185 responses to “Sandbox – 28jun15”

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   Steven Frisch

   02 July 2015

   Posted by: Gregory | 02 July 2015 at 05:39 PM
   Greg I think your point might have some merit IF you had not begun the new blog order by intentionally finding a way around complying with the rules then followed on by providing what you yourself described as ‘snack bait’ to attempt to drag the entire process down to its basest level.
   I believe George’s intent was to avoid cluttering up his blog with extraneous irrelevant rhetoric, which some here have not honored.
   Thus Jon’s observation, the rules and the intent of the rules, seem to have no meaning to some here.

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   Steven Frisch

   02 July 2015

   Make that ‘snark bait’ 🙂

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   Steven Frisch

   02 July 2015

   Well now Todd, of course I watched the video…and read the article…you are just incorrect.
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   Todd Juvinall

   02 July 2015

   No Steve, I am correct. Readers don’t believe what he says. Not true.

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   Jon

   02 July 2015

   Todd and Gregory are equally ignorant in language skills apparently, if they believe:
   All white people are racists = all white people are privileged.
   Please explain how thesae statements are remotely similar. Thanks.

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   Jon

   02 July 2015

   Yes Todd, I agree that the vast majority of Republicans running for President come out of a Clown Car.
   Thanks for mentioning that. I will claim some credit.

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   Jon

   02 July 2015

   Oh I do want to wish all the best of luck to the Republican Party in 2016. With not a single candidate ripping Donald Trump’s Mexican comments, the Latino community will not be voting Repub in 2016. Bye Bye election, yet again. Lets not forget- Trump is 2nd in National Polling. 2nd.
   http://www.latimes.com/entertainment/gossip/la-et-mg-america-ferrera-donald-trump-racist-essay-20150702-story.html

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   Todd Juvinall

   02 July 2015

   Portland schools hire consultants to then inculcate the teachers with all white people are racists. So all white liberals are now in the mix. White privileged and racists. Jon how does that feel?
   Funny how the poorest on the dole liberal feels superior to a successful conservative whether in business or politics. Hill-Billy never had a job in the private sector or owned a legitimate business yet have somehow figured out how to gather hundreds of millions of dollars from major corporations, foriegn countries and hedge fund managers. And just like the mafia, skim that money from the casino’s! Then the libs diss real business successes like Romney and the Koch brothers. It has to be cognitive damage in a liberals head. I think someone said it is a mental illness to be a liberal. I think they are right.

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   Steven Frisch

   02 July 2015

   Posted by: Todd Juvinall | 02 July 2015 at 07:38 PM
   “Hill-Billy never had a job in the private sector”
   Hillary Clinton was a partner in the Rose Law firm, a private sector job.

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    Don Bessee

    02 July 2015

    Didn’t expect a dem to even breath the words Rose Law Firm this century with everything it is connected to! LOL!!!

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11. 

    Don Bessee

    02 July 2015

    So we can stop hearing the breathless indignation about all the racist church fires from the ‘jon’, the AP reports today there is no big event here. While there are church fires and some from arson in the US its nothing in relation to the number of school arsons (16% v50%). The Clinton task force found in the 90’s that 37% of arsons in black churches were perpetrated by blacks. Then like now the primary reasons like most white perps were to cover up another crime, psyco arsonist. The SC church fire was a lightning strike. There are only anecdotes and no evidence there is any rise in church fires. The fire folks say 5 a week is the historical ave. of church fires of all types.

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    Todd Juvinall

    02 July 2015

    Rose Law firm? Jeeze, lawyers practice business? Sorry, not democrat lawyers, they are leeches not people. Besides, wasn’t she a “partner” because Willy was the Gov?

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13. 

    George Rebane

    02 July 2015

    Do we remember that Rose Law’s billing records, that were material to an investigation of Hillary’s ‘job’ there, went missing. And after some considerable time turned up, of all places, in the White House private presidential quarters? Nothing much came of that significant event in the lamestream. Perhaps I’m wrong.

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    Todd Juvinall

    02 July 2015

    You are right.

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15. 

