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“Islam was never the religion of peace.  Islam is the religion of fighting.”  Abu Bahr Al-Baghdadi, ISIS Leader

George Rebane

Indeed Islam has never been the religion of peace.  History and ongoing worldwide Islamist terror attest to that.  The above quote from a recent ISIS online video is just the latest testimony to a truth understood by all but the most deluded of western progressives.  We recall that for war it only takes one to tango, peace requires at least two.  Today Islam survives as the only religion whose adherents regularly commit mass murders of people embracing other faiths, and even versions of Islam that are not acceptable to their various sects.

That we in the west still deny the demonstrably bloody nature of a self-declared bloody religion is testimony that ours may no longer be a strong and vibrant culture ready to defend itself against a faith that numbers some of the most sincere, devout, and self-sacrificing followers on earth today.  Nowhere is ignorance of this existential threat to civilization displayed more than at 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue.

KirstenPowersThe Silencing: How the Left is Killing Free Speech by liberal Democrat, media pundit, and national correspondent Kirsten Powers represents a long overdue watershed.  For years RR has cited the total asymmetry of how those of the Left and Right interpret the First Amendment.  The Left continues to prosecute and expand its attacks on Americans who seek to freely voice their beliefs and strongly held convictions.  A flood of examples are available at every level of public discourse from Krugman’s recent attack on Alan Greenspan (‘A Liberal Speech Cop Targets Alan Greenspan’) to the chorus of our local leftists (see ‘TechTest2015 Survivors’ Breakfast’ comment stream) ever seeking to silence voices they consider disagreeable or expository.

The collectivists’ cacophony on silencing free speech has become so loud that some prominent liberals are getting worried.  Democratic strategist Donna Brazile stated on national TV, “We have to be very careful that we are not practicing a new McCarthyism.”  But McCarthy never dreamt of having the levels of speech control that are now routinely practiced by the Left; controls that range from our schools and colleges, through government bureaucracies, to our mass media outlets.

For a snoot full of very disturbing specifics, I urge RR readers to peruse this excerpt from Kirsten Powers’ new book.

[update]  On the matter of equivalence in the proscription of free speech.  The awaited comment below came from a sincere mid-roader who took up the gauntlet for the Left which has always maintained that its efforts to roll back the First Amendment are no different from and matched by those of the Right.  I suppose that it is an indelible part of the mid-roaders’ litmus test to always seek balance in their ascribed sins of the Left and Right.

However, there is not a shred of evidence for maintaining the argument for such equivalency.  Anyone from the Right who stands to limit the Left’s speech is immediately dunned by his colleagues, and, if unrepentant, is publicly drummed out of the conservative corps.  The facts of the matter are that more sensible Democrats (leftists) see the asymmetry to be so blatant today that they are beginning admonish the more rabid colleagues to back off from their Orwellian quest.

[20may15 update]  Demilitarization of nation’s police – don’t believe it.  Obama’s recent order to not sell tracked vehicles, grenade launchers, and 50 cal BMG rifles to local constabularies makes no never mind to the military gear that they already have and can still obtain.  As long covered in these pages, military equipments that will remain in local police inventories include armored combat vehicles (e.g. MRAPs), automatic weapons, night vision gear, … . The main point here is that the feds still want the police to have overwhelming tactical capability to quickly quash any uppity uprising by a more lightly armed public.  In the interval full military style SWAT assaults (many erroneous) on private residences continue to increase unabated.  A careful look will reveal that Leviathan has shed neither a tooth or claw.  (more here and here)

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149 responses to “Scattershots – 18may15 (updated 20may15)”

  1. Jeff Pelline Avatar
    Jeff Pelline

    More “intellectual” fodder for the parents of Tech Test participants to read from one of its esteemed board members. You can’t make this stuff up!

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  2. Todd Juvinall Avatar
    Todd Juvinall

    Pelline is the poster child described in Powers book. He is so afraid of dissent and is so PC he moderates off anyone not a extremist liberal such as he from his own blog. You just can’t make this stuff up! ROTFLMAO!

