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Sandbox – 9aug15

09 August 2015

[One year ago in Ferguson a white policeman killed a black criminal called Michael Brown who had just robbed a convenience store and then beat the policeman whose gun he tried to take. In the altercation the policeman shot Brown, and the incident started the 'Hands Up, Don't Shoot!' riots and the 'Black Lives Matter' movement to protest the killing of blacks at the hands of white police (more here). The policeman was subsequently exonerated of any wrongdoing. But the movement has been grown by the progressives, using other more suspicious police killings of blacks, to divert the attention of those living on The Plantation from the horrendous number of murders they commit on each other – in short, to divert attention from the blatant truth that black lives really don't matter. All this to keep Team Obama's racial warfare agenda in high gear, and the blacks solidly in the Democrat camp. By any and all measures applied, our African-American population remains mired in what may be termed the lowest of low-information cesspools, thereby making up the most reliably compliant block of voters the Left has. And the Democrats will do everything necessary to maintain this state of affairs. gjr]

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Bill Tozer

09 August 2015

Well, with a Barry leaving office and not running again, the important black voting bloc always counted on by the Dems are suddenly unchained. Don’t think Hill can keep them all corralled up on the plantation for ever. Plus, signs of white women leaving the Dems and heading over to the cheating side of town, aka, leakage.
So, with all this possible leakage going on (blacks leaving the res and white women leaving just as Hill is leaving her snail slime trail everywhere, what’s a good Libhole to do? Double and triple down on the race card. There seems to be no politically correct way to wage a politically correct campaign.
https://www.facebook.com/RowdyConservatives/photos/a.217983685002343.55586.217926015008110/710105225790184/?type=1&theater

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Bill Tozer

09 August 2015

Clarification. The vast marjority of Afro-Americans will vote Democrat no doubt, but not in the numbers and percentages that Barry carried. Don’t think we will see The New Black Panthers intimidating Philly voters like the last time around when there was no incumbent running for the Oval Office. 6 or 7% less Black votes could tip the scales in a nail biter. Food for thought.
Black Lives Matter aren’t your typical Libhole social justice group. They ain’t asking for boatloads of money per se. Nay, they want change. Real change. Employment opportunity, better schools, cops wearing body cams, that sort of thing. Cutting more checks will not satisfy them, which is the only thing Libbies know how to do.
Nothing scares the white liberal elites more than the angry black person. Now that Black Lives Matter is carrying signs that read WHITE SUPREMEIST LIBERALISSM, them libholes are having the living day lights scared out of them. And when liberal progressives get called out, they turn rather nasty. Just look how the blacks on the street treated black representatives during the Wall Street protests and especially how Black Lives Matter turned on the old guard of The Civil Rights Movement in Baltimore. Like BLM is saying to white supremeist liberalism and liberalism in general, “Hey, you ain’t the boss of me.” Things will get ugly as the libbies have backed themselves into a corner. BLM wants results more than cash. That is something the party of the Big Tent is incapable of delivering.

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Bill Tozer

09 August 2015

What? Don’t Brown and Yellow lives matter?
http://news.yahoo.com/accessing-care-especially-difficult-latinos-medi-cal-175312486.html
https://www.facebook.com/RowdyConservatives/photos/a.217983685002343.55586.217926015008110/710805092386864/?type=1&theater

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Don Bessee

09 August 2015

Did anyone see the female scum bags that ripped off magnolia school? What upstanding citizens, the story reads like a comedy script. Cops get clue, show up at house only find stolen golf cart and a felon with stolen firearms. Friend pulls up in a stolen car and the cloud clears and she realizes what she drove into and flees. Caught after short pursuit. Apples not at the property, likely already traded for drugs. More work for the public defenders and soon to be given a break by the local judiciary.

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Bill Tozer

09 August 2015

Well, I will be. Time for Walt to do the happy dance. So, again, the reported death of Mr. trump has been greatly exaggerated. New polling out on The Debate Sunday afternoon, shows the canadates’ before and after Thursady’s debate.
Carly when up fourfold from 2% to 8
Rubio up
Trump went from 21% to 22%. Surprisingly to the dumbfounded media, Trump is gaining steam with Black Women. Give em’ Hell.
Romney vs Obama debate viewers: 4.5 mill
Thursday’s Republican Debate/: 54 mil. largest viewed non sporting event in the history of cable TV.
Without the Donald probably 4-5 mil viewers. Naysayers, you are fired. Go Walt.

