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Posted by Fish, recently.
Mr. Fish. Oh my, what is a former award winning editor to do? It think it is called “being irrevelant”, but I have been mistaken before.
With the robots cranking out stories at a high rate of speed, maybe there are no human sock puppets, just machines gone wild. Much to ponder. Oh, lest I forget, good morning to you…even if I am replying to a robot down in the “flatlands”. 🙂
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Posted by: Bill Tozer | 27 May 2015 at 08:00 AM
And a hearty good morning to you as well William……or in my native tongue…..11001010010100101001100101010110100100010101101
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Fish that link is scary. That broad teaches our kids (she says anyway). My goodness, if she does she needs to retire.
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Posted by: Todd Juvinall | 27 May 2015 at 08:17 AM
Good to see the progressive lefts mask slip so you can see the real face behind it Todd. Remind us all what a monstrous ideology it truly is.
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Of course such nonsense can be found anywhere…and everywhere…and has no bearing on anyones “mask”….I am sure Ben would condemn the mindset in the article posted above as quickly as y’all would condemn the ideas in this thread…because we all know none of you actually think like this 🙂
http://www.muttr.com/miscellaneous/3435
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Posted by: steven frisch | 27 May 2015 at 08:35 AM
Yeah…the presidents twitter was interesting for a couple of days last week wasn’t it? A handful of similar sentiments in a nation of 300 million…..because racist!
And yes, I’m sure Ben would “condemn” the article while quietly agreeing with most of it. It reflects similar sentiments he has presented in the past.
Nevertheless, the opinion in the linked article is currently in vogue throughout leftist academia Steve.
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Posted by: fish | 27 May 2015 at 08:47 AM
Bullshit Fish…..the ideas represented in that article are by no means anywhere near mainstream, even in ‘leftist academia’,
(As though all academia is leftist; I could find a substantial body of ‘rightist academia’ to match your ‘leftist.’)
This is just typical gamesmanship on your part; post something radical and challenge people to denounce it, as though they supported it to begin with.
A moderately well read 13 year old could see through your ham fisted attempt at propaganda.
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It is very evident the many people of “color” that give interviews do believe what that gal stated in her opinion piece. I watch many liberal programs to make sure I get their points and she is one of many self loathing white liberal saps. My goodness, all people are special regardless of their race, color or whatever, but to wish the demise of a whole race is Hmmm? Racist? But those lefty’s forget history, very conveniently of course. Hell, Russia is a mix of white Rus and Mongol hordes! How come they forget about Khan? Or the Ottomans? Maybe Shaka Zulu? Anyway, that woman would be happy to have a holocaust against the white people of the planet apparently.
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Posted by: steven frisch | 27 May 2015 at 09:03 AM
Good to see the “Dog Whistle” still works…..it certainly woke you from your slumber! Look into Noel Ignatiev…..he was an early progenitor of “Critical Race Theory”…..of course like so many of those in the various …..”Studies programs” he might have just been out hustling for grant money.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Noel_Ignatiev
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I bet ol’ Steve Frisch supports “Planned Parenthood”. Created by a eugenics woman. Yep! The results are a lot less black folks in America.
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Posted by Mr. Frisch recently.
“Bullshit Fish…..the ideas represented in that article are by no means anywhere near mainstream, even in ‘leftist academia’,”
Mr. Frisch, before you call Bull Pucky and get your BS Detector running on all 3 renewable cylinders, I believe you are out of the loop. And all this time I thought you were part of Liberal Acamedia. Like there is any other kind of Acamedia besides liberal Acamedia?, but I digress.
I have to apologize to you for thinking you were part of the inner circle. I stand corrected. I can see now you are just a nice pragmatic purple fellow who likes mean green high faluting low polluting friendly renewable machines, pinko.
Be that as it may, i hate white liberal cracker honkies. Well, not all. I even got a white neighbor who is from New England and I have taken him under my wing after watching him make too many greenhorn mistakes, like watering the moss on rocks during our drought. Heck, I even work with a couple of whitebreads and my little sis even married one, to my chagrin. Plus your white women and your whitey wives stink like stank.
As I learned in the 60’s “when the revolution comes there will be no more nigger or bullshit”. Well then, turn the page and there is no more nigger. It has been replaced with the more palatable polically correct “nigga”. but the BS remains, spewing forth from academia, which obviously you know little about. Love ya, Steven. Gimme five on the white side and have a fantastic day all you Negro wannabes.
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Plus your white women and your whitey wives stink like stank.
Oh William….so insensitive……turn in your “Feminist Card” and self exile from polite society!
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At the time of the Sept. reports the sources were listed as registered campaign committees which they were not. The County elections office told you so and that made the money unaccounted for by rule. You guys then at a later date filed amended reports correcting your errors. Grow up and walk away being thankful you were able to amend the reports and avoid the fines. You still at the end of the day have permanent FPPC files with a strike against your guys as outlined in the FPPC Warning.