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  3. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    Haven’t watched tv for awhile, but when I did I found her to be fair and open minded and at times candid while hanging on to her core beliefs. Indeed a disturbing trend that has been eroding the iron protection of the First Amendment like rust, which never sleeps.
    Favorite paragraph:
    The illiberal left seeks to short-circuit this process. They don’t want to defend their views, nor do they want to allow forums for other people to present views that are at odds with the conclusions they have drawn on an array of issues. Sometimes, the mere suggestion of holding a debate is cast as an offense.

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  4. Jeff Pelline Avatar
    Jeff Pelline

    Todd,
    My lawyer advised me to moderate you off my blog. He reminded me that I was responsible for your tripe.

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  5. Todd Juvinall Avatar
    Todd Juvinall

    Sure Pelline, just like you were not at the NID hearing. Yep, sure, ROTFLMAO!
    You just can’t make this Pelline stuff up!

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  6. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    Todd, pay it no mind. He is still trying to get the Bonnaza Market to take down their Gator and Kangaroo Jerky sign inside the front window. Don’t think anyone else on the planet has tried to persuade a small market to remove that sign, the same sign I see displayed inside the little market window in downtown Penn Valley. That says it all. Just another example of many examples that is the gist of Dr. Rebane’s excellent post: The First Amendent to our Constitution is tolerated by the Lefty Elitists only if you agree with what is said and should not be applied to opposing views.
    Most alarming trend applied under the guise of equal time not afforded to “the other side”. The Tea Party Patriots should not rent space for a get together unless progressives are allowed the same space at the same time. Many ways to squash dissent of views going against the current changing tides. There outta be a law! Opps, there already is a law. It’s the law of the land. It’s called the Constitution of The United States of America.
    I read a couple weeks back that a community in WI passed a law making it the first community to enshrine the rights of atheists in black and white to protect their views. At first I thought that was unnecessary at a minimum, silly at best. But, it did occur to me that it just might protect the atheists in the future so they can reject Allah and any form of Sharia Law without repercussions. Ya never know what might come down the pike.
    Always said I wish atheists would defend the rights of those who believe in God as vigorously as those of us who defend their right to not believe in any Supreme Being. I also wish the left would defend the rights of opposing views just as vigorously as they uphold their right to free speech and free association.

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  7. RL Crabb Avatar

    Although Powers is correct in pointing out how her own party is mangling the first amendment, the right is rushing to keep pace. Why, in Florida, it is the government that has made the mere mention of global warming a firing offense.

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  8. Todd Juvinall Avatar
    Todd Juvinall

    If you are correct BillT about those signs it might not have anything to do with the signs. It may be the race of the people owning the store. Could there be some liberal racism in it? Hmmm.

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  9. George Rebane Avatar

    RLCrabb 744am – Bob, could you please give a citation for that? It would be most disturbing if true that any conservative of liberal would behave that way.

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  10. fish Avatar
    fish

    Posted by: Jeff Pelline | 18 May 2015 at 06:48 AM
    Sure he did…….

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  11. RL Crabb Avatar

    That’s easy. The story has been all over the net. Just google “global warming Florida” for more… http://www.tampabay.com/news/environment/globalwarming/climate-change-ban-boosts-floridas-image-as-the-punchline-state/2221128

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  12. Todd Juvinall Avatar
    Todd Juvinall

    Jeeze, what a bunch of hooey. A few disgruntled Florida liberals in the Scott bureaucracy make a claim? And he is quizzed about it on a comedy show? The link was more telling about “climate change” advocates when you listen to the condescending John Kerry on the video.

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  13. George Rebane Avatar

    RLCrabb 802am – Apparently such reports are easier proofs for some than for others. Nowhere in that report did it support your “Why, in Florida, it is the government that has made the mere mention of global warming a firing offense.” In fact, the reports copy contains exactly the counter claims. My asymmetry contention stands.
    But in the lamestream this thread of ‘Florida the laughingstock’ is of piece with Bush3’s gaff with FN’s Kelly. Bush3 clearly substituted the erroneous but logical question, which Kelly did not ask, for the illogical one that she did ask. No one would have attacked Iraq given the knowledge prevalent in 2015. The only sensible question was the one based on knowledge prevalent in 2003 – and Bush3 answered YES to that. But the press has made a field day of it, and more so since Bush3 fumbled his recovery.

