196 responses to “Sandbox – 25jun15”

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   Steven Frisch

   27 June 2015

   Posted by: Todd Juvinall | 27 June 2015 at 11:06 AM
   Mr. Boardman is not a ‘target’. I actually usually enjoy Mr. Boardman’s comments and find most of what he posts interesting (although I occasionally shake my head and ask myself, “I wonder what his source is.”) Note I intentionally excluded Mr. Boardman form the list of the ‘uninteresting’.
   I used his case as an example, cognizant of the fact that the tax delinquency roll that Mr. Pelline posted was ambiguous.
   So let me set an example here: George I am sorry. My comment was inaccurate and I sincerely apologize for any hurt feelings or anxiety they caused.

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   Greg

   27 June 2015

   “I have offered ‘truce’ several times here….but I will be damned if I am going to unilaterally disarm…but you call a ‘truce’ and enforce it…and we could talk about science, economics, technology, the singularity, wild fire, whatever comes up that interests you.”
   Steve, I can’t remember any of your truces being anything other than self serving declarations”. The deal is, stop the defamations, just grin and bear the inevitable truthful arrows that come your way, and things will settle down.
   I have suggested to George to implement a ‘no personal attack at all’ policy, just snip them when they first pop up without much fanfare and the mudball avalanches will stop. It’s been his choice to allow a free for all and you are, in my estimation, one of the worst offenders, with your 10:37 an instant classic.

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   Greg

   27 June 2015

   ” I actually usually enjoy Mr. Boardman’s comments and find most of what he posts interesting”
   You’re very tribal, Steve, and Boardman usually makes left of center comments here which are remarkably similar to yours. Keeping that in mind, The Union letter writers that paint him as a right wing kook are put in stark relief.
   I gather George Boardman feels attacked by your false statements labeling him a tax delinquent. How about a real apology, Steve?

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   Todd Juvinall

   27 June 2015

   Honestly, I truly think Steve Frisch is off his noggin. It is so bad now I don’t even read his comments of more than a sentence. Read his comments accusing me of “blocking” anonymous attackers on my blog and the refusal to believe I don’t”block” with his tortured Facebook explanation of how he blocks commenters. He blocked my comment and banned me for asking him how much taxpayers money he spent traveling to Red China. He really is a goofy person.
   Regarding Boardman, I don’t really care if he is left or right and like all of us he has his opinion. If he is a tax scofflaw as Frisch accuses him of being, I am sure he can defend himself as he is a “wordsmith” and never makes my kind of spelling errors.
   Overall, this blog along with others that do not moderate are always subject to nuts like Frisch, Jon, MA and JoeK types. But my experience with these kinds of people is you cannot let them hog the ether with their psychotic views and they must be responded too. Our culture is now populated with the spewings of those people and we need to meet them with the truth and common sense whenever they rear their ugly personalities.

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   Barry Pruett

   27 June 2015

   “My facebook feed looks like a battle broke out between the Confederates and a Skittles factory.” LOL. Too much fun…be happy.

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   George Rebane

   27 June 2015

   StevenF 1157am – Thanks for the extended comment and advice. Yes, I do have to do something differently, and setting up comment rules is a good place to start, and hopefully end 😉

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   Steven Frisch

   27 June 2015

   Posted by: Greg | 27 June 2015 at 12:18 PM
   Seriously Greg, you started it, years ago, and I consider falsely claiming I committed a tax crime (never charged with a crime, you raging asshole) and serially defaming me, and regularly threatening to sue me or call my mom or whatever he hell you think you can to to hurt me, is enough for me to only agree to a truce that is multilateral and enforced. Until then I will call you the asshole you are every time you snark, or mention my name, or attack my business.

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   Steven Frisch

   27 June 2015

   Posted by: Greg | 27 June 2015 at 12:27 PM
   I apologize:”So let me set an example here: George I am sorry. My comment was inaccurate and I sincerely apologize for any hurt feelings or anxiety they caused.”
   Greg the raging prick says: “How about a real apology, Steve?”

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   Steven Frisch

   27 June 2015

   Posted by: Todd Juvinall | 27 June 2015 at 12:41 PM
   Todd is a total complete liar. A full on liar. Such a hopelessly delusional liar that I think he may even believe the stuff he says.

