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05 February 2015

[As a heads up, the transcript of my KVMR commentary this week is entitled 'Those Left Behind' and will post around 6pm. Its focus is Obama's budget and the wage/wealth gap, so if you want to hold your fire on that until you can post comments under a relevant topic. Thanks. gjr]

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119 responses to “Sandbox – 5feb15”

Walt

07 February 2015

Hay Bill. I’m sure Shakedown Al will demand the “top” job. It’s only fair. No Blake dude has held that title.
In other news,, Berkeley is at it again. How dare they use a gender slur to promote it.
http://dailycaller.com/2015/02/07/meanwhile-at-berkeley-queering-agriculture/
Yet the NC Scooper had the scoop on some of that queer ag.
http://www.ncscooper.com/local-rooster-inspired-by-bruce-jenner-seeks-cow-reassignment/

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Bill Tozer

07 February 2015

Yo Walt, you old huffer and puffer you. I can’t believe my eyes!!!! Look what they have done to my song. Is nothing sacred? The muppets, Disney, and even pure American fiddle music had been defiled. Defiled I tell ya, defiled. Infidels among us, off with their heads.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ip5e9NUvX6A

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Bill Tozer

07 February 2015

Mr. Walt. I think the most Holy and Esteemed Reverend Al would not draw the much lusted after 18-34 age demographics. He might even turn them off, along with 83% of the American citizenry that still have two brain cells to rub together. After our Man of the Cloth, none other than the Reverend Al himself, called young black men and women who disagreed with his transparent motives “Pimps and Hos”, the man of Exualted Spiritual Understanding proved a wee bit to caustic, thin skinned, and uncouth for a major news outlet.
Yes, the most Illustrious and Wise Reverend with a hotline to God could use a bump in pay to settle his tax liens and maybe throw a few alms in some beggar’s cup. Nah, just kidding. With a bump in pay, there would be no paying of debts owed to the U.S. Treasury and no alms for the poor after The Good Parson takes his cut to keep him in the lavish lifestyle he is accustomed to.
Heck, CNN hired him and he had been to the White House more times than Nancy and Harry and most cabinet members combined. What does that tell ya? Tells me the Most Reverend Al is always first in line for a free dinner and CNN is scraping the scum of the top of the mosquito pond.
Katie or Al? Al or Katie? It’s a most difficult choice. Maybe No Drama Obama can pick tne right one for NBC with his impeccable decision making.

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Walt

07 February 2015

Now don’t go gett’n your nickers in a knot about that tune. I liked it when it came out.
Back then some of my friends who hear that, called me Johnny’s supplier. Yup,, I did grow some good stuff back then. So good they forgot their girlfriend’s phone number to come drive them home.
My money is on Rev. Al throwing a fit and the race card to snake the job. Ratings has noth’n to do with it. It’s the principal of the matter. He is OWED someth’n.

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Bill Tozer

08 February 2015

Fair enough Walt. That song is new to me. Shows you where I have been living without TV and FM radio out in the boondocks. Just been sowing pretty flowers and herding stray critters between placing my nose against the grindstone.
Hey, did you hear that Obama is cutting funding for the Vets to see doctor’s outside the VA morgues? Thought that was one of the major VA reforms. Silly me.
It’s not all black and white. It is grey. Not purple, just grey gray.
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/02/08/sunday-review/insured-but-not-covered.html?_r=1

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Bill Tozer

08 February 2015

Walt, after reading this long, long fair article, I am convinced that The Rev would not settle for the lowly job of Prime Time News Sprewer. That ain’t his style. It’s not about him.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/sf/national/2015/02/07/the-public-life-and-private-doubts-of-al-sharpton/

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fish

08 February 2015

This is going to throw a wrench into the “marketing strategy”…….
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/earth/environment/globalwarming/11395516/The-fiddling-with-temperature-data-is-the-biggest-science-scandal-ever.html