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Mr. Fish. Too much over the top? Ok, I will once again go into my man cave and take a timeout in yet another self imposed exile. But, not before one observation I need, nay, I gotta gotta gotto share. President Obama clearly identified himself as “half white” in his response to the Rev. Jeramiah Wright flare up. It’s that white part of Obama I cannot stomach anymore.
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This is what can happen under the TPP. So much for national sovereignty.
On May 18, a WTO tribunal overturned an American consumer law that requires country-of-origin-labeling on meat products, so we can know where the meat we buy comes from. Our Congress passed this sensible right-to-know law, our courts have upheld it, 92 percent of Americans support it – but a group of corporate lawyers on a WTO tribunal has overruled us. This forces us under our agreement in signing the WTO to change our laws. this is not even an international court but rather a corporate led tribunal that have determined that our laws have caused them harm. More of this is what we can expect if TPP passes. That’s why responsible conservatives are opposed to the TPP. Here’s a link with more info:
http://www.citizen.org/documents/press-release-wto-cool-ruling-may-2015.pdf
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Here’s more:
“U.S. exporters of all kinds now face up to $2 billion in punitive trade restrictions by Canada and Mexico unless the labeling rules are brought into compliance or dropped. The chairman of the House Agriculture Committee has already introduced a bill to rescind the labeling mandate for beef, pork and — to avoid future battles — chicken.”
http://www.latimes.com/opinion/editorials/la-ed-food-labels-20150520-story.html
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Posted by: Bill Tozer | 27 May 2015 at 10:43 AM
It’s that white part of Obama I cannot stomach anymore.
…and who can blame you for that!?
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A wee muffled voice from the Devils Exile Island cries into the air, “Well then, kill all the lawyers”, followed by silence.
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More whining about trade bills while overlooking the true menace……
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/science/science-news/11633838/Killer-robots-will-leave-humans-utterly-defenceless-warns-professor.html
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What’s this……progpocrisy……from Fauxcohontas, darling of the progressive left….Oh Noes!!!!
REPORT: Elizabeth Warren Made Quick Profits on Foreclosed Homes…
http://www.nationalreview.com/article/418907/elizabeth-warren-bought-foreclosed-homes-make-quick-profit-jillian-kay-melchior
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Don, blah, blah, blah. Neither office sanctioned us and in fact, the Elections office was incorrect when they claimed we hadn’t filed a report. They had it all along. There was no unaccounted for money – that is a figment of your overactive imagination. Go harrass sick children, something you relish doing.
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Fish 11:51 AM
Liz Warren is a simple run of the mill liberal hypocrite. She took advantage of a really old and fragile woman to swipe her house. Your link is a real eye opener. Next we’ll find that she owns “pharma” stock!
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Posted by: Todd Juvinall | 27 May 2015 at 02:12 PM
I don’t care about “pharma” stock…..I am surprised that even with less Indian heritage than I have (…and I, to the best of my knowledge have none) gets to be Harvard Laws Native American diversity sweepstakes winner and gets a pass from the “cultural appropriation” screaming left!
Yes, Senator Fauxcahontas Crockagewea Warren’s got her own scandal – in that she got hired as Harvard Law School’s “first woman of color” on the basis of a dubious claim to be one thirty-second Cherokee and having contributed Cole Porter and the Duchess of Windsor’s favorite crab dish from an upscale Manhattan restaurant to a cookbook of authentic tribal recipes.
http://www.steynonline.com/6964/are-you-dumber-than-a-box-of-rocks
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Fish,the reason “pharma” is so costly to old geezers like me is Liz Warren and her demand for higher returns on her stocks made it so.
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Another barely discernible sound arises from Devils Exile Island.
Maybe Lizzy Forked Tongue is indeed a Cherokee Princess. Mr. Crabb and I have described their uniqueness on these pages on previous comments. Don’t think Mr. Crabb had a high opinion of their special high spirited qualities, nor fond memories.
Hate to see Mr. Fish go through life without the tribal experience. Therefore, Awawalacawdadaw, I hereby declare Mr. Fish and Mr. Juvinall honorary members of the once great and mighty, yet still always proud tribal members of my roots, the Pocatwatalots. You are hereby and forever more persons of color.
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How about some commentary on Rand Paul’s honest, refreshing observation about his party’s Chickenhawks being largely responsible for the rise of ISIS. SPOT-ON Mr. Paul. Its too bad he’s totally wrong on so many domestic issues.
Shake up the traveling clown show, Rand!
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Posted by: Jon | 27 May 2015 at 03:57 PM
Funny “jon”…..I agree….but he’s better on the domestic stuff!
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Fun ny how “jon” wants to say hooray on one issue from a Republican but would never cast a vote for one of them. Totally BS. But that is a liberal for you. And that is why they are a shrinking number every day.
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Thanks BillT for acceptong me into your tribe. What a hoot, me and Lizzie!
