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06 November 2015

[While Dr Ben Carson's political fate is being dissected on the 1nov15 sandbox, readers wishing to pursue other threads may now start fresh with sharing their insights on issues yet to be uncovered, or maybe not, for there are always a few dead horses out there who can do with another lash or two. gjr]

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163 responses to “Sandbox – 6nov15”

Michael R. Kesti

08 November 2015

Jon 07Nov15 08:41 AM
Ben will not recover… And the Trumpster will be sure to capitalize!
Is that correct? Trump had this to say concerning Carson On ABC’s This Week.
I hope it all works out, because I don’t want to see Ben have problems over this stuff.
I suppose demonstrating concern for being falsely accused could be seen as a way of capitalizing but I doubt that this is what Jon had in mind.

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Walt

08 November 2015

I for one believe Jon Smith is not, I repeat NOT,, “jon” the troll. Mr. Smith has proven that to me in past posts, and has my seal of approval.
Mr. “S”.. You may have noticed that more than a few ‘jons’ of slightly different spellings show up and aim their South end, North at the proverbial fan. As long as ya’ keep “Smith” friendly fire might be kept at a minimum.

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don bessee

08 November 2015

Would that be the rim rock AZ joe smith?

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Bill Tozer

08 November 2015

No wonder. Gotta be crazy to live in GV. Nevada City, thankfully, remains under the radar being too small and all. Nonetheless, crime is too high in Nirvana City for my tastes, so I never let the sun go down on my back if I am stuck there some reason. But, hey, that’s just me.
http://www.roadsnacks.net/most-dangerous-cities-in-california/

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Walt

08 November 2015

Ben Carson got the Herman Cain treatment. What they just tries to do to Carson has backfired, and come back to bite Politico in the ass.
Carson is a good man. But I care for the hellfire of Trump. Carson is a little too passive for the current job at hand. If the world was a little more stable, and the U.S. with a little more respect, Carson would be a better choice.
Today we need a guy like Trump who has what it takes to give a swift kick to the nuts of the likes of Putin, Kin Jon, and terrorists in general.
Trump will hopefully clean house and put the right people in to head the EPA and the Justice dept.
D.C. needs and enima, but I don’t think Dr. Carson has the ability to find a hose big enough for the job. Trump does.

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Bill Tozer

08 November 2015

Now about this Trump thang with Saturday Night Live. For weeks I have been reading about the controversy with the Without Papers crowd who were writing letters ( some in ledigible English no less) to Saturday Night Live demanding Trump’s invite be revolved or else all the taco carts in The Big Apple would be pulled from the mean streets and promises of boycotts, mayhem, and the end of civilization as we know it. Even had that gag at the end of Trumpt’s monologue so Larry could pocket a quick 5 Gees.
So, why in the heck would SNL risk having The Donald host, not to mention its steadily declining ratings since Belushi overdosed and Chevy Chase turned grumpy.
Oh, silly me, this is why.
https://www.yahoo.com/tv/s/donald-trump-helps-snl-blow-roof-off-ratings-171533822.html

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jon smith

08 November 2015

Walt 11/8/15 10:00
Thanks Walt. At one time I must have entered (auto spellcheck???) “joe” instead of “jon” on either typepad or wordpress (it kept the same ip, email address, and avatar though). From time to time some cookie kicks in and enters joe on the information line. If anyone ever noticed, I’ve yet to be called on it, but it certainly looks shady. I don’t know how to correct it other than double check the name before clicking “post”. Trust me, I am NOT the other Jon much less the Tater Pig!

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Walt

08 November 2015

Mr. Smith. Yes, we have our disagreements on some issues, but I can see your a stand up guy unlike that other “jon”. All he/she/it can do is hurrell insults, and NEVER supply anything to back up his (uh) arguments. Hell. He/she/it has yet to post (again unlike you) one thing about it/she/he’s background. None.Zip. Nada…
Still planning that move? Hope that is going well.
I’ve been busy resetting my reloading press due to the weather change. What a pain that is.
Those metal parts shrink plenty in this cooler weather.

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Frank Pinney

08 November 2015

I wanted to give all a heads up on a full page ad scheduled to run Monday, November 9 in the Union concerning the Global Warming Hoax. It should be the back page of the front section with a red border. I am sure it will inform many.

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Walt

08 November 2015

Now there is a name I haven’t heard from in a LONG time.
Frank. You have a Brother Joe? If so, tell him hello from me.