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Todd Juvinall

08 February 2015

I just heard that Bruce Jenner is transitioning from male to female. What the heck? Amazing

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fish

08 February 2015

Posted by: Todd Juvinall | 08 February 2015 at 08:45 AM
I see you missed yesterdays link……
Posted by: fish | 07 February 2015 at 02:47 PM
WOW! I guess they’re right….women aren’t very good drivers!
http://www.tmz.com/2015/02/07/bruce-jenner-fatal-car-accident-pacific-coast-highway-malibu-photo-dead/

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Bill Tozer

08 February 2015

Wonder what Gerry Fedor would say about the sexist statement there, Fish. I just got one question. How big are his man boobs????? Oh, not Jenner’s, I mean Fedor’s.
I remember when Bruce was working out at Santa Barbara City College after winning the decathlon. Boy, those were the days. John Carlos, Tommie Smith, and crew getting the boot from Mexico City all because of wearing Michael Jackson’s missing glove or something. Bruce looked pretty cute in those shorts back in the day with his brown hair tumbling gracefully over his ears and dancing off the nape of his neck, if I do say so myself. So, ain’t surprised one bit that he sided with Nichole and not OJ Simpson back in the days of the slow moving white Bronco. No, ain’t talking about John Elway either. Bruce always had that special thing about him that made me wonder about The World’s Greatest Athlete. Bet his/her legs don’t look as fine as they did back in the day.
Put this entire post in the Encyclopedia of Worthless Infornmation from whence it came and belongs.

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fish

08 February 2015

Posted by: Bill Tozer | 08 February 2015 at 09:55 AM
Wonder what Gerry Fedor would say about the sexist statement there, Fish. I just got one question. How big are his man boobs?????
….and really William he’s a 65 year old woman….. common decency (not to mention good taste) prohibits discussion.
Didn’t we determine that “Gerry” was one of jeffys lower tier sock puppets?

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Bill Tozer

08 February 2015

He was upper tier until somebody looked behind the shower curtain.

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Michael R. Kesti

08 February 2015

Oops, he’s done it again!
The FUE, who make it his business to point out others’ mistakes, posted an article on his blog this morning with this headline.
Newspaper’s play leading role in creating “low information voters”
Note the possessive, “Newspaper’s” rather than the contextually correct plural, “Newspapers.”
His glass house must be nothing but shards laying at his feet.

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Bill Tozer

08 February 2015

So is his shower door.

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Todd Juvinall

08 February 2015

Jenner with boobs. What’s next? This planet’s humans need a makeover. Oops, the Islamic murderers are trying that.

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Walt

08 February 2015

Where have all the “true believers” gone? Break out that antacid,, because more has come out on the funny business. Yup,, your pooch keeps getting screwed.
http://www.breitbart.com/london/2015/02/07/breathtaking-adjustments-to-arctic-temperature-record-is-there-any-global-warming-we-can-trust/

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Walt

08 February 2015

OK pot folks,, seems Hawaii needs your help. They don’t like the idea of growing your own.
http://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/story/28052757/medical-marijuana-dispensary-measure-goes-before-lawmakers-again
Hell.. no dispensaries, can’t grow,, what’s a stoner to do?

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fish

08 February 2015

Posted by: Michael R. Kesti | 08 February 2015 at 11:47 AM
His glass house must be nothing but shards laying at his feet.
Perhaps the original sand at this point……

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Michael R. Kesti

08 February 2015

Walt 08Feb15 at 01:54 PM
You become more liberal every day, Walt.

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Walt

08 February 2015

Uh,, NOoooo.. Just hoping some local LIBS will jump ship and head for other places.
Hawaii loves LIBS and LIB ideals. Or at least they used to. That’s changed in the last few months. They are no longer Nevada City of the Pacific. They have turned on their own (ha)native Son, bums are no longer allowed to litter the streets to drive off tourists,
and now MJ is in the crosshairs. Heck! even the elected LIBS are turning on their own!
I’m just trying to send re-enforcements ( the less here the better)
Head West Kesti, Lefty politics needs saving over there.