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Bill Tozer

09 August 2015

On the trail, Bernie drew 15,000 at the night event in Seattle. Filled the Basketball Arenea.
Hillary’s biggest draw so far: 4,500 (at her Kickoff Event, the Sequel).

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fish

09 August 2015

From another guy I like who recently returned to blogging…..

In the decades I have been eligible to vote for president, I have never voted for a Democrat****. Not once. But if Joe Biden should through some fluke of chance (or cruel jape of God) win the Dem nomination, I will be really, really tempted to vote for one. If only because, with every bill of the past coming due, every fiscal lie of the past being revealed, and every secretly-acquired infection of the past bursting into a pus-filled boil on the ~~foreskin~~ forehead of this nation, what’s the worst that could happen?
We’re going to find out anyway. So why not have some fun with it?

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Bill Tozer

09 August 2015

Well, Uncle “that’s just ole” Joe did call for Iraq to be divided into 3 parts. Kurds in the north, the region currently controlled by ISIScycle, and Bagdad, the new Kobel. Looks like Uncle Joe called that one year’s ago when he threw his hat In the ring. Now the parts are fighting over their own oil fields Share the oil revenues among themselves and you have yourselves a 3 part country. Heading that way.
Never would I ever have dreamed that a San Francisco Mayor would utter such things. My gawd, did he just to a reality check or what?
http://www.sfgate.com/opinion/saunders/article/San-Francisco-s-summer-of-urine-and-6430084.php?google_editors_picks=true

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Bill Tozer

10 August 2015

Hmmmm. The legacy of the Michael Brown Fergensen thing is the complete sandbagging by the Obama Justice Department for political purposes. The administration’s racist policy and the purposefully withholding of evidence to insure riots with property damage and personal injury to go on LONG after having all the indisputable evidence and waiting until after the upcoming elections in November to release its facts. Didn’t do the libs or the administration any good as they got their butts kicked in those elections.
The Justice Department sent 83 FBI agents to fan out and do every conceivable interview with any possible witness or witnesses of hearsay. Within a week they knew what happened. They knew the story that a cop driving down the road does not stick his left arm out the window and grab a huge 300 lbs man by the neck and collar him to the ground. All those witnesses were found to be spouting bold face lies. Any and all investigators/interviewers of witnesses knew they were lying and proved it. No cop on earth in a sitting position in a car would ever try to do such a foolish and dangerous maneuver.
The Justice Department knew within days that Hands Up Don’t Shot never never happened. They knew from numberous witnesses that Michael Brown approached the cop in the squad car and started punching him, beating him. They knew Michael Brown reached in and grabed Officer Wilson’s gun by the fact that Mr. Brown’s blood was on the handgun.
Eric Holder and President Ovama and even Al Sharpton also knew after Michael Brown walked away and then turned back and started to charge the police officer he had just beaten in the head. Silly me. I thought there was only one credible witness to Brown’s pivoting after the wrestling match and charging the officer for the 2nd time. Heard is was a nice clean credible articulate likeable black fellow. Come to find out that Holder had dozens of credible witness to the shooting and the story of Mr. Brown’s last unwise charge at the officer. Yet, they kept it under wraps and let mayhem ensue because of the elections coming up in the fall. Justice was not blind in this case. She closed her eyes to the truth and was both deaf and dumb to hard cold evidence they held under raps and finally released…..months later.
That is the legacy of Michael Brown. If he had not gone off the deep end and was alive today, he would be sitting in prison for the strong arm robbery he had committed just before he drew his lasts breaths. And one police officer has lost his job, totally unemployable anywhere as no businesses will take the risk of backlash for hiring him. Darren Wilson is living off the charity of friends and strangers as he tries to sort it all out.
One year later Fergensen has a black police chief/ commission.. The recall against the mayor failed, but another one is in the works. The areas and small communities around St. Louis have seen crime skyrocket, including Fergensen. The legacy of Mr. Brown is that you need not listen to the cops anymore. St Loius itself has seen crime soar 62% this year.
The legacy of Fergensen one year later is that crime is running rampant and the cops’ hands are tied in those pockets of crime infested areas. Every town and city has a pocket or two of crime ridden areas. But now it is spreading “across the tracks”
Soon Fergensen will be run solely by liberals. And black liberals. The good white folks and neighbors will have enough of the crime and move out. The good black folk of Fergensen will have enough of the crime and follow the whites and move to where the white folk live. Then, it will be like Detriot, a total uncontrolled jungle run by black liberals. It will be like Baltimore, like pockets of Chicago, like pockets of Oakland, like anyplace where liberals and black liberals are given the keys to the city.
And as a result, Fergensen with be just another formerly nice town that you avoid when taking the kids on an outing…especially the towns and areas where the formerly small pockets of crime have mushroomed into widespread criminal activity with criminal politicians now running the insane asylum. In short, the legacy of Mt. Brown blowing his top will be another uninhabitable town/city run by black and white liberals.
The legacy is that of a politicalized racist Justice Department, the ruining of the life of an innocent police officer doing his job, the withholding of crucial evidence to fit the narrative, and the rising crime wave as a direct result of demonizing LE and hero worshipping a man who committed multiple felonies within an hour.
That quiet town in the Midwest is going to hell in a handbasket. Time to move outta there. That is Fergensen one year later.