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Michael R. Kesti

08 November 2015

Another example of the FUE’s award winning journalism appeared on his blog this afternoon in the form of an article titled Local: “Global warming hoax” ad in The Union will “inform many”.
The FUE writes “You never run out of material for this blog.” If that were the case then one might think that he would come up more than quoting comments from others’ blogs.

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Todd Juvinall

08 November 2015

Michael, so true. He would have nothing to write about if it wasn’t for us. Yje man knows the on;y way he can get looks is to use our stuff. ROTFLMAO.

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Scott Obermuller

08 November 2015

This just in from ‘science’.
http://www.salon.com/2015/11/06/bill_nye_demolishes_climate_deniers_im_not_a_scientist_therefore_im_not_going_to_use_my_brain/
Best quote – ” Furthermore, if we were to charge a fee – oh, we must never call it a tax – on fossil fuels, wind would be way cheaper — way cheaper. And wind is just one example.”
Oh no – never call it a tax!
Just like ObamaCare – never call it a tax. Unless you’re in a court of law. Then call it a tax.
Next best line – “Yeah, you’re leading to my next point. Part of the solution to this problem or this set of problems associated with climate change is getting the deniers out of our discourse.”
That’s science, folks! Just get anybody that doesn’t agree with you out of the picture and you’re good to go.
Not only is govt not what I was told about in school, but science is now about just going with the power structure and getting rid of nay-sayers.
Just to recap – don’t call things what they are and get rid of anyone who disagrees with you.
That’s modern science!

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Gregory

08 November 2015

“I wanted to give all a heads up on a full page ad scheduled to run Monday, November 9 in the Union concerning the Global Warming Hoax.”
That is truly unfortunate; it is BS, but it isn’t a hoax. The majority of the proponents, especially the ‘scientists’, believe what they are telling people is true. Many are afraid to admit how shaky the evidence because they believe, and really think the end is near.
“The first principle is that you must not fool yourself and you are the easiest person to fool.”
-Richard Feynman

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Bill Tozer

08 November 2015

Concerning the facts and theories of science, if you lie and lie and lie again and again, then it becomes a habit. Some habits are hard to break, especially where money, property, and prestige are at stake. A young scientist today may have to go into Global Warming research just to start paying off his/her student loans and get out of DAD’s house. A tragic ending to what once appeared such a bright future of discovery and disproving hypothesizes. Rubber stamping before the results are in would be the death of my soul, but that’s just me.
In other events (Dr. Carson)……
https://www.facebook.com/RowdyConservatives/photos/a.217983685002343.55586.217926015008110/750580728409300/?type=3&theater
https://www.facebook.com/RowdyConservatives/photos/a.217983685002343.55586.217926015008110/750572618410111/?type=3&theater

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Bill Tozer

08 November 2015

Congrats to this labor union who is concerned about reducing greenhouse gases. They (the union) made a good point: Why belittle temp jobs? Afterall, Obama has a temp job.
http://thehill.com/policy/energy-environment/259395-union-obama-threw-workers-under-the-bus

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Walt

08 November 2015

When your a “climate change” scamitist relying on OPM, fear mongering is what you do.
When you spend YEARS preaching about global warming,, then shift gears and start calling it “climate change” (because those bogus numbers just aint adding up) you know you don’t know what the hell your talking about. So when this third rock from the sun goes into an ice age, you can still blame it on man. That way you can claim to be right no matter what happens.
Gotta keep that “study money” rolling in. Now they need the money to find out why shit just ain’t happening they way they claimed it would.

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Bill Tozer

08 November 2015

Well, that’s one way to take down a state environmental secretary. You go girl
http://news.yahoo.com/porn-scandal-top-prosecutor-keeps-releasing-raunchy-emails-055457416.html
Speaking of Secretaries, this one is really a lulu.
http://www.truthandaction.org/hillary-presidents-shouldnt-disclose-criminal-history/

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Walt

08 November 2015

OH YES BILL!! Hillary and her “ban the box” miss speak. That was a great coffee spitter.
Yup,, that will probably apply to her real soon. OH the comment section on that story had a field day.
Yup,,, “ban the box” will have every prospective employee getting criminal checks.
Only the likes of silent “jon” thinks hiring a person with a history of embezzlement would be a great idea working at a bank. A child molester working at a daycare center. Splendid move. How bout an identity thief working at DMV, or the IRS?
Of course the real idea behind all this is to end drug tests for employment. Now why didn’t “O” try that first?

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George Rebane

08 November 2015

BillT 754pm – Re Keystone temp jobs. Glad to see a union agrees. Now if we could only work on Obama and his mental midgets. See my 1059pm above.

