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[Time for some fresh sand. I'm concerned that we don't have a viable declared candidate in Nevada County's District #1 to oppose Ms Heidi Hall for Supervisor. Anyone have any ideas? gjr]

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272 responses to “Sandbox – 1nov15”

  1. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    George 9:25 AM
    Thank you for your thoughtful response. This is indeed a deep and complex issue. I need to beg off responding for now because I have three shows in the next two days to tend to. Let’s pick this conversation up first of the week.

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  2. George Rebane Avatar

    PaulE 1224pm – Agreed that it’s worth pursuing. Then let’s leave the ball in your court; hit it back when convenient. In the interval, break a leg 😉

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  3. Todd Juvinall Avatar

    George Boardman | 06 November 2015 at 11:19 AM
    Just returned and saw your comments. Actually, I am correct and if you read Carson’s book entry on this you will read that he never applied for West Point. I have also just listened to his press conference and the press was quite aggressive but apparently none have read the book. Politico made the story up from a tidbit where Carson said Westmoreland or his aides talked to him about WP since he was the leader of the ROTC and had great grades etc. So yes, once again all you press people jump the gun and don’t do your homework. Politico did the same thing to Herman Cain regarding their made up story he had affairs.

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  4. Michael R. Kesti Avatar
    Michael R. Kesti

    Todd Juvinall 06Nov15 04:37 PM
    It might be that the “press people” haven’t done their homework but to me this appears to be a picayune attempt to discredit Carson.

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  5. Todd Juvinall Avatar

    Kesti, I totally agree with your statement.

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  6. jon smith Avatar
    jon smith

    Todd, your lame excuse, “he never applied to West Point” is a red herring. No one suggested he did.
    Carson, “I was offered a full scholarship on the spot.”
    West Point: “The school has a rigorous entry process that would not have allowed Westmoreland to guarantee anyone entry. Furthermore, there are no “full scholarships” to the academy.”
    Google the statement from Gifted Hands. It’s there for all to see. No Politico spin required.

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  7. George Rebane Avatar

    jons 524pm – For those who know the military and the influence of the highly selective and insular flag officers club (in each branch of the service), any recommendation from a three-star like Westmoreland would have guaranteed Carson’s acceptance at West point had he applied. The statement you quoted is merely public relations fodder. May it continue to comfort you.

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  8. Michael R. Kesti Avatar
    Michael R. Kesti

    Todd Juvinall 06Nov15 05:22 PM
    Gee, Todd, that’s nice. Not so nice that you might use my name respectfully but nice enough, I suppose.
    But if it’s a choice between a lying, money laundering, potential felon, and someone who was unaware of how admissions and tuition work at West Point when he wrote a book almost 20 years ago I know I would choose the latter.

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  9. Todd Juvinall Avatar

    jon smith | 06 November 2015 at 05:24 PM
    You are just plain wrong and reflect the smear of the press in all this. Politico made it up, spread the manure around and the rest of the lazy lames decided to run with it. When you read the book and then the Politico hit piece, you will agree I am correct. But like all liberals, you will not. And you will defend Hillary Clinton till your death. Amazing how lemming you are.
    Michael Kesti, if you think using your last name is a derogatory thing then I will apologize and use your first name. If you desire me to use your first and last I will certainly accommodate your request.

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  10. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    Of course they are going after Carson. He is on the upswing. Politics before gender, politics before race is their mantra ever since they all sided with the brother in the OJ Simpson Trail. Those 911 calls Nichole frantically made while being battered all turned out to be ant-brother. Politics before gender, politics before race, as evidenced by the racist Left treatment of Dr. C Rice, Thomas, West,….heck, every single black with a R attached to his formerly noble name.
    Yo Jon
    https://www.facebook.com/RowdyConservatives/photos/a.217983685002343.55586.217926015008110/749487135185326/?type=3&theater

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  11. joe smith Avatar
    joe smith

    Todd-
    Do you not understand how to use Google Books? In 20 seconds you can drill down the chapter, paragraph and sentence that Carson wrote. Politico did not go back 20 years and “make it all up.” You are one of the dumbest smart people i’ve ever run into . . . but maybe I’m giving you too much credit. If you run for sup, I personally pledge $5,000.00 to Heidi’s campaign. The downside of course is that you will then know my address and probably poison my dog and run over the mailbox.

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  12. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    Blame the mailbox on a gang of teenage hooligans, Todd.

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  13. Jon Avatar
    Jon

    Tozer, what was the left’s treatment of Condi Rice? She had a great educational background, great brain, with a war hawk agenda and unnatural loyalty to the team even when facts were known that ran counter to the story they told. This is what every progressive I know objected to. I heard Michael Savage one day attack her worse than any progressive ever did. Clarence Thomas yes indeed, now that’s a totally different story..he is very strange person, had a strange interaction with Anita Hill, and was totally unqualified for the highest bench. Not a great brain on that guy.