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    Steven Frisch

    27 June 2015

    Posted by: Steven Frisch | 27 June 2015 at 05:09 PM
    So, as of 4 pm when I came back from going to Reno to see a movie, I am no longer blocked from Todd’s insane web site. This delusional piece of work probably thinks that means he can claim I (and others) were never blocked; and that somehow the point that I am not blocked now means it was never true.
    Todd, you really are one of the stupidest people I’ve ever met in my life.

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11. 

    George Rebane

    27 June 2015

    Wow! I guess the rules and their enforcement really will be a necessary condition for peace in this part of cyberspace.

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12. 

    George Rebane

    27 June 2015

    As a change of pace, here is something that might bring a smile on your face or a tear to your eye, or both. For our liberal friends it may just be something unreal that only exists in the minds of the Right. Limbaugh has observed that under Obama the following words have been totally redefined or completely ignored, or redefined then ignored – marriage, taxes, GDP, employed, recession, full-time job, recovery. And even more have been reclassified as being racist, sexist, bigoted, and homophobic. Whuda thunk? Answers here –
    http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2015/06/26/rush-limbaugh-outlines-seven-words-and-phrases-he-says-have-been-totally-redefined-in-the-age-of-obama/

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13. 

    Todd Juvinall

    27 June 2015

    Wow, I go do some fun things and come back to all this high anxiety and namecalling by Steve Frisch. Yikes, honestly he has lost his noggin. And I have never met him!
    Anyway the only people that block are Steve Frisch and Jeff Pelline. My blog accepts any comments. I have as I stated before, tossed anonymous personal attacks on me and perverted ones from JoeK it appears. Steve Frisch is just fantasying it looks like.
    As far as me telling the truth, I do yell the truth. But that is only me. What a hoot!

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14. 

    Jon

    27 June 2015

    Exactly Todd. You telling the truth- What a freaking HOOT!

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    Todd Juvinall

    27 June 2015

    Jon, you are a anonymous troll, I am a real person. What a hoot!

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16. 

    Jon

    27 June 2015

    Todd, I saw where you were voted the single dumbest elected official in CA history. Not a surprise there, Toadie.
    Yes Todd, I am a real person and the name is Jon. Sorry to disappoint you.

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    Todd Juvinall

    27 June 2015

    No Jon you are a troll. Your supposed screen name is phony. Tell us who you really are. And I was the second dumbest elected official. Dianne Feinstein beat me for the top prize. Oh, and “toadie” was the name my four sisters teased me with when I was a kid. Still warms the cockles of my heart. Thanks for the reminder Jonnie Troll. What a hoot!

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    Jon

    27 June 2015

    Hey Todd, Toadie is not a description to be proud of. Perhaps you didn’t know it, and still don’t, but your sisters were very astute even back then. You were an unoriginal, ass kissing follower even as a kid!

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19. 

    Don Bessee

    27 June 2015

    Well, I see the shining intellectual lights of the left in Nevada County are still flickering!

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20. 

    Todd Juvinall

    27 June 2015

    DonB, jonnie is a hoot!

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21. 

    Jon

    27 June 2015

    Did you guys (Don and Toadie) ever cross paths at the NC Courthouse? Holy Toledo.

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22. 

    Todd Juvinall

    28 June 2015

    No jonnie but I was there for your trial gor libel. What a hoot!

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23. 

    Jon

    28 June 2015

    Todd,
    With you always needing the last word, it totally explains your divorce record!

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24. 

    Larry Wirth

    28 June 2015

    Doesn’t seem like the cease-fire is holding very well…
    Try a little harder folks?

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25. 

    Bonnie McGuire

    28 June 2015

    All this stupid blathering on Mr. Rebanes wonderful discussion page is the technique those who undermine use to distract a useful, knowledgable discussion. Don’t be distracted by foolishness and stick to interesting discussion. Ignore dumb insults. If you compare Mr. Rebanes site with others that have few participants you’ll realize what’s happening here now. Get out of this destructive rut.

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26. 

