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Sandbox – 11mar15

11 March 2015

[So much to think and talk about – Hillary's debacles and scandals and incipient candidacy(?), Kentucky's two senators starting to hug each other, Obama's Iranian bumble, The Fed's prevarication on interest rates and the market's dive, Iran 'advising' Iraqi troops against ISIS (remember, these turkeys fought an eight year war recently), al Sisi, our strongest Arab ally, still waiting for a visit to the White House, ragheads by the thousands all over Africa and Asia pledging allegiance to ISIS, …, oh my! And yes, Nevada County's plan for economic development is still AWOL.]

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130 responses to “Sandbox – 11mar15”

Michael R. Kesti

11 March 2015

Today the FUE posted an article on his blog that quotes approximately half of an opinion piece written by Dana Milbank and published by The Washington Post. Other than including a link to the entire article he provided no credit to Mibank or The Washington Post.
One might think that an award winning journalist should know and do better.

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fish

11 March 2015

Posted by: Michael R. Kesti | 11 March 2015 at 09:58 AM
One might……!

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Todd Juvinall

11 March 2015

Isn’t that the modus operandi of “journalists” now?

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RL Crabb

11 March 2015

Mr. P is trying to convince everyone that The Union is wussing out by not naming the anonymous source in the Lamphier scandal. Uh, Scoopy, what’s stopping YOU from enlightening the public? You know the name as well as anyone else who’s paying attention. I’ll tell you why…because he doesn’t want to be slapped with a big fat libel suit to go with his size ninety underpants.

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Ben Emery

11 March 2015

Why would we be surprised the Republicans would interject themselves into middle east affairs outside the normal protocol? I am even less surprised at how the Democrats are pretending to be outraged for political gain. Once again the American people are being used and lied to by the D’s and R’s for an edge in the next election cycle.
Eisenhower had a coup of democratic Iranian government in 1953, LBJ lied about Gulf of Tonkin, Nixon sabotaged Peace Accords causing tens of thousands of US troops subsequent deaths and millions of Vietnamese, Reagan made deals to keep American hostages in Iran until after election, Reagan befriended Saddam Hussein- Osama Bin Laden-Mujahideen, Reagan armed Iran in an illegal arms trade for cash that was laundered through drug lords to fund an illegal covert war in Central America, Bush gave the OK for Saddam Hussein to invade Kuwait, Clinton backed sanctions on Iraqi people and bombing campaigns all throughout the 90’s, Bush lied us into an illegal invasion/ occupation of Iraq and declared Iran axis of evil, and Obama has been using an immoral drone warfare in multiple nations without legal authority to do so from the international community.
https://consortiumnews.com/2012/06/14/admissions-on-nixons-treason/
Admissions on Nixon’s ‘Treason’

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George Rebane

11 March 2015

Let the record show that our very own and indefatigable Reinette Senum is well on the way with her next project to create a sustainable, content, compassionate, and insular community wherein all things local assume a sacrosanct precedence. Ms Senum announces, ‘Nevada County Launches Its First TimeBank: An Alternative Currency Backed By Good Deeds’ – now would you expect anything less?
Full details will be available tomorrow 12 March, 6-8pm at Sierra Mountain Coffee Roasters, 671 Maltman Dr, GV. The alternative currency will be awarded to people doing for each other such jobs as “much needed home repairs, rides to the doctors, yard work, health, child and elder care, companionship, and (other) basic necessities”. All work will be awarded the same number of credits based solely on the number of hours worked – what could be more fair?
The dollar-based system is failing communities according to Ms Senum whose prescription states that “ultimately, Nevada County is becoming its own Federal Reserve of good intentions. We are building a parallel system next to an aging and failing system that cannot adapt quickly enough to the changes coming our way.”
More than a few questions remain about how these alternative currency credits will be issued, vetted, stored as retained value (cleared), used as a unit of account (who sets prices), and trafficked as the medium of exchange. However, I’m sure all that will be explained tomorrow at the Coffee Roasters, and we will be on our way to a new communal and mediated barter society that eschews those worthless fiat dollars. Take that Madame Yellen!

