[It turns out that socialist Connecticut, one of the most leftwing, richest, and corporatist states in the Union (hedge funds, corporate headquarters, and Wall Street mavens from NYC) "has a huge pension problem' (here). "Connecticut has roughly half of what it needs to pay future retirement benefits for its workers, meaning the home to scores of hedge funds and some of the country’s wealthiest towns is wrestling with financial distress rivaling that of Kentucky or Illinois." gjr]

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233 responses to “Sandbox – 4oct15”
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Yo left wingers, far left hardcore extremists, anarchists, left of purple types, progressives, liberals, socialists, and pinkos. You better get your Hillary Tee-shirts on as all your eggs are stuck in one basket. A fate worse than a slow dead. Take heart. Hillary passed out 750 tee shirts at a recent rally. Maybe you will find one on the side of the road. Libs do litter more than the average bear.
You don’t have to love her like a lot of you loved Billy Bob Clunton. You don’t even have to like her, albeit you could try harder to warm up to her. Just send money and send it soon. She will need your help. A vote or dollar for Clinton is a vote or dollar for Chelsea’s Foundation. Sucks to be you.
http://insider.foxnews.com/2015/10/05/krauthammer-oreilly-factor-only-two-ways-hillary-clinton-wont-win-democratic-nominationLikeLike
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Ooooh!! Hot “democrat on democrat” action in the political theater!
NY MAG: CLINTON READIES OPPO-RESEARCH TO ‘GO TO WAR’ AGAINST BIDEN…
I’m all a tingle!
http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2015/10/clinton-readies-oppo-research-against-biden.htmlLikeLike
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Just like Gore in 1988 using the “race” card with Willie Horton.
And Biden in 2008 calling Obama “a nice cleancut negro”
And her attacks on Obama,
the Clinton’s are “amoral”LikeLike
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Todd,
Your first line about Gore is a LIE, perpetuated by the Bush Team to deflect criticism of their own racist strategy. It worked like a charm- racists voted for Bush en masse after that BS.
Al Gore never mentioned Willie Horton, nor used any ads about Willie Horton, during the 88 camnpaign.
So while there’s political infighting aplenty, lets not pass along outright lies. Thanks.LikeLike
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WOW! Kinda puts my “President Hollow Chocolate Bunny” reference to Barry in a different light!
Ivy League professor: Award Carson ‘coon of the year’
To vaporously paraphrase a certain former Union editor……and to imagine this person teaches in the Ivy League! My Stars!!
http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/ivy-league-professor-award-carson-coon-of-the-year/article/2573507LikeLike
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But fish, the professor babe was a black. Nothing to see here, move along. And I see the denial of Gore using Willie Horton against Dukakis again. Amazing ignoramus!
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That reminds me of the headline on a story about Clarence Thomas in Emerge, a black magazine: “Uncle Thomas: Lawn Jockey of the Radical Right.”
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Need citation please on where Al Gore specifically mentioned/used Willie Horton against Dukakis. I can give a hint: none exists. This is long debunked myth of the right. The record will show that Al Gore did question Dukakis at a debate about his parole/prisoner policies. He had no idea who Willie Horton was until Lee Atwater took charge for the GOP for the General Election.
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I draw your kind attention to the 6oct15 update of ‘Obama shoots from the lip …’.
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Citation? We don’t need no stinking’ citations!
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Do your own research you troll.
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No, Please, Todd show us your citations from Newsman, Breitbart and the World Net daily!
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“Do your own research you troll”.
I did, we did, thousands have done so over many years. Nothing exists about Al Gore and Willie Horton. So, perhaps a simple apology will suffice for falsely passing on a long-debunked myth of the right. I’m sure just a simple oversight on your part- but sympathize with anyone trying to keep all the BS straight from Red State, Daily Caller, WND, Breitbart and Newsmax.
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Posted by: Jon | 06 October 2015 at 04:24 PM
jon let me just say that the “vaguely smug political guy” persona is so much more appealing than the “at the end of a long chardy bender and chili fry fueled Pelline like self pity session while issuing badly mumbled ” Downgrade may be in the works.” threats” persona.
Just thought I’d do a guy a solid!LikeLike
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How to get trolled by the Russians!
“That just went out the window – Russia is now openly mocking Riyadh, Doha, and Washington and as if the following weren’t brazen enough as it stands, note that it emanates from the UAE… “
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-10-06/russian-embassy-trolls-saudi-arabia-twitter
Is it just me or is the outcome of every single foreign policy decision by this president similar to outcome of that of a retarded child in a room full of hand grenades?LikeLike
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Jon | 06 October 2015 at 04:24 PM
Gore said it all. I watched the debates. I would suggest you go back and watch them. All proved. You are simply a lazy ass liberal without any brains there “jon” the troll. What a hoot!