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George Rebane

10 August 2015

BillT 1020am – An excellent review and prognostication Mr Tozer. The entire incident and its portents need more reflection as the gruberized blacks are again called into the streets by their plantation masters – anything to divert attention from the decades of failure that progressive governance has inflicted. And we do know that you were really talking about Ferguson 😉

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Walt

10 August 2015

I don’t know about a “happy dance”,, but what happened with Trump wasn’t pretty.
People have seen that “debate” for what it was and they are not happy. Not one of FOX’s more “fair and balanced” moments. A GOP sanctioned “hit job”.
People who “donate” big money don’t do it out of love and charity. They EXPECT something in return. Trump is spending his own money. The GOP string pullers may be left out in the cold, and down big bucks.
Seems B.Carson is also on the GOP hit list. He is getting shunned by the GOP as well.

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Bonnie McGuire

10 August 2015

Thank you BillT for the update on the war within America. Depressing watching a repeat of the tribal wars destroying Africa last century now going on in America for the same result.

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Walt

10 August 2015

Well,,, if they want their “black lives to matter”,, don’t shoot at cops.
Now one of “O”‘s top Blake women goes on her own shooting rampage. How this didn’t get swept under the rug is a wonder.
An assistant to President Obama who was recently described by a White House official as “even-keeled” has been arrested after she allegedly stole her U.S. Capitol Police officer boyfriend’s service weapon and fired one shot in his direction during a heated argument this weekend.
Police say that Barvetta Singletary, who currently serves as special assistant to the President and House legislative affairs liaison, invited her boyfriend over to her home in Upper Marlboro, Md. on Friday.
http://dailycaller.com/2015/08/10/even-keeled-white-house-staffer-arrested-after-shooting-at-boyfriend-with-his-own-gun/
Another improperly stored weapon, where a lunatic can get her hands on it. What? NO trigger lock?

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fish

10 August 2015

May the good people at MIT be on to something!
http://www.laboratoryequipment.com/news/2015/08/reactor-design-may-bring-fusion-power-closer-reality?et_cid=4731033&et_rid=210304530&location=top

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Walt

10 August 2015

WOW!! The EPA sure pulled a boner. They just polluted the Colorado river.
Look at all the future jobs! From studies to decades of “monitoring”.
the real drawback, is that us taxpayers will foot the bill.
Maybe the EPA can pay for it by diverting funds from their attack on coal.
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2015/08/09/navajo-nation-epa-spill/31384515/

