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Sandbox – 18oct15

18 October 2015

[Did President Obama prejudge the FBI investigation of Hillary's email contents and handling? gjr]

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145 responses to “Sandbox – 18oct15”

Bill Tozer

18 October 2015

Well, depends who you ask, Dr. Rebane. The FBI is seething mad about O spouting no National Security risk while the evidence and combing through Hillary Rodclam’s web of deceit ain’t even over. Might just be cranking up.
The Good Side (Dem Nat’l Party) takes that as a semi-endorsement of the e-mail thang. No harm, no foul…..yet. Not about Benghazi no more as the forensic specialists are on to more important things of true National Security threats of who sent top secret stuff over a basically unsecured system and the ole what, when, why, and to what extent.
I take O’s statement as a two edged sword. First, he said Rodclam’ did bad things, which is not a defense of her. Then he said what she did ain’t all that horrible bad, knowing full well that the wheels are in motion and he, as Pilate did before Jesus, decided to wash his hands of the whole matter. Let her dangle in the wind and see what the FBI forwards as recommendations to Loretta Lynch.
Will Loretta Lynch become the new Janet Waco Reno and take the fall if Obama gives Rodham the thumbs up, or will Valerie give Mrs. Bill Clinton the thumbs down to protect her boss’s legacy? Stay tuned for the next episode of Days Of Our Lies.
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Bill Tozer

18 October 2015

The Big Chill.
http://thegrio.com/2015/10/18/chicago-mayor-blames-viral-police-brutality-videos-for-rising-murder-numbers/

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Happy guy!

18 October 2015

Oh sure they did, and I bet they sat down and discussed what dress wouldn’t make her look fat in the debate. while coming each others hair…..

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Bill Tozer

19 October 2015

Well, she does have fat ankles, but that has nothing to do with what Rodham brought on by the actions and decisions she, and she alone, made to handle communications as the Nations top diplomat. No one to blame except the Happy Gal in the mirror.

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Bill Tozer

19 October 2015

Best analysis of the landscape I have read in a long time. Fair and balanced. No wonder jon took his ball and went home.
http://www.vox.com/2015/10/19/9565119/democrats-in-deep-trouble

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Walt

19 October 2015

Right on time. Now George Board man has picked up the anti gun torch.
Right along with the rest of the anti gun blowhards, points to “studies” and evil Repubs who protected the citizens rights.
Board man didn’t mention that NO law would have stopped any shooting.The trigger pullers had NO RECORDS that would have stopped the sale of a gun. Except in ONE case where the FEDS dropped the ball.
According to the gun grabbers line of thinking, Places like PV and Rough&Ready should be killing fields. There are guns in every home.(Plenty of them) So what’s wrong with that picture?
The likes of George Board man NEVER bring up the streets of Chicago (where legal gun ownership is the real crime) and the city block of anti gun laws on the books.
In one week, let alone one weekend more people are killed than in any “mass shooting”.
There it’s just continuous. Yer Sir,, all those anti gun laws there are working out just swell.
Take a nice walk in the windy city Board man, The city with a thousand gun laws you like so much. Anti gun laws make you safe.

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Bill Tozer

19 October 2015

Oh Walt, that is so old school. Like 1776 type of talk. You need to go to indoctrination class to become reeducated on matters of “shall not be infringed.” That does not really mean what you think it says.
Got a New Man. He’s a Dem to boot. I have an open mind cause I be schooled in reeducation camps.
https://www.facebook.com/RowdyConservatives/photos/a.217983685002343.55586.217926015008110/742872912513415/?type=3&theater
https://www.facebook.com/GunOwnersOfColorado/photos/a.528610087184121.120941.528607457184384/1046804922031299/?type=3&theater

