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Sandbox – 23aug15

23 August 2015

[OK, can someone besides crickets explain why farmers are experiencing a shortage of field labor with one out four black youth unemployed, along with an unknown high unemployment rate among our illegal aliens? gjr]

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304 responses to “Sandbox – 23aug15”

George Rebane

23 August 2015

DonB’s 230pm in 19aug15 sandbox – Did Uncle Joe and Lizzy meet again today?? They already met once yesterday.

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Bill Tozer

23 August 2015

Someone explain to me why farmers are experiencing labor shortages while 1 out of 4 black youth are unemployed and a bunch of illegals have high unemployment rates? Well, for a non-newsflash starter, there ain’t no farms in our barrios, ghettos, or suburbia. Also, the new wave does not like living in bunkhouses and trailer parks 15 miles from the nearest pavement. Sure, lots of Latino music on the airwaves, but this be a farm to city crowd. Closer to the services. Maybe they don’t want to work were the drought has dried up the outdoor showers and buying paper plates along with bottled water is expensive, not to mention murdering trees and who knows what they put in those machines that make plastic bottles. Not very green. Not very Eco-friendly.
The real answer is Mexico, Central America, and Latin’ Ametica’s booming economies that make hopping the fence and walking across the endangered desert tortoise’s badlands not so appealing. They are staying home working less for more pay. Or maybe not. :). People are social beings and birds of a feature flock together. The action ain’t in the agricultural zones, but where there are movie houses and bright city lights. And more women. Stay in the trades and you can rent a place with electricity on demand and indoor plumbing. Heck, let the lawn turn brown and let the veggies rot. There are women and Asian women, and all kinds of women in the Urban Rat Cages.

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Walt

23 August 2015

From 2012,,
“When pressed, most farmers and their spokespersons could not point to specific instances of California crops that were not harvested for lack of labor. Tulare County Agricultural Commissioner Marilyn Kinoshita said: “I don’t think we have a [labor] crisis on our hands.” Kinoshita emphasized that workers aim to maximize their earnings, and that complaints from tree-fruit growers of too few workers to thin and harvest their crops reflect the fact that workers can earn more harvesting vegetables.”
http://migration.ucdavis.edu/rmn/more.php?id=1692
From this year,,
“Workers could previously earn enough money in the U.S. in a few months to live comfortably the rest of the year in Mexico, he said.
Greater border security has discouraged people from returning to Mexico, prompting them to seek year-round jobs in other fields, Fazio said.”
http://www.capitalpress.com/Nation_World/Nation/20150226/expert-immigration-reform-wont-fix-farm-labor-shortage
Not even the “experts” can find the real “answer”.
As I see it the illegals today feel “we are too good for those jobs we will just take a gringo’s job that pays better.”
Or they just go into the gang business, or grow dope in our forests and outlands.

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George Rebane

23 August 2015

BillT 313pm – I guess the short summary may then be ‘When free money is available right here, why go where there is work?’ ($17/hr is chump change).

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Russ

23 August 2015

George,
Why work when the government will provide all the support you need to survive? People work when they are hungry. The blacks were raised in the welfare system from birth and they know how to game the system, the illegal get instruction on how the systems works from the Mexican government, plus they are quick learners. Why work if the government keeps you from going hungry?
You may recall he blowback from the $15.00 hour minimum wage, it resulted in people making to much money to stay on the government welfare. Workers preferred the welfare over the additional salary, which they had to WORK for. Recipients wanted their hours cut, so they could stay on the government dole.
We have created a welfare culture, not just the Democrats or the Republican, but politicians of all strips that needed to buy votes to winning the next election. We have created the cultural rot that will doom America. We are on the path to destruction that other great civilizations before us have tread to extinction. History is clear, cultural rot is the poison that destroyed all these great nations. We are next! The food rotting in the fields, when the unemployed refuse to work, is only a symptom pointing to our decline.

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Walt

23 August 2015

Now Russ. Your going to receive the wrath of the pharaoh of the foothills for that post.
I posted the same facts, and he calls me a liar. I give him the facts from many a source, but that’s not good enough. Lets see if you fair any better.
Yet not one “fact” to support his claim 15 bucks an hour is boosting employment, and getting welfare cases off the roles.