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Bill Tozer

10 August 2015

Mr. Walt. A happy dance is in order. Trump took a body blow and came up swinging even harder. Apologize to women and girlie men?. Not in his vocabulary. Might not even know the meaning of the word apologize and probably don’t care. He won’t lose any sleep or popularity over it.
Trump did make one mistake that will be hard for The Donald to not do again. First question out of the box was personal and personally directed right at the whites of his eyes. You attack Donald personally and he will show ya how he will respond. He took the bait. He responded forcefully and with a touch of humor with his “except Rosie” retort. Twas not pretty, but, neither is barroom brawls. He did good enough all things considered.
Now the nation is gapping about synchronized menstration of all things, lol.
Trump is full of energy, full of confidence, full of enthusiasm and full of himself. That is why Trumpmania is sweeping the country. Americans love the self assured straight shooting kick ass dude on the white horse with boundless energy, confidence, enthusiasm, and hell bent on bring the bad guys to justice. The bad guys in Donald’s eyes are the Chinese unfair trading policies, an uncontrolled border, political correctness that is tearing apart this country, etc. Ride em’ cowboy, There is a new Sherrif in town with a list of bad guys in his sights he wants to bring down.
No use repeating why the unpolished one has struck a large cord. He has been in most American’s homes for years now with the Apprentice. People tuned in to see who Mr. Trump would fire this week, to see what The Donald would do next, and nobody argued with his decisions. They waited through the whole long show each week just to see what The Donald would do at the end of the hour, patiently and painfully enduring through those last commercials to see The Trump in Charge.
Now, Donald is applying for the job as an apprentice, yet Donald being The Donald, he is sitting on the boss’s side of the table. That is why people are drawn to him.
The main thing that concerns me about Trump is how he stacks up against boring Hillary right not. Not even close, Hillary would take him to the cleansers if the election was held on August 11, 2015. Yeah, and we all believe everything we read, right?
Well, Walt, your man just took an hit below the belt followed by a left hook that would have left every other campaign in the race reeling In the dirt gasping for air. Would have been Boom, Boom, Out Goes The Lights for most. Trump didn’t even need to dust himself off as he leaped back into the saddle bypassing the stirrups. Yippie I-O! and Get along little doggies. Or as George Throughgood sang, “Move over little doggie. the big ole dog is moving in”.
A note to the wise. Best to pull down real hard on your seat belts. It’s going to be a bumpy ride through the turbulence.

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Walt

10 August 2015

This is where Crabb would start drawing his peasants with torches and pitchforks marching on Capital Hill, ready to string up the “political ruling class”.
One thing to notice. Trump isn’t promising any freebies and free rides.
He is the pure form of ‘Capitalist”,, and that’s what built America. ( What the Left has worked to tear down)
Nope Trump apologizes for nothing. Unlike the rest of the spineless politicians.
One email from someone claiming to be “offended”,, the apology tour hit’s the road.
Real America is done with that. Nope NO three bathrooms in Trump land. ( He/She/It)
Trump: ” you have a hole or a pole… FIGURE IT OUT!”
The GOP needs to take a reality check. Their string pulling days are numbered.
That’s how the LIBS gave us “O”,, over Hilary the first time. ” Dems.,, We your masters know what’s best for you (us) You WILL vote for “O”” and they did. ( Good little minions Progressives are)
Here on the Right,, we like to think for ourselves. No,, we WON’T be obedient and vote for who “you” think is best. ( sorry Jebb,, not happening)
Todd likes his guy, ( who has good potential as well) and I like mine.
I’m just fed up with career politicians. I’m ready to try a ballsy business man. He sure can’t do any worse than what we have now.

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Bill Tozer

10 August 2015

Well, Mr. Walt, some of my neo-con acquaintances do find The Donald rather polarizing, as if that is a bad word. Let’s see what they are saying at Trump’s expense, shall we. We know the Donald can take it.
https://www.facebook.com/RowdyConservatives/photos/a.217983685002343.55586.217926015008110/711139639020076/?type=1&theater
My response to that is:
https://www.facebook.com/RowdyConservatives/photos/a.254420818025296.63999.217926015008110/711055155695191/?type=1&theater

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Bill Tozer

10 August 2015

Ok, time to lighten up a bit. This one is for Gregory:
https://www.facebook.com/RowdyConservatives/photos/a.217983685002343.55586.217926015008110/710968922370481/?type=1&theater
This one is for be just because it’s off topic:
http://patriotpost.us/posts/36748

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Bill Tozer

10 August 2015

More apologizing going on. But not from Trump.
http://thinkprogress.org/election/2015/08/10/3689728/after-repeated-protests-bernie-sanders-releases-racial-justice-platform/

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fish

11 August 2015

EPA NIGHTMARE: Anger Rises Over Estimate of Colorado Toxic Water Spill…
Agency’s credibility threatened…
Credibility……?

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fish

11 August 2015

Well I know one little lefty political junkie who is going to be fully turgid……..
ELECTION 2016
RICK PERRY STOPS PAYING ALL OF HIS STAFF
‘Money is extremely tight’
One down….and what…..18 left?