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fish

11 March 2015

Posted by: RL Crabb | 11 March 2015 at 10:53 AM
Again his muddled thinking is on display. jeffy claims that the legal process must be allowed to proceed unimpeded. In this he is correct.
But given this why out an anonymous source at this juncture (I know that’s another of his compulsions….to name and shame!)?

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Todd Juvinall

11 March 2015

Come on Pelline you know who anonymous is regarding the TL issue. Tell us all we are waiting.
I have done a article on my blog about the dustup regarding Iran and the Republican letter. Everyone should read the one page letter. Then decide.

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Walt

11 March 2015

Ben is all over the board today. Reagan made deals with Iran? ( do show some evidence of that) The only “deal” that I know of, it that Reagan was going to go in shooting to get them back as soon as he took office. ( They left captive airspace as his hand was on the Bible) Iran knew he meant business.
Nixon got tossed from office for 18 or so missing minutes of tape recordings.
It didn’t help that he sicked the IRS on his “enemies”. Funny how “O” and Co. have been able to get away with it. Yet Nixon got tossed from office. ( by Repubs no less)
It goes to show that with the Left,”by any means necessary” is alive and well.
Now we have plenty of Obamaites using illicit emails (false names and private addresses)
Still “nothing to see here”. From the EPA on down. No one has been held accountable.
These are LIBS.. They get these exemptions.
As for Hillary, LIBS will give her a pass AND the vote.

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joe smith

11 March 2015

GR11:15
I’ll spend the next 7 weeks tending my carrot garden and give them to the community in exchange for Rennet Sebum shutting her pie hole for whole 7 weeks. “What could be more fair?”

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George Boardman

11 March 2015

Mr. Anonymous must be one powerful dude: Half the community claims to know who he is, but nobody will speak his name in public, not even Lamphier, who you assume has nothing to lose at this point.
If the Lamphier case goes to trial, I’m guessing one side will call him as witness, and then we’ll all know who he is. Of course, his ID won’t change the validity of his original statement that started this chain of events.
As for economic development being AWOL: That shouldn’t be a surprise in a county where the supervisors consider it a category B priority.

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Todd Juvinall

11 March 2015

Excellent points GeorgeB. I guess a lightning bolt will come down and strike the person telling us who he is.

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drivebyposter

11 March 2015

re: The Timebank.
I’ve seen quite a few of these community money things come and go in different places. Typically, it’s a bunch of massage therapists who are trying to swap a backrub for getting their transmission rebuilt or for a root canal. Oddly enough, skilled professionals hardly ever take part.
If want to stir the pot, cook up some sort of local coinage based on precious metals (with a perceived value higher than the metals content of course) and allow local tradesmen and workerbees to post their rates. Of course, the first thing that will happen is that the feds will parachute in and seize the filthy lucre. The federal government wants everyone trapped into their currency, you can’t even get out of the game.

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drivebyposter

11 March 2015

B.Emery: “Why would we be surprised the Republicans would interject themselves into middle east affairs outside the normal protocol?”
You can argue that it’s time to change how this has evolved. Rather like the President’s war-making powers, it seems to me that the executive branch’s ability to make ‘treaties’ (especially the kind that aren’t voted on by Congress) has metastasized far beyond the original intention.
Referring to the President:
“He shall have Power, by and with the Advice and Consent of the Senate, to make Treaties, provided two thirds of the Senators present concur;”
…and to the Congress
The Congress shall have Power To … regulate Commerce with foreign Nations”
I can’t say there’s a lot of consent (or advice) at work here.

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Walt

11 March 2015

We all know how LIBS love to push “fairness” around. And out of the spirit of “fairness”, and to make Iran happy, in the all ” talks”,, John Kerry (with the blessing from “O”) just give them a uh,,um,, “peace offering”.. With all the manuals, instructions, and trigger codes. All in the interests of peace… Right?
For the sake of discussion, any bets on how many weeks before they would use it?
( Ya’ really think they will put it on display for all to see and say ” Look what we got?
We are now good friends with the West and will live in piece with Israel.”