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Bonnie McGuire

23 August 2015

Whether or not it’s true….a circulating email written by a teacher says,” Do you know that we have adult students at the school where I teach who are
NOT U.S. citizens and who get the PELL Grant, which is a federal grant (no payback
required) plus other federal grants to go to school? ….I asked the CARIBE administration about their program and if you ARE a
U.S. citizen, you don’t qualify for their program. And all the while, I
am working a full day, my son-in-law works more than 60 hours a week, and
everyone in my family works and pays for our education.” Can you imagine how many other freebies there are for emigrants paid by taxpayers? But most people don’t realize how important farmers are. They feed everybody.

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Todd Juvinall

23 August 2015

Just got back and I saw theFrisch called me a pri** over on the other sandbox. He is obsessed with me and it looks like he might be a bit fluffy.
Soros stole the possessions of fellow Jews and sold them as he worked for the Nazi’s. Those are the facts. Maybe that gold from the poor unfortunates teeth and their diamond rings were used to start a fortune? Well, Steve Frisch appears to be supporting Soros so my guess is he is in equal business company with the thief.

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George Boardman

23 August 2015

George Soros was 15 years old when World War II ended in 1945. He must have been some operator.

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Todd Juvinall

23 August 2015

Yes he was, go read about him.

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Don Bessee

23 August 2015

Could have been a repeated clip from yesterday Dr. R.

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fish

23 August 2015

MORE DEMS WANT JOE
TURNING AGAINST HILLARY?

Somebody is going to set up a suicide watch for Hill if the Dems chuck her overboard!

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Walt

23 August 2015

OH Oh,,, word of a 2ND server. Didn’t she learn anything from her Nixon gig ?
They better pull her passport and for her conspirators as well.
DAMN!! With the stock market crash, not many will be in the mood to fork over money, especially for a lost cause. Those with a lick of sense, know LIBS are done. Stick a fork in’m. It don’t help one bit that LIB policies of market manipulation is also involved.
Those big donors expect something in return. No return if not elected.
“Free” schooling which Hillary is trying is a no sale. We see how “free healthcare” turned out.

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Walt

23 August 2015

LIBS have found an answer to their voting problem.
http://dailycaller.com/2015/08/23/wapo-writer-black-votes-should-count-for-more-than-white-votes/
I’m sure they haven’t given up on getting illegals the right to vote either.

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George Rebane

23 August 2015

Walt 515pm – Come the revolution Walt, you’ll have no trouble opening up a ribs place. Delicious! Thanks.

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Walt

23 August 2015

Thanks Doc. glad you liked’m. But where would I get them? And just what would I get paid???? We are all on the road to broke at the moment.

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Walt

23 August 2015

Don was right… REALLY right. Just saw some picks of topless N.Y…… So much for dinner. someone pass the bucket.

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Don Bessee

23 August 2015

One thing that our dems here don’t get at all are the ongoing shifts in china. The boss came into power in 2012, he is a hardcore son of one of the original gangsters. He has been ruthlessly crushing dissent like the 1000 church crosses demolished. The big thing is he is using a ‘graft and corruption’ campaign to consolidate power by executing corrupt officials. The list of heads rolling is stunning. The vacant RE bubble is what is going to be the big bust when it exposes all the zombie loans propping up GDP. He is getting criticism from the commie official mouth piece newspaper and that is clear there is now a power struggle with the business owned by the army and other state interests. This is the real problem that could cause instability. Instability worse than the North Korea sortieing their subs. May you live in interesting times.

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Steven Frisch

23 August 2015

Todd there is a special place on the 5th level of Dante’s inferno for you.

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Walt

23 August 2015

Wow Steve, tell us all about it. From what we can tell, you live on level six.

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Don Bessee

23 August 2015

Another insight into the shining lights of the left @ 545pm OH YA, CCC squared.

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George Rebane

23 August 2015

Walt 527pm – Well, dogs, coyotes, bears, and horses have ribs too.

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Walt

23 August 2015

You DO have a point. Asian BBQ anyone? Bear? too greasy.
Yes,, there is always chicken.

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fish

23 August 2015

Posted by: Walt | 23 August 2015 at 05:15 PM
At this point Walt I’d just prefer to write a bunch of checks and put it behind us!

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Walt

23 August 2015

News out from the Warren/Uncle Joe meeting.. ” You running? No,, not me. How bout you?? NO way..But you need to.. No!,, don’t look at me, YOU run!”