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  14. Ben Emery Avatar
    Ben Emery

    Islam is carrying the tradition on handed down by their relative religions Christianity and Judaism. Centralized power structures are inherently violent due to the natural instinct or strategy of self preservation. Doesn’t matter the religion whether it is a “One God” or “Multiple God” religion it is all the same once a hierarchical centralized organizational structure is put in place. When democracy is taken out of the equation and the orders come from a man made structure with a top down system it becomes about self preservation of the organization not the spiritual message. Traditionally centralized power had held the potential of great damage and violence. In the modern world individuals with the right materials and technology possess dangerous levels of delivering massive damage and violence. The problem with religions and their institutions lays with the masses being taught a literal interpretation of the scriptures instead of reading the scriptures as metaphors of inner growth and development.
    The answer is God is within every one of us but we make the mistake of making the Creator an external power, God/ Creator is found in everything.
    Mitakuye Oyasin
    Peace
    ~Ben Emery

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  15. Ben Emery Avatar
    Ben Emery

    On the freedom of speech front anybody speaking out against the status quo has always been targeted for their freedom of speech being stifled.
    NSA/ FISA Act Spying
    https://www.aclu.org/issues/national-security/privacy-and-surveillance/nsa-surveillance
    Whistle Blower Oppression
    http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2012/06/obamas-whistleblowers-stuxnet-leaks-drones
    Violating freedom of speech through intimidation and violence
    https://www.aclunc.org/blog/pepper-spray-protests-lead-strong-campus-free-speech-policies
    The fact the Patriot Act is coming up for extension once again is a perfect example of freedom of speech being targeted by massive invasion of our privacy.
    One just needs to go to the Holder(Obama administration) v. Humanitarian Law Project case. The unaccountable SCOTUS sided with the status quo on allowing massive spying on American citizens and ability to declare organizations terrorists groups based on that spying. SCOTUS is the status quo and have usurped powers that make them the strongest branch in our federal government without any accountability.
    Does The Patriot Act Violate Free Speech?
    http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=123993822

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  16. Gregory Avatar
    Gregory

    Pelline doesn’t have much of a blog left to moderate, he’s chased everyone off who could actually generate a discussion with varied views.
    Following Crabb’s link, that some get their fake news from Comedy Central continues to amaze… the guy poking the Florida governor for directing state employees not to use the words “climate change” claims the GOP invented “climate change” when they tried to ban “global warming”, but it was the enviro left who morphed the message from global warming to climate change so they didn’t have to rely on warming and could report scary weather as CO2 driven despite “the Pause”.
    The Pause by the terrestrial record is over 18 years, and over 21 years by the higher quality satellite measures of air temperatures. There is little that can keep the cooling forecast by physicists from happening, the only real question is how long before the weather convinces the unwashed masses that maybe the global warming scare is best forgotten. Democrats wanting to continue the Scare for as long as possible should pray for an El Nino
    BTW, by a NOAA paper, the signature of anthropogenic global warming on California are wet winters. Lefties may get that info with confidence from last December’s Mother Jones.

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  17. Gregory Avatar
    Gregory

    So, Florida state employees wishing a long career under the Republican du jour need to stay away from AGW campaigning. Federal EPA (and California state employees) who want a long career already know to stay away from “natural variations”.
    The basic rule is “don’t bite the hand that feeds you”.

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  18. George Rebane Avatar

    BenE 911am – Do you have any guidance on how Oyasin’s good words should advise policy on 1) Islam’s quiet colonization of the west, and 2) radical Islam’s existential threat to destroy western (and any other) civilization as it stands in the way of its global caliphate objective?

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  19. Todd Juvinall Avatar
    Todd Juvinall

    Does Ben Emery know anything about the Prophet? Perhaps he needs to go back and review his life and goals. If they had not been stopped at the gates of Vienna in 1529 Ben Emery would be kneeling five times a day to the east. If he refused he would be headless!

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  20. RL Crabb Avatar

    As Paul Simon once said, “A man hears what he wants to hear and disregards the rest.” The ability of liberals and conservatives to swallow their own bullshit never ceases to amaze me.