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  14. Walt Avatar

    No “jon”,, Not the collective “ECO bastards” where the XL pipeline is concerned. ALL the studies were in it’s favor. It was just “O” being his usual royal DICK to the U.S. worker.
    Any way to screw over the nation, he has done it. Just like the coal miners. He even suckerd them in to backing him in the election. Union LIBS are not the sharpest knives in the drawer.
    All those problems will go away when a Repub is elected President in a year. Hillary will be in jail, ( Her signed document surfaced today) and Sanders is unelectable, and no one has heard of the other two clowns.

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  15. Jon Avatar
    Jon

    The fossil fuel industry lost, Walt. A bad, bad week for the industry. People who care about the earth beat the goliath.
    Fat chance on your Hillary theory, but I do wish you well, and lots of good wishes to Donald Trump to win the nomination! I hope I am wrong with my prediction on the guy.

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  16. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    Well, we will see if Carson is a liar, liar, pants on fire…..or not. Now, if Carson claimed he was under enemy sniper fire as he raced across the tarmac as fast as he could to an awaiting heavily armored vehicle to whisk The Brain Surgeon to safety, that would be a horse of a different color.
    “Feet don’t fail me now” stories are ok, nothing to see here. But, why o why Ben, did you utter a mix up you have concerning West Point? Geez, I know you were trying to figure out how to achieve your dreams and which way to go at 18, but you will not be forgiven for this one. At lease you didn’t do the Herman Cain bad thing….always a silver lining.

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  17. Jon Avatar
    Jon

    Tozer, the worst beatings on Carson will continue to come from your favorite firebrand lunatic, The Trumpster.
    Walt is a big fan of the guy.

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  18. Michael R. Kesti Avatar
    Michael R. Kesti

    Todd Juvinall 06Nov15 06:10 PM
    I find addressing me using only my surname to be provocative and disrespectful, and I have believed that these have been your intent although it may only be another example of the oafishness to which you have admitted.
    I would be pleased if you would call me, “Michael.”

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  19. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    Trumpeter rocks and kicks butt. And a growing number of female minorities of color say “Here’s a man I can trust, not like those flakes that left me high and dry.”
    Trumpster, Carson, makes no difference to me. And Trump does not even have to debate. He calls the press, throw out a nice spread for them in his office, and gets all the free press he could use. No need to run ads, save one or two now and then. He has them eating out of the palm of his hand.
    A little personality goes a long way when you are out there kissing babies. Lest we forget, the press is used to being fed cheap ass sandwiches with dried out corners, so a visit to The Trumpster’s office, domicile, building (same thing) is a feast fit for Kings. Smart move on The Donald’s part as he never has to leave his place and still gets wall to wall coverage. Wonder if he keeps a jar of jelly beans handy.
    Now Dr. Carson is fit as a fiddle. But, can he (or Rodclam) actually be good administrators, CEOs of this bloated government? Hey, it pains me to say this, but the only one with the administrate and give and take back room glad handing experience would be Jeb in regards to things like getting Wall Street reform past Chuck and Congress. Of course, The Donald would make a few calls and it would be on his desk in 3 months, but that goes without saying.

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  20. Todd Juvinall Avatar

    joe smith | 06 November 2015 at 06:45 PM
    So why have you not read the paragraph then? You are so dumb that my cat would beat you in debate. Follow your own advice. Carson is being smeared by the Politico and now even the NYT’s and the Wash Post wrote about it. You true believers in the commie Bernie Sanders and his sidekick the “enabler” of Bills affairs is too funny. And I hope you do donate that $5,000 to Heidi Hall, it will be good to see that a dolt like you is out in his place. I won;t poisin your dog since I have more respect for your pet than I do for you. Your mailbox? Naw, too much work.

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  21. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    Walt, you Trump lubber you. Why Trump? Cause anybody else will be “Business as Usual”.
    https://www.facebook.com/lastamericapatriots/photos/pb.235086849974878.-2207520000.1446870504./564112977072262/?type=3&theater

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  22. Walt Avatar

    The “jon” is back to smoking that Monsanto genetically modified experimental weed again.
    His dream of bird blenders and endangered critter cookers (under output monster solar farms) just ain’t cutting the mustard. Sooner than later all that OPM will be cut off.
    (massive subsidies) Then those money suckers will go tits up.
    Your still putting gas in the tank to go to work there “jonnie boy”. And so will your great grand kids. Sorry sonny,, nothing is going to replace the gasoline engine ANYTIME soon.
    Like I said before. Today’s electric car still can’t go any further than the first one made 100 years ago. And that’s what you call progress? LOL!!
    Not to mention that highly toxic lithium that needs to be mined to make those high cost batteries. But your so anti mining!!! Oooopppssssss Your hypocrisy has reared it’s ugly head again.
    As for the tar sands, Canada will just sell what Warren Buffet can’t haul by train to China.
    So pal,, what will you heat with when the coming ice age is in full swing?
    Uh,, rising sea levels? Yaaaaa….. The fear mongers say,”.27MM a year”.. Now get out your ruler and try and see that.

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