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To understand the workings of American politics, you have to understand this fundamental law: Conservatives think liberals are stupid. Liberals think conservatives are evil. – Charles Krauthammer

George Rebane

Students of American history agree that President Lincoln was the prime instigator of federalism’s decline and the growth of Washington’s power over our land and lives.  That the times called for such a reorientation of our body politic is still being debated, but the assumption of the path to collectivism is today denied only by those most ardently at work who promote progress on that same path.


Prior to our misnamed Civil War, America was a more or less cohesive society as far as governance was concerned.  Washington affected little of what went on in the states and counties, and even in the territories – of course, transportation and communication technologies of the times had a lot to do with that.  Visitors to our land observed, spoke, and wrote of the marvelous local control of their lives that was maintained by that cohesive and copasetic population.  The only apparent fly in the ointment was slavery, but ultimately that was enough to rend the country which required the first modern continental war to stitch it back together into a form in which all the pieces have still not knit correctly.  And that itself gave rise to many people looking for Washington to keep applying more stitches in an attempt to recreate a cohesive but now compliantly conformable country.

That such a direction was for the benefit of society took strong root in Europe after the French Revolution.  By mid-19th century political philosophers (e.g. Marx, Bastiat) were in full debate over the benefits and faults of collective vs liberal governance.  And by the end of that century organized movements toward what we may call popular or democratic collectivism, anticipating a global scale, were in full swing contributing much to the angst of strong authoritarian central governments.  For the first time in history, the common man was taught and came to believe that he was due a much larger share of his nation’s wealth, and perhaps even the wealth of neighboring nations.  In the 20th century we witnessed the deaths of nearly half a billion people in the quest by sovereign nation-states to emplace and exercise collective power over individuals.

After WW2 the world shattered into more sovereign nations, which number again multiplied after Soviet communism collapsed as the last century ended with America as the world’s unquestioned leading hegemon.  But in the last twenty-five years that fragmentation has stopped and movements are afoot to again accrete territories by force so as to again create large global hegemons.  Curiously in this process America has donned the heavy Mantle of Past Sins, and is doing everything possible to rapidly become the last among equals while choosing the now obvious policy of leading from behind – which is to say, not leading at all.  And as that beat goes on, it continues to divide us into cohorts that wish America to become a compliant global citizen – a 'peer among peers' – and those who wish America to remain the exceptional sovereign nation-state and beacon of benevolent governance that it has been for the last two centuries.

However, as I have attempted to make the case here for some years now, such a future for us as a strong Westphalian state is becoming less likely with every passing year.  Ever since the late 1940s, when the American socialists folded their party in favor of the Democrats, our political center of gravity has been moving steadily leftward.  The overwhelming cause of this has been the ideological course of the progressives (cum socialists), now fully in charge of the Democratic Party, but also the contributing come-along compliance of the Republican leadership, ever willing to trade principle for propitious polling.  One can and I still do argue that the Right has not moved leftward nearly as far as has the Left in our country.  But given the astute assumption of control over public service (government and education) unions by the Left, the electorate has become appropriately gruberized (a most timely label to describe the aggregate intellect) during the span of the last two generations.  Most all of us look to Washington for some part of our daily maintenance and quality of life.  And our local political leaders are today more facile than ever in convincing us that there is no hope for halting the growth of Leviathan; all we can do is pop an occasional palliative by passing a proposition or initiative expressing our will to be overturned later by the courts.  Best to go along to get along, and get used to it.

I was talking to the wife of a prominent leader in local government last night.  She is an educated working woman like so many today who proudly announce their disdain for politics and things political.  I asked her how she informed herself in order to vote, and she answered that just before the election she reads the online editions of the nation’s popular news magazines  – “Time, Newsweek, and US News”.  In the interval, the lady manages her daily affairs which include volunteering in community organizations that all bend leftward.  And she is typical - there are so many of such good people who give no thought to how in such organizations they are constantly bathed in an ideology that not only successfully resists examination, but also does not reveal its presence, while the organizations resolutely maintain that they are apolitical.

A correspondent alerted me to a recent piece by Joel Kotkin – ‘More local decisions usurped by ideological regulators’ – that focuses on a corroborating aspect of the above commentary.  In it he writes –

Nothing is more basic to the American identity than leaving basic control of daily life to local communities and, as much as is practical, to individuals. The rising new regulatory regime seeks decisively to change that equation. To be sure, there is a need for some degree of regulation, notably for basic health and public safety, as well as maintaining and expanding schools, parks, bikeways and tree-planting, things done best when supported by local voters. … But the current regulatory wave goes well beyond traditional methodology. It reflects policies more akin to those central planners, who, as Chapman University researcher Alicia Kurimska suggests, dominated city planning in the once-massive Soviet bloc.

