug up and used in the world as long as it remains economically viable.

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Paul Emery

11 January 2016

I have to give Don Bessee credit for having to the courage to appear in fromt of our local Tea Party pleading the case for more government regulations and restrictions on free commerce. His support of the ban on out door grows in Nevada County are totally contrary to the Tea Parties principals of three guiding principles that give rise to the freedom necessary to pursue and live the American Dream:
Personal Freedom
Economic Freedom
Debt-Free Future

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Walt

11 January 2016

“jon” and his anti coal crap. Just wait till Trump is in the W.H. Trump gets to put HIS person in charge of the EPA. Watch the anti coal regs. get gutted, and cheap power is put back on line.

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Gregory

11 January 2016

Paul, as long as you’re back, not long ago you made a long post about those nasty Serbians (and the perps were evil) slaughtering peace loving Bosnian Muslims (at the time widely considered to be Moslem Croats). I provided some of the Serb story, including evidence that Croats in general slaughtered hundreds of thousands of Serbs in their flagship death camp during WWII, and Moslem Bosnians themselves formed the core of the first foreign Waffen-SS unit, swearing fealty to Hitler, and in a Serbs Gone Wild! episode after Croat strongman Tito had death ease his grip on Serbia, committed war crimes and crimes against humanity in an ugly attempt to reverse their subjugations.
No comments? Thoughts?

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Jon

11 January 2016

Hay Walt, MY anti-coal crap? 🙂 Apparently governments, power companies and investors around the world need to listen up to you and Russ! Your wishful “sage” wisdom is apparently being ignored by millions around the globe.
Best of luck on your dreams of a Trump dictatorship. LOL.

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Paul Emery

11 January 2016

Gregory
I included that reference to illustrate that mans inhumanity to man has no religious boundaries.

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drivebyposter

11 January 2016

Gregory @ 2:20
If it hasn’t happened thus far, I don’t suppose that it will. But what I was imagining was a union contract where the government body directly pays the union itself as one of the stipulations. If both sides are willing (a majority of the union members + a bought and paid for gubmint), there’s a certain sense in cutting out the middle man.
What I’d like to track down somewhere is a good explanation of why some of the larger unions haven’t been hit by antitrust law. Perhaps it’s as simple as the law (and subsequent court decisions) wording, but if you have to be a ‘corporation’ to fall under that kind of restriction, why not set up a church or giant charity that has the sole ownership of some asset or the other? In any case, worrying about monopolies has fallen into the same memory hole as reasonable IP law.

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Russ Steele

11 January 2016

George@2:00PM
The left is in favor of the NOAA report as it shows the pause does not exist. They did that by modifying the ocean temperature data taken from ships and buoys cooling the data before 2000, to show an increase in temperature during the pause. Again, tampering with the data for political purposes. Obama needed some “no pause data” for his Paris Climate Change Talks.
The skeptics prefer the satellite data which covers the whole planet, land and ocean. NASA and NOAA do not get to adjust the satellite for any reason. There are two sources of satellite data, that agree with some minor differences. Trends are the same, only the magnitude changes slightly. The UAH dataset is prepared at the University of Alabama in Huntsville and the RSS dataset is prepared by Remote Sensing Systems. The satellite data has been validated using balloon radiosonde measurements. It is not stored or maintained by NOAA.
Readers interested in the scientific details, including some interactive graphics showing the magnitude of the NOAA changes can go here: https://bobtisdale.wordpress.com/2014/12/22/quick-look-at-the-data-for-the-new-noaa-sea-surface-temperature-dataset/

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George Rebane

11 January 2016

RussS 446pm – Thanks again Russ; I recall Gregory also pointing that out. Were it not their nature, it would be remarkable that only the skeptics identify the two datasets and their interpretations. The Left only keeps mentioning the interpretation that agrees with their agenda, as if it were the only one, and lets the crickets handle the rest.

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Walt

11 January 2016

Really “jon”?
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2014-04-14/coal-rises-vampire-like-as-german-utilities-seek-survival
How bout China?
After what “O” has done, you want to call Trump a “dictator”? Step back and away from the bong.
What is on life support, is your political philosophy. (someone pull the plug and finish it off.)