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Gregory

08 November 2015

Jeffie was right on my comment of 7:18PM, with “And Gregory quoting Professor Richard Feynman is like Ben Carson quoting “Joseph and the pyramids” in a desperate attempt to gain some intellectual credibility.”
What a putz.
Golly, Jeff, in 1975 I spent an exhilarating afternoon in a Mudd physics colloquium open only to upper division physics students and physics department staff when Feynman came to visit, thanks to one of my professors who was a phd student of Feynman’s at CalTech. By then Feynman was fed up with showing up to talk physics only to have the event in a large auditorium filled with Pellines who just wanted to see a famous scientist saying something he can’t understand. The man was capable of incredible clarity regarding incredibly complex concepts and preferred to share his insights with those who are working to understand such things… I remember wishing I’d gone to CalTech but had that happened I might well have been thinking I wish I’d gone to Mudd.
Come to think of it, I had a very nice exchange with Freeman Dyson a year or two ago over that colloquium. Dyson had made some editorial comment (perhaps in the WSJ) about Feynman’s famous lack of patience with lesser scientists but at that very colloquium Feynman very uncharacteristically became almost reverent to ask Dr. Rojansky, a Mudd professor emeritus, what Paul Dirac’s interpretation of some fine point was… I’d never seen Rojansky so happy to be asked a question and he was always delighted to be asked interesting questions. I finally came to the conclusion that Rojansky, who wrote the first quantum mechanics text in modern QM notation when he was at Union College, may have been Feynman’s first guiding light in the subject as he apparently qrew up not far from the campus. Yes, Feynman had a soft side.
Dyson, one of the few to stand close to Einstein and Feynman in the 20th century was gracious and informative. Warmista Naomi “she’s not as nice as she looks” Oreskes should have been pilloried for her claim during her “Merchants of Doubt” dog and pony show that Dyson was what Pelline would call a “denier” only because he was an old man craving attention after a life in the limelight. History books are going to be very unkind to those who turned the scientific method on its head, substituting personal attacks for reason.
I had the Feynman Lectures in physics on or near my desk throughout my college years. Not for window dressing, to use. Ever crack open a real physics book, Jeff?

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Gregory

08 November 2015

Oh, and Jeff, you remain all wet regarding a fine point about math at Cal. There is no “engineering calculus”; the name of the class is just Calculus, and its the same class whether they’re a math, physics, chemistry, engineering or economics major and there is but one Calculus class (with an honor section for those who are particularly masochistic or bright).
Note to readers of this, Jeff in a post he titled “Who’s the smartest Ph.D.?”, not realizing Rebane’s denigrating the Drs. Newsom science background in climate science wasn’t at all about who was smarter… it was about a Medical doctorate having nothing to do with the science behind climate and weather study. That’s physics, not medicine, not the law, not theology, the fields of the other The Union columns and letters outside of Michael Mann himself and if one wants to get a good view of how many of Mann’s peers consider his standing in the field, I suggest reading up on Mark Steyn’s latest book. Here’s a link to get some of that in context:
http://judithcurry.com/2015/08/13/mark-steyns-new-book-on-michael-mann/
My son even gave up on Chemical Biology as a major at Cal when he discovered he didn’t like collegiate biology’s approach to science and turned to the physics side of chemistry as a result. Too bad, it was his exposure to Bill Newsom and his hematological oncology practice partner Dave Campbell during his mother’s illness that led him to Chemical Biology as the absolute hardest path to an MD in the first place but as George perhaps inartfully (damned Other Voices are too short) stated, medicine isn’t the same sort of science and and those other doctorates probably have less physics understanding than a freshman physics major with a decent score on AP Physics and AP Calculus under his or her belt.

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jon

09 November 2015

Blah, blah, blah.
Blah blah blah blah.

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George Rebane

09 November 2015

jon 744am – Please remember this is a sandbox. Feel free to also share some of your other insights, beliefs, observations, … with us without sounding as if you were its comment stream’s Arbiter General.

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fish

09 November 2015

Posted by: jon | 09 November 2015 at 07:44 AM
You should probably clarify to which comment above your cogent and devastating point by point rebuttal applies.

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Russ Steele

09 November 2015

Posted by: jon | 09 November 2015 at 07:44 AM
jon reaches for his intellectual quiver and finds it empty, resulting in a long brain fart.

