130 responses to “Sandbox – 11mar15”

1. 

   Todd Juvinall

   12 March 2015

   Do you think Jon Stewart will do a piece on Kerry? Naw, just trash the R’s.

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   George Boardman

   12 March 2015

   I’m pretty sure Mr. Anonymous is Lou Laplante, president of Nevada County Scooper.

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   fish

   12 March 2015

   Oh crap…..Ben is right, the fascists are back on the march…..from beyond the grave!
   http://news.yahoo.com/fascist-sperm-busts-dna-frontier-192608215.html

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   Barry Pruett

   12 March 2015

   Thanks for stopping by today Todd! Nice to see you. Wonder if Cartman requested those public records yet?

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   Jeff Pelline

   12 March 2015

   Barry,
   This is a way out of your league, but as an editor, I’m batting 1-0 vs. Microsoft.
   Thanks, but I have plenty of good attorneys in my Rolodex file. Hope you can help Todd with some eldercare advice, however! Or some cartwheels!
   http://www.editorandpublisher.com/Article/Microsoft-won-t-get-reporter-s-notes-Judge-rules-against-p-14
   http://www.sfgate.com/bayarea/article/Cnet-Reporter-Wins-First-Amendment-Victory-in-2938821.php

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   Todd Juvinall

   12 March 2015

   Nice tour of your new offices Barry. At least you are part of the economy here renting or owning the space. I think Pelline is using a bedroom for his office. Did he get a permit for “home business”? LOL!
   I do not think Pelline is going to pursue the FOIA since it costs a $1.10. Too much dough. LOL!

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   Todd Juvinall

   12 March 2015

   Oops, didn’t see the Pelline “eldercare” remark. Hey Pelline, I challenge you to a fifty yard dash at Pioneer Park. Winner gets a free dinner for two in Nevada City. How about next week? We can see who the “elder” is. ROFLMAO!

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   Michael R. Kesti

   12 March 2015

   Todd Juvinall 12Mar15 at 03:25 PM
   I’d pay $1.10 to see that. Maybe more!

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   Todd Juvinall

   12 March 2015

   Thanks Kesti. I would probably;y blow a gasket in the 65 year old body of mine but it might be fun!

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    Paul Emery

    12 March 2015

    Speaking of tours KVMR is having an open house Saturday from noon to 4. Everybody is welcome. If any of you come by look ask for me.

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    Todd Juvinall

    12 March 2015

    What do you look like? LOL!

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    Walt

    12 March 2015

    Hay Ben.. A little something to ponder. Reagan was the best President in modern time.
    History has chiseled that in stone. He even got a state of the art aircraft carrier named after him. Jimmy Carter got a submarine. ( out of sight, and out of mind?) Bush also got a carrier, and worthy of his name as well.
    Now.. What would be the USS Clinton be? Even better,, “the Obama”?? Princes cruse lines can help out with naming a boat for Clinton. ( We all know how he likes his women)
    As for “O”?? just what ship would be fitting? ( other than one that’s sinking.)
    Guesses anyone?

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13. 

    Steven Frisch

    12 March 2015

    Posted by: Walt | 12 March 2015 at 05:50 PM
    Considering the fact that Jimmy Carter was actually a submariner, graduated from the Naval Academy in 1946 and served 10 years on active duty, including qualifying for command of a diesel electric sub, and participated in the start up of the US nuclear sub program, I think it is fitting that he has a sub named after him.

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    Walt

    12 March 2015

    So Steve hits Wiki to try and save the day. ( Berkeley U of the net)
    Capital ships like carriers get named after Presidents as a general rule.
    Funny how Carter winds up the exception. I guess they really felt sorry for the worst President ( popular opinion even today, with the argument that “O” has taken over that title) and the ones in charge said ” we got this spy sub that needs naming,,,”
    The truth is Steve, not many people even know about the sub.
    Need proof? Go do a “man on the street” test. Start in Nevada City.