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Gregory

11 March 2015

From The Weekly Standard:
“In September 2002, David Bonior, the second-ranking Democrat in the House of Representatives, flew to Baghdad in an attempt to undermine George W. Bush’s case for war in Iraq on a trip paid for by Saddam Hussein’s regime. Bonior, accompanied by Reps. Jim McDermott and Mike Thompson, actively propagandized for the Iraqi regime. McDermott, asked whether he found it acceptable to be used by the Iraqi regime, said he hoped the trip would end the suffering of children. ‘We don’t mind being used,’ he said.”
No, I don’t generally read the WS, I googled knowing this had happened and this was the cleanest snippet.
BTW just about every statement in Br’er Ben’s 11:15 is utter BS; Ben just has a hard time separating rhetoric from fact.

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Barry Pruett

11 March 2015

If Pelline told everyone who anonymous is, it would undermine his false narrative that Terry’s woes are all because of Republicans. Pelline does not want the truth out; he just wants to bang anonymous on The Union’s head. Pelline gets to beat up on Repubs and The Union at the same time. Perfect for a Pelline drubbing…
If I am not mistaken (and I am not), Pelline has equal access to public records as The Union. In fact, Pelline regularly requests public records from local government on posts his findings. He does not want to know for sure, but I bet that if I were in Terry’s shoes, everyone would know everything “not fit to print”…all courtesy of Cartman.

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Bill Tozer

11 March 2015

Oh, Fatty should gave himself and his size 90 drawers some relief and just shut the fuck up. We all know the Fatty hates anything anonymous and rightly bans anonymous posters. Hey Fatty, shoot the messenger and take some mints to cover up your cum breath. Or, as most sane people implore, let the process play out and unfold in a orderly manner. Understand? Oh, BTY, you have a small piece of shit stuck to a piece of lettuce between your teeth. It is quite distracting. Now take a napkin and wipe your face or there will be no dessert for you.
Hey Fatty, read this link and then do some in depth uncovering, discovering, and trashing of this extreme hard left Democrat. That should keep you busy and out of the speculation game. And no more hugs and kisses until to pick your teeth and take a handful of mints to get rid of that dead man smell. Peace out bro, did your fro. Gimme five on the white liberal side.
You rock! Feel free to take credit for breaking news while you repairing another well built sturdy computer chair, you multi-talker, you.
http://news.yahoo.com/exclusive-california-pension-reform-measure-targets-calpers-may-184159717–sector.html

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Walt

11 March 2015

To ride the coat tails of Gregory, a little more LIB monkey business in Middle East affairs.
” In 2007, against the wishes of the Bush administration and roundly criticized for the move, then House Speaker Nancy Pelosi actually went Syria to have a meeting with President Bashar Assad.”
http://www.breitbart.com/video/2015/03/11/hillary-07-i-applaud-pelosi-going-to-syria-congress-must-engage-iran/
But it’s OK when LIBS do it… Uh,, right?

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Walt

11 March 2015

Damn Bill,, Your sure on the warpath tonight. What happened? The “big guy” refuse to post your comment? ( no real surprise there) Or did he leave your favorite closet in shambles?
Seems you got a reason to be mighty pissed!

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fish

11 March 2015

Posted by: Bill Tozer | 11 March 2015 at 07:38 PM
Doing the lords work William…..the only exercise jeffy gets is complaining that George doesn’t moderate his blog.

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Don Bessee

11 March 2015

WOW that must be some back story Tozer! Since its the sandbox I would like to hear what you all think about the hearings on the Audit of the California courts spending patterns?

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Barry Pruett

12 March 2015

Don’t kid yourself. Pelline already knows who anonymous is; he has been making allusions to the person for sometime. Pelline is not going to be a responsible journalist and tell everyone, because he needs something with which to bludgeon his former employer (The Union). Pelline used to thinly hide his hatred of The Union and conservatives. Now he proudly wears it on his sleeve and at the end of his little fingers.