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Bill Tozer

19 October 2015

Haven’t read Mr. Boardman’s column yet, but I am sure it is thoughtful.
With that said, every single mass shooting (mass murder) that has been wrought upon us has been in gun free zones, with the expection of one or two tragedies.
Reading what the wing nuts wrote on social media or left in journals at their abodes for police to find later, one eerie theme emerges. The killers all wanted to carry out their plans without meeting opposition or being stopped, thus the facilities they chose were places where they would not be stopped by deadly force.
http://patriotpost.us/posts/38292

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fish

19 October 2015

More evidence of lefty/environmental cognitive dissonance …….
http://www.ocregister.com/articles/people-687876-environmental-change.html

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George Rebane

19 October 2015

Yes indeed, that was a classical hit piece on the 2nd Amendment by Mr George Boardman, right down to the usual omissions and dubious stats. The gun grabbers’ perennial argument is ‘why can’t we be more like the Europeans?’ without admitting a clue about the differences in our societies. They continue to ignore that it is the culture of the ghettos abetted by scumbag politicians that cause the overwhelming number of gun murders, and the mentally disturbed and ideologically deranged who commit mass killings contribute very little to the body count.
What the Boardmans of the world don’t seem to understand is that the marginal cost for eliminating that last fraction of a percent is extremely high for us as a liberal democracy – they view us as peer nation on the global scene. And in this regard, none of them acknowledge the historical role of the 2nd Amendment in America. But Mr Boardman has every right to his ideology, even one that may be destructive to the Republic, and no one should do anything to deny him his voice.

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fish

19 October 2015

Posted by: George Rebane | 19 October 2015 at 11:05 AM
As I have mentioned on numerous occasions at RR, I believe that now is the time for the Boardmans, Frisches, and others to climb the pile of bodies and rally their troops to enact truly meaningful legislation to eliminate the scourge of gun violence from our society.
What are they waiting for?

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Gregory

19 October 2015

There are a number of intended mass shootings that end early because there was someone with a gun to stop them early; there’s a reason such shooters choose “gun free zones” to carry them out, and Umqua was not an exception. For those of you who were confused by the confusing recently, here’s an excerpt from a John Lott piece:

“Oregon law does allow permitted concealed handguns on school property. The New York Times, Media Matters, and others have been quick to pounce on this fact. What has been ignored, however, is that public educators in Oregon have undermined the law by putting bans in faculty and student handbooks.
There may be no criminal sanctions for violating the ban, but faculty face termination and students risk expulsion. Those are life-altering penalties. Faculty members undoubtedly won’t get another academic job if they committed a firearms violation. Expelled students are very unlikely to be admitted into another college.
Although Umpqua can theoretically provide written exemptions for the bans, school president Rita Calvin wouldn’t even let the college’s security guards carry guns.
Only people unaffiliated with the college can carry on campus. But even they are subject to a 2011 Oregon appeals court decision that allowed schools to ban guns in their buildings.
What all these rules mean is that no potential victims — students, faculty, or those unaffiliated with the college — were able to defend themselves in the classroom where the attack occurred.”
<a href="http://www.philly.com/philly/blogs/thinktank/Would-be-killers-target-gun-free-zones.html

“>http://www.philly.com/philly/blogs/thinktank/Would-be-killers-target-gun-free-zones.html

I’m pretty sure this is the Frischian caricature of CCW holders:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t-wUe5aEwHM
No, people who legally carry concealed aren’t Walter Mitty/Mighty Mouse wannabees looking for a chance to be a hero, and so the students who were methodically shot one by one just sat quietly for their turn.
Regarding Europe, then there’s Anders Brevik…
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/feb/22/anders-breivik-massacre-one-of-us-anne-seierstad
Yes, we do have a sub-sub culture of disturbed young men who decide to go out in a blaze of what they apparently see as glory and, short of a police state with a different Bill of Rights you’re not going to solve it by restricting access to firearms by the vast law abiding majority who have had the right to posses them for centuries.

