206 responses to “Sandbox – 10jul15”

1. 

   Todd Juvinall

   10 July 2015

   I did my own post on Campbell this morning. Is it any wonder the education system is broken? My goodness how is it people with that lack of smarts teach our kids?

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   Russ Steele

   10 July 2015

   Todd, when they cannot teach they indoctrinate. The results are students ill prepred for the real world.

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   Gregory

   10 July 2015

   The standards for teaching continuation students are different; besides, among teachers and especially their unions, her opinions are not out of the mainstream. One would hope that the standards for the Board of Trustees of the Nevada Joint Union High School District would be higher. Her last position working for the district was as a history/social studies teacher at the NU Technical High School (technically, it is a high school), and its principal.
   BTW according to transparentcalifornia, Linda Campbell’s pension is at least $51K at the moment, good for another 30 to 40 years, bankruptcy of CalSTRS notwithstanding.
   I think its obvious she can’t effectively serve all the people in Nevada County, nor does she want to, so I think it clear she should resign from the Board. There really isn’t a chance in hell she’ll win a second term in 2018.

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4. 

   George Rebane

   10 July 2015

   Gentlemen, in case you have not noticed, Linda Campbell is a topic on ‘Ruminations – 10jul15’.

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5. 

   Don Bessee

   10 July 2015

   Guess I was not the only one to cross posts! lol

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6. 

   Walt

   10 July 2015

   On the Trump front,
   ” This week, Reince Priebus, the chairman of the Republican National Committee, was said to have urged Mr. Trump in a phone call on Wednesday to soften his tone on immigration.”
   translation: ” DUDE,,, Your making us Repub apologists, and glad handers look bad.”

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7. 

   Don Bessee

   10 July 2015

   Now this should stir the pot. The 9th circuit court of appeals in SF just drove a stake though the heart of all the business models for pot. The federal gov. will not be allowing any IRS deductions for weed as a business expense. I have to wonder what that’s going to do to the campaign contributions for the multiple pot legalization CA ballot props in work? LOL!

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   Walt

   10 July 2015

   Maybe they will have better luck with the state… Uh,, nope,,, that would shoot the “tax it” excuse all full of holes.
   Yes,, the FEDS want their cut of the action..
   Now why would the potsters even sue for tax breaks??? They are in that “taxes a GOOD” side of things.

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   Russ Steele

   10 July 2015

   Is a mini ICE AGE on the way? Scientists warn the sun will ‘go to sleep’ in 2030 and could cause temperatures to plummet
   New study claims to have cracked predicting solar cycles Says that between 2030 and 2040 solar cycles will cancel each other out Could lead to ‘Maunder Minimum’ effect that saw River Thames freeze over
   More details HERE.
   I hope that I am still around to when the Left comes to the realization that humans cannot control the climate, regardless of how many environmental rules and regulations that push in the people of California.

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10. 

    Russ Steele

    10 July 2015

    Opps should have read: “they push on the people of California.”

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11. 

    Bill Tozer

    10 July 2015

    Yo Walt, here’s some reading to do about the Brown Streak, Cap and Trade, The Drought, The Middle East, and Da Liberal Mind all rolled into one. Nothing about outdoor bar-b-ques. Sorry.
    http://thefederalist.com/2015/07/10/thirsty-californians-tithe-to-high-speed-rail/

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12. 

    Bill Tozer

    10 July 2015

    Ok, visual aides before shut eye.
    http://patriotpost.us/posts/36318
    https://www.facebook.com/USAPatriots/photos/a.448370578526854.103985.133154313381817/976823175681589/?type=1&theater

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13. 

    Walt

    10 July 2015

    Hell.. The Brown Streak will be obsolete before it makes it’s first run.
    Hover tech. will be in full swing by then. If Sac. mandates room temp superconductivity,
    all the problems will be solved. Technology mandated by law has worked SO well.
    It was lemon pepper chicken in the pit, and applewood for that mellow touch.
    I found a chicken nearly a big as a small turkey, and HAD to fire up the smoker.

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14. 

    Jon

    10 July 2015

    Hottest June in CA history, per NOAA today.
    That is all.

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15. 

    Gregory

    11 July 2015

    And yet, by satellite and radiosonde measurements, there has been no statistically significant atmospheric worldwide warming for 18+ years.
    NOAA’s NCDC doesn’t have the stellar reputation earned by NOAA as a whole, so don’t get your hopes up for a fiery death after all, Jon. It still looks like the next decades will be cooling.