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    George Rebane

    12 March 2015

    Have to agree with Frisch’s 608pm. Having been a nuclear sub combat systems developer and known a number of SSN and SSBN skippers, the most impressive thing Jimmie Carter did was to qualify to serve as deck officer of an SSN. The test for that is grueling and requires the officer (when on watch he commands the ship) to know every subsystem on the sub right down to the knob, lever, dial, and switch, in addition to being able to fight the ship in various tactical situations against both sub and surface targets. Oh yes, he first had to pass muster with the mean sumbich who was also the father of our nuclear Navy, Adm Hyman Rickover. Rickover insisted on personally interviewing and passing on every officer who served on ‘his’ SSNs and SSBNs. Not everyone made it.
    However, as his later career attested, Jimmie should have stayed in the Navy, or at least on the peanut farm.

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    Steven Frisch

    12 March 2015

    Yeah Walt, how gauche to actually check facts before I post them. I knew most of that already, being an avid reader, but what is the point of having technology at ones fingertips if one does not use it? Perhaps a little more reading on a regular basis and less stubbornly holding on to beliefs in the absence of information would improve things. I know Hyman Rickover would approve 🙂

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    Walt

    12 March 2015

    Well Steve,, think Rickover would have approved of they way Carter ran the Country?
    Giving away the Panama Canal was such a GREAT idea. His handling of the hostage situation was even worse. A submarine officer does not a President make.
    So. Which garbage scow is suitable for “O”? Maybe Putin will give him a namesake.
    Or a Mosque in the new Middle East Caliphate? Yup,, ISIS might put up a statue in Baghdad
    in his honor. ( to replace the one of Saddam that got dragged down)
    “O” IS the Father of that group. They were born of his arrogance. It was “O”‘s great idea to pull all the troops out, and let them rise to power.
    Don’t forget that “O” allowed one of our most sophisticated spy drones to fall into enemy hands.
    Day by day, “O” is looking more like one of “them” than one of “us”.
    All that “talking to our enemies” has worked out swell.
    Mullah Husane Obama camel farm has a good ring to it.

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18. 

    Don Bessee

    12 March 2015

    I hope lefty jeffy didn’t roll over little kids with all his rolling on the floor today and the real question is how many it took to help him get up? LOL I think we all know why he is happy to harp about the union not doing another (remember they and Yuba net did one at the very beginning) records request and not doing it himself. If he did he would not be able to help the fruth crew and gasp may have to actually post some real news with non-partisan facts. Perhaps we should do it ourselves and publish it all as a public service since he is afraid to. What a crack up his bringing up some ancient history that is irrelevant to deflect BP’s offer. ‘I won one and so I am a weiner and don’t want to mar my perfect record of 1 and 0’. Kind of like the 40 year old high school jock who is still living in the past, the only difference is the jock actually did something. 😉

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    joe smith

    12 March 2015

    Walt, you are such an ignorant fuck. If you believe Obama was personally responsible for a drone falling into enemy hands, then you have to give him personal credit for killing Bin Laden. In your equation he is one stand up guy. You just outed yourself as a closet butt buddy of JP.

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    MA Abrams

    12 March 2015

    Don/Joe it’s rather interesting watching you argue with yourself as it’s pretty obvious that both are coming from the same address…..

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    Barry Pruett

    13 March 2015

    http://www.ncscooper.com/lamphier-anonymous-informant-revealed/
    I will be tweeting to Gloria Zane today too…

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    Barry Pruett

    13 March 2015

    Oh yeah…Jeffy’s article about “his” victory. If anyone bothered to read the article, you would have plainly noticed that Pelline’s name is not mentioned once. I guess that we are to believe that all of the success of Jeff’s former employers were because of him. Sound familiar??? Astounding ego.

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    Jeff Pelline

    13 March 2015

    Barry,
    Two comments about me in eight minutes! You are obsessed. In the “big legal world” (well out of your league) companies hire PR people speak for you. Yup I worked with the lawyer on the case as the editor.
    By contrast, here’s your “claim to fame.” LOL.
    http://sierrafoothillsreport.com/2010/04/29/is-the-union-being-used-in-a-mudslinging-political-campaign/

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    Barry Pruett

    13 March 2015

    Trust me…LOL. “I worked with the assistant who worked for the law clerk who worked for a lawyer who worked with the case.” And the mean,old CNET (the company for whom you worked at the time) forgot to publish your “oh so important” deeds…give me a break. Never in my life have I heard someone so determined to publish their imaginary greatness.
    Unlike you Jeff…I am just a boring, ordinary guy who plays softball and drinks beer and fits into this small town well. I do not have to profess my greatness to anyone (especially you), as I am no different than the guys I play ball with. We simply have different professions. Certainly one thing I will never be accused of is being an elitist. Have a good one…I will say “hi” to Cal for you tonight.