Kotkin’s essay is worth a read and reflection.

[update]  Given Trump's popularity before the debate, and his improved post-debate poll numbers now being released, I think it's important to bring up a long-held perception by local progressives (you know, the ones glued to MSNBC).  These neighbors have been denigrating our right-leaning commenters and your humble commentator for years as having fastened on to a sclerotic, closely held, and rare view of what has happened to our country and the direction on which it is currently hell bent.  In this we have gone to considerable lengths outlining our intense dissatisfaction with the direction Washington is taking us, and by imitation where Sacramento has similarly betrayed California.

Well, the Trump phenomenon has now put to rest the gross ignorance and baseless accusations that our views are those of out-of-touch angry curmudgeons stuck in some never-was past.  It turns out that there are tens of millions of our fellow Americans who share our disquieting assessments.  And so the question remains, who has been out of touch with the beliefs, attitudes, and experiences of a major cohort of Americans.  Will there be a mea culpa in the works?  Nah, not even close.  In light of how the other side thinks and reasons, none of this will impact their worldview one iota – bet on it, since their lamestream is already leading the way.

[11aug15 update]  Jo Ann and I attended Congressman Doug LaMalfa’s town hall meeting in GV City Council chambers this afternoon.  The seats were pretty much full of people deciding to spend a beautiful day listening to and talking with their MoC.  It turned out that, led by Nevada County Democratic Party Chairman Jim Firth, the hall was pretty much a get together of liberals.  In their turn they were surprised to see the congressman in Nevada County, and expressed their appreciation of the fact and their ability to talk to him in person.  That was the first hint of how out of touch those neighbors were with even local happenings.  LaMalfa is a regular presence in our county, and his visits are regularly announced in The Union and on KNCO.  Were I more focused on local issues, I would throw RR into that group, but alas, I have been remiss.

It was to be a two hour meeting – 230 to 430pm – but we were able to last until only 4pm when we quietly departed with severely bitten tongues.  It has been quite some time since I heard from so many ill-informed, and some just plain stupid, people all gathered in one room.

LaMalfa started the meeting with a review of salient points concerning the Iran deal, NorCal forest management and water issues (focusing on the proposed Bear River dam), and ‘climate change’.  That took only about 30 minutes and then he opened the floor to questions – hands sprung up like a field of weeds after an early spring rain.  The questions came from blatantly hard left neighbors, each wanting to make a speech about their heartfelt issue before a question on the topic could be pried out of them.  They all bared their worldviews and their strong indelible truths.  Could we have kept track, literally every progressive shibboleth, sound bite, and talking point was voiced.  And each person believed more firmly than the last that his recital contained God’s own truth (or the secular humanist’s moral equivalent of that).

The congressman kept his cool – no doubt having been through this kind of wringer before – and quietly, if not with some generous meandering, answered their various outrages.  Some of the more intense leftwingers reached their tolerance thresholds when they saw that they could not elicit a rise out of LaMalfa.  Individually and in small groups they began leaving the hall, some shouting that they had never heard such utter lies and propaganda before from a public official.  For them the debate was clearly over on more than just man-made global warming.

What struck me from their monologues, especially when they quoted purported facts, was how little they had read or been exposed to anything other than the emotional reports from their favorite priests.  Their voiced reasonings were twisted beyond comprehension, so much that I had to start thinking that this turnout was a biased sample that Mr Firth had somehow assembled for this afternoon.  These people could not be representative of the population of local Democrats, this had to be a particularly deprived assemblage.  But then again …

Finally, noting the absence of air sickness bags in the seat backs and still wanting to maintain decorum, we were forced to take a rather hasty leave after one poor lady launched into a tirade about the jails being filled with women arrested for killing their male partners because they were locked in abusive relationships which offered no other exit.  So this was our most recent exposure to the people who make our county politically ‘purple’.  God help us every one.

[12aug15 update]  Speaking of the looney left at yesterday's meeting, a correspondent who also attended sent me the following email – "I attended the LaMalfa townhall yesterday.  A little bit into the meeting, a person behind me started shouting at LaMalfa and calling him a propagandist etc.  The person sounded like a loon!  Screeching loudly as they left.  I did not turn around and so I did not know what the person looked like.  Now I read in the Union this morning it was Linda Campbell.  Honestly, this woman is on the school board?  She is nuts!  (she also sounded like a male voice as well)"  Ms Campbell has already left her unique mark on our community and in these pages (here).