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fish

09 November 2015

Well it’s about time…..
“Read my lips: the Bush era is over”
http://tinyurl.com/abadee-abadee-thats-all-folks

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fish

09 November 2015

Posted by: Russ Steele | 09 November 2015 at 08:03 AM
jon reaches for his intellectual quiver and finds it empty, resulting in a long brain fart.
Well that can’t be good for his carbon/methane footprint!

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Bill Tozer

09 November 2015

Oh jon was just checking up to see if we mentioned the FUEish fellow….er..checking up on what horrible things we are saying about the jon. I may be creepy, but as the FUEish fellow would say, jon’s words of enlightenment are bizarre. Isn’t bizarre kinda like being creepy? Or Stevie could have sent his toothless lapdog to be his designated reader.
This a confounding mystery, a bloody mystery I tell ya. What a way to start a Monday.

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fish

09 November 2015

Note to jeffy….
Merely staring at the works of Plato and Aristotle while shoveling Hostess Snowballs into your bottomless maw doesn’t really constitute reading.

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Todd Juvinall

09 November 2015

He and Frisch are peeing their pants about Pinney’s full page. Blowback is something these libnuts can’ stand. LOL!

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Russ Steele

09 November 2015

Steven Frisch writes on Jeff Pelline’s blog:
This ad is filled with so much disinformation and so many outright lies it is laughable.
He makes this claim without providing any evidence. I read the ad and nothing jumped out at me as an outright disinformation of the truth. I would like to know what Steven Frisch thinks are “outright lies” so we can examine and discuss.

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Walt

09 November 2015

A Tech question for the scientists in the room. Was that missile test that has been in the news, was in any way possible to be seen from here? Because I saw what I thought to be a “sun spotter” light from a helicopter about the exact same time lighting up the Southern sky. Just like the pic. that’s in today’s paper.
Inquiring mind wants to know.

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Bill Tozer

09 November 2015

Well, just when “he” was out of material, lo and behold, manna from heaven falls with this Union ad. Oh my, I better stock up on Snowballs and those pink elephant eyes before the shelves are empty. Shoot, i best grap another box of Paul Neuman Popcorn. It’s for a good cause.
This is gonna be bumpy ride, especially since we entered the end to college football as we know it. That really chaps my hide. There’s blood on my saddle if the libs start messing with corn fed football. Solution: Ride bareback.

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George Rebane

09 November 2015

Administrivia – Mr Pinney’s full page ad in the Union is available for your study here –
http://rebaneruminations.typepad.com/rebanes_ruminations/2015/11/frank-pinney-on-preventable-global-warming.html

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George Rebane

09 November 2015

Walt 952am – Not to worry, such launches from soCal are very visible from here at sunset. For future reference consider that the line of sight distance D to the horizon of an observer at height H above earth’s surface is approximated by D = sqrt(2RH) where R = 3957 miles, Earth’s average radius. Solving that for H = (D^2)/2R. Since from here to soCal we have D = 400 miles, this gives an H of about 20 miles (it’s actually less because your observation was not at sea level, but probably at 0.4 mile. Anyway, the powered part of a ballistic missiles trajectory easily takes it above 20 miles therefore making it visible from Nevada County.

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Bill Tozer

09 November 2015

Now don’t pull out your ole sliderule, Good Doc.miss the trees from the forest. Nah, it was the return of the Mothership to pic up the pod. Boy, the neighbors’ bigger guns were blasting at the sky so I knew they were about to try to land down past the back forty. We ain’t hostile to them, it’s just nobody wants to take them “to our leader”. Why would we treat our guests to the unfriendly confirms of DC? Got to think of others. After all, they too are children of the universe.

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Walt

09 November 2015

Thanks Dr. R. From where I was, it looked pretty close. Like I said. A helicopter search light just a few miles away. Nope,, as they say,, “you don’t see that every day.”
That last time I saw something “up there”, someone wanted to know what I was drinking, and how come I wasn’t sharing. ( when that Google balloon came by)
That must have been one big rocket.

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fish

09 November 2015

In which I laugh, and laugh, and laugh……

“The universities have done this to themselves. They created the whole phenomenon of modern identity politics and Politically Correct rules to limit speech. They have fostered a totalitarian microculture in which conformity to those rules is considered natural and expected. Now that system is starting to eat them alive, from elite universities like Yale, all the way down to, er, less-than-elite ones like Mizzou.
They created this Frankenstein monster, and it’s up to them to kill it before it kills them.

http://thefederalist.com/2015/11/09/mizzou-and-yale-show-why-its-time-to-burn-the-universities-to-the-ground/

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Bill Tozer

09 November 2015

Bad day for libs, Fish. Just posted another Federalist link over on the UnCommon Core post. You post is one for the record books. The football game is back on, and everything is swell. With a million smackers coming in if they play Saturday, it’s easy to see why the powers booted the Dean clean off campus and eargerily lapped up that good old fashioned extortion.
The game must go on.