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drivebyposter

11 January 2016

“I included that reference to illustrate that mans inhumanity to man has no religious boundaries.”
P.Emery
Very ‘human’, I’d say.
After the end of the Third Servile War (you probably saw a movie about it somewhere), the Romans crucified 6000 people along 100 miles of road.

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Bill Tozer

11 January 2016

Nothing in particular.
https://www.facebook.com/RowdyConservatives/photos/a.217983685002343.55586.217926015008110/775997159200990/?type=3&theater
Oh, that was hurtful. Ok, how about something nice?
https://www.facebook.com/RowdyConservatives/photos/a.217983685002343.55586.217926015008110/776190885848284/?type=3&theater

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Russ Steele

11 January 2016

Jon@3:50PM King Coal dead? Not really!
I would not dance on King Coal’s grave just yet. The industry may continue to limp along for decades, with little growth, said an industry representative.
“China’s hunger for coal seems insatiable — it gobbles up 4 billion tons a year, about half of global supply — the story is different in the U.S. Here, coal’s share of electricity production has fallen from nearly 53 percent in 2000 to below 40 percent today. Coal companies face economic hardships, dwindling market shares and increasing regulations.”
The problem as I see it. The planet is cooling slightly, but this slight cooling will accelerate as solar cycle 24 declines and solar cycle 25 is the lowest in modern times, the Pacific returns to an extended La Niña condition like it has in the past for periods up to 20 years, and the Atlantic Multidecadal Oscillation turning cold. The plant will cool and winter heat will be in demand.
The AMO lasts for about 6o years. Combine a cool Pacific for 20-30 years, low sunspots for 20-30 year and a cold AMO for 60 years and it going to get real cold in the Norther Hemisphere. The last time we had these conditions existed was during the Little Ice Age from 1300 to 1850. The world is going to need that coal to stay warm. The world has an 110 year supply. Yes, natural gas will take up some of the energy demand, as will solar and wind. But, wind and solar will only be minor unreliable players. The main players will be coal, natural gas and some oil.
Therefore, Jon you should not dance on King Coal’s grave just yet.

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Larry Wirth

11 January 2016

Please, somebody, gift Jon with a glass navel so he can at least see where he’s going. L

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Walt

11 January 2016

The way the “jon” thinks, the Sun cooling down is “man’s fault”.
Just wait. Some idiot will start claiming “man is using too much solar energy”. Give it time,,, give it time…..

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Jon

11 January 2016

I’m dancing, Russ.

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Russ Steele

11 January 2016

Jon, do not trip and fall. Obama Care might not cover your claim.

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Russ Steele

11 January 2016

Oh My! Smiling Joe or the Faux Pocahontas may jump into the Presidential race. Must think that Hillary maybe going down for the count.
Tuesday on Newsmax TV’s “The Steve Malzberg Show,” Republican political consultant Mary Matalin said Hillary Clinton’s support comes from the support for her husband, former President Bill Clinton. Thus if she loses the first primaries in Iowa and New Hampshire, Matalin predicted it was very likely someone like Sen. Elizabeth Warren (D-MA)15%
or Vice President Joe Biden will jump in the race.
Matalin said, “Losing Iowa and New Hampshire is going to be the pivotal moment to see the prowess of her campaign and the depth of her support among Democratic regulars.”

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George Boardman

11 January 2016

Go ahead, Walt and Russ, buy stock in some of those coal companies so you can capture the upside potential.

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Walt

11 January 2016

If their good enough for Soros to buy, why not? Forget he bought all he could, Boardman?
He didn’t do it because he’s stupid, and has money to burn.

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Russ Steele

11 January 2016

GeorgeB@07:17PM
It would be a long-term investment, it will take 20 years, a generation for the warmers to discover how wrong they were. I am not going to live that long, much to my regret. Would love to be around for an I told you so session of two.

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Jon

11 January 2016

Russ, perhaps you should come to the Wild and Scenic Festival this weekend and join in on one of the Workshops. You are free to state your case as you see fit. Gotta purchase a ticket, but you and Walt are welcome to come.