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Bill Tozer

19 October 2015

Found this as an interesting snapshot of our culture and how we have changed the way we communicate. Last two paraphernalia for the speed reader.
American English is more nuanced now that we speak Libeze.
http://www.vox.com/2015/10/19/9553185/america-race-foreigners

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Todd Juvinall

19 October 2015

Ecotopia! I had forgot all about that book. Yep, the liberals will pull a Chicom on us and only one male child is allowed. Drown all the girls just like they did in China. Now forty million horny men are prowling the streets! And, if that is not enough, kill all those little black fetus trying to get into the planet’s atmosphere via Planned Parenthood. Yes, we are inching our way towards that Ecotopia aren’t we?
The reason we have so many yahoos in prison (mass incarceration) is in my opinion, the tradeoff of freedom versus totalitarianism. Sure we could emulate European morees and pass laws to send out GeorgeB and his ilk to confiscate the guns but like Ben Carson said, if the sheep were armed to fight off the wolves they might still be alive. We have freedom in our country to be good or bad. A lot of people are bad. We have people who know the use of a weapon to kill another is a bad thing and if caught they head for the clink. So let us raise “good” people.
We can do that by changing the raising of people. What we teach them from day one. If we teach them that guns can kill and that is bad (except in self defense), perhaps that might work. If we have mentally ill people who wish to kill, we need to remove them to safer quarters in a institution. The ACLU will of course fight that and represent the mentally ill so they can kill but we should still try.
Last but not least, we need to bring shame and discipline back into the lives of our people. Feeling of shame can be a great deterrent to bad acts. Discipline is taught to show there is a consequence to bad acts. OK done ranting for know. I am sure you are glad.

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Paul Emery

19 October 2015

Todd writes:
” If we have mentally ill people who wish to kill, we need to remove them to safer quarters in a institution.”
What standards and process do you propose to judge a person mentally ill?

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Todd Juvinall

19 October 2015

Oh I don’t know Paul Emery. I imagine the same people who govern us can figure that out. What about you?

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Paul Emery

19 October 2015

By the way Obama is the highest he’s been in the polls for over two years. He might actually be an asset to Dem Craps in the next election. He’s far more popular than Congress and TWICE more popular than the Pubbers in Congress (24%).
“Obama’s job approval rating is now at 51 percent, a six-point jump from the same survey in July, and an 11-point boost from the same point last year, when just 40 percent said they approved of the job he is doing.
The president also won a majority of approval for his decision to keep troops in Afghanistan past the previously announced 2016 deadline, with 50 percent supporting and 39 percent opposed.
On the other hand, just 35 percent of Americans thought Democratic lawmakers are doing a good job compared to 59 percent who do not, and just 24 percent approved of their Republican counterparts while 71 percent did not, with both numbers roughly in line with recent years’ polling.”
Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2015/10/poll-obama-approval-ratings-214922#ixzz3p37ZdUa6

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Todd Juvinall

19 October 2015

Obama’s job approval is here
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/latest_polls/
Sorry Paul Emery, your numbers are bogus. He is up to 7 points underwater.
Congress always has a crummy rating, nothing to see there.
Bush? Who cares?
Politico is an arm of the democrats. Not trustworthy information.

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Paul Emery

19 October 2015

Todd
The numbers are from Washington Post-ABC polls. Do you consider the WP to be an “arm of the Democrats”?
” More than half of Americans in a new ABC News/Washington Post poll approve of Barack Obama’s job performance, a first in nearly two and a half years. That compares with 71 percent disapproval of the Republicans in Congress, with six in 10 calling their struggle to select a new House speaker a sign of dysfunction within the GOP caucus.
Likely boosted by improving economic sentiment, Obama’s job approval rating has gained 6 percentage points since July to 51 percent, a level he hasn’t seen since May 2013. That’s up 11 points from his career low a year ago. Forty-five percent disapprove, down 5 points since midsummer and 10 points from its peak in late 2013. ”
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/obama-regains-majority-job-approval-gop-infighting-dysfunction/story?id=34575953

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Todd Juvinall

19 October 2015

That poll has all adults which you cited and that is correct. The same poll of registered voters is 48/48

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Todd Juvinall

19 October 2015

Oh and he is down 7 in another poll by Rasmussen and down 3 by Gallup.