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Bill Tozer

09 November 2015

Yo Walt, they snuck one passed us!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!Today!!!!
http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-ln-second-missile-launch-pentagon-20151109-story.html

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Walt

09 November 2015

Yes Bill.. This one during the light of day! At least now I know what to look for when the day comes to put my head between my legs, and kiss my ass goodbye.
I’m still scratching my nuts trying to believe I saw the fist one from way up this way.
What? Some 500 or so miles? I even went to Google Earth and drew a line from here to there, using good ol’ Kentucky windage. And sure as sh**, it “just might be”.
( I still think it was CHP or a black helicopter on Jade helm ops who spotted Bigfoot on Pilot Peak)

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Bill Tozer

09 November 2015

Walt, you won’t believe this. They finally found the shooter on the Grassy Knoll. No kidding, proving once again one is only a paranoid conspiracy freak until proven correct.
In addition to the above, Mr. Walt (ballon guy), I must say I just luv the way your guy talks about my gal. 🙂
http://finance.yahoo.com/news/trump-hillary-clinton-running-president-024131082.html

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Walt

09 November 2015

That’s right Bill,, The Progressive LIB DOJ will under NO circumstances indict Hildabeast
as long as she is running for Prez. She’s to important to jail. Dirty LIBS just don’t go there. That’s reserved for Repubs.

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fish

10 November 2015

Hmmmmm….lets see what’s going on in your Western Community™ ……yes…..mmmm….ahhh!
Steve eagarly anticipating great things once all you old codgers die off and are replaced by New ~~Soviet~~….err….New Man…..no that’s probably sexist….Sorry Ben…..well something new produced by a “…. new demographic with new values, whether home grown or as result of in migration, are gradually taking over and the culture will shift. And jeffy is still lamenting that he was dumped by his ~~old girlfriend~~…..the Union…of course I meant to say the Union newspaper!
So Tuesday then. Carry on!

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Bill Tozer

10 November 2015

Oh Mr. Fish, we need to make some adjustments here, some tweeks there, to save the environment, the Earth, the species, and The New American Way.
https://www.facebook.com/RowdyConservatives/photos/a.217983685002343.55586.217926015008110/750998688367504/?type=3&theater
Oh, this was a sure bet. Crickets, crickets, more crickets. The Highest of High Moral Ground fighters of injustice, privilege, and power are so transparent and sooo predictable they have become soooo boring.
https://www.facebook.com/RowdyConservatives/photos/a.217983685002343.55586.217926015008110/750831968384176/?type=3&theater

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fish

10 November 2015

stevefrisch says:
November 10, 2015 at 8:50 am
He’s just an old crank who learned propaganda at the feet of Joseph Goebbels as a boy. The danger is the hundreds or thousands of people who believe they way he does organized as a political force to elect people to local office or block action by our elected officials. I really hope Todd runs for Supervisor. I will donate real $$ to defeat that ignorant SOB.
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DANGER….DANGER….DANGER…….! IDEAS RUNNING COUNTER TO THE PREVAILING ORTHODOXY…..DANGER….DANGER…DANGER!!
See George….influencing people through ideas and discussion is propaganda……unlike revealing the gospel truth like he and jeffy do daily.
If only you could embrace the beauty and purity of their progressive philosophy then everybody could march boldly into their radiant progressive future together!
Wouldn’t that be thuper!

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George Rebane

10 November 2015

fish 952am – It gives joy that they are constantly thinking of us for here we always welcome guidance from a higher source.

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Todd Juvinall

10 November 2015

Fish 9:52 AM
Did that tax cheat actually say that? It doesn’t surprise me when a sleazebag wants to divert his wrongdoing to some other issue. It would be interesting to see how much of his employees tax money he swiped would be used to “attack” me as a candidate for Supervisor. Maybe he is afraid I’ll cut off his free money and remove him from his “position” in Truckee. You just can’t make this stuff up!
And his attack on GeorgeR is amazing. My guess is Frisch was too heavy to get get into the military. Look at him now. Jeeze, his poor feet. LOL!

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George Rebane

10 November 2015

ToddJ 1100am – I guess I lead a sheltered life; where does Mr Frisch launch his attacks these days?

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