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Walt

08 February 2015

Another brain storm.. Maybe Nevada Co. weed growers can get a special export licence to fill Hawaii’s needs. ( since some think Nev. Co. is the only game in the state.. we are special)
Funny … Kesti just never gets it.. Especially when I poke at him with a pointy stick…

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Bill Tozer

08 February 2015

My, the Drudge Report has links calling Global Warming the biggest scandal ever, people in business would got to jail if they altered the books like those hired to collect data have done, etc,etc. Rather than paste the links, you can read it for yourself.
http://www.drudgereport.com

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Bill Tozer

08 February 2015

Yo Walt, you could see this coming 10 kilos away. Bad Republicans, bad. Have they no heart? Those mean spirited Republicans are at it again. Those filthy rich Repubs who hate the common man have no idea how hard it is being po folk.
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2015/feb/8/colorado-gop-tries-ban-welfare-weed-against-democr/

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Walt

08 February 2015

Damn Bill,, ya’ run too damned fast..And on a rainy Sunday. Thanks for flagging the trail, since ya’ did happen to find me on that dead end road of a thread. Thanks…
Yup, Colorado wants to stop the taxpayer from paying for dope, and Hawaii wants to make damned sure that weed is sold as medication ONLY,, what the hell is this world coming to?
A guy just can’t make an untaxed, underground buck anymore.
Now with the facts of AGW coming unpeeled like a cotton onion, I hope the people of Ca. start demanding the laws written based on the bogus ” studies” and “proof positive” doom and gloom,, get repealed. ( AB32 anyone?) How bout that carbon credit scam?
Yeseree Bob,, CARB sure went to town writing regs. because of the great fraud.
If the data isn’t saying what ya’ need it to,, mess with it, and publish it as you see fit. ” The Earth is cooling because of Global warming”… Only stoners can accept that line of shit.

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Walt

08 February 2015

Nope,, not all Democrats are bad, and in lemming mode.
http://dailycaller.com/2015/02/08/democrat-strategist-unloads-my-party-is-the-dictator-to-the-common-man/

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Barry Pruett

11 February 2015

Ok.. Somebody help me out. Obama call the murder of four Jews in a kosher deli in Paris by Muslim extremists a “random act by some folks” yet he demands an investigation into hate crimes when a cop defends his own life by shooting a black guy attacking him. Anti-semitism = random act. Self-defense by cop = racism? Dude needs to rethink his positions.

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Todd Juvinall

11 February 2015

He is not very bright Barry. He also is what Bob Beckle (a liberal) said he was. And I also believe this. When he was in a Muslim school in Indonesia as a kid, he became enamored with the religion (or brainwashed). He therefore cannot make the statements about the Muslim terrorists because of those feelings.

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Bill Tozer

11 February 2015

agreed gentlemen. (I am tired of upper case posting on this hand held gizmo). Barry Hussein Obama calls going into a Kosher Jewish deli and killing Jews a random shooting. It was a friggin targeted killing. What, did they go to a setting like a Renault auto plant or shoot up people on a street corner doing a random drive by??????
The poor press secretary Josh by Golly said it was random because specific individuals were not targeted…..??????….what, it ain’t an assaination attempt or targeted killing unless the victims’ names were inscribed on each bullet, that makes it random???? Heck, Muslim Ragheads are not anti-Semitic! Learn something new everyday. The American Sniper was all about random shootings in the liberal raghead lubbing Barrack Hussein Obama’s world view.

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Bill Tozer

11 February 2015

Mr. Pruett and Mr. Juvinall, allow me to let visual aides go the typing for me
https://www.facebook.com/PatriotPost/photos/pb.51560645913.-2207520000.1423669151./10152796272465914/?type=3&theater
https://www.facebook.com/PatriotPost/photos/pb.51560645913.-2207520000.1423669151./10152801397160914/?type=3&theater

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George Rebane

11 February 2015

BarryP 633am – Please see the 10feb15 update to the last Ruminations. Axelrod reports that Obama actually believes the crap that he spews as the basis for his worldview and the public policies resulting from that. There is no need for consistency or coherence in such outpourings. It is his religion, and he and his treat the rest of us as apostates.