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Bill Tozer

11 August 2015

Walt @ 11:35 am, yesterday 8/10/15
Ben Carson on the Republican hit list? Good, that means he is going something right.
http://finance.yahoo.com/news/unexpected-republican-candidate-surging-big-201442577.html
Not saying he is my guy as I remain uncommitted. Way too early. The libs like jon are right. Walker looked small. Everyone looks small when The Donald enters the room. 🙂
Think I might even take a closer look at Hillary. Yep, just did. Looks like she is on qualudes.
http://news.yahoo.com/clinton-trump-way-overboard-post-debate-remarks-210821587.html

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Steven Frisch

11 August 2015

Posted by: Walt | 10 August 2015 at 03:08 PM
How typical that people would blame the EPA for the Gold King Mine disaster. Of course there is no comment about the fact that Gold King is just one of 22,000 abandoned mines in Colorado alone. The re are 40,000 in California. That the toxic legacy of the mine was left for taxpayers to take care of in the first place seems to miss everyone’s radar screen. No mention of the fact that the Animas River, or “River of Souls” was already just one of hundreds of waterways in the west deemed dead or dying because of past mining practices. No mention that we the taxpayers are left with tens of thousands of mines and mills to clean up.
Thousand of these mines, albeit few as toxic and dramatic as Gold King, and hundreds of mill sites exist in our own back yard. Sulfur Bank, Leviathan, New Idira, Lava Cap, Iron Mountain, Blue Ledge; the names are a romantic reminder of our past.
I am not an apologist for the EPA here, they should have had better safety measures in place to prevent an accidental spill like this that occurred while they were assessing the contaminants left in the mine for future clean up, but lets be clear, the accident would not have happened if the mine owners had been responsible for their toxic legacy in the first place. But that was 100 years ago, No going back and dunning the mine owners, their money is undoubtedly spread across hundreds of people and thousands of accounts.
The lesson here really is that if we keep letting people leave a legacy of toxic exposure as a normal part of doing business we are just passing the cost off to future generations of taxpayers. No better example of why we have regulation exists than this.

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fish

11 August 2015

Posted by: Bill Tozer | 11 August 2015 at 07:50 AM
Think I might even take a closer look at Hillary. Yep, just did. Looks like she is on qualudes.
I’m so disappointed in my gals performance…..looks like she’s rehearsing for a remake of “A Weekend at Bernies”.
So stiff, waxy and lifeless!

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George Rebane

11 August 2015

fish 602am – The National Propaganda Radio’s morning newscast had an extensive piece on the toxic waste spill into Colorado’s rivers. It told of how downstream towns are going to alternate sources for municipal water while being helped by the EPA to monitor toxicity levels. Not one word leaked out of that report identifying the EPA’s role in causing the toxic spill. All this abetted the progressives’ mantra that ‘Government is good, more government is better.’
Along the same vein of socialist communications, we find out that California labor laws will now have the word ‘alien’ expunged from its lexicon. Sacramento’s Hispanic legislative contingent has concluded that ‘alien’ has a negative connotation for many illegal aliens by calling to mind that they are illegal aliens – foreigners who break our laws. In our daily refined Newspeak such anti-A21 and anti-reconquista notions should have no place since they give rise to thoughts already politically incorrect and soon to become subversive.
Today’s global socialists are well practiced in the application of Sapir-Whorf and its main tenet that language is the progenitor of thought. Orwell was well aware of S-W and incorporated it as the driving principle of Newspeak in ‘1984’ – if you can’t say it, you can’t think it, and therefore you can’t do it. Union dominated public education has embraced S-W for decades, and taken it even one level higher in their teacher education programs – if your teacher can’t say it, she won’t think it, and therefore can’t teach it. Sweet!

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Bill Tozer

11 August 2015

Steve, what people are saying about the EPA “disaster” as you put it, is the EPA sat on this for over 24 hours and had to come clean after pictures of kayakers paddling in orange foamy water appeared on social media. They could have at least notified downstream communities and local juristitions within a few hours. When they finally did, the EPA said it was a million gallons of dodo carrying heavy metals, not the 3 million gallons they fessed up to as evidence from the victims down stream emerged.
At least Durango was smart enough to cut off that drinking water source and switched to another source of potable water while the EPA was twiddling their thumbs in the war room figuring out how to do damage control.
Big Brother is not very nmblle, nor ever has been. Heck, even NID has a rapid response team on the ready. Sure the EPA does as well….after they get the ok from Washington.