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Don’t understand your point Todd. I legitimately agree with Rand Paul on foreign policy. Am I voting for him? Only if I hear some moderation on domestic issues and a better sense of reality at home. But from listening to him speak today on the middle east, I am very, very comfortable on his foreign policy. That despicable Hawk wing of the Repub party has wrought more damage to our foreign relations, and cost us thousands of young people, and trillions in wasted money that could have been redirected to rebuild our homeland. Those cretins deserve every bit of scorn Mr. Paul can dish out. So yes, hurray for Rand on the most important issue facing our nation.
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but on a lighter note, it was kinda fun to see Bobby Jindal, and Santorum as well, get all worked up in a lather, in an attempt to get the media’s attention for more than 2 minutes this election season.
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Slippery evasion pattie, if by sanctioned you mean fined, true. But that does not change the findings and warning letter or that all of your reports in sept 2104 were rejected so at the time of the complaint everyone other than you guys agreed. What is funny is that with all your lawyers and the whole dem central committee you guys still had problems. Get furth to explain the meaning of a warning letter and having a FPPC file. LOL
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“Jonnie” 5:27 PM, you should vote for Rand Paul. His foreign policy fits the liberal mindset perfectly. His domestic policies are pretty good but he has no executive experience and that is going to be a problem.
The fact that you have Hillary, Bernie Sanders and that clown Mallory from Maryland says a lot about the left. It is a mess. The right has many qualified candidates while the left has none. But I hope we can get debates on the left now.
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Don, I bet you were the unpopular hall monitor in high school that was always running to the prinicipal to tattle on other students. You spend so much time looking for dirt on everyone and you then you can’t accept it when there is nothing to your suspicions. If we had done anything amiss, the FPPC would have fined us. They are not shy about handing out fines.
And what exactly are you claiming they are warning us about? They acknowledged that YOU sent in incomplete samples of our campaign materials and that ours had the proper “paid by” notifications. They also acknowledged all of our financials were in order, so if anyone has a negative file with the FPPC, it’s you! Let it go. You lost (in trying to discredit us).
PS Newsflash, the Measure S campaign is over.
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hey fish, I know the political day you’ve been longing for is finally here! George Pataki announces for President. A fiscal and socially moderate, and a huge War Hawk that would send ground troops back into Syria and Iraq and massively ramp up military spending! Maybe even propose a new draft. Yeah baby, that’s the ticket.
Only issue that could derail a Pataki Administration would be the small fact that a mere .0005% of Americans of non-New Yorkers are able to pick the man out of a lineup.
The Clown Car rolls on. Cue the circus music.
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Why would you assume (other than yet another feeble attempt at humor) that I would have any interest in Pataki as either a presidential candidate or politician in general?
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fish, sarcasm my friend, sarcasm. Come on now..
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Sorry….sometimes the “SarcoMeter™” is on the fritz!
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Bernie Sanders, the loon from Vermont along with Pocahontas Warren from Massachusetts are on board the democrat bus of stupid now. Well, not Pocahontas. Those libs really are desperate!
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You underestimate Bernie at your peril. He won’t win the Presidency, but his common sense, populist positions on most issues will be heard by nearly everyone, that I will guarantee. I don’t support some of Bernie’s domestic fiscal stuff, but then again, there is not a single politician in history that any thinking person would support without exception.
Todd, who is Mallory?
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Jonnie, Bernie Sanders is a nut. He may be fun in the debates with Hillary and O’Malley the pec man from Maryland. The R’s have a lot of people giving it a shot while the loony democrats have what? A old babe who lies through her teeth and enables her hubby to chase other women? Jeeze, can’t the dems find at least a candidate equal to say Carter?
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Not sure its going to be real effective for 20+ candidates trying to grab the mic at the Repub debates. You think 20 egos and their supporters and allies are going to come together quickly after the first few primaries, and put all in on one savior so the Kochs and other right wing billionaires can maximimize their impact on the election? Hardly. No, rather its going to be fun watching 20 people try to fit into a debate for 10…the lawyers will be very busy with the filings and squabbling.
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Pattie, pattie, pattie. It took you until Jan 22 2015 to properly amend your financials. We complained in Sept 2014. When we sent the complaint the county followed immediately with 5 letters to your crew. As to the ad issue, read this slow now….. there is no back side to an ad on a newspapers regular pages, the same applies to wall mounted ads. You guys think you can do anything and then play the victim when held to the same standards we all have to live with, its so trite. That is what campaigns do. I wonder what the ratio of dem on R complaints v. R on dem FPPC complaints are in CA or just in Nevada County? While yes you did get slaughtered in the Measure S campaign your recent spin seem like posturing for a revisionist history to support a possible 2016 CA ballot proposition. You spin so much I have ask did you spin 45’s on the radio back in the day?
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Don, keep making claims that no one outside of you cares about. We sent the FPPC copies of our ads and our fliers and they didn’t have a problem. It a tired tactic to try to make something out of nothing. Some of the pieces you mentioned were not created by Citizens for Fair Laws and were noted as such. You are mixing apples and oranges (as usual).
They only thing I am “posturing” for is the same as always, making sure patients have access to safe and legal marijuana (as I have done for 40+ years). What is your motivation for keeping medicine from sick children or Vets with PTSD?
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