 

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157 responses to “How the gulf between us widens (updated 12aug15)”

  1. Steven Frisch Avatar
    Steven Frisch

    Posted by: Todd Juvinall | 16 August 2015 at 02:22 PM
    Yes, look at your PG&E bill. All of the proceeds from PG&E sales of surplus carbon credits (remember they get credit from allowance proceeds equaling the amount above their allowances they reduce) should be showing up on your utility bills as a credit every April or May and October or November. PG&E credits last year averaged $25 per household per period, or $50 per year. If you normalize your bill to avoid seasonal spikes it should be showing up in your formula.

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  2. Todd Juvinall Avatar
    Todd Juvinall

    Carbon credits eh? Yep, a real good socialist fiasco you are responsible for. Create a make believe problem, global warming, make a new currency with the building block of life, carbon, and start making “money” to disburse. Except no one is buying! Yeah Frisch, you socialists have all the answers. My goodness, do you really believe what you believe?

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  3. Steven Frisch Avatar
    Steven Frisch

    Posted by: Todd Juvinall | 16 August 2015 at 02:44 PM
    Not only do I believe it, it’s on your PG&E bill and your Republican Assemblyman’s District got about $14 million in Cap and Trade funding in the first round of grants. Didn’t I see him standing in a meadow getting a big fat check for SYRCL? 🙂

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  4. Steven Frisch Avatar
    Steven Frisch

    Here is a list of the projects funded in AD 1 through the Cap and Trade program in the most recent round of funding. There is an additional several million in Prop 39 funding for energy efficiency ins schools, and several million from DWR in water savings grants that also reduce GHG emissions that are not listed here.
    I guess the point I would make is that since AB 32 and the Cap and Trade program are policy now, and attempts to eliminate it have failed, you all should get on board for getting our fair share of funding in our region. It only makes sense.
    CAL FIRE – Urban Forestry and Forest Legacy Grants
    (Awarded July 7, 2015)
    News release:
    http://calfire.ca.gov/communications/downloads/newsreleases/2015/2015GHG_Grants.pdfAward list: http://www.fire.ca.gov/grants/downloads/GHG_Grants.pdf
    Rainbow Ridge – $225,000 Assembly: Brain Dahle Senate: Ted Gaines
    Caltrans – Low Carbon Transportation Operations Program – Cycle 2 Funding:
    (Awarded July 1, 2015)
    News release: http://www.dot.ca.gov/hq/paffairs/news/pressrel/15pr066.htm
    Expansion of Express Services
    Shasta Regional Transportation Agency – $62,657 Assembly: Brian Dahle
    Senate: Ted Gaines
    Gold Country Stage Fare Incentive Project Nevada County Dept of Public Works – $27,626 Assembly: Brian Dahle
    Senate: Jim Nielsen
    Highway 267 TART Year-Round Service Placer County – $38,608
    Assembly: Brian Dahle
    Senate: Ted Gaines
    SGC- Affordable Housing, Sustainable Communities Program
    Awarded June 30, 2015)
    News release: http://www.sgc.ca.gov//docs/Press_Release_2_AHSC_Program_06302015.pdfAward list:
    http://www.sgc.ca.gov/docs/Attachment_A_AHSC_Award_Recommendations_FINAL.pdf
    Truckee Railyard Downtown Corridor Improvements Project Truckee Development Associates-Truckee: $8,000,000 Assembly: Brian Dahle
    Senator: Ted Gaines
    California Department of Fish and Wildlife Wetlands Restoration for Greenhouse Gas Reduction Program
    (Awarded April 30, 2015)
    News release: https://cdfgnews.wordpress.com/2015/04/30/cdfw-awards-21-million-in-grants- for-greenhouse-gas-reduction-projects/
    Award list: https://www.wildlife.ca.gov/Conservation/Wetlands-Restoration
    Yuba Headwaters Meadow Restoration, ($600,000 to the South Yuba River Citizens League)
    Legislators: Asm. Brian Dahle and Senator Ted Gaines
    Mountain Meadows Restoration Project at Greenville Creek and Upper Goodrich and Effects on GHGs, ($700,000 to Plumas Corporation)
    Legislators: Asm. Brian Dahle and Senator Ted Gaines
    Middle Martis Creek Wetlands Restoration, ($600,000 to Truckee River Watershed Council)
    Legislators: Asm. Brian Dahle and Senator Ted Gaines
    Truckee Meadows Restoration Project, ($1.5 million to the Truckee River Watershed Council)
    Legislators: Asm. Brian Dahle and Senator Ted Gaines
    CalTrans Low Carbon transit Operations Program “Early Bird” Projects
    (Awarded April 27, 2015)
    News release: http://www.dot.ca.gov/hq/paffairs/news/pressrel/15pr039.htm
    Award list: http://www.dot.ca.gov/hq/paffairs/news/pressrel/docs/earlybirdprojects.pdf
    Increase service on Route 30 Expansion of service to link Tahoe’s North shore to South shore. Tahoe Transportation District DAC Benefit: $ 34,128 No
    Legislators: Asm. Brian Dahle, Frank Bigelow and Senator Ted Gaines
    SCT Operating Assistance for New Rte 26 Service New system will link Oceano (a transit dependent community) to shopping, jobs, medical, educational and other services. South County Transit $ 97,348 DAC Benefit: No
    Legislators: Asm. Brian Dahle, Frank Bigelow and Senator Ted Gaines