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    Todd Juvinall

    11 July 2015

    I posted this on the Union website in response to their column of “what to believe” in social media and the news. It urks me to to have to set the record straight.
    “I would agree with your column except I can’t in good conscience say I want to leave the press as the gatekeepers of truth and facts. On page A7 the AP story of the Confederate flag coming won is a prime example. The reporters state comments about “republicans throughout the article as not supporting it coming down until forced to more or less. Yet, the flag was put there by democrats and a democrat governor! The General they mention was a democrat! Yet not a word about any democrat. I would not know this unless I researched it and saw it on social media and talk radio. If you want us to agree with your opinion on “truth” please do a better job on the biased AP crapola. It is really a pet peeve of mine.”

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17. 

    Steven Frisch

    11 July 2015

    Posted by: Todd Juvinall | 11 July 2015 at 08:25 AM
    A pet peeve of mine is people who don’t know what the “Southern Strategy” was and how it shifted the south from Democratic racists to Republican racists between 1964 and 1980…

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18. 

    Walt

    11 July 2015

    LOL “jon”!! NOAA?? What’s a little “adjusted numbers” to make things look the way they need to be to fit the agenda? How bout the snowy day in JULY in Tahoe?? YES!!! Nice fluffy flakes,, NOT HAIL!! I was THERE!
    As for the Confederate flag coming down, when will all the places named for Sen. Bird (D) get re named? Grand wizard of the KKK.

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    Jon

    11 July 2015

    Keep flailing Walt. NOAA’s report will come out officially on July 15. But good catch on the old Sean Hannity right wing talking point about Byrd. Guess you missed the history lesson about the South. You missed quite a bit of schoolin’ it appears.

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20. 

    George Rebane

    11 July 2015

    Administrivia – I just deleted the last string of kindergarten name calling comments; didn’t look like there was any substance in any of them.

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    Todd Juvinall

    11 July 2015

    The “Southern Strategy” is a liberal myth. Logistically the liberals are saying that a whole region of America, all the voters in that region and their political ideology, flipped from registered democrats to registered Republicans overnight. Yep, the left has to have a boogeyman. The dogs were set on the blacks by good democrats. Republicans set them free. No rewrites of history will stand the scrutiny of the truth.

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    Jon

    11 July 2015

    LOL about the liberal myth. No need to counter that nonsense with any reference, just need to laugh at it.

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23. 

    Bill Tozer

    11 July 2015

    Posted by Mr. Steven Frisch @ 9:47am in the morning.
    Todd is an expert in snakes? Good, that means Gopher and King snakes will live! I walked outside the other dark night and saw a snake 3 feet from me in the drive. I fired up the old pick-em-up truck and ran it over….about 17 times. In the excitement I smashed into a rock wall I just built. (Repairs to the wall is on tomorrow’s agenda.) Darn, it was a king snake. Opps. Yesterday I killed my first rattler in many a year. 12 or so buttons, yet not long, just fat. This was in broad daylight and I almost stepped on it walking around w/ my head in the clouds. His warning alerted me and being quite certain it was not a King Snake, I grabbed a nearby hoe and hoed him/her death. Put the meat in the freezer. Where is St. Paddy when you need him? But, I defer to Todd on such matters, including penal codes and penile size. A whooper with cheese? 🙂

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24. 

    George Rebane

    11 July 2015

    For those who can hold back their laughter a bit, I would recommend a tour of the Rockford Institute website.
    http://www.chroniclesmagazine.org/about/the-rockford-institute/
    These people publish Chronicles (‘The magazine of American culture’) that maintains and promotes a unique and penetrating view of an America culture that has been abandoned by both the Right and Left on our political scene. Its essays from various contributors in academe and national commentators give no quarter and take no prisoners. Of most interest is its characterization of the origins, apogee, and decline of western culture in our land. I would be interested to hear of readers’ reaction to these considerable thoughts about our times.

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25. 

    Steven Frisch

    11 July 2015

    Posted by: George Rebane | 11 July 2015 at 11:13 AM
    Probably a good idea, of course if we really followed that ‘standards’ abut 80% of Todd’s comments would be deleted.
    So, the Southern Strategy is a myth, with no evidence to back that up, yet I could roll out 20 people who would testify to the strategy and its implementation, from the Goldwater campaign to the Reagan campaign.
    But that’s OK, everything that challenges the worldview is a ‘myth’.