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Paul Emery

19 October 2015

Either way Obama is far more popular than the Republican Congress in any Poll. The Dems are in the middle.
Care to compare Obama with Bush at the same time in his Presidency?

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Todd Juvinall

19 October 2015

No it is pointless. But you have Bush Derangement Syndrome and have been unable to find a cure except for the poll numbers. You are truly a sad sack.

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Paul Emery

19 October 2015

I don’t need to spread the word. The Donald does a good job of that.

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fish

19 October 2015

Get ready for more of this in the future……

US Army forced to borrow British helicopters amid budget cuts

Now I am for a significantly tighter defense budget but this sends a bad message. When the O’Dummy administration is dropping pallet loads of ammunition for any random yahoo in the Syrian desert to pick up while the army has to bum rides from the Brits.
Hey…..we should hand out some more Obama phones to the peeps that’ll fix things up right quick!
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/11940511/US-Army-forced-to-borrow-British-helicopters-amid-budget-cuts.html

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Walt

19 October 2015

From Paul,,,”What standards and process do you propose to judge a person mentally ill?”
Yet your Gun grabbing pals say we need to keep guns out of those vary same hands.
Now just what “law” can or will do that? Where is Board man? Just what “is” that “common sense” law that has yet to be written to take care of that problem?
Then there is this brain child of the CA. LIBS
“Aside from the ammo background checks, the California proposal also would require felons to relinquish weapons, and ensure that data is shared with the federal firearms database on residents who are prohibited from owning guns. ”
From this story,,
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2015/10/19/top-california-official-pushes-ammo-background-checks/?intcmp=hpbt2
Uhhhh,,, NEWS FLASH!!! It’s ALREADY ILLEGAL for felons to have guns!!
Do ANY of these idiots even know what laws are on the books?? HAYYY,,, Lets write another law! Ya! Felons can’t own guns! That will do it!! ( sure thing shit for brains.)
That “common sense” law is already on the books.(dumbshit)
I see Board man has yet to show up, to defend his half baked diatribe. (Not really surprising)

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fish

19 October 2015

Posted by: Walt | 19 October 2015 at 04:09 PM
It’s cool Walt…you and I can caravan to Reno for ammo! Of course the traffic is going to be a lot heavier what with everybody else on HWY 80 doing the same thing. Instead of just “Cigarettes” it’ll be “Cigarettes & Ammo” just over the state line.
I’m sure Nevada will be happy for the bump in revenue!

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Walt

19 October 2015

I reload Fish. I don’t need to head East and over the hill. It’s the other poor bastards I feel sorry for.
Then I read this.
http://dailycaller.com/2015/10/19/coal-company-faces-5000-fine-for-displaying-fire-obama-signs/
Yes, a private Co. gets sued by the FEDS for making signs. Another LIB wet dream.

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fish

19 October 2015

Posted by: Walt | 19 October 2015 at 04:26 PM
I reload Fish. I don’t need to head East and over the hill. It’s the other poor bastards I feel sorry for.
It’s all good Walt…..another “black market” in the making.

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Bill Tozer

19 October 2015

Geez, Walt, what a bunch of baloney you are swallowing. Nobody is trying to take your guns, duh.
https://www.facebook.com/RowdyConservatives/photos/a.217983685002343.55586.217926015008110/742903569177016/?type=3&theater

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Bill Tozer

19 October 2015

I prefer convience stores that sell cheap bread and ammo. Cigs you need to go to Reno for, along with good stuff deck oil. The good stuff that lasts more than a couple years.
https://www.facebook.com/RowdyConservatives/photos/pb.217926015008110.-2207520000.1445298260./742873835846656/?type=3&theater

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Walt

19 October 2015

I just knew “jon” had gone off the deep end. I think I found him in the police blotter.
“2:41 p.m. — A caller from the 100 block of Argall Way reported a man with red polka dot boxer shorts over his jeans, arguing with himself.”