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  5. Walt Avatar

    Yup,, money theft through “fees” ( tax) to fund (grant) losing propositions.
    Not to mention the Gov.’s train to and from nowhere.
    Not hardly a dime has been spent for water retention.
    Just what is harmless CO2? PLANT FOOD.
    Whatever draconian feel good ECO activities we do in Ca. has NO real effect. Follow the wind Steve,, Our air comes from over China way.
    I guess you missed the news where “we” up in these here hills get the blame for what Frisco and the bay puts up.
    Go blow your AGW out your Southern hole.

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  6. Todd Juvinall Avatar
    Todd Juvinall

    Yes Steve Frisch, thanks for the list of the great socialist experiment here in California. Taking the money out of the mouths of the poor and putting it into biomass projects so we can pay for really expensive electricity. My goodness, you people are too much.

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  7. Walt Avatar

    I can’t WAIT to hear what President Trump has in store for the AGW scams.
    Like,,, NO MORE grants to questionable ECO groups, who’s CEOs rake in huge salaries?

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  8. Walt Avatar

    What? Hillary got kidnaped from the LIB fair booth? ( so they say)
    I say it was an inside job to drum up sympathy to the LIB plight.
    Maybe she was charging too much for a photo op.

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  9. Walt Avatar

    One more thing to remind you of the great LIB thinking. Recall the “thug protection act”?
    (prop 47)
    http://www.breitbart.com/big-journalism/2015/08/16/prop-47-california-has-lighter-sentences-more-crime/

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  10. Gregory Avatar
    Gregory

    Crabbman’s 4:06 hit the button… there really isn’t anything wrong with subsistence agriculture if you don’t mind being poor.
    Regarding Frisch’s AB32 and Cap and Tax cheerleading, it will last until the people figure out the key is they will pay more for less energy and no positive change in climate will be a result. For now, it’s a shell game being played in Sacramento and they are hoping to muddy the waters long enough to bridge phase 2:
    Phase 1… force expensive alternative energy production
    Phase 2… ???
    Phase 3… save the planet with clean profits and cheap energy for all

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  11. Steven Frisch Avatar
    Steven Frisch

    Wind power now cheaper than coal…..
    Phase 2…..spur an advancement in technology that creates market transformation and makes clean power cheaper than dirty power…:)

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  12. Todd Juvinall Avatar
    Todd Juvinall

    BS

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  13. Walt Avatar

    Now that’s a good one Steve, Those turbines can’t even pay for themselves before needing replacement. Try living near one smart guy, those that do can’t stand the low frequency noise they put out. Then of course there is the endangered birds they kill. There is PLENTY of documented proof of all of that. So go blow some more hot air.
    And before you start in on solar, the big solar plants just ain’t living up to their billing. Now they need natural gas piped in to keep working. So much for that scam.

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  14. Steven Frisch Avatar
    Steven Frisch

    Posted by: Steven Frisch | 16 August 2015 at 07:09 PM
    I am encouraged by the fact that the entire actual energy industry and everyone with any credibility measuring tis output disagrees with the two of you. I’ll take them over your back porch prognostications any day.

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  15. Walt Avatar

    You mean the ones getting taxpayer money to keep running? ( subsidies)
    Nice try. Yup,, when you get free money, one would be all for it.
    ( just like someone else we know that lives of OPM. ( other people’s money) )

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  16. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    My, this post by Dr. Phd’ed Rebane is indeed about the gulf that widens us. Just look at His Lardness. Opps, it’s the gulf between us widens. Sorry, my mistake.
    Anywho, it’s getting ugly out there as the gulf widens, I am shocked at this kind of behavior.
    https://www.facebook.com/RowdyConservatives/photos/a.254420818025296.63999.217926015008110/715389811928392/?type=1&theater

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  17. Steven Frisch Avatar
    Steven Frisch

    Posted by: Walt | 16 August 2015 at 08:42 PM
    Ha, Walt, the difference between you and me is that I am worth more in the marketplace 🙂

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  18. Walt Avatar

    That’s the best you got? Your just a snake oil salesman. I actually accomplish something.
    A Vegas street hooker is more honorable than you.( and worth more in the marketplace)
    Let’s see how your pet wind power holds up when the subsidies run dry. ( yup,, getting cut off from the money tit.)