    Steven Frisch

    28 June 2015

    Posted by: Bonnie McGuire | 28 June 2015 at 10:46 AM
    Actually Bonnie I could not agree with you more…..but the technique is being used multi-laterally so it will require multi-lateral agreement 🙂
    And Larry…..I would welcome a truce with real rules and fair enforcement. Of course I might cease commenting because the only thing that really brings me back here is the chaff. The wheat is usually available elsewhere. I am more of a Nevada County Scooper fan.
    But I will concede to Todd that he may be only the second dumbest elected official ever.

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    Gregory

    28 June 2015

    “Seriously Greg, you started it, years ago, and I consider falsely claiming I committed a tax crime (never charged with a crime, you raging asshole) and serially defaming me, and regularly threatening to sue me or call my mom or whatever he hell you think you can to to hurt me, is enough for me to only agree to a truce that is multilateral and enforced. Until then I will call you the asshole you are every time you snark, or mention my name, or attack my business.
    Posted by: Steven Frisch | 27 June 2015 at 05:05 PM”
    Seriously Steve, you started it and have shown no small talent for making it worse.
    The IRS identifies what got you into trouble as a “fraudulent practice”… yes or no?

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    Todd Juvinall

    28 June 2015

    Bonnie, you see we try to be civil and usually are until the trolls Frisch, Jon and a couple of others come here to pick a fight. Look at Frisch’s comment above at 11:15 AM. Now he could have left out the part attacking me but he can’t resist so he does. GeorgeR allows Frisch’s comments to stand and so I and others have to respond with the truth since this blog is available to 7 billion people.
    So there it is. Liberals come here, lie and pick a fight, heck, Jon even calls me “Toadie” instead of my name as some sort of diss (I was called that as a little kid by my sisters). The left is like this on every issue and we who treasure the truth cannot let them hog the discourse.

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29. 

    Steven Frisch

    28 June 2015

    Posted by: Gregory | 28 June 2015 at 11:28 AM
    See Bonnie, I told you so.
    Todd, at the same time you are busting me for quoting your own words you were on another thread posting this. “Looks to me like the only losers in America are the white middle class. Those family oriented people working two jobs and trying to live their lives without all the interference from people like jonnie and Frisch.”

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30. 

    Todd Juvinall

    28 June 2015

    Golly you read my blog and come here to argue. What a guy. Well what is untrue Steve Frisch? You tell us all how you are helping the taxpaying middle class families. Doing their dishes for them? Mowing their lawns? No, you are deriving your living by taking so called and qquestionable ” nonprofit” money and placing it into your accounts. They are paying your salary. Tell us what you are doing for those people.

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31. 

    Todd Juvinall

    28 June 2015

    Oops that wasmy comment on this blog.

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32. 

    Gregory

    28 June 2015

    Here we have a classic Frischian lying by omission. Fraudulent practice… yes or no?

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33. 

    Gregory

    28 June 2015

    While the Jeopardy! theme plays, let’s explore the logic of “no charges were filed therefore no crime was committed”.
    Dear to the heart to many of the OWS crowd are the crimes committed by Small Street financiers looting the country, and I do not turn a deaf ear to that situation… but no charges have been filed and it’s been years with no charges filed. Does that mean no crimes were committed, or that criminality is a wave function with criminality and innocence coexisting, like Schroedinger’s cat being both dead and alive in a box until someone opens the box to look?
    Then there is Nixon, who was pardoned for the crimes before anyone opened the box.
    Curious.

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34. 

    Todd Juvinall

    28 June 2015

    I think there was a “deal” about the money owed to all the agencies. It was probably a 10% on the dollar deal. Taxpayers robbed twice.

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35. 

    Gregory

    28 June 2015

    Pyramiding, diverting money withheld for payroll taxes into your pockets is a fraudulent practice… yes or no?
    This question is for everyone but especially that one someone who thinks not being charged means no crime was committed.

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36. 