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    Jeff Pelline

    13 March 2015

    Barry,
    Your antics in the clerk-recorder’s race revealed your “true self” and has since. You are confusing elitism with experience and know-how. You’ve been practicing your “career” since 2008. You’re a “newbie.”

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26. 

    fish

    13 March 2015

    Posted by: Barry Pruett | 13 March 2015 at 08:31 AM
    No need to be bitter Barry…..even though you “had” to go to law school in Indiana of all places….time to give jeffy credit where credit is due.
    It reminds me of the time I defeated the Iraqi army (fish – 1 Iraq – 0). Back in 1991 if I recall….seems that this Hussein chap was causing a bit of a kerfuffle in the area and even though I didn’t live in his “western such and such community™” I felt I had to intervene. Sure it doesn’t sound like I had much of a hand in the actual conduct of the the war, but In the “big legal world” (well out of your league) companies countries hire PR people armies to (sic) speak fight for you. Yup I worked with the lawyer army on the case war as the editor …err….observer…..yeah that’s it….observer!
    So….following that line of thinking you can totally understand how jeffy vanquished Microsoft and is entitled to full credit for the feat!

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    Barry Pruett

    13 March 2015

    Correcting your voluminous misstatement of fact could be a full-time job in and of itself. I have been a lawyer since 2005…a lot longer than you have been unemployed.
    You know, growing up on the south side of Chicago, the son of a steel worker, I never liked elitists. I always thought, “who the hell does that guy think he is?” I could never stand the person who bragged about things that he really never did. I could never stand the guy who always thought by virtue of his “education” that he had the right and duty to boss people around. I could never stand the guy who always thought that he was somehow better than his fellow man. The elitist must insult and degrade his fellow man in order to make himself feel important.
    Growing up in humble beginnings, I vowed to never be that guy. Regardless of your education, your status (whatever that is), or your wealth, most folks have the same basic dreams and desires and we are generally the same – we have love in our hearts and genuinely want what is best for our fellow man. This comment will certainly generate a “witty” response from you, but a lawyer, journalist, doctor, or professor are no different than a plumber or a farmer; they just use different tool boxes. We have the same love in our hearts and deserve the same respect of our opinions regardless. The feelings of the lawyer are as real as the feelings of the plumber. Such feelings should never be disregarded for the shallow reason that “I have a master’s degree” or “I have a law degree.”
    Elitists look down on others with less education. Elitists have to tell people what to do all of the time, because they honestly believe that they must be right by virtue of their education or status. They discard others with different feelings and beliefs as po-dunk or backwoods. Elitists tout their (what they deem to be) elite education, when in fact such education has only narrowed their thinking instead of expanding it and somehow understanding that they are somehow more valued than others. The dean at my law school during orientation tried to tell my class that they were becoming an elite member of society?! What the hell does that mean? My fear was that some of the kids in my class would actually believe his bullshit.
    Folks in town do not dislike you because of any other reason than you are an outside elitist trying to tell all us of “backwoods” people what to do all the time. You simply cannot relate to folks in the county. When I first discovered who you were you annoyed me beyond all belief. A dear friend told me not to worry as you would be your own worst enemy. Truer words were never spoken.

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28. 

    Todd Juvinall

    13 March 2015

    Barry, you are just one of us. Pelline is one of himself.

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    Jeff Pelline

    13 March 2015

    Barry,
    You were admitted to the California bar in 2008. I hope you weren’t practicing law in our great state before that!
    http://members.calbar.ca.gov/fal/Member/Detail/254986
    BTW, didn’t you relocate your offices? This listing shows you at another address. Better fix that!
    The elitist argument is a false narrative for people who don’t have enough know-how, experience, education or resume compared with their peers. It is the oldest trick in the book to “level the playing field.” But in truth, it isn’t level.
    Let’s face it, Barry, you were running a gym and you made a mid-career switch to law. There’s nothing wrong with that, but you should be humbled by people who have more experience than you, including my experience fighting Microsoft in a legal case. Heck, as a lawyer, might learn something from it.