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    Todd Juvinall

    11 July 2015

    Glad the Chronicles are there but in all sincerity, this blog and many others are doing the same work. They are going to have to pry my cold dead fingers from my keyboard to shut me up and I suspect, you too GeorgeR. GeorgeB is a lost cause. It is our duty to ensure the truth be made available to all. Some will never believe it but when they lose their personal freedoms we fight to preserve, perhaps then they will understand.
    Just as I pointed out that the fallacy of a “southern strategy” is a bunch of hooey, the liberals won’t believe it was. They always need a whipping boy or a person or institution they can blame for their failures. A good Alinsy strategy for the losers they are.
    BillT, you are truly a funny fellow. Keep up the good work!

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27. 

    Todd Juvinall

    11 July 2015

    I posted and then I saw theFrisch post. He just can’t help himself with personal attacks. Jeeze.
    Obviously he has no response on my common sense analysis on the “southern strategy”. I repeat, Tell us all how a whole area of the country and all its voters switched over to the Republicans almost overnight? Please inform the readers here how that was accomplished in the real world. Come on, you can do it.

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28. 

    Walt

    11 July 2015

    Not even the dead are safe. Now this is taking things too far.
    This is now entering ISIS territory. Destroy anything that isn’t politically correct.
    http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/07/11/memphis-city-council-votes-to-dig-up-grave-of-confederate-general-sell-his-statue/
    Is Robert E. Lee going to be dug up and put in an unmarked grave?

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    Todd Juvinall

    11 July 2015

    The Taliban have nothing on the left in America. You are right Walt, first they came for the corpses, and later for the living. These people are flesh eating zombies on the left.

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30. 

    George Rebane

    11 July 2015

    StevenF 1233pm – Don’t know if I’m the only one seeing the asymmetry in your exchanges Steven. When you criticize someone’s comment on an issue that is shared by many people across the country, you land on the person for his ‘erroneous belief’ and don’t acknowledge that it is more broadly held. This in addition to the oft-stated contempt with which you hold RR, as if its sentiments were unique only to this section of the Sierra foothills.
    But I see (and hopefully have always practiced myself) that your stated ‘truths’ are criticized on the basis of their being held by an ideological class (that may include you). You personally are not accused of being the only one in error and left to swing in the wind. While there may have been exceptions in such exchanges, I’m here only referring to the preponderance of the evidence.

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31. 

    Steven Frisch

    11 July 2015

    jPosted by: George Rebane | 11 July 2015 at 01:41 PM
    Just because a “broadly head’ view is ridiculous it does not make the view being held by one individual any less ridiculous.
    And I guess you are correct George that ridiculous views are not unique to your geography, they are merely in my humble opinion, more concentrated in your geography. Western Nevada County is the merely largest concentration of ridiculous views I have seen in my experience. There are probably places with higher concentrations of crazy……

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32. 

    Todd Juvinall

    11 July 2015

    Good luck with logic GeorgeR. Doesn’t seem to work on a liberal. The reason the readers need to know about him is simple. He lives in a glass house. He refuses to let anyone post on his “blog” and only come around here to fight and call people names. He is unworthy of posting here. If his personal venues were open to others I would say he should not be prevented from posting. But since he is a fine example of a censoring liberal maybe not. But it is your blog and you can do what you want of course. He is free to post on my blog but is too chicken I guess.

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33. 

    Steven Frisch

    11 July 2015

    Posted by: Todd Juvinall | 11 July 2015 at 11:18 AM
    Posted by: Todd Juvinall | 11 July 2015 at 12:42 PM
    “Obviously he has no response on my common sense analysis on the “southern strategy”.
    When you come up with a common sense analysis let me know.

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    George Rebane

    11 July 2015

    StevenF 254pm – I could expand the argument as to the nation’s map of our “ridiculous views”, but I see no profit in that. However, your stated opinion, to the extent that it’s shared by other progressives, does again confirm that 1) America is ideologically beyond the tipping point, and 2) there are few paths forward that would not benefit from a peaceful Great Divide. Nevertheless, your constant and welcome reminders of how ridiculous at least half of RR readers are serves an extremely useful purpose.
    (Am always interested to see books like Coulter’s ‘Adios America’ make it to the Top 10 charts in the nation.)

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    Todd Juvinall

    11 July 2015

    I guess he truly has no answers to the myth of a “southern strategy” What a hoot!
    I read Adios America and passed it on to my 86 year old mother who doesn’t have a racist bone in her body. I will let you all know what her book report says.