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  19. Gregory Avatar
    Gregory

    “Wind power now cheaper than coal.” – Frisch
    That is a use of the word “cheaper” of which I was previously unaware. Tell the Germans and the Chinese, too, since they are both building modern coal plants at the moment.
    Nothing Steven Frisch does will spur a brainstorm in alternative energy engineering. A technology that can actually take the place of coal and nuclear fission might be 5 years away, 50 years away, 500 years away and chanting or wind and solar drum circles will not speed that up one bit.

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  20. Gregory Avatar
    Gregory

    The actual energy industry operating in a country whose central government is hostile to coal does what they need to do. Germany and China are both building large modern coal generation plants because they need them. We need them, too.
    Steve, in figuring the costs of alternative energy, how does one asses the value of the dead birds that collect below wind turbines and in the vicinity of solar furnaces like Ivanpah (which apparently also burns natural gas much of the time).

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  21. Jon Avatar
    Jon

    On Saturday, July 25, 2015 Germany set a new national record for renewable energy by meeting 78 percent of the day’s electricity demand with renewables sources, exceeding the previous record of 74 percent set in May of 2014.
    Greg, you really are out of your league on the subject of renewables in the US and Germany.

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  22. George Rebane Avatar

    Jon’s 915pm report was a ‘one shot’, nothing sustainable was demonstrated.
    SteveF’s litany on the sustainability of renewables rings hollow since we see no for-profit corporations clamoring to enter the industry, nor do we see the increasing market caps of those already there. It is all held up by government subsidies of one type or another. The proof is in the market.
    None of this says that wind and solar cannot some day be profitable absent government help in draconian regs and direct money subsidies. But that day definitely has not yet arrived. Citations to the contrary from NYSE, Nasdaq, or similar exchanges would be appreciated.

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  23. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    Oh Steve, here you go again. You remind me of when Billy C. from Hope won the White House. All his bright eyed bushy tailed newbies walked around the White House and one exclaimed “that means we are in control of the fighter planes!’
    This is what I feel you are saying:
    Hey, you old white farts, it’s called progress, a big word. Go look up the meaning before you inbred hillbillies open your ignorant pie holes. Get in line or move the heck out of the way. This is the way of the future whether you old guys on their rockers whittling pocket knife handles like it or not.”
    Well, a grain of truth here. Yes, we are going green. Probably soon, new solar type products on the market that will be customer friendly, appealing, simple, reliable, and a great idea. Right now, Mr. Frisch, your goods you are peddling are still in Sony’s Beta player days. Cost a grand way back then. It’s called progress. So, I want you to do all the work first, then push me in my wheelchair to the vista overlooking The Promised Land.
    Like the young Clinton newbies, you and your band of merry men are saying we control the EPA, the BLM, Forest land, and all dry creeks! Wow. And the purse stings to everything green. Luckily nothing too bad as far as foreign policy happened under Slick Willy, pun intended. So, this dumb Redneck won’t stand in the way of progress. Make it as cheap as the sun. Problem solved.
    Snake oil salesman? Good one Walt, you ignorant hillbilly you. 🙂

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  24. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    Hey, all you old white geezers, let’s take a peek behind the curtain.
    http://news.yahoo.com/ap-exclusive-california-measure-fails-create-green-jobs-050919689.html

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  25. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    Now, this is just downright unfair. It could never happen here, thank goodness. Looks like the greenies took one on the chin. But, but, but, they signed the UN Human Rights piece of paper. Guess that what you get when you look like a white liberal.
    http://upsidedownworld.org/main/ecuador-archives-49/5424-ecuador-stop-the-deportation-of-manuela-picq

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  26. Gregory Avatar
    Gregory

    http://energytransition.de/2015/07/renewables-covered-78percent-of-german-electricity/
    Sorry “Jon” but that week in Germany had coal reigning supreme… only a few hours had unusually strong winds.