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Russ Steele

12 February 2015

U.N. Official Reveals Real Reason Behind Warming Scare
Christiana Figueres, executive secretary of U.N.’s Framework Convention on Climate Change, admitted that the goal of environmental activists is not to save the world from ecological calamity but to destroy capitalism.
“This is the first time in the history of mankind that we are setting ourselves the task of intentionally, within a defined period of time, to change the economic development model that has been reigning for at least 150 years, since the Industrial Revolution,” she said.
The cat’s out of the bag. There is no approaching ecological calamity. The aim is to destroy capitalism.

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George Rebane

12 February 2015

re RussS 938pm – This is worth repeating since it blatantly exposes the Agenda21 objectives of the UN, and the lame endorsements given by western governments including the US. But our local worthies continue to deny that any of this is going on. (For the record RR posted this news item here – http://rebaneruminations.typepad.com/rebanes_ruminations/2015/02/ruminations-9feb15.html )

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Walt

12 February 2015

LIB “double standard” news strikes again. Back when “O” was running for Pres. the first time, Lefty news didn’t do their do diligence into his background. None.. Nadda, zip..
His records were off limits..
But look what they are up to now.
http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/02/12/exclusive-donald-trump-msm-investigation-into-scott-walkers-college-a-double-standard/
Yup,, Lefty news is going to give Scott Walker a GOOD rectal exam.

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Bill Tozer

13 February 2015

Mr. Pruitt. Obama’s reference to random acts of violence should come as no surprise. Remember one of the first things he did in office? No, not going to Cairo and inviting the Muslim Brotherhood to sit up front and center. No, talking about the domestic front.
I will give a clue. Something to do with ordering the head of NASA to come up with ways for Muslims to feel good about themselves. Boy, they really feel good about themselves across the Middle East now and are flexing their muscles. Money well spent by our Space Program who is saying lately they need more funding.
The Twin Towers collapsed as a direct result of random attacks.
The press did not vet Mien Kempt (my plan) either. If you want to hide something from the press or the uninformed public, put it into a book. It’s all there.
https://www.facebook.com/PatriotPost/photos/pb.51560645913.-2207520000.1423831317./10152805558840914/?type=3&theater

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Paul Emery

13 February 2015

I’m not sure where the proper place is to post this but this seems like the spot.
In a major victory for property rights advocates courts in Nebraska have ruled that foreign corporations cannot use eminent domain to take private property in Nebraska. The court determined that Trans Canada could not force property owners to sell their property to the foreign owners of the Keystone pipeline (Trans Canada) which by definition does not mean Trans America. Well done Tea Party property rights advocates. This is a major victory you should be proud of.
“A Nebraska judge has issued a temporary injunction barring TransCanada from using eminent domain to force landowners to sell rights allowing the proposed Keystone XL pipeline on their property.
Pipeline owner TransCanada said it will suspend all eminent domain proceedings, including those against landowners who are not among those who sued the company. The company said in a statement that it will seek an accelerated schedule for a trial……….A group of landowners affected by the eminent domain claims filed a lawsuit last month in Holt County District Court and vow to keep fighting to throw out the state law that allowed the governor to approve the pipeline route.
Jane Kleeb, director of the anti-pipeline group Bold Nebraska, said in a statement Thursday that the temporary injunction is a “major win for landowners.”
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/02/12/nebraska-transcanada-keystone-eminent-domain_n_6673552.html

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George Rebane

13 February 2015

PaulE 318pm – Indeed it is a major win for the landowners opposing Keystone. My puzzlement is that how does TransCanada have any standing in a US court for such proceedings against US citizens within the boundaries of their own country. The proper way to do this would be to have the US government or a US corporation associated with TransCanada (as a subcontractor?) initiate eminent domain proceedings and then argue the greater public benefit of forfeiting the rights of way on private land.
Administrivia – Unless you are continuing a clearly referenced comment thread on an older post, you should always post your comments on the newest sandbox or relevant topic. You didn’t reference any thread here, so this important comment is getting buried in the past.