Oh you said “we did” who is we, Pelline, Frisch any other numskull you call pal?LikeLike
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Posted by: Todd Juvinall | 06 October 2015 at 04:50 PM
I watched the dates too!
The incident in question occurred during the 1988 New York Democratic Primary debate when Al Gore asked Michael Dukakis if he supported the Massachusetts furlough program that allowed convicted felons to go home on some weekends even though some of those people had committed violent crimes. Al Gore never mentioned Willie Horton, and since he never mentioned Horton he of course never mentioned that he was black.
Jon is correct and Todd is incorrect.LikeLike
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“You are simply a lazy ass liberal without any brains there “jon” the troll”.
Steve, I guess that’s merely Todd’s way of apologizing 🙂 Double-down, triple-down when nailed on facts. Sadly never progressing mentally past the 5th grade. Mr. Kesti is so spot on with his assessment of this cat.LikeLike
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Frisch you never watched them. You are not a believable person. You prove that here every time you post your bogus information.
I am correct, Al Gore said and not George H. You and “jon” should get a room.
Quoting Kesti is quite the reach. What a hoot.LikeLike
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Todd look it up . Yu are 100% full of shit.
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Gore unmistakably referred to the Horton case in a primary debate with Dukakis but did not use the Horton name or likeness, just the situation of a criminal given a couple days off from prison and committing a horrible crime with Dukakis’ approval. Atwater took it from there,
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ie, no racist imagery or to obtain racial effect. Exactly what we said Gregory.
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Posted by: Jon | 06 October 2015 at 06:58 PM
Yes exactly what you said Jon, so you are correct and Todd is incorrect, which I am sure he will now politely acknowledge.LikeLike
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I don’t care what you said, and those claiming racist imagery are essentially saying its racist to use the likeness of a horrible criminal in a political hit piece… if they’re visually threatening… and black. Had Horton been white… Jon and Stevie would be good with it.
That’s racist. What they’re pissed about was how well it worked.LikeLike
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“Had Horton been white… Jon and Stevie would be good with it.” Greg
??? No idea what that means…but your logic is amusing, to say the least.
The fact remains that a former NC Supervisor is either a certified moron or certified clown. What’s your pick, Greg?LikeLike
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Of course these two libs call it racist. Gore took Dukakis to task for allowing murderers out on holiday. So really, I am right as Gore made the claim and it was then refined by others. Frisch is an idiot as usual. “jon” is just a troll.
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What is fascinating about the Willie Horton episodes is this. The “furlough” program in place in Massachusetts experienced the horrific escape, murder and rape by Horton and was a well known case at the time. Soon after there was the debate where Gore brought it all up. And Dukakis said the “furloughs” were now no-more because the Horton case was so horrific the state;s newspapers were taking it on. So, if the two idiot libs can’t put two and two together (forgetting the Horton story prior to the debate) then of course there is no hope for them Frisch and his pal “jon” have no deductive skills or understanding. Typical of liberals.
http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/chatterbox/1999/11/did_gore_hatch_horton.htmlLikeLike
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“That’s racist. What they’re pissed about was how well it worked.”
Posted by: Gregory | 06 October 2015 at 07:11 PM
Hey moron I never said anything about the ads run by Bush, I said that Jon was correct that Gore did not run the Horton ads.LikeLike
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Posted by: Todd Juvinall | 06 October 2015 at 07:20 PM
From the Slate article Todd posted; “Gore never mentioned that Horton was black; indeed, he never mentioned Horton by name.”
Well, I think it is clear, Todd is a total fucking clown. How hard is it Todd as a 65 year old man to learn this simple words, “I was wrong”?
The furlough program was not a Dukakis program, it was put in place by Dukakis’ predecessor, Republican Governor Francis Sargent.LikeLike
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Steven Frisch | 06 October 2015 at 08:31 PM
Uh Oh, that Steve Frisch sure has a potty mouth. He of course has no skills in deduction as I pointed out. Just another liberal without a brain.LikeLike
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I put that link in to see what deductive skills Fricsh and “jon” have. Looks like none. Idiots. What a hoot!
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Here is a little something for the selective racists in the collectivist cricket corps to ignore. Don’t see our hypersensitive lefties denouncing the UPenn prof. who said ‘give Ben Carson the coon of the year award’.
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Good to see Todd quadruple-down on his obvious error. Not man enough to admit you’re wrong, eh?
Run Todd Run, Supervisor 2016!LikeLike
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Another reality check for the Frischies of the world. Eastern correctional facility debate team beat the Harvard debate team, reigning US champs who were also the 2014 world champs. Max security type felons. Topic the convicts advocated for was that public schools should be able to turn away children of illegal aliens. Do tell. So much for the citations gambit. LOL 😉
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Why do the libnuts here fail to put two and two together. My goodness, they are truly stupid apparently.