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  27. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    “At the end of July, the storm Zeljko passed over northern Europe, causing considerable wind damage and flooding in some areas. Here in southern Germany, however, it was a relatively sunny day. In the north, where it was windy, Germany has most of its wind turbines installed. In the south, it has most of its solar. The combination of sunny weather in the south with strong wind throughout the country is rare – and led to a new record”
    So, a rare event led to the new record. hmmmm. That is kind of like the Olympics. It is not a matter who can jump the highest in the the world, run the fastest, or throw the hammer the farthest, it is merely the one the can jump the highest, run the fastest, or throw the furthest on a certain one day event that gets the gold.

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  28. George Rebane Avatar

    Apropos to my 946pm, the progress of green energy, green industries, and green jobs is constantly overstated by proponents like Mr Frisch. Russ Steele reports on the green jobs situation in the last sandbox and presents this AP report and link –
    SACRAMENTO, Calif. (AP) — Three years after California voters passed a ballot measure to raise taxes on corporations and generate clean energy jobs by funding energy-efficiency projects in schools, barely one-tenth of the promised jobs have been created, and the state has no comprehensive list to show how much work has been done or how much energy has been saved.
    http://apnews.myway.com/article/20150817/us-green-energy-promises-9d6a0af60a.html

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  29. Todd Juvinall Avatar
    Todd Juvinall

    AB32 and “cap and trade” are the biggest scam in recent memory. The poor get hosed to pay into the “pot” and the state doesn’t know how to spend this largess.

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  30. Walt Avatar

    I’m sure Steve will just blame the state for not consulting “him”. Maybe Brown recalls the worm farm fiasco.

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  31. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    Oh Stevie & Co, it’s Billy. Where are you guys. I just got back from old sawbones’ office and read a article and thought of youse guys.
    http://www.weeklystandard.com/articles/epa-doubles-down_1006574.html
    Ok, what do you think? Is it true the the new Clean Power Act is omitting conservation as a goal? Hmm. Turn a 4 legged stool into a 3 legged stool with the snap of a bureaucrat’s fingers. More conservation is good, not bad, I foolishly figured. But, if some states can claim conservation programs that reduce energy consumption, I guess that means they might meet their percentages of fossil fuel reductions and not take us as quickly to The Promised Land. Gotta thrown them actually energy conservation efforts out with the baby in the bath water.
    You know, Steve and his herd of greenhorns, I have been conserving energy all my life. Grew up taking Navy Showers. Run water and turn off. Soap down, then turn on water to rinse off. Turn lights off everytime you leave a room. No AC on during heat waves unless a special guest comes over, etc. I am doing my part and I ain’t alone. So, it looks like conservation efforts interfere with The Big Picture. Natural gas is next in your sights?? You guys are after the grind, not just “reducing dependence on fossil fuels”. The little guys who are doing their part are actually messing with the master plan and I suppose the only way to get clean power is to scratch the little guys’ efforts off the list. That way it won’t dilute the figures of how we are doing on the way to the Brave New World.
    Remember all those PSAs about making sure you have the correct tire pressure. A property inflated tire would save the nation 3% gas comsumption, or was it 3% better gas mileage. Oh those radio ads extolled the virtues of what a 3% increase in GPM would mean for our country, saving millions upon millions of barrels of imported foreign oil. It was a big deal cause hardly anyone was dutifully checking their PSI daily, weekly, or monthly. A very big deal.
    Then you guys come along and say ethanal is the new way. When folks stated saying that their MPG is declining and they are paying more for less. Well, the greenies came back with “its only 3%, no big deal.” You represent and defend some messed up people, Mr Frisch. Now it’s not counting the %s of energy saved due to conservation. That’s is really messed up. How about a little honesty about your Big Picture, eh.

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  32. Don Bessee Avatar
    Don Bessee

    The Dept of State filed court papers that report to the Judge that 20% of Hillary emails (of those known from the turn over pre server hand over) have been reviewed and there are over 300 that are flagged as classified so far. drip, drip, drip. Bob Woodward talking about this being like Watergate tapes saga. Bernie up 8 points.

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  33. Walt Avatar

    Just add insult to injury,
    http://dailycaller.com/2015/08/17/report-epas-global-warming-rule-could-kill-thousands-of-people/
    ““The EPA’s climate rule has no discernible impact on climate change and may cause thousands of premature deaths in the United States,” according to a recent report by the free market Institute for Energy Research (IER). “The EPA relies on faulty data to make exaggerated claims about the benefits of a rule that will cost Americans hundreds of billions of dollars and plunge millions of families into poverty.”
    Yup,,, the ECO bastards are doing wonders for people. You fools in cahoots with the “over populists”?