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Bill Tozer

13 February 2015

A lot of things got buried in the past. 🙂

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Paul Emery

13 February 2015

I don’t understand the legal details but my assumption is that the Legislature customized a law that gave the Governor authority to act on behalf of Trans Canada. It’s not over yet since it’s on appeal but it could tie things up for some time.

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Russ Steele

13 February 2015

I invite readers to check out Sierra Foothills Commentary for a discussion of Democrats and liberals in small towns. We see the results played out on this blog day in and day out.
Link is HERE: http://sierrafoothillcommentary.com/2015/02/13/right-here-in-our-little-foothill-villages/

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Russ Steele

15 February 2015

Interesting article in Popular Mechanics: Why Superintelligent Machines Are Probably the Dominant Lifeforms in the Universe
If you think the rise of robots on Earth is scary, then here’s a thought for you: they might be the most prevalent lifeform in the universe.
University of Connecticut philosophy professor Susan Schneider certainly thinks so. In her new paper “Alien Minds,” she proposes that by the time civilizations are able to communicate by radio, they’re a few short steps away from developing artificial intelligence. One they reached that level of advancement, they may have opted to upgrade their biology to something that’s a biomechanical hybrid or something entirely synthetic. There could be a whole mess of Borg out there, in other words.
I can agree with that, as it will be necessary for earthlings to evolve as we continues to explore out planetary neighborhood. Exploration is built into our DNA, and we are now on the spearpoint of evolution, and hybridization is the next big step.

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George Rebane

15 February 2015

RussS 1247pm – Regular RR readers have known about this theory for years. Schneider is a late bloomer in these insights as her “new paper” demonstrates. But she still hasn’t come upon the radiation annuli that are approximately 200 light years thick that then ‘blink out’ as these advanced civilizations either destroy themselves or decide to cease transmissions detectable by pre-Singularity civilizations like ours. It is amusing to see all these light bulbs coming on about the future of Man and AI.
Here’s another one from RR – they are among us already. John Wheeler was the best SETI observatory we had, and his successors examining ‘Why Existence?’ may attract contact if they make progress. The SETI Society pointing radio telescopes all over the sky have been on a fool’s errand – discovery of one of those 200 ly annuli is a low probability event.

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Joe Koyote

16 February 2015

Here is a quote from the CEO of Shell Oil, Ben van Beurden: “”Yes, climate change is real. And yes, renewables are an indispensable part of the future energy mix…You cannot talk credibly about lowering emissions globally if, for example, you are slow to acknowledge climate change; if you undermine calls for an effective carbon price; and if you always descend into the ‘jobs versus environment’ argument in the public debate.” Several CEOs from other European energy companies agreed with van Beurden. The CEOs of Exxon-Mobile and Chevron continue to question the science. Don’t the Koch brothers own a bunch of Exxon-Mobile?

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Joe Koyote

16 February 2015

“I invite readers to check out Sierra Foothills Commentary for a discussion of Democrats and liberals in small towns.”
What else would you expect from a right wing publication founded by neocon Bill Kristol. The Weekly Standard is the right wing version of the Daily Kos.

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George Rebane

16 February 2015

JoeK 857am – Please reexamine the content and logic of the quote you cited. What does he say about the relationship of global warming to AGW, and what does he say about our current understanding of how to materially lower the predicted temp increases (especially since atmospheric CO2 concentrations are totally uncorrelated with measured temps)??
Who is denying that climate is not changing? Who knows what is “an effective carbon price”? Who is calling for closer govt/corp alliances?