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    Steven Frisch

    11 July 2015

    Posted by: George Rebane | 11 July 2015 at 03:03 PM
    George, my comment about a ‘ridiculous view’ referred to Todd’s denial of the existence of the Southern Strategy. If you are going to comment on that issue, and take me to task for calling it out, I expect you to have done some reading on the issue and be prepared to defend his case.
    You may see that as some sort of proof that America is beyond some sort of tipping point, i see it as proof that you will defend the ridiculous when advanced by someone you think of as like minded, which really just proves my case, that facts are seldom stronger than relationship and affinity.
    As for your view that some sort of Great Divide could be affected peaceably and cleanly, with like minded (largely European descendent) residents creating bastions of governance whereby they defend and preserve the institutions of the Christian West as you define them: the family as you think it should be defined, the Church as you wish it to be, and the rule of law as you interpret it, private property as you believe the Constitution defines it, free enterprise as it has never existed, moral discipline based on your morals; high “western’ standards of learning, art, and literature and you think learning, art and literature should be, is nothing but a separatist fantasy.
    It is another example of a ridiculous world view.
    You and I share a nation, a culture, and a compact. We are part of one country, and the only thing that will ever change that is the nation as we know it being torn asunder.
    You may wish that, I will defend my nation, culture and heritage….:)

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    Todd Juvinall

    11 July 2015

    Now that is a hoot! Defending a culture? Yeah sure, OK. A culture of perversion and anything goes eh? Yep, that is just what we need to defend. Nation? Yep, the libs want a totalitarian one so no dissent can be heard. Yep, just like the censors of speech the libs have in our little county. Yep, defend that with all your strength.
    We don’t share anything except non=profits take our hard warned taxpayers money and waste it. Yep, we need more of that.
    Southern strategy? Prove it. You can’t. It was contrived but it could never be implemented. All those democrats in the south became republicans overnight. Yep, that makes perfect sense. Jeeze, liberals are unbelievably naive.

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    Steven Frisch

    11 July 2015

    I do have to admit though that I am fascinated with the constant referral to the Great Divide, and the idea that we could somehow create different states that allow different interpretations of the Constitution, which is after all, the document that governs all of us. It is an impossibility within our federal system, and there would be no mechanism for defining rights differently between different states. The only way it could be affected would be the dissolution of the Union, which is what I find really fascinating because your served our country to defend the Union, from external threats. I find it fascinating that someone could defend the nation from external enemies while simultaneously essentially advocating its dissolution from within.

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    George Rebane

    11 July 2015

    StevenF 359pm – A couple of points.
    1) re your 347pm – you and I do share a nation and a compact, the latter which we interpret differently. But I doubt that we share a culture. I am prepared to again list the tenets of the American culture that I embrace; I have not been able to induce a progressive to construct an equivalent list of tenets from their perspective.
    2) re your 359pm – as surprising as it may seem, our Constitution provides for the dissolution of the Union. Such dissolution is not an unconstitutional concept, because our Founders were very well aware that the Republic they bequeathed us could and might well become corrupted. And they wanted those who retained the values of liberty, security, and property to have recourse to assemble again in a union to preserve and maintain those supremely important values of beneficial human governance.
    Those who hold all this as an expression of the ridiculous redouble the resolve of the remainder to not submit to collective tyranny. I here preamble a future post on the ‘Sustainability Movement’ in higher education as now being implemented under the leadership of the Association for the Advancement of Sustainability in Higher Education. The Great Divide or wholesale tyranny are much further along than people comprehend; the Brown Shirts had nothing on what is going on to shut off liberal education in our colleges and universities.

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40. 

    Jon

    11 July 2015

    Great divide is fascinating but ultimately a dreamy fantasy. Why don’t you SOJ types stop wasting our time and yours, all come together, buy up property, move and set up shop up in Siskiyou and Modoc County. Plenty of acreage to spread out, and you can get popular support for your movement. Nevada County is not going anywhere, nor are any of the counties with a more educated demographic. Much better chance if you guys are all bunched up in one or two counties. Then, you will have to COLLECTIVELY figure out how to work together! So, please stop wasting time talking about the Divide- go actually do something about it.

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41. 

    Jon

    11 July 2015

    More commentary on unfettered Capitalism by Pope Francis. Walt, you seem to be a good Catholic boy..this must really bother you, ha?
    http://www.nytimes.com/2015/07/12/world/americas/in-fiery-speeches-francis-excoriates-global-capitalism.html

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42. 

    George Rebane

    11 July 2015

    Jon 532pm – so glad to see that you are still intrigued by notions like fundamental cultural and ideological differences and the Great Divide. My own response to ideas, proposals, and notions that have no chance of realization is to just ignore them, which I assiduously do with hundreds (thousands?) I consider to be in Never-Never Land. I suspect your and your compatriouts’ policy about such things is the same.