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Barry Pruett

12 March 2015

Come on Jeffy. Send a public records request to the County so you can confirm what you already know. If money is a problem, as a blogger you can probably get a fee waiver. If not, I will spot you the $1.10. Why are you not outing anonymous? If anonymous was a republican, you likely would have done it already.
No…Pelline does not want to confirm. He wants to keep the false narrative going that “it is all the evil Republicans in Nevada County.” He (and his accomplices, the local Democrat central committee) wants you to forget the real story…”local Democrat elected official charged with three misdemeanor cunts [typo, s/b ‘counts’] of possession of child porn.”
Pelline wants his readers to hop along his little bunny trail…and only the kooks are buying his nonsense. And this guy used to be the editor of The Union. We should petition the county for a holiday in honor of Jeff Ackerman for having the insight to launch Pelline before he could destroy The Union. In any event, Pelline’s jihad against The Union will go on until his demise, but thankfully the community at-large is no longer buying what he is selling.

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Barry Pruett

12 March 2015

I have a form public records request that you can use Jeffie. Oh wait. You already have my form, because you publicly requested it from the county in connection with AtPac. So, take that form, modify it, and send it in. We are waiting for you to scoop The Union. Come on. You are supposedly an “award winning journalist.” Act like it scoopy…out the anonymous source that tipped off law enforcement that Terry was in possession of child porn. You know full well that you have equal rights to the documents as The Union. “Exercise” your rights.
Patiently waiting…

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Jeff Pelline

12 March 2015

Barry,
There is an unfortunate and embarrassing typo in the second paragraph of your 6:11 a.m. rant. A Fraudian slip? ROFLOL.
BTW, unlike you who wrote, ““The only way I can fight back is to never vote for a Democrat,” I have voted for Republicans and Democrats over the years — locally, statewide and in the federal race.
http://www.nwitimes.com/news/opinion/mailbag/the-only-way-i-can-fight-back-is-to-never/article_72d049a2-fcd5-537e-95d7-b384647344e0.html

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Barry Pruett

12 March 2015

What does that have to do with you falsely bludgeoning The Union for not doing something that you could do today? This is not a partisan issue. It is an issue with your hypocrisy and your jihad against The Union that started when they caned you. Go get the records like you demand The Union to do. We are waiting. You know how to do obtain public records…or did they not teach you that when you got a degree in rhetoric. Attacking me is not going to deflect your double standard.

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Jeff Pelline

12 March 2015

Barry,
Your c-word typo made my day! And it’s only 7:27 a.m. You must be learning potty talk from Bill Tozer. ROFLOL.

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Todd Juvinall

12 March 2015

What a hoot! We got to see what the demise of the press is all about in the press conference of Hillary Clinton the other day. The press has its favorites and nothing will shake them to do the right thing. Pelline is no different than the double dealing hypocrites in the lamestream press. As you can see the vacuous mind of Pelline can spell check, that is all.

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fish

12 March 2015

…”local Democrat elected official charged with three misdemeanor cunts of possession of child porn.”
I know it’s always a mistake to encourage his strange compulsions but that is an unfortunate typo.

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Barry Pruett

12 March 2015

That it is fish…that it is.
Still waiting on that public records request from you so you can scoop The Union. Question: Did you learn any other skills at Cal other than the rhetorical tool of attack the messenger? It appears that you could have saved a lot of money by utilizing that rhetorical tool without the diploma.
George, you may want to correct that typo…it is an unfortunate one as fish would say. The copy editor (Pelline) is infatuated with the typo apparently.

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fish

12 March 2015

The copy editor (Pelline) is infatuated with the typo apparently.
The giggles at Chateau Pelline must be deafening….. Like the first time a four year old hears the word “poop”!
…and as always (some type of) LOL!

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Jeff Pelline

12 March 2015

Barry,
You should trade your anger for a spellchecker. ROFLOL.