    Jon

    02 July 2015

    Todd, congratulations for tripling down on your idiotic statement regarding Portland school consultants. Kudos to the Clown that is inside you.

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16. 

    Don Bessee

    02 July 2015

    Oh ya, the good old days- Vince Foster, whitewater, travelgate and of course all of bills trashy conquests that were chirping away. I have always wondered how she failed to write a book delineating her investing stratagems! 😉

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17. 

    Bill Tozer

    02 July 2015

    Hey, I like Slick Willy more than I like his lovely bride, big time. She makes Billy, the man from Hope, look pretty ethical. He had style. She is just lovin’ the money and not giving a hoot about even trying not to look like a shameless opportunist. Just like The Man from Hope, she too can moisten her finger and stick it up to the political winds. But, he just looked so much darn better than Hillary doing the exact same thing. Slick, with charm. A little personality can get you pretty far. She can’t show her warm side because A). She lacks a warm side and B) nothing, absolutely nothing the Clintons say or do is not without calculating the political risk or reward. Can’t be all warm and fuzzy when every word is gone over and over again for 100% political calculation.

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    Steven Frisch

    03 July 2015

    Posted by: Todd Juvinall | 02 July 2015 at 08:56 PM
    See Todd, that is how you do it.
    Last time I checked practicing law at a private law firm is a private sector job. Yes, it is 🙂 And apparently all of you guys remember that Hillary Clinton was once a partner at Rose Law firm and held a private sector job.
    So a mea culpa would look like this: “Yes Steve, Ms. Clinton has had a private sector job. You are correct and was mistaken.”
    Is that so hard?

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19. 

    Steven Frisch

    03 July 2015

    That should of course read: “You are correct and I was mistaken.”

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20. 

    Steven Frisch

    03 July 2015

    Over on another thread where we are discussing something that is actually interesting instead of engaged in the semantic pissing match Russ posted this:
    “One of the externalities that Steven Frisch refuses to consider is the increasing probability that we will see a significant global cooling in the next 20-30 years, which will have a negative impact on the world’s food supply. These externalities are driven by processes that we have no control over.”
    My response is best explained here:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y15UGhhRd6M&list=PL471791D679B25440&index=3
    Great example of how people like Russ and Greg cherry pick data to illustrate a point then repeat i over and over again to make it appear cogent.

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    Todd Juvinall

    03 July 2015

    Hill-Billy Clinton never held a private sector job running a business. Portland teachers forced to attend “training” and are taught the all white people are racists. As the reader can read the liberals here are in denial of the facts as they don’t suit their bizarre world view. The trolls of the left pollute every debate with their lies. Even on this blog we have to make sure the truth is spoken since they seem unable to do so. They usually if not always end up calling names. What a hoot! And you are welcome.
    Amm Coulter was doping a book signing in Costa Mesa this week. Illegal aliens held a loud and unruly protest inside a Barnes and Noble store to try and intimidate her and those there to meet her and buy her book. They were escorted out by security, reformed outside and did a book “tear apart” of Adios America. The little illegals were not arrested and sent home. That is what it comes too now in Obama’s world.

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22. 

    Steven Frisch

    03 July 2015

    “Hill-Billy never had a job in the private sector or owned a legitimate business …..”
    That is what you said Todd, not “Hill-Billy never had a job in the private sector AND owned a business….”
    I know it may seem like an insignificant point to you, but your intent was to say the Secretary Clinton never held a private sector job and you are clearly wrong.
    Here is a link to the Pacific Education Group training site and conference. Look through it dear readers and show me where the proponents say, “all white people are racists.” Then Google it and you will find the usual cast of right wing press mischaracterizing the training as promoting racism (the great right wing reverse racism Orwellian double speak ploy) and whipping it up into an issue for simple minds to get exercised over. I am not defending the overall efficacy of spending the amounts of money some school districts are spending on the training, but that is a separate issue.
    By the way, it is not illegal to protest in the good old USA….that is part of what we are celebrating this weekend…so under what law would you have arrested people holding a protest outside a Barnes and Noble?
    I think if one supports the first amendment they support all of it including the right to peaceable assemble and protest.

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23. 