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Joe Koyote

16 February 2015

George-another deft deflection by drowning the point in minutia. The point is that several CEOs of some of the largest energy companies on the planet are acknowledging the role of carbon emissions in climate change.. unlike their American counterparts. That’s it.. plain and simple. From a purely logical perspective, I would think an oil company CEO would know more and have a greater vested interest in knowing the inconvenient truth of climate change than a bunch of small time small town bloggers. So I am going with Ben on this one rather than the American version.
Who is calling for closer govt/corp alliances?– Ben, the CEO of Shell oil is.
Another note: The Weekly Standard is a Rupert Murdoch publication.. Mr. Credibility himself (NBC not withstanding).

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Gregory

16 February 2015

An effective carbon price is one that is high enough that they can make a really huge amount of money by gaming the market. Making money with oil without actually having to find it or pump it up. Wake up, JoKe, if the .1% of the .1% believed what you do, they’d be flying 1st Class on Virgin rather than Patrician Class on their own Gulfstreams.
BTW a fun new movie… “Kingsman”. In many ways stupid from start to finish, the same sort of stupid played straight as in the old Bond films to which it pays homage, only lots more of it. The reason I mention it here is the bad guy (played by Samuel L. Jackson) is a zillionair tech guy and Global Warming nutcase who figures out a way to reduce the world’s population by getting people to kill each other after giving them free mobile phone and internet.
NOT! a comedy for kids. Lots of computer generated gore and what little sex is present isn’t exactly what Ian Fleming had in mind…
JoKe might not like how the global warming alarmists fare.

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Russ

16 February 2015

JoeK@09:04 and 09:36AM
Who are you charge George with “a deft deflection”, you are the pro at that. For example rather address the issue presented in the Weekly Standard article, you attack the editor and the publication owner, that is a classic deflection. Discuss the messenger, rather than the message.
Following your deflection logic, we can all discout all the articles published in lefty magazines as not credible. I would rather address the issues they present, rather then dismiss the arguments just because they were published in a lefty publication. Have you ever notices that the global warmers never want to debate the science? Have you ever wondered why the global warmers refused to appear in a debate with skeptical scientist?
As for Shell. A drilling company must rely on government for permits, so they often pay homage to government policies to get the required permits. Here is an example from Bloomberg. Note the highlighted text below.
Shell’s Jekyll and Hyde Approach to Climate Change
In April, Royal Dutch Shell (RDS.A) headlined a group of 70 companies that called on world governments to cap greenhouse gas emissions at a level that will contain global warming. The “Trillion Tonne Communique,” named for the amount of heat-trapping gases that scientists believe can be added to the atmosphere while keeping warming within 2 degrees Celsius of pre-industrial levels, was described as a “global call to arms from businesses who take the science of climate change seriously and are demanding a proactive policy response.”
For all its vaunted language, Shell continues to fund and support several groups pursuing the opposite aim: to stymie climate policies sprouting up around the globe that the Trillion Tonne Communique applauds.
Shell is gaming the system. That is what big companies do when they have to deal with corrupt governments.

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Gregory

16 February 2015

And then there’s the weather…
http://icecap.us/index.php/go/new-and-cool/historic_snows_has_climate_pause_deniers_spinning/

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Todd Juvinall

16 February 2015

What fascinates me about liberals like JoeK is this. They rail against the CEO’s of the oil companies, they hate corporations, they tell us all those people are the 1% and you can’t believe a thing they say and yet JoeK uses some quotes he apparently agrees with them about! My goodness, a liberal would agree with the Devil if for a moment the had the same opinion. What a hoot!

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Gregory

16 February 2015

Another “effective carbon price” point is one that makes energy derived from oil even more expensive than photovoltaic. You make this “affordable” by ensuring the plebes live in the dark with more blankets, thus keeping their energy bills not much more than they are now.
For now, my son is living, studying and working in the Boston area and he’s really missing the Sierra Nevada foothills’ weather at the moment.

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