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fish

12 March 2015

Posted by: Jeff Pelline | 12 March 2015 at 08:34 AM
You should trade your keyboard for a treadmill……
….and as always

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RL Crabb

12 March 2015

Before you Repubbys get your panties in a wad over this hit piece, make sure you watch to where Nancy and Matthews get theirs… http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/03/11/daily-show-gop-under-miner_n_6847568.html

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George Rebane

12 March 2015

Administrivia – Per BarryP’s 828am I have indicated the typo on his 611am. Correcting it without annotation would make the comment thread referencing the typo confusing.

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Barry Pruett

12 March 2015

Angry? Are you kidding? Do you know how much we laugh about our interactions? Every single time that I am bored and decide to point out your hypocrisy (which you are refusing to defend by your complete and absolute failure to respond to the facts raised hereinabove), my email and telephone blow up from folks calling to laugh. Angry? LOL. New law firm, new incredible staff, new building, daughter getting recruited by colleges (Yale among them), extraordinarily happy wife, softball season starting, judging my last college gymnastics meet of the year tomorrow night (at Cal), other daughter exceeding all expectations…yeah…I am so angry…life is so bad. Too funny.
Still waiting for you to tell me why you have not requested the documents identifying anonymous…tick tock…

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Jeff Pelline

12 March 2015

“fish,” aka David of Carmichael,
Weak sauce. You don’t even live in our community! LOL.

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fish

12 March 2015

Posted by: Jeff Pelline | 12 March 2015 at 08:54 AM
18 months and that’s still the best riposte you can muster……there’s your weak sauce. Anyway jeffy Todd made me an official Honorary Resident last week so shouldn’t we “move on”!
…..and as always Setting off the USGS Region 9 Seismograph by Rolling on the Floor Laughing out Loud!

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fish

12 March 2015

Posted by: RL Crabb | 12 March 2015 at 08:45 AM
Heard the audio earlier this week RL. Better to have images to go along with it! I staggers me why the three major networks are confused as to why they are losing viewership?

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Jeff Pelline

12 March 2015

Barry,
You are about as insecure as they come. And you wear it on your sleeve.

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Ben Emery

12 March 2015

Walt, 11 March 2015 at 12:24 PM
I spared the history of US and South America since it would have had added like another 100 examples of US interfering in foreign governments.
The funny thing is Reagan is most Republican hero but going off of his record in office he wouldn’t even be allowed in the modern day Republican Party and probably would be considered a liberal democrat.
Nothing curious about hostages being released the same day Reagan took office?
Reagan-Bush Ties to Iran-Hostage Crisis
https://consortiumnews.com/2014/04/09/reagan-bush-ties-to-iran-hostage-crisis/
Here is a timeline version of the Reagan administration on Iran/ Contra and how he repeated trading arms for hostages, just like the deal made prior to the 1980 election.
Iran-Contra and Arms-for-Hostages Scandals
http://www.historycommons.org/timeline.jsp?timeline=irancontraaffair&irancontraaffair_key_figures=irancontraaffair_ronald_reagan
Reagan and his administration was the worst administration of the 20th Century and we are still suffering from it today. His administration is the one that started us on the government funded on the credit card.

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fish

12 March 2015

The funny thing is Reagan is most Republican hero but going off of his record in office he wouldn’t even be allowed in the modern day Republican Party and probably would be considered a liberal democrat.
Reagan and his administration was the worst administration of the 20th Century and we are still suffering from it today. His administration is the one that started us on the government funded on the credit card.
Liberal Democrat? I guess that explains the whole credit card thing……

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Todd Juvinall

12 March 2015

Jeeze I really feel sorry for Ben Emery. The man makes crap out of sugar.
Barry, obviously Pelline is missing a full deck of cards if he can’t even see how great and happy your life is. Meds are needed I think. ROFLMAO!