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  21. Todd Juvinall Avatar
    Todd Juvinall

    I agree RL. Just as indies swallow the BS from both sides.

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  22. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    George
    You’ve got to give me credit for scoping this one early. McConnell is all gooey over Obama over the TPP which is a perfect example of the Republicrats marching together to serve answer the call from big business and international corporations.
    “”The president has done an excellent job on this,” McConnell said in an interview with ABC’s “This Week.” “I point out to my members who are somewhat squeamish, as you can imagine, giving the president the power of any issue, given his expansive view of his powers on so many other issues. But this is a trade promotion authority not just for President Obama, but for the next president as well. ”
    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/05/17/mitch-mcconnell-tpp_n_7300842.html
    The Mainstream Republicans have no problem compromising national sovereignty on this one by using the Investor-State Dispute Settlement process.

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  23. George Rebane Avatar

    RLCrabb 1026am – I suppose that is your last word on the matter. And I in turn have tried to address the nature of your affliction on equivalency in the 19may15 update above.
    PaulE 1042am – You may have all the credit you wish as long as we are careful not to confuse the TPA, now the issue, with the secretive TPP that has yet to reveal its innards. Both the Right and Left agree on the president having negotiation latitude given by the TPA, and both are betting that the TPP will bolster their own visions of America’s future. The Right sees economic growth in supplying newly opened markets and having to import from facile, low cost suppliers. The Left sees an America more tightly integrated under international trade laws that serve as the harbingers for the brave new global order envisioned under Agenda21.

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  24. RL Crabb Avatar

    Here’s a more detailed report on the deletion of banned speech… http://fcir.org/2015/03/08/in-florida-officials-ban-term-climate-change/

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  25. George Rebane Avatar

    RLCrabb 1106am – the cited report specifically states that there is no such ban, all references to it are hearsay which have been countered by their public denials from the governor’s office.
    BTW, we here are not really talking about ‘free speech’ as it is understood and practiced under the Constitution. Corporations and govt agencies can and do have the right to wordsmith their lawful institutional messages any way they wish. If such institutions proscribe the speech of their workers when not acting in their official capacity, that would be a different matter.
    I think your R/L symmetry arguments still need considerable work.

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  26. RL Crabb Avatar

    Your ideological dyslexia is duly noted, George.

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  27. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    George
    It is the TPP that the Repubs are celebrating an anticipated victory despite opposition of most Dems and Tea Party Republicans.
    “Republican majority leader Mitch McConnell said on Sunday the Senate will pass “fast-track” authority to negotiate major trade deals this week, despite opposition to the measure from many of President Barack Obama’s fellow Democrats.
    “Yes, we’ll pass it. We’ll pass it later this week,” McConnell said in an interview with ABC.
    The trade issue has made unlikely allies of the Republican majority leader and the Democratic president. McConnell said on Sunday that Obama has “done an excellent job” on the trade issue……..We will have the votes,” Ryan said on CNN’s “State of the Union.” “We’re doing very well. We’re gaining a lot of steam and momentum.”

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  28. George Rebane Avatar

    PaulE 1131am – Not sure I understand your point apropos my 1118am.
    Administriva – Please direct your kind attention to the 18may15 update to the post on last Tuesday’s SoJ prezo. It includes the observations by Messrs George Boardman and Eduard Garcia of the NC SoJ steering committee.
    http://rebaneruminations.typepad.com/rebanes_ruminations/2015/05/supes-hear-state-of-jefferson-prezo.html

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  29. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    George
    I was clarifying that McConnell and Ryan are expressing enthusiasm for the passage of the TPP which you described as “secretive TPP that has yet to reveal its innards”.