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fish

20 October 2015

“Canada’s new PM Trudeau vows to bring hope, change…….”
Really I thought you guys were too smart to fall for that nonsense?
But hey good luck with that…hope you’ve got an additional 8 trillion to keep your economy treading water for eight years!

Liberals win with a majority of seats
The Liberal party won the Canadian election with an estimated 184 seats out of 338 (as this goes to print), ousting the ruling Conservatives. The Liberals were expected to win a minority of seats, so the majority victory comes as a surprise. Liberal leader Justin Trudeau will become the new Prime Minister, commanding the confidence of the majority of Parliament. The change of government should largely keep Canada’s business-friendly environment in tact: Liberals want to keep corporate taxes low, and the party supports the Trans-Pacific Partnership (TPP) free trade deal, as well as most major pipeline projects. However, a push for carbon and environmental regulation by the Liberal government could be negative for the energy sector.

Seems though that Canadas “liberals” know “on which side their bread is buttered”.

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George Rebane

20 October 2015

fish 609am – Mr fish, what economic pressure do you think/know that the US exerts on Canada in order to influence its domestic policies?

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fish

20 October 2015

Posted by: George Rebane | 20 October 2015 at 06:27 AM
It appears as though the main political factions in both Canada and the US think that supporting the TPP is in their interest. I thought that Canada, being a bit further down the social democratic road might have been less inclined towards a trade pact that many paint as having such dire consequences for “workers”.

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Todd Juvinall

20 October 2015

I listened to Trudeau’s victory speech last night. They have a “super majority” I think. Anyway, he sounded more Republican than our leadership. But he did have all the feel good words and phrases a lot usually spouts.
The other thing I notified throughout the evening was the “press” giddiness for the upcoming victory. They talks as if they were partners with the libs and had done all they could to help. Sound familiar?

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fish

20 October 2015

Robot reporter Wordsmith begins its advance
How soon before it starts whining about its neighbors?
http://www.capitalnewyork.com/article/media/2015/10/8580048/robot-reporter-wordsmith-begins-its-advance

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Walt

20 October 2015

Either Life flight landed nearby, or a pot grower got a rude awakening at sunrise.
“Gitt’m boys!” 10 minutes of rotor blade racket ruined my beauty sleep.
Yup,, it’s dope bust season.

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Bill Tozer

20 October 2015

There was a headon this morning on 20 @ Melody Road below ya, Walt.
One pot complaint, one Sheriff “scout it out”. Seems fair to us who have a right to the ambiance of ranch living.
Canada, Oh, Canada. Well, not surprising. The conservatives had control for 10 years, now time for the other side to take the fall. Politics can only carry a Country’s woes and circumstances “not up to perfection” only so far. Heard the new PM is the boy of Pierre. Hmmm. Think Pierre was the head honcho when I got deported from the land of the maple leaf back in the day. Time warp. Next thing you now they will be making another Back to the Future, Terminator, and a Clinton will be a’runnin against a Bush. Next stop, Dico Duck.

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Bill Tozer

20 October 2015

In other news fit for The Sandbox:
https://www.facebook.com/OfficialRightWingNews/photos/a.401034789956656.90394.389658314427637/1215877931805667/?type=3&theater

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Bill Tozer

20 October 2015

Yo Walt. Good thing you didn’t say you were Norweign after all.
http://www.cnn.com/2015/10/19/europe/norway-hunter-shoots-elk-zoo/?iid=ob_article_footer_expansion&iref=obnetwork

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Walt

20 October 2015

Thanks Bill, it was one or the other. That means they would have set down @ the park. ( as usual) I didn’t get up to turn on the snitch box (scanner)
Then there (I believe) PG&E using their sniffer copter on Sun. flying the gas main. He was so low, I could see the folks in it waive back as they came by. ( Nooo,,,, I didn’t give them the finger.)
What next Canada to declare war on the U.S.? As cowardly as “O” is, he would surrender without a fight.
Canada was doing pretty good with the Conservatives running things. No it might go to hell in a handbasket.