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Barry Pruett

12 March 2015

Thank you George!
Jeff: Come on by my office today, and I will give you a free tutorial on the rights of media/bloggers to public records. I will even help you draft a well crafted public records request, so we can conclusively determine who anonymous is. The big, old, nasty Union won’t do it. We can scoop The Union together! We can go together “like lamb and tuna fish!” I am just kidding. I am not a big fan of lamb.
Based upon your multiple and completely non-responsive response to multiple challenges to you to obtain the records yourself, we can all easily conclude that you have no desire to know who anonymous is…you just want to bang anonymous over Jim Hemig’s head. You wear your hatred of Nevada County and The Union on your sleeve and your deep seeded anger (most likely a result of your termination from The Union) is readily evident.
Have a good one my old buddy.

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George Rebane

12 March 2015

I summarized my two cents worth on Republican senators’ letter to Iran under Bob Crabb’s 10mar15 post on his website.
If I may. Actually “the annals of diplomacy” have seen more than plenty of impetuous surrogate diplomacy from Democrat members of Congress during Republican presidents’ tenures. This afternoon Steve Hayes of the Weekly Standard laid out a list of them longer than you arm that included Pelosi’s most recent hugging match with Syria’s Assad during Bush2’s administration that gave that murderer much sought after political cover and fortitude to stay the course that he is still on.
Nevertheless, I agree with Krauthammer that the Repubs’ letter would better have been composed and publicly directed at the President spelling out the imbroglio he would have with Congress should he accept the desperate agreement that Kerry appears to be cobbling together with Iran. Stand by for a nuclear armed klatch of Arab countries when the terms of the current agreement are announced. To think that the present letter will drive the Iranians from the negotiating table is beyond naïve – they have everything to gain and nothing to lose.
The middeast nuclear proliferation has already started. Yesterday the Saudi king signed a memorandum of agreement with the visiting South Korean president on her nation supplying Saudi Arabia with nuclear power technology that outputs ‘spent fuel’ which can be then weaponized. Bottom line, no one respects any agreement Obama will get with Iran any more than they trust Iran to live up to the terms of any agreement. Everyone sees an economically stronger Iran emerging from this go-around without the slightest impediments to their progress toward a missile mounted nuclear warhead. Well not everyone, America’s Left will remain as bamboozled as ever.

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Jeff Pelline

12 March 2015

Barry,
While you were commenting on this blog, I was with our son and his classmates, celebrating their academic successes. Get a life dude! BTW, I can’t blame you for confusing Todd for George in your 09:37 AM comment. They might as well be interchangeable. LOL.

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fish

12 March 2015

Posted by: Jeff Pelline | 12 March 2015 at 10:00 AM
…and ultimately the closing response from jeffy is always that of the bitchy queen!
And hey….how bout that internet….did you know it’s changing the way we communicate!

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Walt

12 March 2015

Yes,, LIBS bitched about the Iran letter. Seems Kerry had to eat crow..
“Secretary of State John Kerry was forced to admit to Congress that the president’s intent was to create an agreement that was not “legally binding” so that he would not have to submit it for ratification.”
http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/03/12/cotton-letter-forces-obama-to-admit-iran-deal-is-empty/

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George Rebane

12 March 2015

Walt 1115am – when the “not legally binding” dropped from Kerry’s lips yesterday, it blew away all the Dems accusatory points about the Senate letter spoiling things with the Iran deal. It seems that everyone understood that – including the Iranians who would never consider anything from the US as legally binding – except the hard Left.
I would really like to see the transcript of the negotiating session in which Kerry drops this little gem on the towelheads.
Kerry: You realize, of course, that our agreement will not be legally binding because that’s the only way we can slip it by our Congress.
Towelhead: Yes, we considered any outcome of these talks as not legally binding from the start.
Kerry: You did?! Then why the hell are you dicking around with us on this ‘agreement’?
Towelhead: So that you can have something to dangle in front of the lamestream and your gruberized voters to justify withdrawing all those sanctions you have imposed on us. Didn’t Obama tell you? You need something to cover your caving so that Obama will have a legacy piece of foreign policy that will also help elect a Democrat in 2016. I had no idea that we had to spoonfeed you through this process; get with the program dammit!

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