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  30. RL Crabb Avatar

    Okay, so we’ll move past the climate issue… http://www.cbsnews.com/news/alabama-bill-targets-gay-authors/

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  31. George Rebane Avatar

    Re how the media mangles the message, Fox News Sunday stuck their foot past their tonsils yesterday when Chris Wallace attempted to replicate the mileage his colleague Megan Kelly got with her Bush3 interview.
    Wallace asked Sen Rubio, “Would you have invaded Iraq? Yes or No.” In light of the current hoopla over who knew what when, the question could only be answered conditionally, and Rubio attempted to do that several times by injecting ‘Had I known only what was then known …’. But echoing the persistent interrogation techniques of both his father and Sen McCarthy, Wallace kept stepping on Sen Rubio’s tongue, and insisted repeatedly ‘Just answer my question please!’ Rubio’s own persistence paid off, and he was able to give the complete answer, “If I’d known only what was known then (2003), yes I would have invaded Iraq.” This avoided the subsequent brouhaha that an unconditional answer would have generated.
    I have no idea why Wallace tarnished his otherwise excellent journalistic credentials by trying to push such a cheap and uninformative gotcha question. I suppose that nobody is perfect.

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  32. Todd Juvinall Avatar
    Todd Juvinall

    Paul Emery’s position on free trade is rich. All my life I have seen the industries of America go overseas because the democrats shoved millions of laws and regulations down their throats and the businesses said adios. Now those same people, mostly democrats, oppose the trade agreements because it may impact their union payoffs. The R’s have pretty much been for free trade and as the left always says, “it is one world”.
    Government employees in Florida have been used to passing along their philosophies over the objections of people not agreeing with them. If the Governor, the Chief Executive, has a position against “Global Warming” and the employees disregard his positions and try to undermine him, to me that is a fire-able offense. We had the same thing happen here many years ago and if someone working for the Executive wants a different approach they certainly can quit and become an advocate. I say Go Governor Scott!

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  33. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    Gotta side with the good doc on this one. Commerical speech and workplace speech is different than free speech as we know it. The City of Seattle has banned its employees from using the term “brown bag” in the workplace. What the employees say at home is none of the City’s business. “Brown Bag” got banned because it harkened back to days of yore when a “colored person” could only enter certain establishments serving distilled spirits if their skin color was as light or lighter than a brown paper bag which the bouncer held up to the person’s face for comparison. Doubt if anyone around today finds the term offensive, especially those watching their budgets and brown bag it for lunch.
    As a side note, I am not allowed to speak to the media, be it press, radio, video, or on-line representing the Company without expressed permission from the Publiv Relations department first and the host of lawyers Back East. Off work I say what I want, how I want, when I want. On the job, I veer away from my usual offensive rude Equal Opportunity Offender ways, you ass wipes.
    These are mere distractions from the heart of the matter. Colleges and their indoctrineated pupils are most sensitive to hurtful speech, offensive speech, and conservative speech (except those pursuing a business degree) to the point of banning/barring it under the umbrella of “hate speech”. If folks agree with them and their professors, it makes them feel good. Herd mentality. If someone disagrees with their stances on, say, abortion or politics, then it hurts their feelings and is offensive. Feelings over substance if you attend an institution of higher learning (ironically formerly based upon the free flowing exchange of ideas and diverse opinions) or if you are a public servant, you spout the company line….or else. Don’t make waves.
    I cannot stomach the old Japanese expression, but it is so accurate referring to our progressive friends. Makes me cringe to even type it. “The nail that stands up gets pounded down.”
    I have noticed that when discussing certain topics lately and viewing the media on-line, whenever someone says what President Obama is doing is unconstitutional, the mouthpiece for the other side rolls their eyes and basically replies “don’t go spouting The Constitution again, that pesky antiquated piece of paper written by rich white landowners centuries ago. This is modern times, so put that little Constitution of yours back in your hip pocket and quit bringing up matters the founders could not possible foresee and you don’t understand. Get with the times.”
    They would prefer a No Constitution Zone in discussing current events. Roll your eyes all you want, ass wipes. But when they get a speeding ticket or are arrested for failure to disperse at a demonstration turned ugly, they are the first to scream bloodily murder that their Constitutionally guarenteed rights have be thrown asunder. Lol.

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  34. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    So Todd I take it you are a supporter of the TPP

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  35. George Rebane Avatar

    RLCrabb 1200pm – Got to hand you that one Bob. You have dug up a (putatively) conservative knuckle dragger. But please recall that the point that RR has always made is the asymmetry of such proscriptions by the Right and Left. Even though you have found one such case (and probably can find another with sufficient digging), this does not address the point made here, long acknowledged by most clearly thinking people, and now illuminated by Ms Powers that there really is no equivalence in how the two ideological poles treat the freedom to speak, especially in the public forum.