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Walt

20 October 2015

Hunting in a zoo?(or next to it) Maybe the fence would be the first clue?
I hope they at least had a good BBQ. Moose is good eat’n.
The jackass guide should have known where he was at! Blame the guide,, not the hunter.

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Walt

20 October 2015

BTW,,, CNN is just as bright. The link to the story says “Elk”.

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Bill Tozer

20 October 2015

Elkmoose is found in those parts, along with wolfverines. Maybe I should give your people credit where credit is due. Boy, you Viking types are making the news lately.
http://nypost.com/2015/10/19/sorry-bernie-scandinavia-is-no-socialist-paradise-after-all/

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Walt

20 October 2015

OOOOhhhhhh…. ” Elkmoose”… I LIKE that. Get Monsanto on that. As for “Wolferines”,, that sound like one constantly pissed ex-wife. ( Or Hillary Clinton when Bill brings home a new floozy)
I like that post you found. Nope, us Swedes are not deadbeats, and know how to make quality goods.
Not quite the Socialists Progressives dream about.

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jon smith

20 October 2015

In America Alces alces are called moose, in Eurasia they are called elk. I did a stint in Yellowstone and got an earful. Coyotes were frequently “positively identified” as hyenas or jackals. Americans insist on calling their bison buffalo, so I really can’t point fingers.

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don bessee

20 October 2015

Judicial Watch released an email today that showed the white house at 911 pm on the night of the Benghazi consulate attack was going to cite a different you tube video as having incited the demonstration. The so called Pastor Jon video which is believed be the God vs Allah you tube video. They later shifted focus to the video mentioned by the usual suspects. Looking for a scapegoat? The sept 12 Diplomatic security bureaus time line mentions no video incitement and shows madam pantsuits was told on that day it was an Ansar Al Sharia act. The WH was scrambling to avoid any acknowledgement of the facts on the ground or admitting it was radical muslum jihadis that planed and executed the attack. They knew it was not some Chicago street protest against a racially insensitive video that got out of hand that became the now discredited party line talking point. Denied basic security 12 times and now this expose’ confirms blood on 0 and Hillary as well as their minions who also blocked proper precautions for the anniversary of 9/11 in war torn Libya.

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Walt

20 October 2015

Mr. Smith, You should have showed them encyclopedia pictures. A Hyena is a dog that put together all wrong. Now a jackal I can see them getting confused over and better looking than a coyote.
I still want to cross bread an elkmoose. It sounds delicious.

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Bill Tozer

20 October 2015

And they say there is no true antelope in North America as well. Jackalopes, yes. Antelopes, no. Hmmm. What is a nature watcher to do?
As far as Benghazi is concerned, Steven’s request for a minimum of 11 personnel (including security) to travel from Tripoli to Benghazi was denied by Hillary’s Assistant Secetary of State. Thumbs down to Steven’s repeated requests. This works in Hillary’s favor as she can say she did not receive any requests nor denied the requests from where the rubber meets the road.
It all had to do the upcoming elections coming up in November. Obama was getting ready for the debates with Mitt and had been spouting that Al Quieda was on the run. Osama is dead and terrorists being routed. This Libya thang kinda ran contrary to the White House line and with elections coming up. Obama left and said Hillary will handle it. Don’t know all the facts, but the relations between our National Intelligence Community, including the CIA, and State suddenly took to being a frosty relationship within days of realizing they had to bite the bullet to cover O’s and State’s rear ends.
All these investigations and no one can tell me where Obama went after being briefed. Know he went to Vegas the next day (just like OJ) to raise money, but what did the President do after he walked out of the room??? Guess it is easier to find out his collegiate transcripts of his grades and class schedules and one piece he wrote for Harvard Law Review than having my one question answered. O and Hillary’s first instinct is to be secretive and defensive. Shy away from the light, shy far away.

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