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fish

23 August 2015

Like the fourth circle of hell, the fifth circle–presented in Inferno 7 and 8–contains two related groups of sinners. But whereas avarice and prodigality are two distinct sins based on the same principle (an immoderate attitude toward material wealth), wrath and sullenness are basically two forms of a single sin: anger that is expressed (wrath) and anger that is repressed (sullenness). This idea that anger takes various forms is common in ancient and medieval thought. Note how the two groups suffer different punishments appropriate to their type of anger–the wrathful ruthlessly attacking one another and the sullen stewing below the surface of the muddy swamp (Inf. 7.109-26)–even though they are all confined to Styx.

I don’t know Todd….the neighborhood might grow on you!

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Todd Juvinall

23 August 2015

LOL!

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Todd Juvinall

23 August 2015

It appears Frisch is rabidly defending the scumbag Soros. I wonder if SBC gets any of his blood money?

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Bill Tozer

23 August 2015

blood money is in the eye of the beholder.

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Bill Tozer

23 August 2015

Come on y’all. We are all children of the universe and each one of us has a right to an ass backwards opinion. We are all equal in The Universe’s eyes.
https://www.facebook.com/RowdyConservatives
Now, why do some people get all the fun? It’s not fair I tell ya.
https://www.facebook.com/Gunsoftheworld/photos/a.580706178651891.1073741829.579267778795731/879050708817435/?type=1&theater
I’ll tell you whatz not fair. Living downstream of an EPA cleanup. How come the EPA gets to have all the fun?
It ain’t easy being green and living downstream~~~Kermit the Frog

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Bill Tozer

23 August 2015

Oops, blew that one. We are all equal
https://www.facebook.com/RowdyConservatives/photos/a.217983685002343.55586.217926015008110/717926288341411/?type=1&theater
Well, now we have the big picture.

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Bill Tozer

23 August 2015

Never realized that this is turning into an epidemic. Just a little white lie.
http://patriotpost.us/posts/37111
You know what? Black manners matter.

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Walt

23 August 2015

Our LIBS have run for cover. Over in the Lefty safe zone?
This is what usually happens when facts are required of them.

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Todd Juvinall

23 August 2015

Gasoline $2.58 in Roseville today.

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Bill Tozer

23 August 2015

Now it is just like any other commodity. Akin to selling computer chips by the ton.
http://247wallst.com/consumer-products/2015/08/22/marijuana-price-jumps-14-to-1942/
The times they are a’ changing. Now, if the drought continues……local agriculture may be impacted. Heard water guys are buying more trucks. 🙂

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Walt

23 August 2015

So “weedman” St. is up.. It usually is a month or two before harvest season.
It should be a little more bullish when the raids pick up.

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Walt

23 August 2015

OK Bill, your the designated MJ market watcher. Stay on top of the “highs” and “downers”.

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Walt

23 August 2015

If I read the stock futures for the morning bell right,,, it’s going to be a blood bath.

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Bill Tozer

23 August 2015

Hey, Walt, I am too scared to look, not! I haven’t bothered to follow Wall Street basically all this year. Nope, I got mine on autopilot. One never loses a penny until he sells. Like gold, it’s for hoarding and not to be shared. :). Like gold, stocks you pull out once in awhile and play with it, rub it in your hands, enjoy its magic glistening, and put it back in the mason jar. Heck, I had the physical stock passed down hanging on the wall in an apt for awhile. If a burglar ever broke in then, he would think it was just a kid thing hanging there among other Disney characters and pay it no mind. A closer examination reveals the old work of art on them ole stocks and the trained eye would see 100 shares of Disney stock bought at the par value of 2.5 cents each. Yep, I be foolishly old school. I don’t even look anymore. I got everything on autopilot.
Warren the Buff was asked if he had any regrets about his transactions. He shot back without missing a beat , “Yes. Every stock I ever sold.”
Every speck of gold I sold a long time ago, but kept a few Chinese artifacts and turn of the century bottles. My favorites are the Hires Root Bitters bottle (machine made but I like it) and the hand blown little Chinese medicine bottles of opium. cute.
Darn it Walt, now I think I am coming down with your gold fever. I want to play with nuggets and pieces by candlelight again.

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Steven Frisch

24 August 2015

“Why work when the government will provide all the support you need to survive? People work when they are hungry. The blacks were raised in the welfare system from birth and they know how to game the system, the illegal get instruction on how the systems works from the Mexican government, plus they are quick learners.”
That’s right, we have a shortage of farm workers because blacks and Mexicans are lazy.

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Todd Juvinall

24 August 2015

Steve Frisch, then you are a racist with a statement like that. You should be shamed.