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fish

11 August 2015

Posted by: Steven Frisch | 11 August 2015 at 08:06 AM
I am not an apologist for the EPA here…
Your first paragraph says otherwise.
Gold King was abandoned in 1991 I believe……plenty of time to remediate the site….especially if you were to employ many of the locals thus overcoming the main reason for the community resisting the elevation to Superfund site status.
Is there still money in the Superfund or did we give it all to the attorneys?

“It’s ironic in a lot of ways because, typically, when big, iconic things happen like this, they spend a huge amount of time trying to throw gasoline on the fire,” Mr. Kish said. “They always tell us they’re right, everybody is wrong. In this particular case, they’ve got their hands full.”
The spill has prompted threats of lawsuits from American Indian tribes and others who say the EPA must be held accountable for damage to the environment. Lawmakers on Capitol Hill also want answers from the agency, which has admitted full responsibility for the incident and has begun a mammoth cleanup effort.
“It has been five days since the spill and the EPA has failed to answer important questions, including whether the polluted water poses health risks to humans or animals,” said Rep. Lamar Smith, Texas Republican and chairman of the House Science Committee. “It is concerning that the agency charged with ensuring that the nation’s waters are clean is reportedly responsible for the toxic water spill at Gold King Mine. A spill of this magnitude could be devastating for the families who live nearby and depend on the Animas River in their daily lives.”

Funny how the press releases from EPA read so much like the press releases from BP after their recent unpleasantness in the Gulf of Mexico.

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fish

11 August 2015

Posted by: George Rebane | 11 August 2015 at 08:27 AM
First rule of crisis management….circle the wagons and point rifles outward!
Hadn’t heard about Sapir-Whorf (I’ll have to check it out) but I do enjoy the discussions in 1984 about the conscious narrowing of the range of human thought. I think Orwell would be horrified that his masterpiece would be used as an instruction manual rather than cautionary tale!

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George Rebane

11 August 2015

fish 843am – S-W has been much covered in RR over the years. Here are a couple of pieces.
http://rebaneruminations.typepad.com/rebanes_ruminations/2011/02/english-going-going-gone.html
http://rebaneruminations.typepad.com/rebanes_ruminations/2007/12/when-you-own-th.html
On the minimum wage: Did everyone hear the latest report from Wendy’s. The new higher minimum wages across the land are causing Wendy’s to reduce the number of low paid workers employed in its franchises. This repeats the announcement by McDonald’s which along with other fast food purveyors is replacing labor with machines as fast as it can. Wendy’s says it will follow suit. I don’t think the minimum wage was supposed to work that way for the unskilled starting to climb the economic ladder.
Of course none of this will make an impact on the intellectually compressed legislating liberals and their local lackeys who have tattooed on the inside of their eyelids, ‘Taxes, regulations, and costs don’t affect business decisions.’

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Bill Tozer

11 August 2015

The good news here, Steve, is your expressed concern for the taxpayers. That lifts my spirits immensely. No worries. Rest assured the taxpayers will be paying for the EPA accident. Accidents happen and the do-do rolls downhill. Where would we be without the taxpayers? Probably up the creek without a paddle.

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fish

11 August 2015

Posted by: George Rebane | 11 August 2015 at 08:54 AM
Your two links were from before my time at RR. I will investigate now that you’ve pointed them out though!

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Todd Juvinall

11 August 2015

EPA agents should be tried for pollution just like they do citizens. Think it will happen? Naw!

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Walt

11 August 2015

LOL Steve! Go ahead. Bitch about mining. If it wasn’t for mining, you wouldn’t have the ability to spew forth your hypocritical BS. Just where did all the parts for that computer come from? THE GROUND.

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Todd Juvinall

11 August 2015

Walt, that is why he is viewed as a hypocrite fool. The left is just plain idiots.
If he weren’t real, you would have o make him up as a example of leftwing nuttiness.

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fish

11 August 2015

In the lets put this into context category…….
Japan National Debt Rises To New Record ¥1,057,224,000,000,000
Japan has 1 quadrillion yen+ worth of debt. It would take you approximately 31 million years to count to one quadrillion.*
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-08-11/japan-national-debt-rises-new-record-¥1057224000000000
US debt plus contingent liabilities…..around 200 Trillion!
* Assuming it took 1 second to verbalize each number.