    Todd Juvinall

    03 July 2015

    Steven Frisch | 03 July 2015 at 06:33 AM
    Spoken like a good liberal. Until your sacred cows are gored. No, what I said was true, you libs parse it anyway you like but the people od America have a belly full of your ilk. You are simply not believed anymore since your lying ways have been exposed by the new media. But like a good lib, never let a good lie go to waste. Americans have your number.
    You liberals don’t make the rules anymore.

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24. 

    Steven Frisch

    03 July 2015

    Posted by: Todd Juvinall | 03 July 2015 at 07:33 AM
    Todd, you said Hillary never worked a private sector job, I showed you that’s not true. Anyone here can check that. You may not like lawyers or believe that they are in business (“Jeeze, lawyers practice business?”) but I suggest you ask your pal Barry if he is in private business.
    And you said that the PEG training said “all white people are racists”. If you can show me where they say that I will eat my hat. Anyone here can check that.
    Even when directly proven false you continue to insist that you are correct.
    I am not even sure what to do with that. I think it is insanity.

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25. 

    Todd Juvinall

    03 July 2015

    Steven Frisch | 03 July 2015 at 08:08 AM
    You are simply incorrect. I do not think a person hired to litigate in a liberal lawyers office and given that “job” because her hubby is the governor is a real job. She was a litigator and paper pusher. No responsibility for employees or the “money books”. It depends on what the definition of “is” is. Remember?
    The Portland schools require their teachers to attend the seminar where they are told all white people are racists. Now that we have established that all white people are racists, that would include you and Jon. I know you are squirming because your skin color throws you into the mix with me and Rebane and the rest here. Welcome aboard the racist train according to academia consultants.

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26. 

    Steven Frisch

    03 July 2015

    Barry are you in private practice? Is that a business? Do people who work for you have a job?
    Mic Drop!

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27. 

    George Rebane

    03 July 2015

    Dear People – a fresh new sandbox is ready for your tender mercies.

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28. 

    RL Crabb

    03 July 2015

    That name-calling ban and sticking to the issues thing didn’t last too long. Surprise, surprise.

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29. 

    Jon

    03 July 2015

    RL,
    Only 1 person responsible here- TJ. Every vestige of a decent dialogue ends up in TJ rant and attack on Steve or the evil of LIBS.

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30. 

    Todd Juvinall

    03 July 2015

    Libs are evil jonnie.

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31. 

    George Rebane

    03 July 2015

    Before all you astute observers get too carried away, I challenge you to point to a regional blog in these parts that contains as many long, thought out, and sincere comments as found in these pages. Yes, there is the inevitable chaff that does reflect the sea change in the country’s body politic, perhaps we should take that into account in its larger meaning. Though not all our efforts are equally embraced, we do not limit ourselves to light fare here.

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32. 

    Steven Frisch

    03 July 2015

    George, did you delete my last post here? I am stunned that you would (if you did). It did not refer to an individual but others stand that do refer to individuals.
    I will grin if you delete this one.
    I am perfectly happy to turn over a new leaf, stick to the topics at hand, and avoid individual and personal critiques, but in the mean time I think that Todd and Greg are incapable of behaving that way, as evidence by the ‘snark bait’ comment immediately after the ‘new rules’ were implemented.
    If you want your blog to have carefully thought out posts that debate real issues you have rebels in your hen house who need a little coaching.

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33. 

    Gregory

    03 July 2015

    Steve and “Jon” are apparently still smarting over taking the snark bait when offered… you guys didn’t have to take it and it remains a fair observation.
    Now we have Steve returning to his lecture that this blog will never rise from the primordial ooze until I go; I suspect the fact that he “hates my guts” and not a desire for a better blog is the motivating factor.

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34. 

    Gregory

    03 July 2015

    Thanks to earl for the 8:40 observation, and for Jom’s 9:50 for illustrating it in a timely manner.

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35. 

    George Rebane

    03 July 2015

    Gentlemen – I have deleted a number of comments that violated my rules from both the ‘right’ and ‘left’. It is a certainty that such deletions will stun some. As I said at the outset, I’ll do my best, but that ‘best’ is defined according to my lights not yours. Let’s get back to the topics.

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