    Steven Frisch

    28 June 2015

    Posted by: Gregory | 28 June 2015 at 02:18 PM
    I seek a clarification George. Do the rules apply to the Sandbox? The way i read them they do since all 10 rules are in place.
    If so, I respectfully request the removal of Greg’s 2:18 since it is violation of the rules, implies illegal activity, and in the context of this thread is clearly referring to me.
    I suggest you close this Sandox and open a new one.
    Also, since clearly your loyal readers are intent on finding ways to circumvent the rules I suggest you add one….no hyperlinking back to previous content that violates the rules. I suspect that would stop happening shortly.
    Thank you.

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37. 

    Todd Juvinall

    28 June 2015

    Yes or no Frisch. Answer the question truthfully and then we can move on. But alas you cannot.

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38. 

    George Rebane

    28 June 2015

    StevenF 230pm – Greg’s 218pm asks a topical question of particularly no one, seeking answer to a general question the answer to which you may simply ignore if you wish. And let’s see how that hyperlinking to previously posted mudballs works out. Readers, of course, are not required to follow any URLs included in comments.
    As requested, a new sandbox is being opened.

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39. 

    Gregory

    28 June 2015

    Thank you George, I did think it sufficiently Churchillian to pass muster, and once again, crickets on an answer just bluster regarding the appropriateness of the question from that special someone who really does not want to answer.
    Steve seems to think a yes implies a criminal act on his part. Perhaps, but then such deals are made regularly. No big deal, unless my truthful statement of IRS regulations are used to justify defamation of my character by that special someone.

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40. 

    Steven Frisch

    28 June 2015

    Posted by: Steven Frisch | 28 June 2015 at 02:30 PM
    Thank you George. Perhaps, you could answer the other part of my comment….do the rules as stated apply to the Sandox? The way I read the rules they do.

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41. 

    Steven Frisch

    28 June 2015

    Posted by: Todd Juvinall | 28 June 2015 at 02:34 PM
    Todd, you may have noticed that the new rules as applied to a question like this are to address the topic not individuals.

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42. 

    Gregory

    28 June 2015

    Frisch 3:48
    I’m happy to answer that for you only because I think George was crystal clear… yes they do apply to the sandbox!
    Perhaps you’re confusing argumentum ad hominem with inconvenient truths.

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43. 

    George Rebane

    28 June 2015

    Gregory 302pm – I have not been party to the debates, charges, and counter-charges about the legality, morality, or fattening properties of other readers’ pasts. Readers can answer each other’s questions or send crickets. In short, answers to questions are optional not mandatory. Third party readers will make up their own minds regarding an answer or its absence – the original question need not become an irritating drumbeat.
    SteveF 348pm – I’m not sure what particularity you are referencing, but save for welcoming all topics in a sandbox, the rules should apply across the board. But I do admonish commenters to avoid directed questions on gratuitous ‘general topics’ such as about having sex with a sheep.
    Bottom line – no need to answer or engage when it doesn’t suit you.

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44. 

    Steven Frisch

    28 June 2015

    ‘Praise publicly and punish privately.’ Don’t launch personal attacks on other commenters or me. Most certainly don’t publish other people’s personal information that is unrelated to the posted topic(s).
    My question is what constitutes a personal attack? And what do you mean by admonish?
    If I say, I think someone ‘whose name rhymes with odd’ has sex with sheep is that a personal attack? Is it necessary for me to say, “I think Todd has sex with sheep?”
    My case would be that if having sex with sheep is not relevant to the topic, or a subsequent topic that comes up in a thread, or is not brought up by the individual in question, it is a personal attack, whoever behind the fig leaf of ‘odd’ or clearly stated as Todd.
    If I am free to say “Todd has sex with sheep” and his recourse is to not ‘engage’ then there really is no proscription against personal attacks.
    By the way the same is true of personal information. If I say, “Todd is being sued” and it is a matter of public record, but it is not relevant to the topic if the thread, is it personal or business.

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45. 

    Todd Juvinall

    28 June 2015

    GeorgeR, as you can see the left will harass you until you say uncle. It is their stock and trade. Mr. Frisch is doing this and all I can say is good luck. Until he gets his way and all others are run off (which is the strategy) he will be undaunted.

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46. 

    George Rebane

    28 June 2015

    StevenF 506pm – Let’s just give it a try and not try to immediately generate copy for some arcane law journal somewhere.

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