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Jon

11 January 2016

Russ, before I forget, I must give you kudos for your good nature, your eternal optimism and the consistency of your views.
20 years until we discover how wrong we are?…:)

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jon smith

11 January 2016

Walt 1/11/16 16:58pm
“Just wait. Some idiot will start claiming “man is using too much solar energy”.
NC rejects solar farm because it will suck up too much of the sun’s energy. http://abc7chicago.com/news/nc-solar-farm-rejected-over-fear-it-will-suck-up-too-much-energy/1123331/

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George Rebane

11 January 2016

It sure sounds like the faithful in global warming have locked up some juicy short positions in the coal industry.

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Walt

11 January 2016

Well thanks Jon S.,, How come I’m not surprised?

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Walt

11 January 2016

Here is the news on Soros.
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2015/08/19/billionaire-george-soros-warms-up-to-coal-as-stock-prices-hit-bottom.html
Maybe because he knows full well, a Repub will replace Obummer as President, and scrap the war on coal.(among other things) “O” and Co. have been regulating things out of business, just because they can. “O” got plenty of money from the ECO kooks.
Trump has also said he will approve the XL pipeline as soon as he takes office.( unions like that news… You know,, the LIB orgs. the “O” stabbed in the back. Right along with coal miners)

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Jon

11 January 2016

unfortunately Trump isn’t going to be President, Walt. So its only a fantasy of yours.
But please do enjoy it while it lasts a bit longer..

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Walt

11 January 2016

Hillary? Not when she’s headed for a jail cell. Sanders? LIBS won’t allow it. Nomination bought and paid for by Hillary already. On top of that Dems are already switching teams.
Then the fact that the Left can’t win without the independent vote, and the independents have NO love for the LIBS this time. To add insult to injury, 25% of registered DEMS say they are voting for Trump.
Have fun in that alternate reality “jonnie”. LIBS thought they would have both Houses after the last election.. Yup, that worked out swell.
As I recall, you were in Trump’s corner the last time your were foaming at the mouth.
Let’s see the timeline… First you said trump would burn out and go away. WRONG!!
Then he would NEVER even be considered for the nomination. Nope, not looking good for you yet again. Then you hope he gets the nod. Remember that comment?(of course you do)
Like I said before…Don’t you ever get tired of being WRONG??

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Russ Steele

12 January 2016

O’KEEFE STRIKES AGAIN: Common Core sting captures executive saying program is scheme to sell more books… Developing…
Keep checking Drudge for the details.

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Bill Tozer

12 January 2016

Walt, we all remember how little jon was creaming his jeans hoping that Trump would get the nod. His mangina was all a’twitter over a Trump nomination.
Then he/she switched to words like NEVER and ZERO CHANCE as time progressed. To be fair, he did say he wouldn’t make a prediction until Jan, 2016 back then, lol.
Now, I wish to submit something for your consideration (which we on the right already know, but the media still hasn’t figured out). It’s about the Lefty side on the aisle, or is that the Lefty slide off the rails? Everybody is saying the Dem nomination race Is tighening up, Hillary loses 8% of her support in Iowa and Bernie gains 6. Bernie gaining traction nationally as well, and conversely Hillary support has been dropping since the November polling. Oh, how exciting.
However, the media is crediting Bernie for this surge and tightening of the race. Feel the Bern.
Nonsense! Bernie has not changed his tune about anything for the last 40 years. Now Hillary’s manager has issued a warning to not “go there” about Bill Clinton’s sexual assaults or his unwise infidelity escapades. .
http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/presidential-races/265430-hillary-aide-trumps-bill-clinton-attacks-reprehensible
Well, nonsense again! Has nothing to do with Bernie. Hillary’s numbers started to dive as soon as The Donald went after her soul mate Bill Clinton. It’s the Trump Effect, stupid. It’s all about Mr. Trump. He decides who goes up and who goes down.
Ironically Move On was formed as a direct response to Bill Clinton’s impeachment, Hmm, they just backed The Bern. Hillary is finding out that Americans liked Bill Clinton and his die hard supports and aides were loyal to Bill, not Hillary. Except John Podesta, lol.. He can push Bernie’s campaign around, but can’t touch The Donald.

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