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Well, with a name like Willy and in the slammer, anyone would have a 50/50 chance of guessing Willy Horton might be a black dude. Now, that Roseberg shooter was a hard one to guess. I figured that someone taking art classes with a hyphenated last name had to be a lib chick with hairy armpits. Who would have guessed she was a he and a black dude to boot. I sure guessed wrong on the Oregon murderer, past tense of course. Think Jon was guessing a white Christian boy. We both got it wrong. Both Willy and the she/he could have avoided their fates if they just got laid before breaking the law. Relieves the pressure and take the steam out of the savage beast.
https://www.facebook.com/RowdyConservatives/photos/pb.217926015008110.-2207520000.1444194876./734137680053605/?type=3&theaterLikeLike
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Troll check, yup CCC in full effect after 90 minutes with the trolls who monitor every post speaking volumes with their silence. Not even an evasion. Very dark lord of liberal lament landish of them. LOL
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Todd @ 10:28 pm
“libnuts fail to put two and two together”. Come on Todd, that is not fair. Have them start with putting one and one together. Remember who you are talking to and cut them some slack. It ain’t their fault and it is not nice to make fun of those afflicted with the libnut disease/disorder/syndrome, aka, the broken thinker complex.
https://www.facebook.com/RowdyConservatives/photos/pb.217926015008110.-2207520000.1444194876./734137680053605/?type=3&theater
In other news which illustrates my point about libnuts with the broken thinker complex:
http://patriotpost.us/cartoons/22502LikeLike
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Hey, don’t them elitists saving the world from war and hunger get diplomatic immunity or something? It’s not like gobbling up other people’s money is considered wrong anymore.
http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/10/07/us-usa-crime-macau-idUSKCN0S01CG20151007LikeLike
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Pensions seem to falter when the younger workers aren’t paying into the program since there are fewer and fewer union members. Not paying full pensions is theft and failure to uphold a contract. Labor was performed under agreed conditions and at the end of the day Employers didn’t uphold their end of the agreement, it is theft.
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Please disregard last comment, time I don’t have this morning is needed to correct it.
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Posted by: Don Bessee | 06 October 2015 at 09:29 PM
Posted by: Don Bessee | 06 October 2015 at 10:43 PM
I seem to have missed the party last night. It’s clear from the irrelevance to the topics being discussed and the incoherence of the messages that it was a doozy. don seems to have started slurring his speech at abut 8 pm.
But we do know one thing, Todd’s idyllic upbringing as a son of Nevada County with good old ‘American values’ did not teach him to admit when he is wrong and move on. It is almost as though CARLY! is Todd in drag.LikeLike
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Steve Frisch, step away from the vodka. You are once again showing your ignorance based on a odd lifestyle and upbringing.
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I can see Todd in drag this Halloween as CARLY! stomping his foot and saying, “I’m right, I’m right!”
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Actually the Massachusetts furlough program began in 1972 under a Republican Governor, Frank Sargent. Thirty-eight other states have similar programs. The “willie horton” ad was created by an independent PAC and ran only once generating significant bad press for Dukakis despite the fact that he had nothing to do with the program’s institution. The “revolving door ad” was a spin off from the horton ad and was created and distributed by the RNC at he direction of now Fox News chief Roger Ailes (also the producer of the failed Rush Limbaugh TV show.) Very nasty but typical off the attack politics of the right based on half-truths and/or outright lies (Swift boat veterans comes to mind) put out by supposedly independent (from the official candidate and party PACs) PACs.
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Posted by: Steven Frisch | 07 October 2015 at 08:49 AM
Interesting. I see Pelline as this….
http://images.fandango.com/images/fandangoblog/LeguizamoSpawn725F.jpg
….stomping his foot and saying, “I’m right, I’m right!”
I’ll trade you some of mine for some of yours…..maybe we’ll see different things?!LikeLike
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Frisch, step away from the ballet tutu. Put down the bottle. You are an embarrassment.
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Steve, as you knows- even Lee Atwater as he was dying APOLOGIZED for the race baiting, horrific, unfair tactics he employed against GOP opponents.
Yet Todd is either (A)- a sincerely sad moron, or (B)- thinks its manly, just and the Christian Way (wink wink) to say moronic things such as-the GHWB campaign did not run Willie Horton ads.
Village Idiot personified. Will be fun to gauge his reaction after Heidi Hall’s victory.LikeLike
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Looks as if the loose cannon Ben Carson has jumped the shark as well. Cross him off from the Presidency. His loony comments will surely continue. Todd style.
So down to Marco and Carly! as GOP possibles as of now, barring a miracle.
http://www.politico.com/story/2015/10/ben-carson-explains-oregon-shooting-comment-214502LikeLike
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Posted by: Jon | 07 October 2015 at 09:57 AM
Ahhhh….that’s my boy! Glad to see you’re back to your old self!LikeLike
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