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  36. Todd Juvinall Avatar
    Todd Juvinall

    I am a free trade advocate and if it fits that I would support it. But since I am unable to travel to DC and read the thing in the “secret room” I will withhold my judgement on this particular endeavor.

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  37. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    Well Todd, to your credit, that distances you from McConnell and Ryan.

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  38. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    Fox News reports:
    “Police were ramping up security in Waco, Texas, Monday, fearing further violence in the wake of a brawl and shootout between members of rival motorcycle gangs a day earlier that left nine dead and 18 injured.”
    Another example of what happens when stupid and dangerous people are allowed to carry guns.

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  39. Don Bessee Avatar
    Don Bessee

    PE 1252- ‘allowed to carry’ I would guess that none of those gang members can legally carry a gun but that does not stop scum bags from being armed.

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  40. fish Avatar
    fish

    Posted by: Paul Emery | 18 May 2015 at 12:52 PM
    Your point being……..?

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  41. George Rebane Avatar

    PaulE 1230pm+ – I don’t think that McConnell and Ryan have given unqualified support to a TPP the provisions of which they have not seen – i.e. they will not buy a pig in a poke. But they, as do all of the Right, give support for free trade qualified in that supports our national interests.
    1252pm – And there’s the rub. Who is the arbiter of separating out the “stupid and dangerous people”?

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  42. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    Mr. Paul, alcohol-drug dealing-turf disputes-illegal activity and firearms do not mix. Duh.
    Rock on.

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  43. Todd Juvinall Avatar
    Todd Juvinall

    Besse is right. Those gang members are probably felons and not legally allowed to have a weapon. If they were a minority gang shooting cops they would be heroes to the media and the left.

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  44. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    Mr. Beese. I picked up on that line “allowed to carry” as well, but let it ride. That phrase jumped off the page at me like the letters were ten feet tall.
    Think Mr. Paul has it backwards with his slip of the tongue “allowed to carry”. We all are allowed to carry, except a clearly defined few that are “Not Allowed to Carry.” We are allowed to carry and Goverment does not give us this right; rather, government has a list of mentally ill whack jobs and felons who are not allowed to carry. Allowing comes from phrase “shall not be infringed”, not some power hungry control freak freakazoid public servant who orders us to play “Mother May I?”
    Be that as it may AND is, thankfully not one innocent bystander nor not one single unaffiliated patron was injured. Them hell on wheels outlaws were good shots with nary a stray bullet striking the innocent. I will give them that.

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  45. George Rebane Avatar

    Gentlemen, I feel we’re growing a non sequitur thread here that really belongs in the free-for-all sandbox.

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  46. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    So Besse how do you keep guns out of the hands of those not legally allowed to carry guns? Some kind of registration at point of sale?

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  47. RL Crabb Avatar

    This may be slightly off the subject of free speech, but I find it useful in divining the different modes of totalitarian thought pushed by the left and right. Orwell’s 1984 describes a fascist state of mind fed by the fear of foreigners and a reliance on militarism and police to keep the masses in line. Republicans may say they oppose the surveillance of the citizenry, but if they were to dominate the government they would find it necessary to keep the leftist revolutionaries in check. On the left side of the spectrum, the Brave New World model (sex, drugs and rock’n’roll) is already taking hold. At this point in history, the opposing parties have drifted far into these radical camps, and the only thing keeping one or the other from taking over completely is the parity that keeps our government seesawing from one to the other. http://www.openculture.com/2015/03/huxley-to-orwell-my-hellish-vision-of-the-future-is-better-than-yours.html

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  48. Gregory Avatar
    Gregory

    EPA’s Gina McCarthy made it clear a long time ago that EPA employees who push natural climate variability being dominant in climate won’t be keeping their jobs; you don’t have a constitutional right to work at cross purposes to your management.
    What the FL governor is apparently doing is perfectly constitutional as far as I can see. Florida no longer wants to be in the catastrophic anthropogenic global warming alarm business. Try the EPA, that’s good for at least another couple years, though with current trends, expect more Floridas, even in Dem states. California will be the last bastion.

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