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    Todd Juvinall

    11 July 2015

    I too would like to see the “culture” list from a liberal. I doubt there is much agreement. For goodness sakes they are truly wrecking the country. Their “Hollywood” values and leftist ideologies have polluted just about every aspect of life. They are all “do as I say, not as I do”. No one respects them at all.

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    Steven Frisch

    11 July 2015

    Posted by: George Rebane | 11 July 2015 at 05:30 PM
    “But I doubt that we share a culture.”
    I think you would be shocked George. I am just as much a product of a white European, American, mid-western, Anglo-centric culture as you are. I read the Bible before I read the Gita, read Ayn Rand before I read Howard Zinn, and am enamored of the Judeo-Christian tradition. I am also well aware of the conservative tradition in western thought.
    I am sure we share more than we don’t.
    But to some one must share ideology to be of the same culture. To me you are of my culture, simply of a different stripe…..but I note, you overlooked my previous posts about my values…..it has come out here, simply not been acknowledged.

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    George Rebane

    11 July 2015

    StevenF 636pm – I will not contend your provenance or that of your values. But from my years long knowledge of your preferred social policies (well documented here), I am at a loss as to how those values must have transformed to support your sincerely held worldview for the future of humanity.
    If you could point to one or two summaries of your values, maybe that would serve as a starting point for greater understanding.

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46. 

    Gregory

    11 July 2015

    The Frischian value that speaks the loudest is best typified by that Chicago politician, Rahm Emmanuel, who famously stated, “We have the votes. Fuck ’em” when working in the Obama administration.
    “Jon”‘s dream of the opposition packing their bags and leaving Nevada County is also telling.
    California being a one party state is a fairly new phenomenon and I doubt it can survive either it’s foreseeable Greek Tragedy or a collapse of the Global Warming scare. Losing the SCOTUS case about union dues may also be a harbinger of doom of the status quo, as that was the engine of Democratic Party dominance of California politics.
    No, the opposition won’t be going away. They’re waiting for you to stumble, and stumble you will.

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    Jon

    11 July 2015

    I thought you were supposed to be an educated guy, Greg? CA is going from blue to red in the future? LOL. I’d love to see those numbers run!

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48. 

    Jon

    11 July 2015

    Greg, another question- if the (conservative regressive) opposition in CA isn’t going away, then why is it pining and planning so hard to join a mythical new State of Jefferson to separate from the State of CA and go away?
    A true puzzle..:)

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49. 

    Ben Emery

    11 July 2015

    Boys Boys, the Southern Strategy is very real and very well documented.
    From the mouth of someone who I think is safely catergorized as a Republican insider of the time, Lee Atwater. It is called dog whistle politics. I don’t doubt you guys are oblivious to the fact this is going on, you all seem to have very linear minds incapable of seeing something that is connected but just to the side not right in front or behind. I guess you guys can say the same thing about Agenda 21 and liberals. I have never heard of Agenda 21 until the last 5 years but have been talking about sustainability and environmental issues since the 1980’s.
    Exclusive: Lee Atwater’s Infamous 1981 Interview on the Southern Strategy
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X_8E3ENrKrQ#t=47
    Transcript
    “Here’s how I would approach that issue as a — as a statistician or a political scientist — or, no, as a psychologist, which I’m not, is — is how abstract you — you handle the race thing. In other words, you start out — and now y’all aren’t quoting me on this, are you?
    “You start out in 1954 by saying, ‘nigger, nigger, nigger.’ By 1968, you can’t say ‘nigger’; that hurts you. It backfires. So you say stuff like ‘forced busing,’ ‘states’ rights,’ and all that stuff. And you’re getting so abstract now, you’re talking about cutting taxes, and all of these things you’re talking about are totally economic things, and a byproduct of them is, blacks get hurt worse than whites. And subconsciously, maybe that is part of it; I’m not saying that. But I’m saying that if it is getting that abstract and that coded, that we’re — we’re doing away with the racial problem one way or the other. You follow me? Because obviously sitting around saying ‘We want to cut taxes,’ ‘We want to cut this,’ and ‘We want’ — is much more abstract than even the busing thing, and a hell of a lot more abstract than ‘nigger, nigger.’ You know.

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50. 

    Jon

    11 July 2015

    Ben, exactly right. Its why Reince Preibus of the Repubs had the meeting with Trump to tone down the direct racism and revert to the Republican’s patented dog-whistle racism. Direct racism isn’t good for the Brand.

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