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  34. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    Yo, Steve. Your people need to come up with a new design. Just took the back road home. Guess what I saw on a normally scenic drive down a country lane? A gawd awful ugly field of solar panels some idiot put right near the road. Talk about butt ugly. Is this your plan for “open space”? Hideous site, plus they knocked down all the trees and raped the native vegatation from the face of the earth. Critters like the underbrush which is home to many a songbird and quail beneath. Kind of like Crazy Dougie advocating that every square inch of open space between here and NSJ be covered with solar panels. Did you ask the wildlife what they thought of that?
    Call me a former roofer as a young vagabond. First thing I did when I bought this place was get on the roof and toss those satellite dishes as far as I could throw them, then patched up the holes they left. No way am I going to put them solar panels on a perfectly good roof. And not out the back deck either. Image gazing at the golden glow of a sunset and having to squint cause a bunch of butt ugly panels below are reflecting the sun up into your eyes. No way.
    I am land clearing/thinning/trimming the back 40 very carefully. I need a defensible space for fire protection, privacy, aesthetics, wildlife habitat concerns, and other considerations before one branch of brush is lopped. Park it out here, leave privacy screen there, save the flora when possible. So, I started to cut one badass brush and some small oaks and a couple of pines down yonder when I noticed the prettiest little birds were living in abundance in the bush. I dropped the oaks a pines but left the bush cause I care deeply about wildlife habitat. Then some Yahoo drives by peddling a field of solar panels that will drive the wildlife away from the back deck. No way, Jose. My power bill has been 48 clams a month for the last 3 months due to conservation. I was into drought tolerate plants before it was cool. I attachtons of pollinators and create mini-wildlife habitats which we need.
    So, here is my suggestion. Come up with some solar panels or turbines that are not so friggin big. No bird shredders, no massive plots of mirrors, and nothing that covers the roof and back 40, and is as ugly as 75 year old hooker that just got ripped off. Make it smaller and give it some real aesthetically pleasing to the eye design and wildlife friendly. That is a mean green machine I could get behind. And make it cheap, cheap as dirt. It would be a hit. Remember those huge monstorous satellite dishes folks used have in their yards? About 8 feet across and was even considered a status symbol back in the day. Now dishes are getting smaller and small and nicer looking for those of us with discriminating tastes. When you stop pushing those big honking ugly solar panels, give me a call. Until then, I am happy to listen to the songbirds and hummingbirds, listen to the hum of hundreds of bees, and watch the deer, hare, and occasional bobcat wander by. It for our children and our children’ children and for the little lady who hates looking at open space littered with solar panels as much as I. Make them nice and small and pretty and a heck of a lot more dependable and energy efficient. You peddle some messed up products, Steve.

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  35. Walt Avatar

    What gives? The two “working” LIBS have yet to post on their boss’s time like they usually do. And with all this nice red meat to chew on! ( Or week old cabbage if their veggie munchers)

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    Todd Juvinall

    I think they were repossessed. Or maybe they gave up getting whooped all the time by all of the po-dunkers here?
    Paul Emery, please cut and paste the part of the platform currently in place on the RNC that you don’t like regarding pro-life.

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  37. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    Todd, your last post should be moved over to the “how much for an arm and a leg?”pro death comment stream. 🙂

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  38. Walt Avatar

    Back to the subject of deviation, Gold Rush days has been canceled. Seems our history is unpopular with the ECO crowd.
    “Our hope is to spend time exploring concepts for an improved model for Gold Rush Days. A model that will promote our rich history while expanding new components to include the arts and hopefully attract a much broader demographic.”
    Caution… REVISIONISTS AT WORK.

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    Gregory

    “Greg, you really are out of your league on the subject of renewables in the US and Germany.” -“Jon”
    “What a maroon! What an ignoranimus!” -Bugs Bunny
    Jon, nice of you to stay away after pulling that unsupportable boner. Faced with actual data showing how much of hard and soft coal and nuclear energy was used in Germany before, during and after the wind bonus filled their sails for a few hours, you ran away.

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  40. Walt Avatar

    “jon” must be relying on wind power today.