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Bill Tozer

24 August 2015

Maybe we got a shortage of farm labor because we have a shortage of farms. The workers own the factory, right? Every year there is a story of some WA apple grower who had a storage, a coastal farm that can’t find workers to pick his strawberries and just like clockwork, you can bet your bottom dollar that some Asian reporter will be covering the Chinese New Year for the major media outlets. Montana does not seem to find any shortage of huckleberry pickers, though. Odd.
Hey, maybe the farm labors got retrained and are now trimmigrates. Beats sweating under the hot sun bucking bales. Maybe the pickers turned puckers and are on the county fair concert tour or doing the traveling Worldfest gig. Maybe they will only go where they are connected to the worldwide web. It does change the way we communicate. Maybe they went postal. Where have all the flowers gone, long time passing?

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Todd Juvinall

24 August 2015

Those unemployed men of all races and cultures should be required to go work in the fields in exchange for that welfare check and all the other “programs” they get from the taxpayers. Streets need sweeping, homeless campers need help. This list is long.

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Bill Tozer

24 August 2015

Changing gears, looks like it’s time to put a fork in the Republican Party again. Toast. Nothing but a group of old white geezers. The party of old school, the party of those eligible for Social Security retirement benefits. No diversity, the face of the aged elderly old farts. Opps, wrong party. The face of Curtis Walker.
http://pjmedia.com/tatler/2015/08/22/obamas-legacy-an-old-weak-democratic-party/#undefined

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Todd Juvinall

24 August 2015

Ted Cruz did a smackdown to a stupid Hollywood actress who sneaked in to “debate” him on homosexual and other deviant lifestyles. My goodness it makes a Christian proud that he stands for his beliefs! All while he was cooking pork chops at the Iowa State Fair. America!

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Bill Tozer

24 August 2015

Cruz is one intelligent man and quite the multi-tasker. Bet he could handle two e-mail accounts at the same time. Want to debate homosexual issues young starlet? Ok, let’s start with this:
https://www.facebook.com/RowdyConservatives/photos/a.217983685002343.55586.217926015008110/718637741603599/?type=1&theater
Hey libbie/progressive/commie/socialists: Do you think sound decision making is a good or bad quality of leadership?
https://www.facebook.com/RowdyConservatives/photos/a.254420818025296.63999.217926015008110/718401071627266/?type=1&theater

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Bill Tozer

24 August 2015

If the Republican Party is doomed, why are so many Democrats scrambling to save their party?
http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2015/08/chuck-schumer-iran-deal-121605.html#.VdtUNcRHaK0

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Walt

24 August 2015

Now is “O”‘s chance to nationalize even more private companies and banks. It supposedly worked for GM.
When will the FED step in and fix things? ( ooppss,, this is already part of their handiwork.)
I’m pretty sure they is plenty of yell’n at Yellen today. ( Queen of the FED)

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Walt

24 August 2015

Once again the taxpayer is footing the bill for the ECO bastards not so bright ideas.
When will THEY be held accountable and made to pay for their own boondoggle?
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2015/08/24/taxpayers-foot-bill-to-retrieve-sunken-tires-from-failed-offshore-environmental/?intcmp=hpbt3

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Bill Tozer

24 August 2015

Walt at a quarter til noon.
You got to be pulling my leg, right. Checked the source twice thinking it was something from The Onion or NC Scooper.
Retrieving the tires does bother me in the least. What really set my radar off was how we dispose of reef tires. Send them north to be burned in the hot stack to generate green electricity?? Geez, who came up that brilliant idea. If that is how the game is played, why not burn coal to create green energy, and a lot easier than pulling 30 tires at a time from the Ocean floor. Maybe send the tires to S. Africa where the rioters always run short of good old rubber tires after their “burning necktie” street parties.
What the heck are the dirt worshippers thinking. I can only conclude that the enviromentialist are better at fixing things on dry land and should leave the streams and creeks and oceans to those who have graduated from the 3rd grade. And what is this horse puckey about the shredded bits of tires are good mulch for the garden? Sure, simply certify tires shreds with the organic seal and I might cover the plants with tire ribbon mulch. Yeah, rigghhttt.
Anybody out there like the green idea of putting old tire mulch around your veggies? Yum, yum. Bet the mulch lasts longer than crushed nut shells, pine needles, or that smell ripe stuff in the compost bin. Always a silver lining.

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