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    Ben Emery

    13 March 2015

    Walt,
    They want to name Mount Diablo after Reagan now, that is more fitting than anything else. Devil = President Reagan
    In defense of Ronald Reagan and “his” administrations. I don’t believe he had much say in what was going on in them, the inmates were running the asylum for most of his 8 years in office. That is why his administrations were the most federal criminal administrations in US history.
    Hopefully you knew that Jimmy Carter service in the US Navy was highly respected.
    Jimmy Carter’s Naval Service
    http://www.jimmycarterlibrary.gov/documents/jec/jcnavy.phtml

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    Barry Pruett

    13 March 2015

    https://courtapps.in.gov/rollofattorneys/Search/Detail/72e695a8-13b7-e011-9d34-02215e942453
    I was admitted to practice law in 2005, and you know that, but you would rather lie.
    LOL. Thank you for proving my point in connection with your elitism and false chest puffery! What a joke. There is no evidence that you had anything to do with the Microsoft thing. As fish aptly points out, by your “logic,” fish defeated Saddam! You really have no idea the tone and understanding of others in connection to what you say. You are like a case study of a narcissist. Amazing.
    Have a good on my friend. I will let the remainder of readers clean up your mess. BTW when are you going to request from the county the documents identifying anonymous. Then you can link to an article that actually has your name in it.

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    Jeff Pelline

    13 March 2015

    Barry,
    Now you are being foolish. I was the Editor of CNET News. Of course I was involved in the “Microsoft thing,” including hiring the lawyer, discussing the case with him multiple times, going to the hearings, etc. I was right in the middle of it.
    This link on the California State Bar website states you were “admitted to the Bar of California” on “1/17/2008”
    http://members.calbar.ca.gov/fal/Member/Detail/254986
    Once again, you are trying to make up for your lack of experience with a false narrative, just as you did in the clerk-recorder’s race where you lost in every precinct.

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    fish

    13 March 2015

    There’s nothing wrong with that, but you should be humbled by people who have more experience than you, including my experience fighting Microsoft in a legal case. Heck, as a lawyer, might learn something from it.
    OMG…the puffery….the self importance……the distortion of local gravity!
    Promise me you’ll never change jeffy!

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    Todd Juvinall

    13 March 2015

    Barry, no one believes Pelline anyway so he can puff all he wants. At least that part of him is transparent. Now on to more important things.

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    fish

    13 March 2015

    Wait…..that needs some editing……!
    “Now you are being foolish. I was the Editor of CNET News guy who owned the home. Of course I was involved in the “Microsoft thing” “landscaping thing”, including hiring the lawyer gardener, discussing the case mowing, trimming, and edging with him multiple times, going to the hearings kitchen to get lemonade, etc. I was right in the middle of it.
    Well of course you were jeffy….

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36. 

    Ben Emery

    13 March 2015

    Ted Cruz trying to tell NASA Administrator Charles Bolden Jr. what NASA should focus on and what it stands for is like a bunch of bloggers with degrees in Physics, Math, and a building contractor trying to debunk Climate Scientists and their findings that Climate Change is very real and is being fueled by human behavior.
    Ted Cruz Tells NASA to Stop Worrying About Climate Change and Focus on Space
    http://www.nationaljournal.com/2016-elections/ted-cruz-tells-nasa-to-stop-worrying-about-climate-change-and-focus-on-space-20150312
    The actual data that supports Climate Change.
    Data sets and Images
    http://data.giss.nasa.gov/

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    fish

    13 March 2015

    Ted Cruz trying to tell NASA Administrator Charles Bolden Jr. what NASA should focus on and what it stands for is like a bunch of bloggers with degrees in Physics, Math, and a building contractor trying to debunk Climate Scientists and their findings that Climate Change is very real and is being fueled by human behavior.
    I thought the raison d’etre for NASA was Muslim outreach.
    Hey….I’ll see your embarrassing senatorial moment and raise you an even more embarrassing island tipping congressional moment.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v7XXVLKWd3Q

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38. 

    Don Bessee

    13 March 2015

    Still no answer from lefty jeffy as to why he is incapable of doing his own records request? He claims to be a journalist right? Perhaps the lawyers phone numbers in his rolodex are all changed or disconnected or the ones that still work wont return his calls!

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39. 

    fish

    13 March 2015

    While I’m loathe to cut the self important nitwit the slightest bit of slack who really cares who the anonymous source is at this point?
    To quote our next president…..”What Difference, At This Point, Does It Make”?