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Gregory

11 August 2015

The EPA admits culpability for the breach that polluted that river in NM (the governor heard about it not from the EPA but from an Indian tribe who noticed the plume), and if it were a private concern that incompetently caused such a spill and didn’t bother to notify the authorities the Steven Frisch’s of the country would be hounding them into bankruptcy to mitigate all damages, real and imagined.
We have our own minor environmental Catch-22 here in Western Nevada County on county owned land. The Grass Valley Airpark for years had a spot where people could wash their airplane, a task similar to washing a car, except milder detergents are used, airplanes get washed less often and airplanes tend to leak less oil. We’re not talking about commercially used airplanes, we’re not talking jets. Just small airplanes with one (a few have two) engines that typically weigh less than the typical Chevy and have less body surface than the Winnebago your neighbor owns. The value of these planes tends to be between $15k to $100k, about the range of value I estimate for the cars parked at the Rude Center.
Rain falls on the airport, and the airport (again, owned and operated by the County of Nevada) has a permit that allows the rain to flow off the airport and it costs a bundle, a chunk of public money flowing from one pocket to another. Now, the permit details the terms of operation that affects runoff, and there is one perfectly reasonable clause:
“#27: The State Water Board recognizes that certain NSWDs should be authorized because they are not generated by industrial activity, are not significant sources of pollutants when managed appropriately, and are generally unavoidable because they are related to safety or would occur regardless of industrial activity.”
The inspectors working airports in the state have decided that washing an airplane is industrial because it results in pollution, which effectively guts #27. That the average person washes their car where a bit of soapy water finds its way to storm drains is doing exactly the same thing doesn’t count, probably because they’d have people in an uproar if they tried to claim washing one’s car was “industrial”.
In short it would seem that, by the judgment of Water Board inspectors, a bear taking a dump in the woods is “industrial” activity. Hey, but all it takes to make them happy is a $100,000 capital improvement to the airport that won’t really result in a measurable lessening of Simple Green in storm runoff, but it does justify a few phony baloney jobs. In the meantime, KGOO management has had to forbid anyone from washing their planes.

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George Rebane

11 August 2015

Gregory 1232pm – Have the Supes been brought to bear on this ridiculous problem? And what have they done to help?

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Walt

11 August 2015

( Pointy stick time) Remember those gold dredgers in our creeks and streams? Those guys did the environment a favor by REMOVING heavy metals from those creeks and streams.
The Stevey “Wonders” of this state just too blind to see that.
News flash ECO bastards,, Mercury is a naturally occurring element in these here hills.
But is a great excuse to kill a little money making. Your damned pot grows do more damage to the ‘environment”.

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Gregory

11 August 2015

George, the Supes have the Airport Commission in place to keep airport problems from ever reaching the Supes, and the County really has no recourse. The Airport Commission wants to go ahead and build the filter and charge users for it to keep really horrendous fines from being levied, exactly the sort of thing the Airport Commission is supposed to keep from happening.
The problem is State Water Board functionaries, and the problem is statewide. The Recreational Impossibility fix would be to get the State legislatures to pass a bill that directs the Water Board to treat individuals washing their airplane as the nonindustrial activity it inherently is, and, if no water/oil separator is in place, to manage as follows:
1) require biodegradable detergents
2) limit the activity (2 or 3 times a year would cover it)
3) allow mechanics performing annual inspections to wash, as it is required by the FAA.
This is a safety issue… you don’t want to fly a filthy airplane. It isn’t about getting it nice and shiny, though it’s nice when that happens.
The real crazy thing is that oil in an emulsion from washing with soapy water won’t get caught in the separator… as far as I understand, it will just get flushed through, and I guarantee to everyone that oil dripping from cars and Harley’s onto roadways dwarf the oil being washed off small airplanes. That $100k will never pay off in improved water quality.

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Bill Tozer

11 August 2015

Gregory, has anyone called the County’s own Harzardous Waste Rapid Response Team? They have their garages wired to the moon with electronics. All dressed up and nowhere to go.
Come on guys, let’s see the big picture. As Mr. Frisch pointed out, It is all about fothe future generations of taxpayers. They are the real victims here. We would be amiss to leave them saddled with the legacy of Simple Green to clean up in them thar hills. We must think of others, especially the future taxpayers ( who will be cursing us anyway).