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  41. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    Gold Rush days cancelled? What in the tarnation is going on? No taking the kiddies on a sweltering hot day to Gold Rush Days so they can get their toes wet and cooled off as they pan for some salted gold for a half hour and pretend they are back in the Davy Crockett/Daniel Boone/Geronimo Days if but for a few moments? Oh, a child’s imagination is the building block of learning. Guess if it is fun, then it is no bueno.
    Suppose we will be stuck with the horror stories of the “Chinese Paydays”. You know, how the evil White Man would herd the Chinese working on the railroad into a tunnel on payday and give each a shot of hot lead as compensation. Oh boy, the kids would need to see a shrink after the libholes change Gold Rush Days. Well, some might like the stories, therefore it is best to withhold judgement.
    News Flash. I have been reprimanded!!!! Totally off topic, but I got my pee pee spanked at work. Was in a meeting and the topic of the late Charles Bronson came up. Actually, the topic was beware of rattlesnakes and someone like moi mentioned a movie Charles Bronson played where there was some rattlesnakes. After learning something new on this site, I causally mentioned the little known fact that Charles Bronson was a Pollock. Oh, wrong thing to say. Big big no-no. Can’t say Pollock anymore. Must be on some new list of racial forbidden terms. You could have cut the air with a knife after I dropped the P bomb. Had no friggin clue I committed the PC sin.
    So, in case you are all just as unaware as this savage brut was, we must say in the future that Charles Bronson was a person of Polish descent. More words to type, but never ever type or utter Pollick again. Also got schooled that Jap is another violation. To me Jap is just short for Japanese, not a slur or dig or racist comment. But, nooooo, I was told I cannot say Jap. Doesn’t matter in grade school our text about the history leading up to World War II was titled The Japs are Coming. That argument did not fly and I got my pee-pee spanked again.
    This wide gulf is darn hard to traverse.
    Oh, this gulf that widens is sooo hard to bridge. I am doing my best to speak New English, but I have a long way to go to get it right. And just when this old dog leRns a few new tricks, they change the definitions and naughty lists all over again. Please, bear with me as I am dragged into our brave new world. Thank you.

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  42. Walt Avatar

    Don’t feel too bad Bill,, some people pay good money for that.(uh) so I hear.

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  43. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    Walt, I got sent home with pay for the next two days as my punishment for saying Pollock. What’s your excuse? :). Ok, how about some ideas for the new and improved Gold Rush Days. Hmmm. How about a historic tour of the still standing uninsulated old homes on wood foundations. We could start with Barrel House Bessy’s…Opps…the former California restaurant done burned down. Ok, how about another of the many houses of ill repute. How about taking the kiddies over to the GV cop shop and showing them the house right next door to the police parking lot. The good folks would disembark from the old Greyhound Bus terminal at what became the Gold Bowl and head over to the whore house at the corner of Steward and Main, aka, city hall. The chief would stand there and if you did not look like a scumbag, you were allowed in. We have always protected and kept our womenfolk safe here. And they were quite the entrepreneurs.
    Or how about walking down Race Street. Tell the kiddies the story of how it got its name. When it was payday for the miners at the Empire Mine, them rascally miners would hop on their horses and race each other down to the nearest bordello. Last one in is a rotten egg.
    Oh, such a rich history. And the Maidu were not here first. It was some other group of savages. At least my people never ate acorns and we definitely were not vegheads either. We were warriors. That is why Steve’s EPA is still trying to poison us to this day.
    Yep, maybe taking about the arts is a better idea. Maybe someone could spend 45 minutes explaining what the heck that mural on the Del Oro really is saying to each of us. Us old angry white farts know that under the PC mural is a sign that reads Heart of the Gold Country. Remember that sign that read Timber, Nevada County’s Renewable Resource? Gone with the wind. That was sooo old school.

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  44. Walt Avatar

    Now don’t forget Bill, GV was a pioneer in mass transit. ( We had street cars on rails!)
    Gold Rush Days scare the hippies. It makes them look bad. The miners and loggers were real men. Nope, no swinging an axe or pick for the hipsters to make an honest buck. The closest thing to art back then was a tin type photo.
    They women sure did dress classy.
    Today the only real whore houses is the County offices. You still get screwed but good, but not a kiss to be had. ( Unless you count the asses of the BOS)
    Yup,, the “good ol’ days are gone.. as they say,,, History….

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  45. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    History is so un-PC. Instead of nixing Gold Rush Days outright, they should just move the event to the more hospitable confines of Pollock Pines. Maybe shuttle folks over on some solar powered cucumber shaped Magic Buses with a few wind turbines mounted on top as a backup plan. If the kiddies start crying about Tweetie Bird becoming shredded tweet, just tell them……well, make up a big fat whooper to tell them. It’s always the innocent who get hurt the most.

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  46. George Rebane Avatar

    Gentlemen, you have not been paying attention. The responses you seek have already been duly delivered by the Collectivist Cricket Corps. All is well.

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  47. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    Yours there seems no need to respond to such an excruciatingly dull topic Surprising to me is that none of your regulars attempted to support the Republican platform on abortion from 2012 which has since been dropped

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  48. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    George the dull topic was not the one that you started this post with but what it quickly evolved into.

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