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    drivebyposter

    13 March 2015

    re: NASA
    A Senator (or House member) telling a science agency what general things to work on strikes me as a completely reasonable thing. A better argument for NASA might be whether to concentrate on actual manned missions, space-based instruments, or basic technology like propulsion systems.
    The EPA (or NOAA? or the Department of Energy?) would probably be a better spot to park money for research/policy making on human-caused pollutants.
    I’m not familiar with the internal politics of those organizations, but it’s easy to imagine that the mission creep comes from chasing money.

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    Todd Juvinall

    13 March 2015

    Ben Emery 11:16 AM
    Yes your criticism of people without degrees having an opinion on Climate Change is like a failed indie candidate supporting the computer modeling of the same thing. I guess we are even.

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    Todd Juvinall

    13 March 2015

    Oh and regarding Ted Cruz being asked to vote billions to NASA doesn’t give him and his 26 million Texans any right to even have a opinion on it? Jeeze, no wonder you are such a failure Ben Emery.

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43. 

    George Rebane

    13 March 2015

    re BenE 1116am – The interested reader should google the course requirements for a degree in ‘climate science’ to fully understand the folly of the progressives’ arguments as evinced in these pages by Ben Emery and folks of his background. The rest should know that it is ONLY people with degrees in hard-quantitative fields like physics, math, and the systems sciences that can even hope to understand what is required to correctly analyze climate related data, and design/build/operate and interpret the outputs of General Circulation Models. And therefore, it is only they who can correctly call themselves climate scientists. The ones who get ‘climate science’ degrees from major universities like Columbia and Johns Hopkins are unarmed and can barely qualify to give PPT presentations correctly on what climate science has discovered. But they are a danger to society in how they influence the gruberized.
    Ben, your misplaced zeal about climate and AGW is heart-rending, and more so as you continue to cite references which you adulate with no understanding as to their content or validity.

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    Gregory

    13 March 2015

    Climate would Change whether we were here or not, Master Ben, and while it is sometimes amusing to hear you repeat the sermons your chosen priesthood are giving you, they just want you to bounce some coin into the collection plate and get used to shivering while they jump into their Gulfstreams and head for the Bahamas.

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    fish

    13 March 2015

    Posted by: George Rebane | 13 March 2015 at 12:08 PM
    Ben, your misplaced zeal about climate and AGW is heart-rending, and more so as you continue to cite references which you adulate with no understanding as to their content or validity.
    Proselytize…..proselytize……proselytize..! The progressive way.

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46. 

    George Boardman

    13 March 2015

    Good work, counselor Pruett, getting the hostile witness to admit he’s an elitist. Know-how, experience, education, resume “compared with their peers.” To the manor born, he was.
    But we should always be skeptical of personal puffery. Whenever Jeffy brags about his newspaper days, I recall the scene in the movie version of “All the President’s Men” when Washington Post editor Ben Bradlee (played by Jason Robards) dismisses a feature salesman by telling him to peddle his new horoscope to the San Francisco Chronicle. That line got a big laugh in the Bay Area theater where I saw the movie.
    Personally, I was born and raised in a log cabin I built myself.

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    Jeff Pelline

    13 March 2015

    George Boardman,
    No you weren’t born in a log cabin. But you never made it to The Chronicle (the little Palo Alto Times was your stomping ground, I recall) and ou wound up going into PR. You also never had the know-how, experience, education and resume of a “big city” journalist — and you wear it on your sleeve. It is possible to have a mid-life crisis when you’re 70 years old? LOL.

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    Gregory

    13 March 2015

    George, you’re just acting like one of those damned elitists with degrees in physics and engineering. Stop thinking for yourself and believe Ben, he’s just trying to save your immortal soul.

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49. 

    Gregory

    13 March 2015

    driveby 11:44 AM, do you remember the Dem Congresscritter grilling the Admiral about how many troops could be put on Guam before it tipped over spilling everyone into the sea?
    http://www.snopes.com/politics/quotes/guamtip.asp

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50. 

    fish

    13 March 2015

    Posted by: Jeff Pelline | 13 March 2015 at 01:37 PM
    Right you are jeffy!
    I imagine right now George is engaging in a serious bout of soul searching regarding never having the opportunity to park next to or fetch coffee for Herb Caen!
    ….and as always I don’t even live in your community. LOL!

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