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Bill Tozer

11 August 2015

Oh, I forgot. That rain that falls on the runways ain’t your water. It belongs to some other friggin’ numbskulls I hear.

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Gregory

11 August 2015

Tozer. it isn’t a hazardous waste issue.

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Bill Tozer

11 August 2015

I know Gregory. But, Simple Green could conceivably someday be found to be hurting an endangered mosquito from parts unknown found hitchhiking on one of those aeroplanes. Ok, you have had enough of my foolishness. I was hoping you at least liked the pic I posted for ya…..the one with the doll. I will take yet another timeout. Gotta run to the nursery and buy some more brush killer anyways. 😉

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Gregory

11 August 2015

“I am not an apologist for the EPA here, they should have had better safety measures in place to prevent an accidental spill like this that occurred while they were assessing the contaminants left in the mine for future clean up, but lets be clear, the accident would not have happened if the mine owners had been responsible for their toxic legacy in the first place.” Steven Frisch, apologizing for the EPA
Let’s be clear that the spill would not have happened if the EPA wasn’t using a backhoe to dig a channel to investigate a leak. As the NY Times reported,
“For years, the Gold King has leaked toxic water at a rate of 50 to 250 gallons a minute. The agency had planned to find the source of the leak in the hope of one day stanching it. Instead, as workers used a backhoe to hack at loose material, a surprise deluge of orange water ripped through, spilling into Cement Creek and flowing into the Animas. The burst did not injure workers.
In his first interview since the spill, the owner of the mine, Todd Hennis, said the spill was probably the fault of another mine company — the Sunnyside Gold Corporation — that had built retention walls inside an abandoned mine near the Gold King, part of an old cleanup agreement with the federal government.”
So, the spill was due to the EPA investigating a problem that was probably caused by a cleanup plan the Feds had previously put into place? At what point to EPA apologists stop?

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Walt

11 August 2015

Well the local “EPA” saved the Co. a lot of money, when they swept a soil contamination under the rug. I know. I dug up the leaking fuel tank in Truckee. They “put off” the remediation and soil removal till the next year because the first snow had just hit.
” We will call you when we are ready”. We filled in the hole with pea gravel and paved over the top. To this day, that same “patch” is still there. They never did go back and remove that “dirty” dirt.
I tried to bring this to our officials some years ago, to no avail. ( better to let sleeping dogs lie.)
All this on Co. property in Truckee. So much for our ECO fanatics working for the Co.
That would have cost BIG bucks to dig up, store, and haul away.
The last time I went through that town, I drove past that old job. Not a thing has changed since I left it.
Care to raise a stink on that Steve? I will be more than happy to supply the exact location, what Co. I worked for at the time.
Let’s see if ECOville will hold their own accountable.

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Don Bessee

11 August 2015

ooooopsie! Inspector General reports TOP SECRET material in Hillary’s emails. That makes the thumb drive her lawyer is holding a federal crime among others committed in this saga. What’s good enough for General Patraus is good for Hillary. Sanders – Biden debates in the near future?

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Bill Tozer

11 August 2015

Don: The Demo challengers to the former Jr. Senator from NY, Ms. Clinton, were screaming at the top of their lungs yesterday about being limited to only 6 debates by the Wazernameshawrtz DNC and the former first ladie’s camp. They (cried foul as the first reaction coming out of their mouths) as having only a mere solo debate scheduled before some tiny state primary. Both the boys Bernie and some mayor (2% puts him in top 3) said it takes at least 8 debates for the people to get to know where they stand on issues. Ah, strike that. It takes 8 debates for people to get to know them. yarn.

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Don Bessee

11 August 2015

NEWS FLASH- Those guys may find out the DNC shot them self in the foot with this plan now that Hillary is going to give up the server to DOJ as the truth about the TOP SECRET emails contents is blowing up big now.

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Steven Frisch

11 August 2015

Seriously guys, to blame the EPA is patently ridiculous. What of the responsibility of the company who abandoned the mine? The EPA would not even have been there trying to fix the problem if the problem had not been left by the previous owner.
It is amazing to me that you guys don’t realize that if Hennis is the new owner of the mine he is responsible. He did not by a contaminated mine to own a mine he bought it in his folly probably, believing he could make a profit, Them is the risks of capitalism right?
Well, according to guys, no. I know the drill, socialize the cost to the taxpayers and hold the owner of the mine, who put their money into making profit for their shareholders, harmless.

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